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    Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Hello fellow MOS members. I have decided, after many private messages about my routines, to share everything I did and everything I know about how I was able to add 4.35" in length and almost 2.2" in erect girth in about 2.2 years(10.5 months of chem pe). I will start by giving you a background on myself, why I started penis enlargement, and my routines along with the technical aspects of each element I used to grow.

    I know this will disappoint many members, but I have decided against posting any pictures. I had kept my routines secret in my bathroom for the past year from my wife of almost 6 months. I had taken a couple picture of my penis I was going to post back in November, saved them on my computer, and she had discovered them. It almost caused a divorce. Although she is proud of me that I was able to change something about myself that affected my confidence in a negative way, she is still very bothered by what I have done to enlarge my penis. I gave her my word that this would probably be my last contribution to the forums. Those members that are married or in long relationships know that it's important to keep things battle-free at home....lol

    So a background on myself and reasons for Penis Enlargement:

    I have been involved in bodybuilding since my teenage years. I have always had good genetics for building muscle and staying fairly lean. I have also done my share of steroid cycles. I did some competing at a local level as well.
    After I turned 21, being in good shape was generally my ticket to taking home women from the bars or clubs. It was my only advantage so I used it as much as possible. When I would sleep with women, I just constantly got this impression that they were expecting more from me in the size department. I went through a few relationships, and my size would always get thrown in my face during heated arguments. I had been described as "average-ish" or "the small side of average".
    Being so focused on how I looked outside and realizing that I was very flawed as a male, was a huge blow to my self confidence. I became a very moody person. I starting thinking of everything in a negative way. I thought about my size day and night. I worried about it at work. I started to not talk to women anymore in any social situation because I didn't want to feeling that disappointing feeling again. It really was ruining me as a person.
    As many people have done in my situation, I started with the desperate attempts to increase my size. I ordered every pill and every gimmick product I could find in magazines and online. I have literally probably tried every single product you can think of when I first started Penis Enlargement. Nothing worked obviously.
    I kept seeing natural penis enlargement stuff all over when I searched online. I joined another forum back in early 2010 and the guys on there were absolute dickheads about any little question I asked, so I quit logging in their site. That same year I lurked on MOS, and everyone was nice and polite, so I decided this was the place for me.
    I watched every single video DLD had up, and really studied the newbie routine and researched everything I could find about the exercises. I decided to start the newbie routine.


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    First off, let me preface this by saying that I have no formal medical training, and I am not a doctor or medical professional. Anything I mention or have tried was by my personal choice only. Any of the injectable drugs I mention I would not recommend using until you have been prescribed them by a medical professional and shown how to use them correctly.

    After going through what I did to achieve my gains, I will tell the newbies one thing: chem pe is not a shortcut to be used from the beginning. Start with the newbie routine. If you try chemical penis enlargement without spending months or years conditioning your penis, you will end up in immense pain and possibly in the hospital. DON'T DO IT.


    DIET & EXERCISE:

    If you are trying to enlarge your penis, you want your body to be the best environment for expanding and rebuilding tissues as possible. If you are feeding yourself garbage like fast food and soda on a daily basis, don't expect to get great gains and don't expect them to come fast. You need a good, clean, organic diet so your hormones are at optimal levels. Eat lean meats such as turkey and chicken, and avoid meats with a high fat content. high cholesterol levels are not going to help your gains or heart health at all. Lots of veggies and fruits are the ticket.
    Drink plenty of water, and avoid sugary drinks like sodas and energy drinks. High levels of caffeine will cause your blood vessels to constrict, which is not what you want for penis tissue expansion.
    Now this part is important: Your penile tissues are primarily made up of the amino acids lysine, proline, glycine, alanine and valine. If you flood your system with these aminos, your body will be able to rebuild your penile tissues bigger and replicate more in a quicker amount of time. find yourself a good bioavailable amino acid supplement from a reputable company that contains these aminos. there are plenty out there.

    N.O. supplements as well as creatine and a good multivitamin will help with your gains as well.

    There are foods and supplements out there that will put your hormone levels at an optimal level to help with your gains. A healthy body will make a health penis. Check out www.ergo-log.com for lots of good studies and information on this subject.

    Exercise on a daily basis. I usually do a 30 minute jog and 5x5 lifting routine of compound lifts everyday. It only eats up about an hour a day and is a good investment in feeling good and looking good. This will also help improve gains.


    CHEM Penis Enlargement:

    the whole point of chemical penis enlargement is to weaken the collagen cross-linkage that makes up the outer portions of your penis body. Once these are softened/weakened, the penis tissues become more pliable and are easier to mold, expand and grow. Is it absolutely necessary for penis enlargement? of course not. But, if you have plateaued in size or your girth exercises isn't responding, then this may be the answer. This is also the way to get the girth gains your genetic limits won't allow.

    Dmso & Paba are compounds that help weaken your collagen cross linkage so to make your penis enlargement exercises or devices more effective in a shorter duration of time. They are most effective when allowed to soak into your tissues prior to injection your tri-mix solution. For those that will not be using injectables, applying them before doing your routines or using your devices is the optimal time as well. These compounds, in my opinion, will almost double the speed of your gains if used correctly in the correct dosages. DMSO can be found on amazon.com and many other places and paba powder can be found at pure-bulk.com. Check kingsnakes thread on how to mix the stuff.

    Tri-mix is an injectable solution used to induce erections in patients who are having difficulty doing so, due to health or damage to the penis. It is made up of the vasodiolators alprostadil, papaverine and phentolamine. depending on dosages, erections up to 6 hours are possible. Safest range is up to around 3.5 hours. anything under 2.5 hours is probably not effective for penis enlargement. Tri-mix contributes to penis enlargement by keeping the penis in an expanded state and weakening the collagen cross-linkage. As I stated before, talk to your doctor about prescribing the stuff to you. I basically told them I could no longer get erections, and he had me try ED pills, told him those didn't work either, and bam I got the script. the stuff isn't cheap. I tried to be a cheapskate and buy stuff online but it was either underdosed or fake. It's better to be safe and pay the legit way.

    I have decided to not elaborate on DHT gel for Penis Enlargement. I don't think the side effects are worth the gains. I think trying to increase hormone levels naturally is healthier and the way to go.

    I also used some IGF peptides that temporarily deformed my penis by making it grow where I injected. not cool. many hours of jelqing and dmso/paba cured that luckily. I don't recommend it at all.

    Exercises:

    I started out doing DLD's newbie routine. I have done it 3 times for 4 month cycles. During chemical enlargement in the beginning, I did a modified version where I jelqed for 30 minutes straight instead of the 200-600 standard jelqs. I got out of the habit of counting jelqs. I bought a few seasons of family guy and I would jelq for about 1.5 episodes at a time. Just space out and watch the show while jelqing. 3 second jelqs. that's all I ever did. I also did alot of alternating of jelqing and pumping in my later routines that seemed to speed up gains.

    I did ALOT of edging and kegels as well, especially during pumping breaks. They both helped my stamina, and kept the devices and tri-mix from having adverse effects on my erection quality.

    I did horse squeezes for a while. I think they work great for girth expansion. I was happy with my normal routine though, so I stuck to that.

    Devices:

    I have used just about everything under the sun in terms of penis enlargement. I have made hanging devices, made pump setups, used extenders, hanging devices, all kinds of pumps, vac-hangers, ect, ect.
    Now keep in mind that there are some devices that work well for me, and won't work well for others, and vice versa. I am a logger, so I needed something I could wear at work that wouldn't slip off. I tried extenders, but they didn't work. Extenders would probably work great for a guy with an office job. to each their own.

    I used 3 devices and one homemade device. The grip system all day hanger, a regular brass LA pump for water pumping, a CTC xl-2000 electric penis pump, and an all day hanger I made out of buck skin, shoe laces and fishing weights when I outgrew my first grip system kit.

    I'm sure members will say that I should water pump with a Bathmate or a penomet. I own both of those as well. I just prefer to use the regular brass pump. Like I said, some people will like to use things that I don't, and vice versa. All three will work fine. The LA pump cylinders are just more comfortable for me.

    routines:

    Keep in mind if you are married or in a relationship, it is going to be very hard to keep a routine like this a secret if you are trying to. It eats up about 3-5 hours a day, not counting the all day hanging. This takes an extreme amount of dedication and endurance to do this day in day out. If you are already hesitant after reading the advanced routine, you may just want to stick to the regular routine I have provided. Don't criticize either routine if you tried it for a couple months then quit please.

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    beginner routine:


    requires: all day hanger of choice, heavy weight hanger of choice & weights, dmso & paba mix, electric/water/hand penis pump

    wear all day hanger of choice all day while at work. Wear as many hours as you can every single day. around 1-1.5 pounds of tension is adequate.

    once you have free time and are ready to do your routine:

    apply dmso & paba mix (kingsnake has a good thread on this) let soak into skin 15-20 minutes and wash off with a good soap.

    use a form of heat to soften penile tissues ( bath,shower, heating pad, rice sock, ect) for 10 minutes

    newbie stretching routine

    edging

    attach your heavy weight hanger. Start with a weight and duration that is appropriate for your hanging experience. I started out with 8 pounds for 20 minutes and ending my program with 15 pounds for 60 minutes (20 minute sets)

    now you will jelq, pump and do edging in an alternating fashion. Jelq 5 minutes, pump 5 minutes, edging, then repeat. Repeat pattern until you have reached 30 minutes. I alternated wet pumping and the electric pump every other day. I felt as though they gave me different types of expansion. wet pumping seemed to give me girth expansion, and electric pumps constant tugging motion seemed to help with length more. I also did kegels while I was pumping.

    jelq 5 min
    pump 5 min
    edging
    jelq 5 min
    pump 5 min
    edging
    jelq 5 min
    pump 5 min
    edging

    more experienced jelqers and pumpers could start with a 10 minute alternating routine for 1 hour.

    Add whatever exercises you like to incorporate into the routine at this time.

    cool down

    reapply the all day hanger

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    advanced routine:


    requires: tri-mix, all day hanger of choice, heavy weight hanger of choice & weights, dmso & paba mix, electric/water/hand penis pump


    wear all day hanger of choice all day while at work. Wear as many hours as you can every single day. around 1-1.5 pounds of tension is adequate.

    apply dmso & paba mix (kingsnake has a good thread on this) let soak into skin 15-20 minutes and wash off with a good soap.

    use a form of heat to soften penile tissues ( bath,shower, heating pad, rice sock, ect) for 10 minutes

    inject your tri-mix at a dosage that will induce an erection for 3-3.5 hours. (I started at 16 mcg and ended my chem pe program at 95 mcg I think)

    once erection has subsided, penis will be sore(get used to this part, chem pe is painful). Massage for 5 minutes and proceed to edging

    newbie stretching routine

    edging

    attach your heavy weight hanger. Start with a weight and duration that is appropriate for your hanging experience. I started out with 8 pounds for 20 minutes and ending my program with 15 pounds for 60 minutes (20 minute sets)

    edging

    now you will jelq, pump and do edging in an alternating fashion. Jelq 10 minutes, pump 10 minutes, edging, then repeat. Repeat pattern until you have reached 60 minutes. I alternated wet pumping and the electric pump every other day. I felt as though they gave me different types of expansion. wet pumping seemed to give me girth expansion, and electric pumps constant tugging motion seemed to help with length more. I also did kegels while I was pumping.

    jelq 10 min
    pump 10 min
    edging
    jelq 10 min
    pump 10 min
    edging
    jelq 10 min
    pump 10 min
    edging

    if I did this routine any longer that this, I would get the dreaded donut on my foreskin and it would take half a day to go away(even when wet pumping).

    Add whatever exercises you like to incorporate into the routine at this time.

    edging

    cool down

    reapply the all day hanger

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    my starting stats mid 2010:

    4.75" EL 4.4" EG

    august 2012

    8" EL 6" EG

    present

    9.1" EL 6.6" EG

    I have added 4.35" in erect length and 2.2" in erect girth.

    I stopped doing everything beginning of febuary and I have maintained my gains so far. My wife says if I get any bigger she is going to leave me, so I have decided to stop. She enjoys the size but it is somewhat painful for her at first if we haven't done it in a while. Once you get over 6" girth get used to feeling teeth when you get head. She is a good woman and a hell of a cook so i'd like to keep her around so i'm willing to compromise .

    I can say that I don't really even think about my penis anymore, which is nice. The confidence you get from being big is hard to really put into words. I really noticed the difference with women when I was still dating before I got married and I was around 8"x6". Women are alot more willing to pleasure you and actually call you back to do it again when you are bigger. walking into a place and having women stare at you because they can see the confidence on your face is pretty cool. They really can tell before they even see your cock.

    My gains are proof that this routine will work if you apply yourself. I'm sure there will be people that don't get as good of results, and a few that will get better results. I believe the all day hanging is mostly responsible for my length gains. on average I wore my all day hangers 12-13 hours a day, and I only took off one weekend a month from Penis Enlargement.

    Well that is about all I can pour into this thread that is useful. I hope you guys enjoy!
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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Wow, thank you for such a great contribution!!

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Quote Originally Posted by blancodb View Post
    Wow, thank you for such a great contribution!!
    I agree. I also have to say I absolutely adore the routine with all the familiar elements of SRT....This males me very happy! This was a great post, thanks for the time and effort and your no bs way of delivery. Glad to have you here in the Brotherhood.

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    congrats!

    and whats responsible for your huge girth gains?
    did they come in spurts or slowly over time?
    NBPEL: 6.65 Inches
    EG: 5,3 Inches
    <-doing PE reguarly since august 2011

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    bpfsl 8,27 bpel 7,68 beg 5,71 meg 5,35 bheg 4,53 nbpel 7,01
    Goal: BPEL 8.3 inches; BEG: 6.3

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Hey timber1981. Great post bro. Excellent information. You have made absolutely awesome gains in just 2 years time. I gotta tell ya. I think DMSO/PABA goes a long way. I urge all that's reading this to please add DMSO/PABA to your routine. For those of you that would jump off a bridge before ever injecting your dicks for 3 to 4 hour erections, that's fine.

    When I needle my dick it isn't the most pleasant experience, I'll admit. But please at least add DMSO/PABA to your programs fellas. As time goes on with Penis Enlargement, the tunica by nature will adapt and toughen and gains will stop, especially after those initial newbie gains. DMSO/PABA will help to weaken the tunica and keep it soft for manual manipulation to have a better effect.

    Hey timber1981. Please stay with us brother. Your knowledge and experience is definitely needed and welcomed bro. Once again, good post.
    Last edited by kingsnake; 04-01-13 at 07:28 PM.
    Starting size: nbpel 8 inches
    bpel 8.5 inches
    midshaft girth 5.2 inches
    Base girth 5.5 inches

    Current size: nbpel 9.5 inches
    bpel 9.8 inches
    midshaft girth Between 6.25
    Base girth 6.5 inches

    Goal: To leave all single women SNAKEMATIZED (LOL)
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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Thanks guys. I appreciate the compliments. I'll check in from time to time to see how everyone is progressing and answer any questions i can.


    @dickers i would say my girth gains started out strong, slowed mid program, then picked up again when i started doing the jelq/pumping/edging routine.

    In terms of what contributed to my girth gains, i would say jelqing, tri-mix/dmso/paba, pumping, heavy hanging, in that order from most effect to least effect.

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Thanks for the stop in, it always good to hear from the successful ones!

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Congrats on the gains I have a couple of questions
    Seperatly how much did you gain from the newbie routine then the advanced injecting routine?
    You only hung for 3 sets was it straight down?
    The all day hanger from grip system what is it exactly called on there website? I don't know which one you speak of
    How much PABA to DMSO did you apply everyday? Did you ever measure how much you were using?
    Did you sleep with anything on your penis to prevent turtleing?
    When pumping did you pump as high as possible? Or just at a gentle pressure?
    Any discolouration?
    What amino supplement did you take?
    Thanks
    Last edited by 8incyclops; 04-04-13 at 10:46 PM.

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Also forgot to ask we're to you think most of your length come from? Jelqing or healing in a extended state with the ads?
    I've asked a lot of questions thanks for all the info.

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Thanks Timber, great info and congrats on your gains.

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Any amino acid supps that you can recommend? Is there an all in one or you took them separately?

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Anyone else doing chem Penis Enlargement? I'm keen to try this just need a bit more info

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    I think he's gone:( happens a lot when people say they make good gains,remember Magnum Force??

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Quote Originally Posted by 8incyclops View Post
    I think he's gone:( happens a lot when people say they make good gains,remember Magnum Force??
    Yup, many guys make their gains and leave and that is a shame. After reaping such beautiful gains from the Brotherhood it should always be in the reciprocation to share the awareness and inspire, teach and guide new guys. Hopefully these men will come back...some do.

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    1. Get The Matters of Size Maximum Gains Package
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    3. Get The SizeGenetics Penis Extender Complete Package
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    Take advantage of ALL DAY PENIS STRETCHING

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    Hydro Penis Pumps have become a Massive Tool in Penis Size Gaining and Healing!

    5. Get the Phallosan The All Day and All Night Stretcher Now $100 in extras!

    6. Follow the SRT Routine: Maximizing Gains and Healing Fastest!
    Watch your Penis gain inches in girth and length in the FASTEST time Possible!
    Over 15 Years of Research, utilizing the most effective Penis Enlargement techniques!
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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Quote Originally Posted by 8incyclops View Post
    Congrats on the gains I have a couple of questions
    Seperatly how much did you gain from the newbie routine then the advanced injecting routine?
    You only hung for 3 sets was it straight down?
    The all day hanger from grip system what is it exactly called on there website? I don't know which one you speak of
    How much PABA to DMSO did you apply everyday? Did you ever measure how much you were using?
    Did you sleep with anything on your penis to prevent turtleing?
    When pumping did you pump as high as possible? Or just at a gentle pressure?
    Any discolouration?
    What amino supplement did you take?
    Thanks
    wow that's a list of questions.

    ok:

    1. I would alternate my hanging every session three directions. straight down, across the left leg, across the right leg.
    2. you will just have to search for thegripsystem.com
    3.paba and dmso were mixed like is described in kingsnakes dmso and paba thread. nothing is measured
    4. I would sleep with the grip system all day hanger on only when I wasn't able to hang as much as I was supposed to during the day. I tried it at night, and it was comfortable enough to wear, but once I got into a relationship, wearing it at night was no longer an option. Wearing during sleep would be optimal in my opinion.
    5. I didn't have a gauge on the pump I was using with water. I just pumped as much pressure as I could without reaching discomfort.
    6. no discoloration. my penis is darker now, but not abnormal in any way.
    7. I normally used twinlabs amino fuel. that stuff has been around forever. it is a chalky weird orange tasting liquid, but it works. Main goal is using a good bioavailable amino supplement. Gaspari, x-cap, ON nutrition all make amino products that I have used that seemed good quality as well.

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Quote Originally Posted by 8incyclops View Post
    Also forgot to ask we're to you think most of your length come from? Jelqing or healing in a extended state with the ads?
    I've asked a lot of questions thanks for all the info.
    all day hanging in an extended state combined with the heavy hanging for sure. heavy hanging pushes the cells into growing and multiplying, and the all day hanging makes sure it rebuilds longer.

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramrod360 View Post
    Any amino acid supps that you can recommend? Is there an all in one or you took them separately?
    I used all in one amino supplements. I just made sure the ones I mentioned were in the ingredient list on the product, that it was a quality product from a reputable company, and that the aminos i listed were close to or over a gram per serving.

    I mostly used twin lab amino fuel, and I used triple the recommended dose.

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Quote Originally Posted by doublelongdaddy View Post
    Yup, many guys make their gains and leave and that is a shame. After reaping such beautiful gains from the Brotherhood it should always be in the reciprocation to share the awareness and inspire, teach and guide new guys. Hopefully these men will come back...some do.
    No worries DLD, i'll check in from time to time when I get a chance. I'll answer whatever questions I can.

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    Hey Timber1981. How many times a week were you doing your advance routine?
    Starting size: nbpel 8 inches
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    midshaft girth 5.2 inches
    Base girth 5.5 inches

    Current size: nbpel 9.5 inches
    bpel 9.8 inches
    midshaft girth Between 6.25
    Base girth 6.5 inches

    Goal: To leave all single women SNAKEMATIZED (LOL)

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    Re: Timbers chempe, newbie, hanging, pumping, dmso/paba routines

    these LA pump cylinders look great...might have to pick one up myself
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