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Hey everyone. I was just curious if there were any engineers around that could think up a way to attach a ratcheting mechanism to the ROP as a replacement for the latex. In essence, it would be a combination of a cable clamp and the ROP so that you would get the effects of all-day-clamping and the battery effect of the ROP.
I figure that a ratchet would be more effective than latex, or other solutions like velcro, since you could have the same exact tightness every time, and it wouldn't reduce in pressure over time like a piece of latex losing its elasticity.
Any ideas?
kong1971
07-11-04, 10:03 AM
That's I brilliant idea, wants9!!! I want to make a rop, but can't find the metal tubing. Where do you get that stuff?
That's I brilliant idea, wants9!!! I want to make a rop, but can't find the metal tubing. Where do you get that stuff?
Thanks. I've been thinking about it for a few days, but just can't figure out a way to make it happen. As for the tubing, all the info you need is here (http://tomsnewsite.thundersplace.com/sperm.htm).
oopapercutoo
07-11-04, 01:42 PM
Hmm...I've just had an idea...I don't know if I'll be able to pull it off or not, but if it works out like I think it should I'll enlighten the rest of you to it...keep your fingers crossed
...now if I could just find my dad's dremel....
oopapercutoo
07-11-04, 02:29 PM
I have a question for any of you people out there with voltage readers...will the length of the zinc and copper affect the voltage readings? Say if I were to use only a 1" piece of zinc and copper, would I have the same volts as if I'd used a 2.5" piece?
Hmm...I've just had an idea...I don't know if I'll be able to pull it off or not, but if it works out like I think it should I'll enlighten the rest of you to it...keep your fingers crossed
...now if I could just find my dad's dremel....
Keep us posted, papercut. Even if it doesn't work out, it'll keep others from wasting their time with the same idea.
lepiricus
07-11-04, 03:42 PM
It does not matter what size piece you use for the rods. The voltage is solely based on electric potential between the two metals. The more metal you have, the longer the voltage will last and more contact surface with skin. So a 1" pieces have the same electric potential as 2" pieces or even 1' pieces.
levista
07-19-04, 12:00 PM
Bumping this as i would love an update :)
crazyed27
07-27-04, 02:29 PM
How about putting on some pipe insulation, then slipping in, on the inside of the pipe insulation the copper and the zinc, then putting a hose clamp on top of the pipe insulation to clamp. That way the hose clamp metal won't touch the ROP metal? Do you think that would work Wants9?
oopapercutoo
07-27-04, 02:43 PM
Sorry for not updating...the experiment didn't work out in the slightest. All in all it was a waste of my time and a few inches of my zinc and copper...
How about putting on some pipe insulation, then slipping in, on the inside of the pipe insulation the copper and the zinc, then putting a hose clamp on top of the pipe insulation to clamp. That way the hose clamp metal won't touch the ROP metal? Do you think that would work Wants9?
The way I'm seeing it in my head, the copper and zinc pieces would have to be very small, so they don't interfer so much with the shape of the hose clamp and cause discomfort.
What I'm thinking of is a standard cable clamp (the standard plastic ones that are mostly referred to) with zinc and copper integrated into it.
Sorry for not updating...the experiment didn't work out in the slightest. All in all it was a waste of my time and a few inches of my zinc and copper...
No sweat. Thanks for making the attempt, anyway.
9cyclops9
07-28-04, 02:01 AM
If I get the time this week I'm going to work on this. If not, I'll work on it as soon as I get back to college in about a month because I won't have time until then. This would be so sweet! Right now when I wear a hose clamp (with electrical tape wrapped around the metal rather than pipe insulation for stealth PE reasons) and an ROP at the same time my sac skin gets pinched in between the rod and the clamp. It hurts!
REDZULU2003
07-28-04, 07:28 PM
I'm abit lost in all of this lol
What are we trying to achive here? getting a clamp like ROP into the mix??
I'm abit lost in all of this lol
What are we trying to achive here? getting a clamp like ROP into the mix??
Well, what I'm seeing in my head is a standard cable clamp, with zinc and copper plates inlaid in the inside diameter. That way, you'd get all the compression effects that the clamp provides, plus any electrochemical benefits that the zinc and copper enduce.
REDZULU2003
07-29-04, 06:41 PM
I see, so 2 in 1.
XtremeGrowth
07-30-04, 08:35 PM
Why not superglue some plates within the plastic "Cable Clamps". I've been thinking of doing this but haven't yet.
The plates are fairly thin and very malleable, so it should work.
Why not superglue some plates within the plastic "Cable Clamps". I've been thinking of doing this but haven't yet.
The plates are fairly thin and very malleable, so it should work.
A few questions: 1) Where would you get the plates? 2) Is the copper "refrigerator grade"? and 3) Is the zinc >99% pure?
XtremeGrowth
07-30-04, 11:25 PM
I would get the plates from some place that sells chemistry/scientific supplies to schools and the public.
I think they would be called zinc or copper electrodes, they are 1X6. As for purity, if they are used for scientific demonstrations and teaching I would suspect some decent purity.
I also scruffed the surface of both plates with a dremel to make sure I got maximum conductivity out of the metal.
XtremeGrowth
07-30-04, 11:31 PM
A quick google search yielded the following links:
Zinc
http://gallery.bcentral.com/GID4801557-Shop.aspx?SearchString=zinc&SearchButton=
Copper
http://gallery.bcentral.com/GID4801557-Shop.aspx?SearchString=copper&SearchButton=
I have NOT done business with these guys so I DO NOT endorse them, this is just an example of what I am talking about.
I found a local supplier for the strips that I am using, you might want to try that avenue first.
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