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Stuff_
11-21-04, 12:54 AM
Okay, so we've seemed to conclude at least somewhat that girth matters more for a woman's pleasure than length. Now, I wonder which part of girth feels better for them, width or depth?...

Shithead
11-21-04, 01:18 AM
width for looks, but i'd think that the depth would stimulate the clit more.

Stuff_
11-21-04, 01:25 AM
Looks are nice, but this thread is about how it actually feels, not how it looks. I think I read somewhere that some girl said she likes when it can hit the sides... that would be in the favor of width, but you bring up a good point too, especially since the clit is the most sensitive spot.

homeslice1325
11-21-04, 05:17 AM
it would seem to me width because you would split them open more and the walls are very sensitive, so that would be good. the clit would get over stimulated i would think

larry49
11-21-04, 08:41 AM
Now that I am larger I am rethinking it. My wife has begun to complain that it hurts a little. I must use lube and enter her slowly because of the increased thickness. I certainly like the looks of my size now but also hope it doesn't change my sex life.
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Started 6 x 5
Now 8 1/2 x 6 1/2
Goal 10 x 7 ( rethinking)

stillwantmore
11-21-04, 10:00 AM
Girth is pretty much girth when we're talking vaginal/anal penetration. Youre taking up the same amount of volume regardless of the width/depth of your penis.

doublelongdaddy
11-21-04, 10:50 AM
Okay, so we've seemed to conclude at least somewhat that girth matters more for a woman's pleasure than length.

I do not agree:)

I think LENGTH is just as important as GIRTH. For me LENGTH was the main reason I was able to reach the cul de sak in JEN. If I did not have proper length I would not be able to do this. Don't get me wrong, GIRTH is the joint but both have equal importance to me.

philadelph
11-21-04, 11:59 AM
They are both important, but just think about this, a .25 inch girth gain is going to get more female response than a .25 inch length gain any day.

MaNofSteeL
11-21-04, 12:20 PM
They are both important, but just think about this, a .25 inch girth gain is going to get more female response than a .25 inch length gain any day.
I agree.

bigbutnottoo
11-21-04, 12:36 PM
you get it wide and then you hit it sideways, you twist and fuck her from the side.

Texan
11-21-04, 01:00 PM
Well, seeing as how so much of sex is psychological, it seems that a nice wide dick look impresive and might translate into "feeling" good as well. As purely phsyical sensation, it probably varies a little from girl to girl, but I tend to agree with SWM that fat girth is fat girth.

doublelongdaddy
11-21-04, 01:12 PM
you get it wide and then you hit it sideways, you twist and fuck her from the side.

Yeah!

brianrex
11-21-04, 02:00 PM
Now that I am larger I am rethinking it. My wife has begun to complain that it hurts a little. I must use lube and enter her slowly because of the increased thickness. I certainly like the looks of my size now but also hope it doesn't change my sex life.
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Started 6 x 5
Now 8 1/2 x 6 1/2
Goal 10 x 7 ( rethinking)


Okay, Larry, how did you gain 1 1/2" in girth! That's pretty damn good! How long did it take you?

Stuff_
11-21-04, 02:50 PM
I think LENGTH is just as important as GIRTH.I agree that length is also important, I was basing what I said about girth being important on what I read here about it affecting them more and surveys about it linked on here and such.
For me LENGTH was the main reason I was able to reach the cul de sak in JEN. If I did not have proper length I would not be able to do this.But on average how much length does it take to reach that? I'm pretty sure it's different for every woman, but any length beyond that point is unneeded and would probably decrease their pleasure because of lack of contact with your body, when your skin touches theirs when you're in all the way it can stimulate their clit. I don't want to get longer than that, or have enough girth that it hurts them or makes it difficult to please me orally... :)

prince Albert
11-21-04, 03:36 PM
Length is as important as girth,ive found that its much easier to bring my wife to orgasm since gaining extra length,she even admits that she loves the feeling of being fucked hard and deep.

Ive been peing over two years and its only been in the last 4 months that ive seen girth gains,only 5.5 mid shaft.She like the extra thickness only problem is she now gets sore pretty quickly.

She no's i pe and when ive asked her which she prefers the length or girth she says the length.

I think a decent length with a big head would give both partners the best pleasure.

Sundown
11-21-04, 06:46 PM
I'd like to know whats the optimum girth for causing great please without great pain.

We all hear stories of women enjoying 6 1/2 - 7 inches of girth, but for the average girlie, whats the best ? 6" ?

Pharaoh
11-21-04, 07:22 PM
we'd all like to know this, but fact is every girl is different. accept it bro

9cyclops9
11-21-04, 07:29 PM
I would think that most girls fall somewhere in the 6"-6.5" range.

Stuff_
11-21-04, 07:36 PM
I would think that most girls fall somewhere in the 6"-6.5" range.Do you mean to accomodate length or girth?

Stuff_
11-21-04, 07:43 PM
we'd all like to know this, but fact is every girl is different. accept it broI know every girl is different, but there should be some kind of average, like there generally is for us. Not that we would know what that is... or we'd know exactly what we should pe to for optimal results for both parties, we don't want to hurt them (well, some might, with some of the goals out there... but I don't want to :s ). I just really don't want to get too big from pe, that would be horrible. I keep asking questions like these time to time... but in the end I think it makes for good research and something good to consider.

9cyclops9
11-21-04, 07:50 PM
Do you mean to accomodate length or girth?

Girth.

Skepdick
11-21-04, 08:58 PM
Okay, so we've seemed to conclude at least somewhat that girth matters more for a woman's pleasure than length. Now, I wonder which part of girth feels better for them, width or depth?...As long as a cock is roughly spherical, or even an oval shape, it probably makes no real difference.

larry49
11-21-04, 11:59 PM
Hi Brianrex Yes I have done pretty good
--4 1/2 years of Penile Enlargement exercises- Thats how I gained the length and the girth -And being very consistent - and wanting it so bad I still want a 10 x 7 cock

homeslice1325
11-22-04, 02:41 AM
i think 7.5-8'' length and 6.0-6.5'' girth is the optimal size

AlloyCG
11-22-04, 04:23 AM
I hate to see these threads, optimal size and what not. 6" girth? Guys, that girth is fucking ridiculous. It really is big.

I think we are getting confused with optimal girth for a girl saying "wow guy, that's fucking huge." Anything over 5.5" EG is pretty much huge. Once you pass 5.5, you can't not (double negative) give a girl wonderful sex adventures, and a girl can't say you aren't thick.

My vote goes to anything between 5.5-6.0 as optimal. For me, whenever I'm at 5.5 from a Penis Enlargement engorgment my girlfriend can barely take it for long, even with ample foreplay. The thought of 6" makes her shudder. If I told her I wanted 6.5 she would probably never sleep with me again. Granted, not all women are like this.

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Everyone's different. What is optimal is what makes you happy.

fubar993
11-22-04, 07:18 AM
[QUOTE=AlloyCG

Everyone's different. What is optimal is what makes you happy.[/QUOTE]

Right, and what makes you wife/girlfriend happy. I know my wife can take around 6.5" in girth, so that is the reason I am working on girth more now. My wife was a virgin when we met/married, so it depends on the women, what kinds of things you do, etc. And since I am married and not banging every girl I meet, I am more concerned with what makes her feel good.

bigbutnottoo
11-22-04, 07:42 AM
I do not agree:)

I think LENGTH is just as important as GIRTH. For me LENGTH was the main reason I was able to reach the cul de sak in JEN. If I did not have proper length I would not be able to do this. Don't get me wrong, GIRTH is the joint but both have equal importance to me.


One thing I am wondering concerning length is this ( and I think you would have the best perspective with your range of lengths). I had read people theorize that "bottoming" out so to speak might not be as good for clitoral orgasms because a lot of stimulation comes from the base of the penis actually causing friction on the clit. For example you could grind your way to climax without long strokes. I understand the whole cul-de-sac thing as well. But I was just wondering if you think a penis that is too long ( and presumably not having a massive girth) could actually take away from female pleasure? I am curious because my theory is a large girth combined with full insertion would be best for clit stim.

REDZULU2003
11-22-04, 01:51 PM
Well I have worked my way up through the girth stats and can say that I noticed the girls liking it more at the 6.25-6.50'' stages.
Girls still enjoy my meat now when I get some tail that is, but I do get the feeling from reactions and other reactions that the early to mid 6'' is the ideal size for woman around here anyway......but anything IMHO over 6 inches is BIG, get into that region and your a fuckin stud lol

doublelongdaddy
11-22-04, 02:03 PM
One thing I am wondering concerning length is this ( and I think you would have the best perspective with your range of lengths). I had read people theorize that "bottoming" out so to speak might not be as good for clitoral orgasms because a lot of stimulation comes from the base of the penis actually causing friction on the clit. For example you could grind your way to climax without long strokes. I understand the whole cul-de-sac thing as well. But I was just wondering if you think a penis that is too long ( and presumably not having a massive girth) could actually take away from female pleasure? I am curious because my theory is a large girth combined with full insertion would be best for clit stim.

To Stuff and bigbutnottoo and anyone else with interest in this:)

I do not think that bottoming out is always really bottoming out. The vagina can be confusing as far as depth is concerned. The cervix is positioned in a way that many times guys think they are bottoming out when in actuality they are hitting the cervix. The cervix can be as low as 2" and as deep as 8" depending on the particular anatomy of the woman. I was with a woman who had an extremely low cervix and it was positioned in a way that made intercourse painful for her. If you look at the illustration I posted you can see that in a typical, healthy female there is depth beyond the cervix and this is where the CDS is. Getting around the cervix can take some time, practice and for allot of guys extra length. There is a definite difference is the feel of these two areas and this may be your best ammunition to where you are in the vaginal canal. The cervix feels very much like the tip of your nose as the CDS has a spongy feeling. For many women when a successful insertion happens they get the sensation that they need to pee, this is false and you should encourage them to relax and let things flow as they will quickly realize this is far from urine and reach the best possible orgasm they have ever had.

joeym
11-22-04, 02:17 PM
DLD,
At what length in your Penis Enlargement career did it become easy to hit the CDS? Were you able to hit it at all pre-Penis Enlargement?

TheExecutioner
11-22-04, 02:30 PM
I know this sounds strange to say, but a point that has been made here a lot
"every woman is different" is so true.
The Past few girls i have met and was talking to have admittadly stated that size isnt important but technique is. Not every girl out there even cares about size, it is the person behind it, so long as it isnt to small to feel like less than 4", I think you will find a lot dont care about it.

doublelongdaddy
11-22-04, 02:43 PM
DLD,
At what length in your Penis Enlargement career did it become easy to hit the CDS? Were you able to hit it at all pre-Penis Enlargement?

Right about 8.5" I was in like flynn:) Pre-Penis Enlargement I had no knowledge of these things and none of my girls ever squirted so I never got there.

poonologist
11-22-04, 07:39 PM
Excellent little diagram there DLD.Makes things a bit clearer for even those of us that have some knowledge already.



I know this sounds strange to say, but a point that has been made here a lot
"every woman is different" is so true.
The Past few girls i have met and was talking to have admittadly stated that size isnt important but technique is. Not every girl out there even cares about size, it is the person behind it, so long as it isnt to small to feel like less than 4", I think you will find a lot dont care about it.


Great point and i couldnt agree more.

doublelongdaddy
11-22-04, 08:21 PM
Excellent little diagram there DLD.Makes things a bit clearer for even those of us that have some knowledge already.

Hey, if there is one thing I know as much as dick it's pussy:D

raffiki
11-22-04, 10:34 PM
For those people interested in volume, an oval shape will have less cross-sectional area than a circle given the same circumference (girth). So by increasing width you will not be achieving the same volume for a given girth measurement.

Of course the difference isn't all that much. :s