HELP! hurt my penis jelqing what can i do?

[hope]

ok here is my situation

just turned 31 years old, in otherwise excellent health

a few months ago, in May of 2004, i decided to try a dry jelqing session in my bathtub

my penis was large, goodlooking and healthy but i just wanted to make a good thing better

so i did one session for about 10 minutes in the bath - grasping the base of the shaft between index finger and thumb, and strecthing upwards to underneath the glans while it was soft / tumescent. it was never erect

so the whole shaft was being stretched

anyway about 2 weeks later i noticed to my horror that my penis had changed

it now looked very turtled and wrinkly as though it had shrunk a bit under the skin

it hung loose and limp with no bend in it, and the glan was smaller than normal

now it was difficult to get erect, and the erection was smaller and skinnier than before, especially the upper shaft and glans

and it could lose blood easily in a way it didnt before, becoming skinny fast

it seems to have lost it's throb and the blood does not fillll it up to the tip like it used to, even though it is still a good sized erection

in August i actually developed pain in the area under the glans, and then the uppershaft and glans developed a slight turn to the left where the pain was

i have been takin vitamin e for that

i still get some irritation and pain, especially when i try to make my erection throb or after i have a strong ejaculation

i take Cialis, which helps a bit, but even then i can be very slow to get hard when my girl touches me

so ya all these months later and not much ahs changed, though i have good days and bad days

i have been to the best urologists in the city and they could not tell me what i had done

they just gave me common sense advice of "if you hurt it, you just have to wait and see"

but what did i do?????

when i googled jelqing injury i found that actionlove site - regardless of the site itself, i saw a lot of people writing in with similar or identical injuries from jelqing

so i need to know

what do you guys think i did to the penis?

has anyone been through what i going through, did you get better, and how long did it take?

and what can i do to help myself heal??

i am at the end of my rope and i am very depressed about what i have done

any advice is badly needed

thanks

[against_odds21]

I think you can start by making actual paragraphs.

Just sounds to me like you have been doing too much jelqing to early and your penis wasn't ready for it. Lay off your PE and give it a little while, if you ask me.

[esteban]

Yes, try not to do ANYTHING with it for a little while, besides piss of course. Do some hot wraps for about 10 minutes or so whenever you get time, maybe 1-2 times a day if you can. Not too hot, just get more circulation going.

[hope]

Yes, try not to do ANYTHING with it for a little while, besides piss of course. Do some hot wraps for about 10 minutes or so whenever you get time, maybe 1-2 times a day if you can. Not too hot, just get more circulation going.

well i have been having sex abut once a week (all that is permitted with me and my girl's schedule). and of course i sometimes masturbate. but thanks for the feedback but i still want to hear more. i cant be the only one this has happened to so i would love to hear from somone who has been through this too and hear what the outcome was like

what i am really worried about is that this is permanent. if it is then i am truly the biggest fool on the planet because this has been a nightmare
btw - i only did penis enlargement exercises that one and only time so that is it it was a one-time thing

H

[stillwantmore]

I'm sorry, I'm just not buying this story. This sounds like something that was copied off one of those "medical" sites/forums ....a concocted horror story of sorts to scare off guys from doing PE.

I've done crazy things to my penis over the last 5 yearsish ....hung as much as 30lbs in weight from it for 15 minutes at a time and never once had a bad thing happen to it. I've always used common sense though.

There is NO way that this one guy could have jelqed ONE time for 10 minutes....not even erect as he says, and suffered some injury that is now causing him erection issues.

[penguinsfan]

Good call, SWM.

[stillwantmore]

Ok, so lets give this guy the benefit of the doubt as they say. Maybe he really did injure his penis somehow. ?:(

[hope]

thanks for posting my thread SWM

let me make something clear. i am in no way attacking jelqing or penis enlargemnet exercises. they seem to have hlped a lot of people and it was the positive feedback that persuaded me to try in the first place. this is not an attack. thi is just one man who is having problems so i thought i could find some advice and support here because we are all here to improve our penis. so please believe me when i say that. i support PE but in my case i need your help. so to anyone who thinks this is concocted, I swear on my mother's life this is real. i am just desperate for help and have been very depressed since this thing happened. the lack of closure is killing me.

I am in a weird position here. i went to see a man who is one of the best Urologists in the city back in June 2004 and he was such an asshole. he examined me for literally 5 seconds and decided there was nothing wrong with me, and refused to acknowledge that i had done anything to myself. He just gave me some Cialis samples and sent me on my way within 2 or 3 minutes of getting there. he was treating me like i was having performance anxiety. i have had that before when i was young and inexperienced and believe me this is something physical. performance anxiety does not explain the limpness and turtling and the pain and the slight curve i developed. (and no it's not Peyronies thank God - i have had 2 other Urolgists confirm that)

i feel like maybe my penis was just not designed for doing what i did to it because other people seem to have done so much more without adverse effects. all i know is that it was very healthy before this. about a month before this a girl described it as "the nicest she'd ever seen". Now it seems like the tissue has some kind of general inflammation. it still gets erect but it is not as strong, the glans doesnt get quite as big and there is now a very slight curve to the left.

the most striking thing is how it feels when it is soft. it use to have a real "pulse" and twang to it. even when i was walking around it would often be semi chubby which was nice. and the glans would be ncie and fat even when taking a pee or whatever. now the glans is much smaller when not erect and the flaccid penis feels very "mushy" . hard to explain but believe me it makes me very sad and wondering if it will ever change. ok that is all for now but if anyone out there has experienced these symptoms or knows someone who has please let me know if you think it will improve. i will try hot wraps.

thanks again

Hope

[joe_bloggs808]

Maybe you should try a light wet jelqing regime. Wet jelqing is easier on the penis than the dry version. I know you said that's what has caused your problem in the first place, but maybe with continued use it will restore your manhood to its prior glory? Just be really sure to do good long warm ups and downs. Also massage the area where the bend is and where there's pain, this will help even out the tissue and also make you aware of any internal problems such as tears or lumps.

Good luck with it mate.

[jackleg]

my injury caused me lots of anxiety, and i was starting to believe that i had permanently injured myself. now i am 100%. after two months of worrying, (my doctor told me he saw nothing wrong?), i decided to get on with my life and realized that i had indeed hurt myself and it would never go away. you know, just live with it. amazingly, a week or so later, my injury had completely healed!! dont fret, if it is not so evident that your doc. did not seem concerned, then i believe that you will be o.k.!

[penguinsfan]

First, I think you should get checked out by another doctor. Get a second opinion, as your dick is too important to ignore if you think there is a problem. Explain exactly what you did and the whole nine yards. Unless he is pretty open-minded, he'll likely explain to you that the only real PE is surgery and that you're wasting your time with exercises. He may is say it's dangerous and will lead to impotence. Whatever. Look at how many guys it's helped here. Just make sure you're cleared and recovered before you proceed with anything else.

Second, definitely try wet jelqs first. I have PEed for some time now and I can tell you that I still find dry jelqs uncomfortable and I really don't do them, to be honest.

[hope]

my injury caused me lots of anxiety, and i was starting to believe that i had permanently injured myself. now i am 100%. after two months of worrying, (my doctor told me he saw nothing wrong?), i decided to get on with my life and realized that i had indeed hurt myself and it would never go away. you know, just live with it. amazingly, a week or so later, my injury had completely healed!! dont fret, if it is not so evident that your doc. did not seem concerned, then i believe that you will be o.k.!

thanks everybody for the feedback

ya I guess all I can do is keep on going. If it was a week ago I would be optimistic. but I did this in the first week of May so I am very concerned as to whether it is permanent or not. i just want to find out if there is something i could be doing now that might improve things.

it seems like the upper part of the shaft and the glans have been somehow traumatized because the "throb" doesnt seem to extend to the tip the way it used to. example - when i pee i cant "flex" my glans and control the flow like i could before. this must sound stupid, I know, but i am just trying to get to the heart of what might be wrong inside. it's not a torn vein, because i went to another Urologist and he told me that only one vein serves the glans. maybe I tore nerves in the upper end of the shaft?? damn i just dont know. and the whole penis when soft has thse folds and wrinkles that werent there before. as though it has lost its tone. I have been to see 4 urologists and none of them were able to tell me what i might have done. they just said -if you've hurt it, only time will tell. and these guys arent sex therapists so they dont think it's a big deal if my penis isnt as fat or strong as it used to be. but to me that seems like a very very big deal.

anyway thanks again for the feedback and please if anyone has any clue as to what i might have done please let me know because this problem has got me sleepless.

cheers

Hope

[hope]

hmmm

i got a disturbing PM from someone who feels they injured themselves ina similar way

this person says it's been over 2 years and little improvement.
they also feel the damage is related to detroyed erectile tissue. does anyone know if thius ever grows back? or is it like nerves where the damge is permanent? I am afraid that former spongy tissue all over the penis has been turned into collagen scar. blah I am scared. i guess I will try another Urologist but i cant imainge they will tell me anything the last 3 or 4 werent able to

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[Egghed]

thats soooo fked...i read that story like 3 times and its hard for me to peice together. Honestly i wouldnt be surprised if 60-80%+ of this was in your head. I dont understand how your glads etc could shrink from jelqing. All that extra skin and what not should not have disappeared. That 10 min session has you messed up for 2 months so far!? and that curve thing :( sooo hard to piece together. Could his penis have been soooo newbie that he got a curve from one jelqing session already? thats unbelieveable. Im still confused (>_<; ) sorry i couldnt have been much help cuz i know you can be pretty stressed over something like this.

[hope]

^^^^

believe me it's my own private nightmare

*i still get erections and can have sex but the erection is smaller than before and erect or soft it leans and curves slightly to the left
*when i ejaculate it sometimes tingles and hurts a little in the area under the glans - after ejaculation i get these faint red spots on the glans which i never ever ever got before
*the whole flaccid penis hangs straight down with no bend in it, and the skin is loose and the penis feels mushy like it has lost muscle inside
*it looks tenderized and weak

it's a nightmare .. my penis used to rock. all girls i was with complimented me on it's size and how nice they thought it looked. it looked great erect or soft - no wrinkles - and i could get hard again and agian after ejaculating. I dont know why i messed with it. vanity i guess. i had no idea this would be a life-changing event but now it is like before and after. my happiness ended in May 2004. now i am thinking about suicide a lot. that may sound extreme but this has been a very cruel turn of events and I dont see any happy endings here. the only thing i can compare it to is if a woman with very nice breasts did some exercise to make them perkier and wound up making them permanently shrivelled and saggy and sore. i aint a happy man

thanks for reading and if anyone does have some miracle success story or Chinese herbal miracle cure i would love to hear it. otherwise I think i am permanently fucked

Hope

[doublelongdaddy]

The mind is a very powerful tool in life. In PE this same powerful tool can work against you or for you. It sounds like it is working against you here. In the starting stages of PE some men report similar problems as you have described. I am one of those people:) I remember being about 2 months along (this only happened for one day but I am sure you will see the psychological implications) when I noticed my penis was unusually flaccid, soft, retracted and lifeless in a sense. It felt and looked alien and I was scared out of my mind. I went to JEN, my girlfriend with my problem and boy was this psychosomatic fun catchy! We started talking about what could have happened and PE quickly became the culprit. I must have spend 5 hours in the bathroom that night looking at my increasingly alien penis. Feeling it, rubbing it, hoping it, wishing it all to no avail. The next day when I woke up I had a HUGE psychological decision to make. 1.) Blame PE and become reserved to the fact I have fucked my penis up or 2.) Take a roll with the dice and realize I am an extremely obsessive person and this was all in my head. THANK GOD I went with number 2. It was around this time (maybe a few months after) that I started frequenting the forums and I had done quite a bit of my own research on the penis, enlargement, impotence, physical and psychological implications of each subject. This is probably the time in my life where "THE MIND is VERY POWERFUL" meant more to me than any other time. I realized that I not only could bring harm to myself but positive change using my mind. The steps leading up to this event have been a large part of my program, site and life for that matter. I control my destiny, my goals, gains, sexuality all become part of this positive loop.

The actual action of jelqing, looked at objectively, is a variation of masturbation. Men have injured themselves through masturbation but it is not only rare but extremely difficult to do. Jelqing, in fact, will increase the quality and quantity of your erections. Unless you have a physical problem with impotence or experienced major trauma through sex, exercise or masturbation, this is all in you mind and it will get better. To speed this process cognitive steps can be taken...for starters, take this post to heart. You may want to spend some time in the MENTAL PENIS ENLARGEMENT forum, there are allot of good threads there that will help you come out of this stronger (and longer:))

[hope]

^^^

thanks for the kind words

i try to tell myself that with mind over matter maybe I can reverse the damage but believe me, something physical has happened. i feel like I am trying to be optimistic about having cancer. sure i can try and be upbeat but realistically i think i fucked my penis up.

It's really hard to believe, and some of you also find it hard to believe. that a penis could change from just a one time only jelqing session. I had forgotten all about my little jelq experiment until 2 weeks later when i realized that it had atrophied. that scares me too. it didnt happen right away. and i was totally happy with my penis until i realized that it had become all weak and wrinkled and turtled.

don't get me wrong I have my good days where it seems somewhat ok.. and when i am feeling good and it is semi chubby it looks much nicer then when it is limp turtle mode. but when I look down and see it all limp and skinny and the glans is as small as the shaft (it used to be like a nice fat mushroom cap even when not erect) it kills me. God help me it even smells differently now and it used to smell fine.

i am just dying to know if one day it will return to it's former glory. because it was so nice before. i was actually quite vain about it. girls' were always vbeing like "wow i lucked out with you!" also i am in the entertainment biz and was becoming known as quite a ladie's man. now i hate to say but i have stayed with this same girl partly because my confidence took such a beating and she was so kind to me through it all. she is wonderful about it. she says she is fine with it so i should be too. but as a man i feel so diminished

blah. i am rambling but the point is as much as i want to be positive about it after 8 1/2 months i still really see not much improvement. it is freaking me out. and i cannot fathom why my glans is not as full. very disturbing. i would feel a bit better if somebody could tell me why then at least i would have some closure because i cn plainly see it physcially changed from whatever i did to it.
i know sayin i think about suicide seems like i am drama queen, but my sex life was one of the few areas in my life where i was happy and now i am facing harsh realities that might be forever.

peace

[esteban]

Over the last few weeks I've had troubles maintaining an erection. I can get erect, but only stay that way for a few minutes maybe, then it goes away. I also noticed I have trouble focusing when erect sometimes, and when I realize the erection is subsiding, I try to get it back, but many times it doesn't happen.

I think I've traced it down to the mental aspect. After my g/f and I broke up I had troubles staying erect. For whatever reason this is, I know its something mental. I was wondering if it was from PE, but I've gained, and sometimes my erections with my ex were so hard I thought my veins would burst...and this was well after I had done a few months of PE. So don't underestimate the mental aspect, like DLD said. When you get erect, you're probably getting also very 'psycho' about your penis. Always monitoring it, wondering if its the right size, wondering if and when the erection will go away. This type of thought is precisely what will make it all go wrong.

The next time you are erect, and having sex or whatever, just try telling yourself everything is fine. Make yourself relax, and KNOW that this is all in your head. And when you get paranoid...I don't care if you get soft or what, just keep telling yourself its mental and that you're fine. Do this again and again if it doesn't work the first few times. What have you got to lose? I think once you handle the mental side of this problem, the physical side will be easier to tackle...if there even is one. Give it a try.

[hope]

^^^

thanks again for the kind words. you're right. the mental aspect does come into play. sometimes now when my girl is lying with me and touching me i am so in mourning for my old penis that getting hard is pertty much impossible. the way my penis is now i feel really unsexy - even though i'm sure a lot of guys would be happy to have it - it is very slow to arouse.

it used to be worse though. even when my girl tried to get me going with oral it stayed totally limp. !!! - that was back when it first started. and ya i have had performance anxiety before when i was younger and it was upsetting. that only happened with one girl, one time though. this is different. even with Cialis it can be slow to arouse. though it does get hard if i see a cute girl or if i am flirting with some honey on instant messenger. but the erections are different and that is what scares me. they have improved i think but since that jelq experiment they are skinnier shorter versions of what they were and not as strong. very difficult to describe but since it is my penis i can see and feel exactly what has me worried. the worst part is how the pulse doesnt make the upper part and glans throb. what could i have done? if it was mere performance anxiety and mental i dont see how that could affect blood circulation to the upper region and glans. so ya the worrying is definitely bad and is lethal to getting hard. but believe me soft or hard i sure did something that day and i just hope that there is a way to fix it. .. that is what i try to stay postivie about .. that there is something that i can learn that might undo tissue damage and help it heal. can anyone recommend any tips, or good penis doctor or alt. medicine anywhere in the world?

thanks

[REDZULU2003]

I do belive you have somesort of injury to the penis, but from what you have told me I reckon most is in your head...and is a PSYCHOLOGICAL issue.

[hope]

I do belive you have somesort of injury to the penis, but from what you have told me I reckon most is in your head...and is a PSYCHOLOGICAL issue.

I wish that it was so.

within two weeks of the one-time jelq session i had sex and felt pain right under the glans .. i thought it was because my girl wasnt wet enough when i went inside, i put some lube on and didnt really think about it. then a couple days later i suddenly realized how fucked up my penis looked like when i went to take a leak. it was alll wrinkled and creased (i am aware of course that SOME people's penises look like that already - but mine most definitely did not) and hanging skinnier and longer and limp. and then like i said the erection was visibly different in ways i dont think the mind could control - the glans was smaller and filled up to a different shape soft and hard. then in August it actually started hurting when i had sex. within 48 hours of me really noticing pain, the glans, to this day, has sunk in a little bit down and to the left. even my girl could notcie that.. she started laughing because she thought my mind was doing it but we all know Peyronies is no joke. a curve or bend is a natural response to inflammation or injury, thank god urologists said it probably was not going to turn into a plaque. i still feel pains though, both in that region under the glans, in my balls and even in my lower abdomen - what the hell from who the fuckl knows but it all started with this problem. now the erection tends to taper in a bit towards the tip and before it was just as fat all the way to the top with a mushroom cap. and when soft it just feels mushy. the guy who messaged me seemed to understand my condition .. it is hard to describe otherwsie. seems like th epnis feels "tenderized" and all the tone and elasticity has been altered.

blah. i could go on but these details arent very interesting to anyone but me. i am just trying to describe the physical symptoms fully to show that this is not something i am imagining or exagerrating. sure I am depressed as hell about it for sure, but there are times when i have been horny as hell, on Cialis and talking to some cutie that i want to bang.. not feelin bad or stressed at all and I can still feel the erection is just not as big so the question is then what the hell did i do and what does the future hold.

thanks again for reading

hope

[REDZULU2003]

Than I urge you - goto a UROLOGIST.

[hope]

well i did

in June of 2004, a few weeks after the jeq session i went to see a doctor wh had the rep of being the best in the city. he was extremely short with me and barely even looked at my penis. i told him about the wrinkles and folds and how it had turtled and he looked at it for 5 seconds, felt it, and said "looks fine to me". but of course he had no idea what it looked like before which was quite different so that opinion is meaningless. he threw some cialis at me and sent me on my way within 4 or 5 minutes. i came back for folllow up even more worried 2 months later and he actually got a little rude with me saying it was impossible to have hurt my penis from what i told him. he was a real asshole and showed no empathy for my worries. not to mentiona couple weeks later i actually developed a slight bend . anyway after that i went to see another urologist who was kind but couldnt really give me any more insight except to say i probably did not have peyronies. finally i paid all this cash - 330.00 canadian to go to some sexual dysfunction clinic but after payng all that money they werent able to give me any insgiht into how the inner tissue might have reacted to what i did.

so long story short i am no wiser after having been examined by 3 Urologists and posting on several forums

[jakb]

Get an MRI. This should tell you if you have done anything physical or you are emotionally doing it.

[hope]

ya? can you get an MRI for your penis? i wonder what they could see with that. i think that is a good idea but that first idiot i went to see said there are no tests that could be done to determine damage and if i have damaged myself there's nothing to be done except send me to see a sex counsellor. even if he was truthful he was still a prick

[ElGeorgio]

Hi Hope, you may have caused yourself some trauma to your gland. Try this when you look down at your dick do you see the tip of your dick has a slight bend to the right or the left?

If your tip bends to the right you may anti gravairitus, the cure is not to pull your PUD for about three weeks, and what ever you do, do not have sex with a bald woman.

If the tip of your cock bends to the left, you have probably developed the Chinese cock bendus, which can if not treated correctly may cause your balls to swell and actually create stepatropical anzoritus.

The best way to treat this condition is to pull your PUD every 2 hours, and make sure you have sex with a bald woman at least three times a week.

Of course if your cock does not bend to the right or the left, but hangs like a dead jelly fish and the gland is slightly red on one side and blue on the other, then I'm afraid you are in trouble. You have created arthriticumitas, which in laymans terms means your cock is ready to drop off. So if this is the case, wrap your cock in a hot blanket and hope for the best. Do not have a wank, as pulling your PUD may cause it to pull away from the socket, if this happens you must get some wood glue and try to stick it on again.

Never get a big erection when jelqing especially if you have arthriticumitas or your balls will shrivel up like small acorns.

[hope]

hehe

what the fuck is your problem, bitch?

you actually took all that time to type that nonsense just to make fun of me?

you think i would be wasting my time on here, like you, just for shits and giggles?

get a life dude

thanks everyone else for the feedback.

Hope

[penguinsfan]

Hope, I would keep trying a few more urologists. See if any of them are willing to do that MRI that jakb mentioned, or if they know of another test that might yield answers. As for the doctor saying your injuring by jelqing is impossible, my guess would be that something else damaged your ding-a-ling and the jelqing brought that out. I have a similar situation in that some bodyweight squats brought out permanent cartilege damage in my knees, but I only did 100 to 150 per day for less than two weeks. Obviously, it was not the squats that actually caused the damage, but years of doing door to door work and walking up thousands of steps haphazardly and out of shape.

As for ElGeorgio, click on his profile and read some of his previous posts. You'll understand and you might even get a laugh.

[hope]

Hope, I would keep trying a few more urologists. See if any of them are willing to do that MRI that jakb mentioned, or if they know of another test that might yield answers. As for the doctor saying your injuring by jelqing is impossible, my guess would be that something else damaged your ding-a-ling and the jelqing brought that out.

ya i will see about an MRI. hmm ya i dunno my penis was great looking and feeling until a week after this exercise that i did and other people have received identical injuries from it so i am guessing it was the stretching that set things in motion

actually he didnt say "it's impossible to hurt myself from the jelqing" he had never even heard of jelqing. he just decided that it was all in my head and stubbornly refused to see it any other way. it's frustrating to have my problem thought of as psychosomatic when clearly my penis has sustained some kind of mass inflammation of internal tissue. that proved itself when the glans sunk a little to the left on the shaft where i was having pain and tends to turn that direction now when hard.

anyway thanks again for the feedback, as for that joker who, posted. i dont know .. I am really really stressed out and so unhappy about this so i dont see much humour in my plight .. i'm feeling really blue

.

[ElGeorgio]

hehe

what the fuck is your problem, bitch?

you actually took all that time to type that nonsense just to make fun of me?

you think i would be wasting my time on here, like you, just for shits and giggles?

get a life dude

thanks everyone else for the feedback.

Hope


Hey Hope you silly bitch, I thought you where joking, as I am sure other's thought the same. Lets face your post does look like a big fucking joke. Read it for self, and see if you can believe what you wrote and the way it's written, It does look like a joke.

So you silly Bitch, I wrote a joke back Mate:


"just turned 31 years old, in otherwise excellent health

a few months ago, in May of 2004, i decided to try a dry jelqing session in my bathtub

my penis was large, goodlooking and healthy but i just wanted to make a good thing better

so i did one session for about 10 minutes in the bath - grasping the base of the shaft between index finger and thumb, and strecthing upwards to underneath the glans while it was soft / tumescent. it was never erect

so the whole shaft was being stretched

anyway about 2 weeks later i noticed to my horror that my penis had changed

it now looked very turtled and wrinkly as though it had shrunk a bit under the skin

it hung loose and limp with no bend in it, and the glan was smaller than normal

now it was difficult to get erect, and the erection was smaller and skinnier than before, especially the upper shaft and glans

and it could lose blood easily in a way it didnt before, becoming skinny fast

it seems to have lost it's throb and the blood does not fillll it up to the tip like it used to, even though it is still a good sized erection

in August i actually developed pain in the area under the glans, and then the uppershaft and glans developed a slight turn to the left where the pain was

i have been takin vitamin e for that

i still get some irritation and pain, especially when i try to make my erection throb or after i have a strong ejaculation

i take Cialis, which helps a bit, but even then i can be very slow to get hard when my girl touches me

so ya all these months later and not much ahs changed, though i have good days and bad days

i have been to the best urologists in the city and they could not tell me what i had done

they just gave me common sense advice of "if you hurt it, you just have to wait and see"

but what did i do?????"

[hope]

you know what, dude, that's great. thanks for taunting me when I made it clear I am under crazy stress with this and at the end of my rope.

that's good of you

I hurt my dick somehow from PE, I've been really stressed out about it for 8 months, no urologists can even tell me what I did or how long healing will take if at all, so I come here looking for advice.

My problems came from a PE session, so I post on a PE site injuries forum. makes sense. If i had not injured my penis I would have far better things to do than hang out on here waiting to make fun of some person who needs help. that's just me. I dont know why you would think someone posting about a dick injury in a dick injury forum is a joke but that's just me.

please dont reply back. I dont want to debate this, I just want to get advice from the others.

but thanks to everyone else who has given me some insight - it all helps

cheers

[ElGeorgio]

you know what, dude, that's great. thanks for taunting me when I made it clear I am under crazy stress with this and at the end of my rope.

that's good of you

I hurt my dick somehow from PE, I've been really stressed out about it for 8 months, no urologists can even tell me what I did or how long healing will take if at all, so I come here looking for advice.

My problems came from a PE session, so I post on a PE site injuries forum. makes sense. If i had not injured my penis I would have far better things to do than hang out on here waiting to make fun of some person who needs help. that's just me. I dont know why you would think someone posting about a dick injury in a dick injury forum is a joke but that's just me.

please dont reply back. I dont want to debate this, I just want to get advice from the others.

but thanks to everyone else who has given me some insight - it all helps

cheers


I have to reply Hope to say but I am sure sorry about your condition if you truly injured. I would like to offer my two penneth, as we say in the UK.

Firstly, may I suggest that you go and see your family doctor. Be honest with him and describe what happened and the results that you now have. Explain that you seen a Urologist but he did nothing for you. Ask him to set you an appointment with a good Urologist who he would send his own son to. Then go a see this new Doctor and tell him of the problems. If after he has examined you and he cannot find any problems. Then Mate as Red has said" It's in your mind."

[PocketCowboys]

I have hurt my erections due to PE. I think it might of been nerve damage from stretching or somethign with erctile tissue from jeqling. I am not sure as of yet but I would be willing to work with you on this. Many people are damaged from PE. I would like to work on this with you but here are my suggestions so far.

For Harder Erections do these things
1. Take Ginsing and Yohimbine, Also take a multia Vitamin like 1 a day mens Health.
2. Buy a heating pad that doesn;t have an automatic shut off and leave it on all night.
3. Use ur heating pad to warm ur penis and massage it
4. Exercise of course(so many reasons to do this)
5. Try Levitra instead of Cialis I heard for some people it works better, also don't be afraid to try 20mg instead of 10mg.
6.I think jeqling can also cure the problem as well. If you do easy wet jeqls just for bloodflow I think this will be good but do massages for a month first
7. If you are really depressed you won't realize your penis is better when it is so maybee take an SSRI (anti-depressant) like effexor
8.Try Foreskin Resotarion

I have been going through so much hell because of a similair problem of weak erections . . I can still have sex but I know they are weaker and its because of PE. The urologists are unhelpful I think I am going to demand an MRI though that might be useful. This is what I am doing right now and I have not PEd for like 4months and the problem persists. I have not been able to do a healthy light jeql routine for blood flow because of a broken hand . .. but i think this will help the problem as long as u don't try to jelq to make ur penis bigger that just damages it.

If anyone else has lower erections because of PE let me know lets work on this together we have to find a solution . . there are tons and tons of people who are suffering from this but just do not post.

[FAUSTO]

Im so sorry to hear about your injury, I can guess you are mad about the whole thing, I hope that you will get better soon :)

[hope]

^^^

thanks for the input Pocket Cowboy

I was taking Ginseng and Ginko Blioba and Vitamins until around September everyday. I take Cialis very sporadically because it is so expensive. and I did go to see a shrink to discuss anti depressants but upon researching I found that a common side effect is sexual dysfunction so that seemed a bit counter-productive... hehe

yeah I really don't know what I did. there seems to be some kind of atrophy in the flaccid penis. that would maybe explain the new wrinkles and folds in the skin if the inner tissue has turtled a little. I really have no ideas these are all just shots in the dark. I had hoped that a urologist would understand exactly what was going on but it seems like they know as much as I do. they are not sex therapists though so i guess they look at it like .. "if it's working and isnt falling off you are fine."

I just dont know what could make it hang skinnier and a bit longer when it is fully flaccid... could I have literally stretched it that one time? i would never have thought that would be possible. it just seemed like really experimental masturbation and there was no pain. anyway that is where I am at. maybe like the one guy said i had something else about to go wrong naturally and this just sped up a natural process. I notice too that if I have a couple ejaculations that I still get a kind of very mildly painful tingling in the glans area. does this mean torn vessels??? I really have no idea. and I dont know if I shold be abstaining from sex or if some good relaxing sex might help it somehow.

anyway I must sound Like a broken record but this is where I find myself now. a healthy penis is becoming a distant memory for me.

and thanks for the kind words, Fausto. yeah you can tell I am mad about it, for sure. It's humiliating to have to come on public forums asking for help with my dick. it's kind of surreal actually. but you people have been cool about it. thanks again and if anyone has any advice for treatment feel free to post here or PM me.

cheers

[tbirdy]

investigate your veins. Are they now exactly like before the injury ?

[hope]

well I have an appointment for this Urologist i have seen before on Thursday

my problems are like this:

I think i have damaged inner tissue in the frenulum area under the glans - the upper shaft doesnt throb the way it used to, resulting in a smaller weaker erection - i can still see a slight sinking down on the left side in that area as though the erectile tissue isnt straightening out the tip like it should

i have had pains there before - sometimes just irritation and sometimes small localized more intense pain

and when limp same thing, the upper shaft and gland isnt as plump but tends to be a bit smaller and limp

it doesnt get chubby when limp the way it used to - weither i am getting an erection or it stays limp - it used to hang a little bit fat and doesnt do that anymore really

when ejaculate, especially if i do that more than once or twice, i get red spots on the glans which i never did before

and Gold help me, I hate to say, but say I have a shower and go about my business - by later on that night day it actually doesnt smell very good - especially if i have maturbated .. and this never happened before and it's an odour i have never ever smelt before .. it used to be totally fine and i have never had a problem with hygiene it seems like my penis has really changed and maybe things are going on with chemicals and hormones inside of it and secreting something that might explain this

that's it .. this is my sorry situation

cheers

[Jareth]

Sometiems i notice my dick being weak what helped me alout was doing kegels. If anybody is having problems getting a really hard bonner try these they should help. As far as your injury goes iam sorry, i worry too about getting injured.

[hope]

^^

ya i will try kegels

I have an appt. with a uroligst on the 7th of March - i really hope i can learn more than what little they have told me - which is basically - "

maybe i have hurt it, and time will tell - and if my erection is smaller and weaker, just learn to live with that"

sorry but if that's all i can find out i am going crazy not knowing.

definitely damage to the tissue in the region beneath the glans. I took 2 cialis at one time instead last weekend. I noticed for the first time in ages my erection was as hard and almost as big as it used to be. although there is still a slight slight lean of the glans towards the area that got damaged. so what does this mean? it obviously can get hard with enuff drugs. what are the drugs doing? does this mean the damage is blood vessels, or maybe now there is some shortage of a chemical that the cialis helps with? it was encouraging to see that. but at the same time after i ejacualated i could clearly see red lines and spots on the frenulum under the glans which must indicate bleeding inside the penis... in an almost straight line going on either side on the frenulum.. it looks like a line of tearing or something where some of the damage was done - how long does it take i wonder for that to heal?

scary stuff

[3d2005]

Would you be willing to prrovide pictures or documents to reinforce these statements? Give us the benefit of the doubt that we believe sincerely with all of our hearts that one 10-minute jelqing session in May of 2004 could not possibly continue to plague you into late Feb. of 2005. I have reviewed and re-reviewed this thread and have come to the conclusion that it, in its entirety, is more akin to swiss cheese than what it purports to be.

If, in fact, your penis has been damaged, I am truly sorry, and I'm hoping that your serial visits to the "best urologists" will uncover the true nature of this condition. However, I think it is premature at this point to assign your plight merely to a 10-minute jelqing session in May of 2004.

Do us a favor and do not report back until you receive a diagnosis from a certified urologist that is conclusive. It would help if you even included some documentation of the visit, perhaps even some documentation of the diagnosis, name of the doctor, etc.

You have a responsibility at this point to justify your claims. Not because they are wholly without merit, which at this point they appear to be, but because you have provided at the very best ambiguous details for more than half a year, garnered sympathy for these claims from nearly every good-hearted individual on this forum, scared the shit out of everyone who believes in PE, yet have refused to provide any credible evidence whatsoever to support these ostensibly outrageous claims.

[Jareth]

Would you be willing to prrovide pictures or documents to reinforce these statements? Give us the benefit of the doubt that we believe sincerely with all of our hearts that one 10-minute jelqing session in May of 2004 could not possibly continue to plague you into late Feb. of 2005. I have reviewed and re-reviewed this thread and have come to the conclusion that it, in its entirety, is more akin to swiss cheese than what it purports to be.

If, in fact, your penis has been damaged, I am truly sorry, and I'm hoping that your serial visits to the "best urologists" will uncover the true nature of this condition. However, I think it is premature at this point to assign your plight merely to a 10-minute jelqing session in May of 2004.

Do us a favor and do not report back until you receive a diagnosis from a certified urologist that is conclusive. It would help if you even included some documentation of the visit, perhaps even some documentation of the diagnosis, name of the doctor, etc.

You have a responsibility at this point to justify your claims. Not because they are wholly without merit, which at this point they appear to be, but because you have provided at the very best ambiguous details for more than half a year, garnered sympathy for these claims from nearly every good-hearted individual on this forum, scared the shit out of everyone who believes in PE, yet have refused to provide any credible evidence whatsoever to support these ostensibly outrageous claims.
dude seriously why are u on this dudes case. Why and what would be the point of him coming on here and bullshiting to all of us about some injury that isn't even effecting you. This site is for help and if this guys wants to reply 1000 times about this injury that i really do belive he has than so be it. I will be the first to say i will support this guy and give him help the best i can as well should you. Not come out and beat the guy up for worrying about his main unit obviously he is having some problems and has said he has been to a doctor and he didn't help him. I hav had an issue that i have been worrying about for a while couldn't get help from a doctor so i came here and have posted about lower abdomen pain more than once u gonna tell me iam lying and don't have pain there. Give the guy a break he's worried, probly having anxiety, stress and just plain out pissed off about why his dick isn't workin right. And i don't blame him b.c i have been in his situation more than once worrying about peing, my dick and just other things in general. Some people have a hard time healing from some injuries. I don't think he goes on here and bitches for simpathy he's looking for reasurance as well would you if you had a problem. Help the guy don't tell him basically he is a lyier, and doesn't hav an injury. He hasn't made anybody worried about PE if something feels unnormal than the program should be stopped or whatever and thats common sense. I have heard alout of other people stating they have worse injuries and people still pe. Iam not gonna stop just b/c this guy hurt his dick jelging but thats just me.

[hope]

Would you be willing to prrovide pictures or documents to reinforce these statements? Give us the benefit of the doubt that we believe sincerely with all of our hearts that one 10-minute jelqing session in May of 2004 could not possibly continue to plague you into late Feb. of 2005. I have reviewed and re-reviewed this thread and have come to the conclusion that it, in its entirety, is more akin to swiss cheese than what it purports to be.

I dont know what to tell you. You honestly think this is made up? how fucked up would I have to be to make this up and keep coming back and posting in this thread?


If, in fact, your penis has been damaged, I am truly sorry, and I'm hoping that your serial visits to the "best urologists" will uncover the true nature of this condition. However, I think it is premature at this point to assign your plight merely to a 10-minute jelqing session in May of 2004.

once again why would I lie or exaggerate? what am I an idiot? why would i waste time going to unqualified doctors with such a serious problem? I got referred to a doctor who is regarded as the best in his field in that city and has been a Urologist for 25 years. he turned out to be an insensitive asshole as far as helping me goes, and in fact I was warned that he has avery abrupt way of dealing with patients. He barely examined me and rushed to the conclusion that it was psychosomatic. The others are all competent enough but none of them was able to tell me what I had done. From the 4 doctors I have seen I dont think many Urologists have even heard of jelqing let alone injuries associated with it. They were however helpful in telling me that I dont have Peyronies.

It is possible, as other people have suggested, that maybe I already was developing some unexplained erectile dysfunction or bad circulation, etc and this just combined with it to give me the problems I now have. i'm not saying that is what it is, but sure, maybe there is something else occuring naturally that the bad jelqing amplified. I did notice my erections were not as rock hard as they were when i 20, but that was the extent of it. me and a couple billion other guys. but honestly my dick was fine. girls loved it, I loved it.


Do us a favor and do not report back until you receive a diagnosis from a certified urologist that is conclusive. It would help if you even included some documentation of the visit, perhaps even some documentation of the diagnosis, name of the doctor, etc.

do me a favour and stop riding me. can you read? i explained that I have been to 4 Urologists and they were only able to give me common sense "if it's hurt, give it time and wait and see" advice - that anybody could have told me. there is no conclusive diagnosis. They dont know - as surprising as that is, they could not tell or would not speculate as to what might have gone wrong inside my penis. that's why I am posting here

I would gladly share whatever diagnosis is made, but not the names of the doctor. This is a very embarrassing and frightening situation for me and I want anonymity. can you understand that?


You have a responsibility at this point to justify your claims. Not because they are wholly without merit, which at this point they appear to be, but because you have provided at the very best ambiguous details for more than half a year

what the hell? you see how much I typed in those posts? I wrote little essays trying to describe what is wrong. How much more detail do you need?


, garnered sympathy for these claims from nearly every good-hearted individual on this forum,

you think I am doing this for sympathy?? I could give a fuck about sympathy. Sympathy wont make my dick get better. I posted here to get advice from anyone who might have been down the same road. I need to know from people if this is something permanent or if there is hope. that's why I post. I'm not looking for attention. I'm just worried and depressed as hell about my dick and dont know where else to turn for advice.


scared the shit out of everyone who believes in PE,

well I am not trying to scare anyone, but if you go to this site you will a whole bunch of people who have written in letters to this guy looking for help. Many of them are young guys in their teens still. they hurt their dick by doing PE exercises. i'm not sayng PE is bad, but it is a fact that that is how they got in this situation. guys, like me, whose dicks were fine before they did this to themselves. here read some of them. they describe many of the same symptoms that I have. and in some cases identical - all from jelqing. I suppose we all collaborated and made this up??

please read - http://www.actionlove.com/extra/penilex.htm

I dont support the guy's site - he could be a total quack - but the case studies of guys who write him emails about impotence and injury are the exact same problem as I am having and believe me it's very real.



yet have refused to provide any credible evidence whatsoever to support these ostensibly outrageous claims.

I dont know what to tell you. I had no idea that experimenting with dry jelqs in the bath would fuck my dick up. I wouldnt be posting here if i didnt really have a problem related to PE. but it's a fact - my dick was more than fine. it looked great soft or hard, it was often slightly chubby even when walking around, and could get fully hard at the drop of a hat, and get nice and hard again shortly after ejacualting so i would have multiple rounds of sex. that all changed within a week of the dry jelq session. if my story seems outrageous so be it, but I'm not the only one. I ask anyone, again, to click that actionlove link and read all the stories of guys who cant get it up, or got a curve, or the tip of their dick is now nump, all from experimenting with various forms of PE. i am NOT dissing PE but for SOME people they wound up hurting themselves. They thought they were doing something harmless and now they are freaking out with a dick that doesnt look or act like it used to. sorry if that sounds outrageous.

and what evidence do you want? I would gladly take pics and let you see for yourself but A - i dont have a digital cam. if i do get access to my parents' and someone wants to host them for me, PM me. but also even if i do take pics and show you, you have no idea what it looked like before hand, so it's hard for others to understand. also pictures dont convey the "disconnected" 'lack of pulse' feeling that often makes it so slow to. arouse.

right now it can get hard, but i had to take 2 cialis pills last night, instead of one to make it hard the way it was before this. no shit.

[penguinsfan]

OK hope, here's the deal. You're right in your anger and frustration. I do believe your situation and I don't know why that guy chose to lash out at you like that, just because he doesn't believe you. You have done a great deal of posting about this and I cannot think you're simply pulling our leg. If so, you really need to get out more often, but I don't think that's the case. I am convinced that something happened to your cock.

However, I think Dr. Lin is a nutcase. I don't doubt his sexual techniques are beneficial, but the guy is claiming that we're all scammers and he hawks supplements, which is laughable. The guys that write to him probably did damage themselves through PE, but they probably had problems to begin with. I said the same thing to you earlier. No one should damage themselves jelqing if they do it properly (which is not hard to do) and I have to believe something was wrong in your cock before you tried PE. For all the talk about PE being dangerous, there are some guys on this forum that have put their cocks through brutal torture and have huge, properly functioning dicks. But Dr. Lin is claiming that he has healed penis curvature through his supplements. Give me a break. Don't read too much into that guy's site. Do see a urologist and insist on an MRI or whatever test can be done as soon as possible. Best of luck.

[hope]

OK hope, here's the deal. You're right in your anger and frustration.

well you're right I am angry and frustrated with myself. but it's nobody's fault but mine. I just feel really foolish because my penis was perfectly adequate. It was 7" long and close to 6" in girth and looked really good too, so I am just very frustrated and very sad that I have changed that.


I do believe your situation and I don't know why that guy chose to lash out at you like that, just because he doesn't believe you.

well I shouldn't pay attention to assholes.


You have done a great deal of posting about this and I cannot think you're simply pulling our leg. If so, you really need to get out more often, but I don't think that's the case. I am convinced that something happened to your cock.


oh yeah totally. This is real all right.


However, I think Dr. Lin is a nutcase. I don't doubt his sexual techniques are beneficial, but the guy is claiming that we're all scammers and he hawks supplements, which is laughable.

yeah I don't really know much about him, although admittedly in my desperation I emailed him and asked him what he thought had happened inside my penis based on what I told him. He seemed to think it was mass tissue destruction and that the spongy tissues had been torn under the glans. Pretty common sense, really but still i dont really know what I can do to change that, now. like I said, I was and am so desperate for insight that I just wanted to hear what he had to say. i don't advocate his supplements nor do i support what he says about PE.


The guys that write to him probably did damage themselves through PE, but they probably had problems to begin with. I said the same thing to you earlier. No one should damage themselves jelqing if they do it properly (which is not hard to do) and I have to believe something was wrong in your cock before you tried PE.

hmm. well there may well be some truth to that. the whole thing that lead me on this internet quest in the first place was because I wanted to find out how to make my erections as strong as they were when I was a teenager. I noticed they werent quite as throbbing hard as when I was younger. So maybe I was developing some sort of circulatory problems. However the new problems are a totally different ball game and are definitely from my jelq experiment. there is nothing natural about what I am dealing with now. I am not warning people off of PE, I am just saying I must have done something wrong to myself and now my penis has basically been fucked ever since.


Don't read too much into that guy's site. Do see a urologist and insist on an MRI or whatever test can be done as soon as possible. Best of luck.

thanks. I do have an appointment set up with the same guy i saw last in November. I dont really know what he can do for me though. I basically feel like I might have torn erectile tissue and / or torn the tunica lining in many places and especially under the glans on the left side. I have been thinking about this and that model makes sense. In the first couple months it was "hour-glassing a little bit when it would start to get hard .. meaning i found that it looked a bit constricted in the middle of the shaft as though the lining wasnt letting it expand enough there. that has changed though it still seems like it generally is a smaller version of what it was. when a little bit chubby it hangs markedly to the left which it didnt do before, which would make sense if there was a tightening in the tunica on that side. when i took the double-dose of cialis the other day, it got pretty much the same size and hardness as before, but once I ejacualate or lose the erection, i find it becomes skinnier very quickly, as thought the blood is very quickly being forced out again. maybe the tightened tunica could explain that too I really dont know. what i am really trying to find out by posting on here is if that sort of injury can ever be recovered from or if the scarring and symptoms I have are permanent.

thx again

[tbirdy]

"He seemed to think it was mass tissue destruction and that the spongy tissues had been torn under the glans."

Hey hope I told you the same before.
Man I'm really very sorry for you but trust me its permanent.

Bad news eh? It will never change get that in your head.
You will never have your old dick back.
No doctor will be able to gve you good advice nor will he be able to cure your condition.

Want good news ? You still can have sex. Read the last sentence 3 times man. Get my drift ? You still can get it up . It needs more stimulation and the aid of viagra/cialis ? Well so be it. Fuck it. Don't let it drag you down forever.
Don't get depressed. Don't let sex pass you by.
Maybe talk to people who are completly impotent for a reality check. I know it sounds hard. Still there is no cure as of yet. I'm 100% positive that its torn erectile tissue or tunica or nerves. Its organic damage.

Want better news ? The answer is in your nickname and the future.

Docs are already harvesting erectile tissue from mice dicks, experimenting with it implanting it back and so on. Once this will be applied to humans this will be your cure. Trust me this will be big news. Until then don't allow this shit to fuck with your life.

Look don't be angry at me. You know this comes from someone who got himself into the same shit, experienced almost the same problems and 2 years laters I can live with it , I continue my PE and I'm almost there @ 8x6.

Seriously dude. DO take viagra/cialis/tribulus/nox3-or whatever arginine source your prefer/ ginko/red ginseng and don't worry any longer. DO kegels or get a tens to do the kegeling for you by electrostimulation. You won't have your old dick back but with the help of the above mentioned aids it will be as good as before. Remember any impotent man would hit you in the face for even complaining about this.

Last but not least if you continue to obsess on this I swear you will double your problems and on top of already present organic damage you WILL get psychosomatic about it too.

You MUST say adios to your old dick and realize you have a new one that needs different handling.

Wish you the best luck. This is from the heart .

[bluenun]

There is some sacry information in that link you provided
http://www.actionlove.com/extra/penilex.htm

To think you could damage your penis from 10 minutes of flaccid jelqing frightens me.
I hope I am not doing any damage from stretching.

Best wishes to you hope.

[penguinsfan]

DO kegels or get a tens to do the kegeling for you by electrostimulation.

WOW! What an idea. Where do you get one and where would you place the pads to achieve this?

[tbirdy]

I know tens machines are widely used for treating erektyle disfunction and incontinence.

I have this here to do the kegeling for me.

30 mins of this (daily basis - common sense) and my dick is steel without viagra. Only downside is you can't really move around , just sit while the pads are on. Using it before sleep is a good idea. While learning or reading or watching tv.

TENS (http://www.schniedel-hoch.com/10.htm)


Programm 1+2 are for those who want to reactivate those few but very important muscel cells in the penis. 3 is simply flexing your whole pc muscles. YOu get almost instant results from programm 3 (or sore as hell if you overdo it) and good results from 1 + 2 (if you had a problem with hardness) after 2-3 month of daily use, after that just maintainace.

Sorry that the site is in german. I think if you search around you will find similar machines/products in english. Maybe the same product too. google for tens treatment of erectyle disfunction.

The one and only downside is : The pads. Either you have to find something that will make those stick to your skin or you are rich and can afford to buy lots of new ones that are self-sticky or something like that.

Oh and to answer your question , one pad is placed on your pubic bone and one on the pc muscle. Crank up the intensity as high as you can stand and off you go.

[REDZULU2003]

Maybe this thread needs to calm alittle.
Lets start again from the beggining.

Hope whats your problem? we will try and help you and not be so critical this time.

[penguinsfan]

Know any good places to get a TENS unit?