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BigRig
09-05-03, 03:20 PM
I have been doing this for a few weeks now.
Before your routine massage your tool with some muscle rub (the cream for sore muscles). It will improve your P.E. session greatly.

The reasoning -
The penis is made up of smooth muscle among other things. Smooth muscle you can't control the contraction or relaxation, so it is logical if you could make the smooth muscle relax that would equal a better workout.

Now I am hearing people yelling at the top of their lungs about how muscle rub is for skeletal muscles. Now open up your mind for a second, let that brain fart loose ;) and read on.

In order to accomplish such, the active ingredient has to be menthol, a optional active ingredient is camphor, but it must contain menthol.

A little about the ingredients -

Menthol is natural smooth muscle relaxer and improves blood flow to the area.

Camphor stimulates localized blood flow and reddening of the skin, the skin thing is why I say it is optional.

If you decide to try this get a rub that contains at least 10% of active ingredient. Also try to stay away from ones that contain alchohol, it will dry your skin. The ones that turn cold would be annoying also.

All of this is only temporary, but lasts long enough for a P.E. session.

Just think, some of the perks of arginine (in a temporary package) for a few dollars.




-BigRig

doublelongdaddy
09-05-03, 04:59 PM
Cool...I'll give it a go.

Gandolf
09-05-03, 06:34 PM
Are you suggesting a cream like IcyHot? I once put that on my dick. I won't go into the details, but NEVER AGAIN!

8 isn't enough
09-05-03, 07:28 PM
The smooth muscle is covered by collagen and there isn't much that can penetrate it. This is why they have such problems with PGE1 being transdermal.

Ofcourse, I never argue with results.

BigRig
09-05-03, 07:31 PM
Gandolf

I can imagine what you went through. thats a rough one on skin, I dont even want to try that on sensitive skin. Stuff that turns icy would be hard to deal with.

pUNKY
09-06-03, 01:58 AM
Can someone name a brand thats safe to try?

REDZULU2003
09-06-03, 06:00 AM
Could get some Menthol plant and apply the leaves to the penis.
I have loadz at home.

stillwantmore
09-06-03, 07:15 AM
Or, you might could make your own mint syrup with the leaves Red and add some aloe to it.?

REDZULU2003
09-06-03, 08:55 AM
Yeah, we also have aloa vera too.
The plant we have is HUGE.

BigRig
09-06-03, 10:08 AM
The brand i have tried is tiger balm arthrites rub, has 11% menthol and 11% camphor.

I am a big believer in holistic medicine. Presently I am testing a mixture. I have been mixing my own medicines for years and quite knowledgable in this feild.

Red, you could try the menthol mix but be careful. The wrong strength and it wont do nothing for you, too muchand it can cuase problems like burning your skin.

8 isn't enough
09-06-03, 12:18 PM
What penetration enhancer does it have? MSM?

BigRig
09-06-03, 04:02 PM
Yes it has msm in it.
If your skin is too sensitive try take a drop of rub and a drop of lotion so that its diluted.
i wasnt thinking of some peoples sensitivity, so test on small area first.

8 isn't enough
09-06-03, 04:23 PM
Well, MSM is one thing that can penetrate to the tunica. I'm a believer now. MSM is some good shit. Mixed with the methonal and you have a good ass PE aid.

8 isn't enough
09-06-03, 06:00 PM
I just went and bought that Tiger Balm and man......I can feel it through my veins, leading all the way back to my pre scrotal area.

My first thoughts: It was warm and when I started to stretch, it was a bit irratating. The skin is a little sore from the application. I will try it again tommorrow and see if I still get that type of stinging while stretching.

BigRig
09-06-03, 07:38 PM
8, glad your giving it a go.
I dont do many stretching exercises, but if it irritated the skin try using less and possibly mixing a drop with hand lotion.
I know for a fact it really helps girth exercises like the jelq and uli, because thats mostly what i do.

8 isn't enough
09-08-03, 09:16 AM
I have noticed that I can get a better girth workout with this. How is your gains using it? How often do you use it?

penguinsfan
09-11-03, 05:14 AM
What is the texture of this stuff like? Does it absorb right into the skin, or does it sort of campout on the outside? Reason I'm asking is that I want to implement wet jelqs into my routine and I'm wondering whether this stuff serves as a decent lube, or if it needs wiped off before the exercises begin, in favor of vaseline.

pole
09-11-03, 08:40 AM
We discussed this topic way back on peforums.

Take a finger tip(a small one!) of tiger balm mix it with some baby oil and apply to your dick and wonder how nice it works;)

Never apply it pure!!!

And be careful not to ejaculate to quickly the first few times you apply. It creates some quite exciting sensation:D

I didn't use long time. Thanks for the reminder!

pole

pole
09-11-03, 08:46 AM
Ah, I forgot:

as an alternative you could use toothpaste with menthol.
Apply and wash off after a minut or so.

8 isn't enough
09-11-03, 12:07 PM
Thanks pole. Shit was burning a bit. Where were you a few days ago? ;)

penguinsfan
09-12-03, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by pole
as an alternative you could use toothpaste with menthol.
Apply and wash off after a minut or so.

Does this go for both of them, or just the toothpaste? Can the Tiger Balm/baby oil be used as a wet jelq lube?

KingD
09-14-03, 03:57 AM
I have found something at www.drleonards.com in the Health Products section underneath Pain Relief, called Ultra Blue. It contains MSM, Menthol, Emu Oil, Vitamin C, and Aloe Vera. Should I use this for a PE aide and if so how would I use it in my PE routine? This website also carries extra strength Tiger Balm.

pole
09-15-03, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by penguinsfan
Does this go for both of them, or just the toothpaste? Can the Tiger Balm/baby oil be used as a wet jelq lube?

just toothpaste.
Yes, tiger balm/baby oil can be used as a wet jelq lube.

penguinsfan
09-15-03, 03:01 AM
Awesome. I will give this a try when I get a chance to pick some up and I'll post my results.

KingD
09-15-03, 11:30 PM
Is this tiger balm/baby oil technique primarily for getting a good erection for girth gains or can it be used for stretching for length gains also?

8 isn't enough
09-16-03, 03:09 PM
I use it but with aloe vera lotion. It bothers my skin a bit.

pole
09-17-03, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by KingD
Is this tiger balm/baby oil technique primarily for getting a good erection for girth gains or can it be used for stretching for length gains also?

As it relaxes smooth muscle tissue I would say for both.

But I use it occasionally only when I'm tired to help erection.

pole
09-17-03, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by 8 isn't enough
I use it but with aloe vera lotion. It bothers my skin a bit.

take less of tiger balm and use only every other day and you will be fine.

inamo
09-17-03, 03:25 PM
The ingredients say nothing about tiger balm containing MSM. And can someone please explain to me what MSM does and its benefits.

8 isn't enough
09-17-03, 03:34 PM
MSM is a relative of DMSO and is a penetration enhancer, great for pain, also is good for collagen synthesis. It is capable of reaching the Tunica when hardly any other transdermal can do this. Most of all other transdermals get into the blood stream before they ever reach the tunica.

inamo
09-18-03, 03:38 PM
So does tiger balm have MSM or something similar?

8 isn't enough
09-20-03, 10:27 AM
Yes, it has MSM and Glucosamine. Both are great for collagen synthesis.

inamo
09-20-03, 12:26 PM
Just got a little tin of tiger balm white and used it with some mineral oil for jelq lube and its great! I also put it on full strength after my routine. I guess the white version isn't that strong cuz it didn't bother me one bit being full strength and all. Just wanted to share my experience.

penguinsfan
09-20-03, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by 8 isn't enough
Yes, it has MSM and Glucosamine. Both are great for collagen synthesis.

I take glucosamine chondroitin for my joint problems. Do you suppose there could be any benefit from this supplement?

8 isn't enough
09-20-03, 01:16 PM
Yes, I would think so. It's used for arthritis very effectively and I believe that anything that helps collagen synthesis will greatly help PE. This is only my opinion.

The only problem with glucosimine is the low rate of absorbtion. Using it transdermally is the best option.

lonerj
11-09-03, 02:05 PM
Are you guys saying that this will help gains?