ROP Vs. $2 cock rings....

[stillwantmore]

Ok, now that I dont have to worry about hurting anyones feelings/profits, because you pretty much have to make these on your own like before, I want a debate on this issue.

There's been a LOT of hype the last several months about the ROP concept and the supposed benefits of wearing this device. Whether you make one yourself or had previously ordered one. Some of the supposed benefits include:

*Raised testosterone levels ('some' people going so far as saying theyve never felt more alive or better about themselves since wearing the device)

*Increased ejaculation volume

*Harder Erections

*Bigger Flaccid Hang

*"Miraculous" ability to supposedly heal other parts of the body, or aid in faster healing.

Ok, I wore a ROP for several months.

I saw very little change in anything physically or mentally. Nothing that could be proven as a direct result of wearing the ROP. My ejaculation volume 'may' have increased slightly, but then again...nothing for sure. My water intake/diet habits fluctuate, and that (especially water intake) can impact ejaculation volume as well.

Erection strength for me did not change either.

Flaccid hang appeared a little better, but not by much when wearing the ROP around the whole package (cock/balls).

So, my personal conclusions from my own experience, are that the ROP is little more than a gimmick, at least until I see it documented otherwise.

Supra supposedly had his doctor check his testosterone levels, and they supposedly increase...and very dramatically, but how about some of the other members who own a ROP, or have worn one in the past???

I never saw any 'tell tale' signs of an increase in testosterone production such as an increase in oily skin, acne, or more body hair.

As far as the ROP Vs. a Cock Ring goes.

Sure we're talking two almost totally different ideas here. However, I recal seeing the ROP reported as having the ability to perform similar to a cock ring in that it may temporarily give a slight size increase when worn while erect. Again, the only person I recal seeing report such a thing is again....Supra.

So, if buying or making a ROP for the simple idea of a bigger flaccid hang, or a bigger erect size...why not just buy a $2 cock ring?? I can definitely say for certain that a cock ring does these things for me. Not so for the ROP.

SO....how about some of you other guys?? I know more than a few members have bought one of these ROPs. What are the honest results?

[BeBobBox]

wuts up with cock rings? how does it not fall off when your super small / not hurt when your erect?

[kausion_420]

Im not sure how I would feel about having a metal cock ring on after a girth session. Whereas I can where my ROP during and after a girth session. Also my ROP when worn all night gives me awsome morning wood. Im not sure if a cock ring does that.

Also wouldn't a cock ring be bad for you if worn all the time? Like wouldn't it stop the flow of blood and weaken your erection after awhile.

[pupper]

No I agree with Still, I don't have a rop so I can't say if ther are benefits.But I do wear cock rings all day and they give a good flacid hang and actually seem to give me a bit of a foreskin(i'm cut)Island rings work well because o=they have three different sizes.One is the smallest it doesn't work because its just too small, the other two work well for me but they stretch out after a couple of weeks of wear and after about three weeks they break.
The breaks occur when I am erect,especially while using silagra.I also take silagra every day and it seems to help with flacid hang and its cheaper than all the other supplements that I was taking.And I do use more than 100 mg in a day for all day fuck fests with the wife.I usually dose 50 mg at a time over the course of the day when I do take in excess of 100mg though.I also have beeen using alsigra,they come in a foil pack of four 50mg doses.I have been very impressed with the alsigra product.Suhagra on the other hand doesn't seem as good as silagra or alsigra.this nmay just be psycological.

[stillwantmore]

If a cock ring is fit properly...not hard to do, it wont fall off when youre flaccid. See this thread with pics of my new ring. (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10309)

I wear mine pretty much 24/7 now, and love it. Bigger flaccid all the time, and erections are easier to get. Not that I have probs there, it's hard to explain, but erections are just easier to get. Erections are more intense because of the extra pressure, and I get about 1/4" extra girth when erect with the ring on. Glans fills up all the way too, which makes sex a LOT better because the glans gets more contact.

[kausion_420]

Im down to try new things. So when you wear your cock ring your penis dont hurt at all?

I tried using a small piece of cloth and then using a elastic band and had it on for about an hour then I started feeling numb. I had to take it off when it started to hurt.

[RazedNegative]

I've worn rubber cock rings before, and, kausion I think you meant when you wear your cock ring your penis doesnt hurt. And no, it doesnt hurt. Not for me at least. I mean, sure, if you tried to put something way too tight on it would be uncomfortable, but I had a three pack of silicone type rings, and they were pretty comfortable. Even underneath a condom (I wore three at once, one around the balls, one around the base of the shaft, and one right underneath the glans.) Was pretty intense.

I do like my RoP, and I wear it as much as possible, but I havn't seen any real noticible effects yet in the 3 weeks or so I've been wearing it. Flaccid hang is better and it doesnt shrivel up, but like still said, a regular cock ring can do that.

[kausion_420]

So why didn't you people come out with this honest information back in the day before we all bought our $50-65 dollar ROP's??

[stillwantmore]

LOL conspiracies, man! J/K. On the cockrings,....I guess a "comfortable discomfort" is the way I would describe it when erect. Like a prolonged Uli Squeeze or something.

[RazedNegative]

Kausion, I got mine way after you did. I've only had mine for like 3 weeks now. I have no idea about testosterone levels, but my ejac volume etc seems the same I'd say. I'm still stickin with it tho, no beefs with the RoP here. I just bought 8 feet of latext tubing and a 1 foot tube of refrige grade copper at Lowe's for like 10 bucks.

For some reason my copper gets really shitty looking quick.

[kausion_420]

Ya my copper gets crap too. I never really thought of replacing it though. I bought 20 feet of latex tubing last night so Im good for awhile.

I wanna try out one of these cock rings. See if I can wear it with my ROP all day.

[RazedNegative]

If you go to any of them online sex toy stores they have TONS of different types of cock rings. I recommend starting out with the silicone, stretchy type. I'd be kinda worried about a metal one like still's gettin stuck on. Man would that be embarrassing.

[loco]

I have to admit I had mixed results with ROP. not sure how it'd compare to a cock ring, as ROP was my first expiernce with either. what would be the purpose of a cockring around your sack? it cause any damage?

[the grinch]

I agree with still I didn't like the rop I felt my flaccid seemed smaller and my balls felt a little bigger but it seemed to be more of a fluid build up yes I agree everyone has different effects and thats great for the peeps that had positive effects but to me its just like the magic pill that will make you huge face it you have to work your ass off to get any real progress kinda tired of of every now and again someone comes up with 10 bucks of crap and thinks its worth 50 so far the only thing I have seen out their worth the money is the bib,and I hope to get one soon,anyway thats my vent and I gotta go pour another drink .....cheers :)

[PaloMalo]

I just got my first cock ring type of thingie a few weeks back and I have been wearing it occasionally after jelqing to keep the pump....I

like it...

The kind I ordered was a lasso type of cockring with basically some rubber tubing that you tighten to your desired level....its pretty comfortable. I was afraid to start out with a real metal one that may not be my correct size. I'm not very handy but even though the ring I bought was cheap like $5...it seems like something that can be made for less than a few bucks....

[Donka666]

ha, gullible people got jipped. $65 to learn a lesson is still pretty high though.

[9cyclops9]

I wouldn't go that far man. I've gotten good results with my ROP, but not as good as Supra. I did notice bigger flaccid hang and all the cockring benefits, but I also started to grow more hair in places like my chest, which never had hair, and now I have at least 6 hairs :D. Also my pubic hair has gotten noticeably thicker in the last few months. The size of my loads isn't of much interest to me, so I haven't really paid enough attention to that to notice any change.

So anyway, yeah the ROP did some good stuff for me that a cockring would not have done. Good thing I got mine when he was only charging $50. :D

[Ulcasterdropout]

I built my own. I can't say as to if it works or not, cause i'm still on PCT from my last T cycle. Anyways, the premise sounds far-fetched, but I could use the left over parts if the ROP is bunk. I'm trying it out right now.
I reckon you've wanted to make that post for a while...

[kausion_420]

Ive seen positive results from it unless all those effects are just in my head I dunno. Either way 50 bux isn't that much money considering I spend more on other crap all the time.

I just find it funny how everyone decides to now come clean and say they didn't see anything good from it now that the guy who is making em is leaving and no longer doing the business.

If I never seen absolutely no results from it I would have posted right away. At least then other people wouldn't have such high hopes about it. Oh well this opened my eyes so that the next time someone is selling something I know not to ask for honest answers before buying.

[Jareth]

I got mixed results from my rop. Sometimes i have a full dick and am horney as hell. While other times it seems like it gives me a small flacid hang. I dont know what to say about it??????????? I wore it to bed the other nite and i woke up with a great hang no morning wood but my dick was hanging low. But today i wore it to work and my dick was turtled dont know body chemistry has much to do with it in my opinion.

[levista]

As someone who just spent way too much time doing the RoP faq (see my sig for links) I think the single biggest problems with the RoP (and this is just my opinion) was;

1.that it was too strongly pushed in the beginning (not enough balance to info)
2.people wanted it to work (some sort of palcebo effect?)
3.people posted too quickly of short-term results that could largely be attributed to a cock ring
4.the constant posting for info/reports/feedback/places to buy parts gave the whole thing a momentum that made it look like the biggest thing ever, which resulted in more posts etc etc
5.almost no-one took measureable test levels on the way in, so almost no-one can "prove" their results
6.And finally that Supras "passionate" way of posting helped push everyone to one side of the fence, and left no one sitting on the fence :)

I tried to give a balanced view on the RoP in the FAQ. My final conclusions are fairly straightforward from reading all the RoP posts here in a small time-frame, and the impressions that I personally am left with are that;

1.The RoP functions firstly as a cock-ring. In the early days this is where you will see fast benefits and is responsible for all those "hallelujah" postings. This increases the flaccid hang, erection "pump" and maybe ball size.
2.The RoP creates an electric charge that releases the Zinc from the rod into your body close to the area responsible for testosterone production, and Test production seems to increase. There have been documented results from users other than Supra on this (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6115) and it seems basic science that this is occuring. Now, whether or not you will see gains is hard to know, I suspect a multiplier effect occurs where for example if you have low Test, if the RoP doubles it you will see a small but welcome difference but if you have high Test to begin with you'll see a lot of difference (potentially). Like all things PE we are in the dark about a lot of this, winging our way through it and without the clarity that would come from us all being in a scientific lab environment.

Bottom line, I feel the RoP does work, and has benefitted me personally so I would recommend it. I do feel it was a victim of its own success and has been over-promoted. It is no magic pill and (imho) deserves its place in the PE arsenal as one of many tools that people can experience some success with.

Finally, the RoP and the PE legend Supra have seemingly become intertwined which arguably has hurt the RoP. As we all know Supra is a passionate guy and some MoS users have judged one by the other. If we can seperate the two, as I hope I have, a cold clinical look at the RoP should result in the RoP standing up as an item of some benefit to most PE'ers.

Happily, the info is out there (see faq) for anyone wanting to make their own and for you yanks it should come in at like $10 if you want to try for yourself.

[stillwantmore]

Well, I really hope I dont come across as saying the whole ROP/Blakoe Ring/Hubbard Ring is a total waste of time, or has absolutely zero merrit. I just feel like there's a 'little' too much hype behind the concept. As stated above by others, I also feel the results may be more noticeable for some men than others. The basic electro-thingy concept is factual science and is sound in theory as far as potential physical benefits go, but again that most likely varies from man to man, and as with many other things related to PE, depends on WAY too many different factors related to each individual man and his circumstances to be able to measure anything accurately.

So, for my own personal conclusion.

I think someone like myself is much better off with a cock ring. I get the benefits I want, when I want.

[dogsdoodahs]

The rop was really being pushed hard when I joined. Supra wanted $75 for one but a guy in the UK had some left over materials that he sent me for free.

I thought there would be more people defending the rop and supra, who were those guys with supra's picture in their sigs?

[kausion_420]

That's what is getting me. Most of em all had those pics in their signatures saying "Supra says buy yer damn ROP!" or something like that. Now all of a sudden it's a big scam? I just dont know.

It was being pushed too much though thats the reason I bought mine. For $50 though I don't have a problem with it as I get morning wood and have seen changes since wearing it. Those who saw no changes should have posted earlier especially when the price was lifted from $50-65.

[Lz2483]

I liked lavista's post, and I agree with what he says.

I have seen benefits from the ROP and have experimented with it a bit myself. I however, did not spend 50 USD on it. I went out and bought the materials for under 10 USD and made it myself.

In Supra's defense, I will say that he never MADE anyone buy a ROP. He even provided a link to the directions for making your own that can be found at Thunders forum. So, if the hype sold a few ROP's your not really losing out on anything because it does have it's benefits. One that wasn't mentioned was increasing blood flow into and around the penis which in itself is healthier.

IMO I would recommend using one, but I personally wouldn't spend 50 USD on one. A blind man with one arm and half a brain could assemble one of these, so unless your a lazy sloth, don't waste your money, go make one yourself.

As for cock rings, I have no experience with them and probably won't get any in the near future.

[MDC]

It's not like this is a new thing. These rings have been around and discussed for years, and the benefits vary for different people. I made one for myself, and do expect to see some benefit from wearing it. I think that the high price for pre-made ones(not only Supra's), does affect expectations.

I bought the parts for about $10, and it's enough to make 3 of them easily. The time involved in the manufacture is only as long as it takes for you to cut and prep the metal pieces, which is a few minutes.

Not everyone has the same results from any PE routine or device.

[REDZULU2003]

You could also use a cable clamp instead of a cock ring and cut off the pointy part from stickin in you all the time, this is called ADC.

[bigbutnottoo]

I just find it funny how everyone decides to now come clean and say they didn't see anything good from it now that the guy who is making em is leaving and no longer doing the business.

I agree. And I think I Missed something. What happened to Supra? Did he leave MOS or something?

[REDZULU2003]

I thought there would be more people defending the rop and supra, who were those guys with supra's picture in their sigs?

People just want to find out the truth into the ROP and its similer devices, its nothing to do with defending anyone, i.e Supra.
Its not an attack, so why the hell would anyone wonna defend? it must have or be taken the wrong way than.



those pics in their signatures saying "Supra says buy yer damn ROP!" or something like that. Now all of a sudden it's a big scam? I just dont know

I always thought that was strange anyway, alot of those members were very small posters and not regulers.
Its like they were doing it like a commercial on TV to get the public to buy the product, but why???? or whom perhaps could have been behind it we'll never know.

[Casey]

Maybe those people were "fake members". I made myself an Rop and wore it for a while and I liked it, but after a while it was like "whats the point". It didnt do much.

Now that I have read some of these posts Iam now wondering why I, myself, wasnt more subjective and skeptical. I remember now that I saw a show about those "healing-magnets" wristbands. They were suppposed to cure joint aches and do all sorts of other crap. The show basically showed how that was all bullshit. Actually now that I think about it, the show was called "Penn & Teller: Bullshit!"

I dont know if the whole "Rop, electricity, testosterone" theory is junk, but I think I'll give the RoP one last chance, then decide to either keep it, or toss it.

[Dashdeming]

Guys, don't take anyone's word for it. Simply get your free and total testosterone baseline tested and then wear the ring for 30 days and then re-test. You must clean the metals daily. I can't stress this enough as the potential delta between these two metals causes an electrolytic action. If you don't keep it clean then it will not work at all because the surfaces become plated with the converse molecules and therefore have a much reduced surface potential.

[kausion_420]

I always thought that was strange anyway, alot of those members were very small posters and not regulers.
Its like they were doing it like a commercial on TV to get the public to buy the product, but why???? or whom perhaps could have been behind it we'll never know.

I remember a few members having them and they were regulars. I would see their signatures all over the place and the ROP got branded into my brain. Good thing I had already purchased one hehe.

[levista]

I would love it if anyone was to test their testosterone levels before the RoP and then say 3 months after....

[Dashdeming]

I did it and my total went from low 300 range to mid 500 range. This is not a huge jump at all because I would rather be in the 1000 range. I also was able to add DHEA by mouth and this gave me another 50 or so points. The thing the doc pointed out to me was that the estradiol levels fell a bit and he says that makes a big difference in the amount of body fat a man carries. I would have to say that my results are on the positive side, however, one person is really not enough to prove that the ring works simply because something else could have changed in my life such as diet, stress level reductions, excercise routine changes and so forth. So, more guys need to do a baseline test and then build and wear one of these and then re-test while taking lots of good lifestyle notes.

[wants9]

Why not try to "shotgun" it and use both an ROP and latex cock ring? So long as there's still metal on skin contact (or if you just wear the ROP around your balls), you'd get any potential effects from both devices.

[crazyed27]

I always thought that was strange anyway, alot of those members were very small posters and not regulers.
Its like they were doing it like a commercial on TV to get the public to buy the product, but why???? or whom perhaps could have been behind it we'll never know.


We know RED! :D

[pupper]

I like mine a little on the tight side flaccid and agree with still about the slight pressure/pain when erect.And boy does it bring up the veins in my cock.also I notice a little fluid build up just behind the head similar to the fluid build up from pumping but not as extreme.Pumping just makes for a spongy erection.My wife doesn't like the spongy erection she likes the rock hard no give erection

[wants9]

Are there any suggested brands that those who wear the rings would suggest? I think it's lavista that uses the lasso, right?

Also, how often do you wear it? Sorry if I'm treading over old territory, but I've been out fighting jaberwockys for the past couple weeks.

[kausion_420]

Sorry if I'm treading over old territory, but I've been out fighting jaberwockys for the past couple weeks.

?:( Im quite confused sir, please elaborate.

[pupper]

I buy Island rings,the smallest one is way to small the other two I stretch out until they break then I buy more.They cost about $4.00 per pack

[wants9]

?:( Im quite confused sir, please elaborate.
Just a joke. The jaberwocky is a forest monster made up by Lewis Carol (same guy who wrote Alice in Wonderland). Just my way of saying I've been busy.

[wants9]

I buy Island rings,the smallest one is way to small the other two I stretch out until they break then I buy more.They cost about $4.00 per pack
Cool, thanks. Have a link, by any chance? Also, do you wear them 24/7, or what?

[RazedNegative]

The Island Rings are nice, Ive used them, just recently broke the biggest one tho. You can get em at any porn store, online or IRL usually.

[wants9]

These them (http://nawtythings.com/toys/se1429.html)? Just want to make sure I get the right thing. Also, has anyone gotten any permanant results from these?

[RazedNegative]

Yep, thats them man. Get two packs of em so you don't have to worry about one breakin. They are cheap enough ya know?

[stillwantmore]

Are there any suggested brands that those who wear the rings would suggest? I think it's lavista that uses the lasso, right?

Also, how often do you wear it? Sorry if I'm treading over old territory, but I've been out fighting jaberwockys for the past couple weeks.

I like the metal ($2) rings available at: http://www.backlashleather.com

[wants9]

Those look spiffy, although I would be concerned about being unable to get a metal ring off in an emergency. With silicone, I could always cut the ring if need be.

[stillwantmore]

I cant fathom such an emergency. Ok, maybe if you took a couple hundred milligrams of Viagra, put your cock ring on, and then did a super intense girth workout, and then were struck with a severe bout of priapism (damn, the gods are really pissed at you eh?). Not gonna happen though. If the ring will go on when youre flaccid, it will come off when youre flaccid. It's that simple.

[wants9]

lol that does make me a little more confident. This will be my very first time using a cockring, though (not counting the ROP, if you count that at all), so I'll probably go with silicone just to get comfortable with things, and then see about going chrome from there.

[bigbutnottoo]

Ok. I have decided I am not going to do any PE whatsoever or take any supplements for an extended period of time. My diet will stay the same. I am going to do nothing but wear the ROP almost 24/7 and see what happens.

[levista]

Ok. I have decided I am not going to do any PE whatsoever or take any supplements for an extended period of time. My diet will stay the same. I am going to do nothing but wear the ROP almost 24/7 and see what happens.

Err....dont ! Seriously !

All the RoP does is add some testosterone (with related effects) and function as a cock ring. For crying out loud dont interrupt your PE for this, if you've been wearing the RoP already for any length of time the effects may already be in your system.

Appreciate the offer though :) :)

[pupper]

The island rings are cheap and they do break alot but I wear them 24/7
The smallest one if you can get it on will break in a heart beat

[ItsElectric]

Geez, I still haven't bought a couple of these!! I've been meaning to.. All I know is that after I buy them, I'll post some pics.

-ItsElectric

[witty]

lol fighting jaberwockies, well the worlds a safer place now, thanks.

[pupper]

Electric, I thought you were going to buy some,some time ago, maybe I should pick you up a pack and ship em to ya,whens your birthday i'll send em to ya for your birthday pup rofl

[MoreForSLG]

Hello All! Well I decided to post my results of wearing the ROP for three months now. I'm not very known here but I have been in the PE world for a little over a year now. So here we go...

1. When I wear the ROP my balls seem a lot bigger. But they go back down when I take it off.

2. It seems to help after girth exercises, cuz my penis stays nice and fat for awhile. Not sure about flaccid hang long term though. Get great erections.

3. No bigger loads, yet when I wear this thing during masturbation or sex, my orgasms are much more intense feeling. I literally get chills. Never wore a cock ring before. Have heard that wearing the ROP around your balls only, gives you the bigger loads.

4. So all in all, it almost feels like this thing is helping out with PE, but I'm not sure. I can't see how you would be able to gain with it if your not exercising, and I'm surely not going to try and find that out.

And lastly, I respect and look up to Supra for everything he's done and contributed to MOS. But you have to figure that he had done so much in his PE career that you have to wonder about all of those things he attributed to the ROP. He has done so much every day and has so much in his PE arsenal that how could it all just be attributed to the ROP? But then again, it's not like I know what the fuck I'm talking about anyway. But I do still feel that the ROP is worth wearing and if anything, it definitely helps the blood flow and aids your workouts. I guess it's different for everyone.

PEACE OUT...........

[ItsElectric]

Electric, I thought you were going to buy some,some time ago, maybe I should pick you up a pack and ship em to ya,whens your birthday i'll send em to ya for your birthday pup rofl
lol, my birthday's not until April, but you can send them if you want! :D

-ItsElectric

[Sinker]

Guys,
Hi, I'm Sinker and have been happily 'lurking around' since last year.
Not intentional, I wanted to contribute my 2 cents worth many times but you guys are doing better than alright!
You guys are a really great bunch, my total respects for the regulars who go out to provide support to fellow PEers, be guinea pigs trying out all sorts of concoctions, new methods new stretch techniques (DLD's pretzel got me laughing out loud until my ole lady asked what was so funny!, Oh BTW, I did get a lig pop doing it! 1st time too!.)
Off and On I have been PEing, only more regular lately.

I started off about 20 years ago when I was 5" BPL and 4" girth.
Those days, it was self discovery and experimenting. I stopped after getting married and priority changed. (Was happy with 6"then!)

I restarted again about late last year after stumbling onto Thunder and then MOS) and have noticed some good things, hard wood every morning (them kegels are very important for serious PEers!)
I don't hardly measure, but recently, for the heck of it, I took out the cloth rule and measured - hmmm! 175mm (6.88" x 5.5") not bad for 'an ole timer, I'm 54 btw.

Ok, coming back to the ring thing! If you are like me who travel alot, leave the metal ring in your puter bag. You don't want to get caught wearing it when going thru' the airport formalities!

I will write in to contribute, add or comment from now on (do my fair bit for the PE community!) SO, if you have any questions fire away! I'm cool!
God Bless!

[pupper]

The old metal ring thru the metal detector,It would be a bad day like going into The city of Atlanta city hall(their metal detector would pick up tin foil)while getting permits,or any county or city building.I don't fly alot so that would not be a problem,I prefer the flexible silicone rings because they have some give to em even though they break regularly,gives me a good reason to be in the local sex shop. pup :)

[MoreForSLG]

well, i've been through airport security twice with my ROP on and it never set off any detectors. Although I was worried about it and forgot to take it off when I got to security, there were no problems whatsoever.

[ecstasis]

The science behind the RoP is undeniable, if you look into it. Modern Medicine is always seeking to make people doubt the effects of any product that uses electricity to increase your heath, because profits would drop like a rock if people did not feel they needed some drug for every little thing and/or if people got sick less in general. That's why the media always seeks to show these alternative "holistic" techniques in a negative light.

To put it in a better light, bio-electric methods have been used for all sorts of medical breakthroughs that have been disregarded by the Medical Community. In the 1930's, a man created a device which supposedly cured cancer using electrical waves of certain frequencies. After he refused to sell the rights to it, he was slapped with so many lawsuits and trials that he just faded away. There is also a patent on a device created in 1992 that was able to destroy the AIDS virus in infected blood.

I think you get the picture.

Basically, the science behind the RoP is right on, even if it is rejected by the established medical fascists. Why has the RoP not worked for everyone? People are making their own, based on someone's unofficial adaptation of an existing design. The "Blakoe Ring" on Tom Hubbard's site goes only around the testes. The RoP goes around the entire package. If the electric current isn't touching the balls at all, how is semen/testosterone supposed to really increase?

Also, everyone's package is different. What if the amount of metal you used was too big, or too small? What if some people's balls are touching the current, and some people's are not?

Unlike other products or devices on the market, the RoP should probably adapted to you specifically, and tested by you. So, get some kind of device that checks voltage. Make sure you're getting some. Also, try switching where the metal is on your package (up/down instead of side/side).

TRY THINGS AND STICK WITH THEM. That's why I'm doing.

[ecstasis]

"It was a hard plastic ring with metal contacts on which fitted around my testicles and penis. Although it was uncomfortable to wear I persevered because the company said it would take six weeks to work. It did work. My erections came back and my ejaculation spurts increased from five or six to a record breaking 25 spurts. My wife was amazed. A further blood test showed normal to high levels of testosterone. Big problem. "

For those of you too lazy to visit Tom Hubbard's website, that's the story of the guy from whom Tom's design comes from. It took that guy 6 weeks to attain results, and that's from the Blakoe Ring company.

[pooperscooper]

what exactly is it supposed to do though?

[Terry Thomas]

My ROP is home made, for about $7.50, I have noticed some improvements in the flaccid state, I also get a great erection in the morning's. My ROP is based on a two diodes in series, they generate .7 volts across each section, the total voltage is 1.4 -1.8 volts that is felt in the total package.

As far cock rings are concerned, the best and the cheapest cost about $.25c each. Go to Walmart and buy very soft rubber handle bar grips for $5.00 for two. Then cut each grip in ten sections, each section will be 3/8" thick. You will get 10 rings out of each grip. $5/20 = $.25c. These rings last about a month each. So two grip will last 20 months.

It is very important that you select the correct grips. The one you need are (Bell Gel Twist shift grips, Part number 506425) any other type will not work as well, or offer the comfort of the Bell gel grips.

[shism2]

i did see alot of acne lol with the rop

[Adolf Hilter]

I would have to say that for those of you who paid $50.00 or more, you have suprad. You can make a ROP for $5.5 US, I made one and it has done nothing for me.

[Adolf Hilter]

I would have to say that for those of you who paid $50.00 or more, you have suprad. You can make a ROP for $5.5 US, I made one and it has done nothing for me. By the way what is silagra

[homelesswombat]

I immediately saw the effects: return of morning wood, oily skin, acne, insomnia. I didn't like the acne and insomnia so I've stopped using it. Instead now I just don't masturbate. BTW my zinc anode is +99% pure zinc, not galvanized steel so that may make a difference.

To you guys with mixed results: Shave. If the copper and zinc are resting on a bed of pubes the ROP is useless. The current runs through your tissue from one side of your junk to the other. Wherever you prefer wearing the zinc and copper rods (sides or top/bottom) that needs to have skin to metal contact for the device to work.

[mlb092]

bump

[REDZULU2003]

Stillwantmore's opinion and should be taken as that and not fact by anyone thinking the whole ROP concept is bullshit. Its his opinion, thats fine but remember many guys have seen good things from the ROP and proved it with testosterone levels taken.