What is the point of measuring something you want when you have no real belief in acquiring the reality of the very thing you are measuring?
I posed this question on my penis enlargement forums. What is the point of measuring something you want when you have no real belief in acquiring the reality of the very thing you are measuring? Here are some of the answers I got and I will give my response at the closing.
Question: What is the point of measuring something you want when you have no real belief in acquiring the reality of the very thing you are measuring?
1. Answer: BlackMjolnir025
Perhaps it's something that is wanted bad enough to inspire a sort of desperate and blind hope?
If you have no hope AND no belief...chances are you won't measure at all.
If you don't believe PE (I assume that's what you're referring to) will work, I'm willing to bet that there's plenty of people who will do it, doubt it (and themselves) and will still measure. A small part of them clinging to the hope that the ruler might measure just a little bit higher than last time.
The point of measuring? You might just be lucky enough to get some results without being "in it" mentally and seeing that 1/16 of an inch gain that just might be the little push needed to set you in the right direction.
That blind hope is the main fuel behind PE is it not? You don't have to believe in something for it to work (try not believing in gravity ) I'm sure there's plenty of people here with a lot of doubts but with those doubts is also Hope, which seems to have led them here to improve upon themselves.
That's just my take on it.
What's everybody else's ideas on the subject?
I measure before and after every PE session. It's not the neurotic kind of measuring I used to do, but I'm keeping a very close watch on my body's biorhythms. Understanding which exercises will affect fluid buildup vs. tunica expansion, 'cold' girth vs post-clamp girth, and flaccid stretch length vs true erect length are all things I look at to make sure I'm not lying to myself. By doing this I have discovered a lot about my penis. It is amazing how much it's size fluctuates depending on what I do to it.
3. Answer: anth
I suppose whether you believe or not the measurement itself would be the proof if it worked or not.
Hope would be the driving factor in doing the exercises anyhow. If you bothered to do the exercises, even if you're an Eeyore, you still have some hope that it could possibly be true.
Faith in the program may cause you greater success because you would be more enthusiastic in your workouts, but faith is not required for gains because it's physical thing not a metaphysical thing.
4. Answer: Rude_God
If you don't really believe but try it and measure anyway, a little gain might cause a change in your belief and then spur you on.
5 Answer: tef1
If you don't believe you won't put forth the effort necessary to make gains.
6. Answer: Threak-X
I know for myself I knew what I wanted from P.E. visually and mentality without knowing the measure of time, money or knowledge involved in accomplishing my goal. By eliminating my own doubt/non-belief I could actually do it I somehow attracted/found Matters of Size (DLD) and achieved most of my P.E. goal thus far.
7. Answer: Chaco
The point for me is to play the game. In this case it's the PE game. I don't know what will come of PE in the end for me. I know I'll find out though. That's what the game is about. I'm not a big fan of belief really. For me it's about making known the unknown. I'm constantly trying to let go of beliefs. IMO beliefs are limiting.
8. Answer: Big Man PE
All i know is, im keeping a good mental about this whole PE thing. When i first tried it out i had serious doubts always thought i was doing something wrong so i never even stuck with it and got lazy and never made any gains. Now Im treating my penis like my body, when i workout i visualize the re building of my body especially like weight training and when I PE now, i visualize me stretching my penis to be rebuilt and when i measure and i see where im at right now.. i see myself the next time me measuring my dick that it will be taller and higher up on that stick since the last time. My only problem is that i dont get enough sleep. So im working on that though. But good question DLD I like how you word things.
In penis enlargement to many important associations are rarely made. When we get into penis enlargement we have hopes and dreams of creating an ideal penis size. The picture many hold in their heads is foggy, unclear, without any real definition. They have seen penis's that fit the profile of their desire but they still find it difficult to see a picture of their own ideal penis. '
Association, in general life, if seen everywhere. Successful people have a very good sense of association and therefore when they see something they want and get it they use that success as an association mechanism for every other accomplishment in their lives. If they land a dream job or a new car they make the same success association with their goals in progress. In penis enlargement the same rules apply. Whether they are aware of it or not I would wager that most men who succeed in penis enlargement have used some association from other accomplishments in their life.
In penis enlargement, if a man does the exercise properly, he will make at least a minimum gain. The best way to see this gain is to measure your penis in flaccid state stretching it to the tip of the ruler. This measurement will show you your immediate gains and the reason seeing these gains are so you can make an association with future gains. Association within a goal is essentially taking a ride on the wave of success. Even if you make very small, incremental gains in penis enlargement it is important to use each success as the fuel that drive the wave function.
Another measurement you will want to create is a picture of the penis you want. This picture can be created through film, photograph, painting, drawing or any other way of seeing your ideal penis in a real physical way. The picture should be measurable and as accurate as possible.
The last measurement you should make is the one when you have finished creating the penis you pictured in the beginning. I understand there may be other measurements during the process of getting from now to the penis you want but these measurements should be classified differently than the 3 measurements I mentioned above. The measurements we are discussing here are ones of deliberate creation.
My favorite way of creating a picture of my desire is through art. In this case I would create a model, but a model of progressive change. Start with a piece of workable clay. Create the penis you have now and be as accurate as you can. Detail it right down to the veins, head, scars, etc. Make it's size as close to the size you are now as possible. When you have a accurate representation keep it in a closed cool box (like a shoe box, unless your me then you could use a larger box:)) You will want the clay to stay workable as you will make this sculpture part of your penis enlargement routine. Each day you can oopen the box after your routine and add a bit more clay. This ever changing, ever growing model will resemble the clearest picture of your goal that you could have. As you grow, it will grow or is it the other way around? WHo knows, I am dyslexic and a poor speller:) The point is you will have a perpetual, 3 dimensional picture of your goal.
Now that you have these first 2 measurements done you can start to understand the reasons for my initial question: What is the point of measuring something you want when you have no real belief in acquiring the reality of the very thing you are measuring? BELIEF. The most important part to believing you can have something is to be able to pretend you already do. Now, this may sound silly but read on. Being to actually hold the item of your desire makes it VERY REAL.
When people ask for something they desire they immediately create blocks that prevent them from seeing their goal clearly. They create measurements like time, money, self-view, what others might think, etc. but each one of these blocks are essentially measurements. Numbers that stand in the way of a clear picture of your dream. Here is a chart I use on the Alpha Blade Site. I hope it helps get my views across.