DLD's First Routine (I gained 2 inches with this routine) Full Tutorial [Archive] - Matters of Size :: Free Penis Enlargement Forums and Exercises

doublelongdaddy

09-28-03, 11:52 AM

This is a great starting routine. So many new guys do not know where to start so I put this together for you. Please read it over and ask any quetions. For the best in video, illustrations, sound bites and flawless text descriptions all organized into a 5 Phase system check out The MoS Members Site (http://www.mattersofsize.com), for a minimal fee you will have lifetime access to the best PE site on the internet.

Good luck!

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BEGINNERS PENIS ENLARGEMENT TUTORIAL (http://mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49925)

DLD's NEWBIE ROUTINE

Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Basic Jelqing

For First 2 weeks - 300 2 Second Jelqs

after 2 weeks - 600 2 Second Jelqs

After Jelq: Warm Down

PC Muscle Fitness

100 quick Kegel squeezes

50 of the following:
Squeeze your PC muscle as hard as you can, hold for 5 seconds then slowly release for 2 seconds. When you have finished the 50 your PC muscle will be screaming. This is a good sign. Now to finish the exercise start squeezing and hold for 1 minute, if you get tired squeeze harder until the minute is complete.

Testicle Health Massage

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EXERCISES EXPLAINED

Warm-Up/Down
A very important part of your program will be the Warm-up and Warm-Down. During this process you will be preparing your penis for exercise. It is important to warm up in order to loosen the ligaments and increase good blood flow. There are many different ways to accomplish this here are a few:

Heating Pad: A conventional heating pad works very well for warm-up. You can pick one up for under $14.00 and they create the perfect heating supply for warm-up. Wrap your penis in the heating pad, plug it in, set a comfortable temperature and relax for 10-15 minutes.

Hot Wrap: A hot wrap is a quicker, less expensive way to warm-up. With a standard washcloth fill you sink or tub with hot water. Soak washcloth until hot and wrap penis. Re-soak rag as it cools. This process should be done for about 5 minutes.

Oil rub Warm-up: With some basic baby oil heat in hot water or microwave very quickly (making sure it is not burning hot) when desired heat is reached work this oil into your penis in a deep massage. This massage should last 5 minutes.

Hot Tub, Shower or Bath: A warm-up can also be done in one of the previously mentioned places. If time allows a nice 10 minute soak really loosens things up and prepares you for exercise.

Basic Stretching
After your warm-up in a seated position prepare yourself for your stretching routine. With an ample supply of Baby powder on you hands grip your penis just below the head. Go easy at first and over your first week, as you become comfortable, increase the stretching strength to 100%.

Basic Jelqing
With desired lubricant (I highly recommend Vaseline) cover hands and penis completely. At this point you will want to have about an 80% erection (semi-soft) Now in a seated position with your palm down grip your penis with the standard OK sign grip. Gripping your penis at the extreme base and a tight grip, force the blood from the very base up to right below the head in a sliding motion. When your first hand reaches the bottom of your head the second hand begins the same movement. This is a strange movement at first but over a few sessions it will become second nature. With each passing day increase the intensity ever so slightly. The goal of basic jelqing is too enlarge girth, add length and improve general penile health.

PC Muscle Fitness/Kegels
This is an important part of your workout.
This routine can be done anywhere. The benefits of doing these are a huge part of your growth process. A mature, developed PC muscle will be paramount to future gains and penile health.

What is a kegel?
A kegel is the name of a pelvic floor exercise, named after Dr. Kegel who discovered the exercise. These muscles are attached to the pelvic bone and act like a hammock, holding in your pelvic organs. To feel this muscle movement simply stop and start the flow of urine. This isolation of the PC muscle is a kegel.

Why would I want to do kegel exercises?

• Stronger Erections
• Longer Erections due to blood hold capacity
• Larger head size
• Further ejaculatory Distance
• Sexual enjoyment is enhanced for both partners
• It can prevent prolapsed of pelvic organs
• It can help prevent leaking urine when you sneeze or cough

Testicle Health
Testicle Health Stretch will help your penis to hang lower in flaccid state. It will also increase blood flow to your testicles and aid in sperm count. This routine should take no longer than 5 minutes but the benefits are many.

With favorite lotion grab your scrotum just above your testicles. Now in a rubbing motion massage each testy for 30 seconds rubbing between your fingers in a gentle but firm movement. Now massage all the fluid around your testicles for 60 seconds. At this point your scrotum should be very relaxed. Finally lightly stretch your scrotum downward while the other hand pulls your penis upward. Do 60 of these. This is a very quick routine but the benefits are great. This will also aid you in any kind of early warning signs of testicular problems.

REST DAYS
I have always trained 7 days on no days off. I think this type of schedule promotes a more habitual program. For me days off can quickly turn into weeks off so it is better for me to be a daily trainer. I also believe that the penis only needs 24 hours of recovery before it is trained again. Some guys either do not have the time for this or it may be too difficult at first. In this case I recommend deducting one day at a time until the perfect routine is created. i.e. 6 on 1 off, 5 on 2 off.

Gardenier90

09-28-03, 05:16 PM

Sounds good.

ALpHawan2getbig

09-29-03, 10:59 PM

so.. on stretchest, i stretch my maximum.. but then i will not be able to do the DLD blasters... cause i dunt feel the tug back on low lot when i stretch my maximum..

pUNKY

10-04-03, 02:23 AM

7inchers routine of PP is great too, il try and find the link.

j-penis

10-09-03, 04:41 AM

Thanks DLD! This is exactly what I needed! :)

Your fan,

j.

KT*

10-15-03, 06:20 AM

just what i needed DLD, your a true champ!

just one little question.

the standard kegel is when u clench it, like when ur trying to hold ur urine or cum in right? the reverese kegel is when ur trying to push it out? am i correct :D

and also....how import are reverese kegels...i remember RedZulu posting a how to last forever guide back on PridePenis, and he used reverse kegels as well, but they are so hard to do and they make u hold ur breath!

i'm still a n00b at this sorta NPE stuff but now that i started using these forums instead of PP i guess im in ultra good hands.

Thanks again DLD and RedZulu, ur both legends ;)

doublelongdaddy

10-17-03, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by KT*
the standard kegel is when u clench it, like when ur trying to hold ur urine or cum in right? the reverese kegel is when ur trying to push it out? am i correct :D

You are correct. A kegel is best described as the muscle movement you use to stop the flow of urine. A reverse kegel is the muscle movement you use to push the flow of urine.

Originally posted by KT*
and also....how import are reverese kegels...i remember RedZulu posting a how to last forever guide back on PridePenis, and he used reverse kegels as well, but they are so hard to do and they make u hold ur breath!

This is one of the benefits of the reverse kegel. The reverse kegel is also the backbone of the DLD Blasters.

sizematters

11-06-03, 01:46 AM

This is a great post DLD.

I'll try this routine.

I've heard so much about you and how you are an honest PEer and how you really help others.

The Oak84

12-20-03, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by ALpHawan2getbig
so.. on stretchest, i stretch my maximum.. but then i will not be able to do the DLD blasters... cause i dunt feel the tug back on low lot when i stretch my maximum..

whats DLD blasters?>

Supra

12-20-03, 08:59 PM

Wow just read, great post!

MrPoPo

12-28-03, 05:23 PM

thanks

doublelongdaddy

12-28-03, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by MrPoPo
thanks

No problem:)

MrPoPo

12-29-03, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
No problem:)

whats a pc?

another shy one

01-01-04, 07:02 PM

great idea, I just wanted to ask for how long should someone who started to PE do these exercises? I mean, how many weeks or months should there be before going to the next level?

Finally, it would be good if you described the exercises of different levels over the span of time. For example

The Newbie's Routine that you just described - X months

Level 2 - X months

Level 3 - X Months

Level 4 - X months

etc.

This would be an important guideline for those who do PE.

Thanks :)

doublelongdaddy

01-01-04, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by another shy one
great idea, I just wanted to ask for how long should someone who started to PE do these exercises? I mean, how many weeks or months should there be before going to the next level?

Finally, it would be good if you described the exercises of different levels over the span of time. For example

The Newbie's Routine that you just described - X months

Level 2 - X months

Level 3 - X Months

Level 4 - X months

etc.

This would be an important guideline for those who do PE.

Thanks :)

Everyone is different when it comes to change in routine. Some men may gain on this routine for many weeks others may need to change routines in as soon as 1 month. If you are gaining on any particular routine then I would advise to continue with that routine until gains are exhausted. This is where a good measuring habit is important. Measuring the penis BONE PRESSED FLACCID STRETCHED is the best way to chart and determine the effectiveness of any routine as gains show up first here. I have been using PHASE 4 of the program for a few months now and I am currently writing PHASE 5.

another shy one

01-02-04, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
Everyone is different when it comes to change in routine. Some men may gain on this routine for many weeks others may need to change routines in as soon as 1 month. If you are gaining on any particular routine then I would advise to continue with that routine until gains are exhausted. This is where a good measuring habit is important. Measuring the penis BONE PRESSED FLACCID STRETCHED is the best way to chart and determine the effectiveness of any routine as gains show up first here. I have been using PHASE 4 of the program for a few months now and I am currently writing PHASE 5.

You're right. I think I'm gonna do it until the end of January.

thanks :)

another shy one

01-10-04, 12:30 AM

All right. Being still new to PE, I have some advices to give to the newbies.

The first concerns the grip. Now, if you're a newbie, you might have noticed that it's somewhat difficult to keep the grip on your penis when you want to do stretching exercises. The best natural and easy method that works for me is a soap called Irish Spring. Before doing your exercises, wash your hands and your penish with it (it's not necessary to take a bath. Be careful to dry those regions with a towel) and it will permit you to have a much better grip. Other methods to improve your grip are: Latex or plastic gloves (like surgeons's, golf gloves, etc.) and baby powder.

Second is more of an advice for the ligament stretches for the sides (right and left). When you do this exercise while standing up, spread your legs appart and shift your body towards the direction your're doing the stretch. For example, if you stretch to the Right, spread your legs appart and shift your body's weight to the Right (you should feel the Right leg's muscle tense... this is also quite a workout for the muscles! :D ). This method will help you target more easily the side ligaments.

quique

01-25-04, 01:41 PM

i think im jelqing correctly(from base to glans)...im following the routine the way you have laid it out..is this normal?...is there another exercise to fix this?.....or will stretchin' even it out?...lovely site by the way,DLD....im sending my fitty dollas very soon,thanks and peace out!!

doublelongdaddy

01-25-04, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by quique
i think im jelqing correctly(from base to glans)...im following the routine the way you have laid it out..is this normal?...is there another exercise to fix this?.....or will stretchin' even it out?...lovely site by the way,DLD....im sending my fitty dollas very soon,thanks and peace out!!

Some men do get the "baseball bat" effect, particularly when they start as it is not uncommon to make initial uneven gains. For most guys this evens out as their program progresses. For others, they need some specialized, targeted exercises for correction. You do not need to worry yet but if it does become a problem there are many routes to correction.

DLD

Johnny5

02-02-04, 08:55 AM

Hi DLD and all, brand newbie here myself but looks like you guys have a great, supportive community. I'm a little worried about messing with my manhood but have decided that your newbie routine seems reasonable to the effect that damage or injury shouldnt occur (though I will be taking it very slowly :P)

Question on your newbie routine here, do you do warm-ups before every technique mentioned? For instance, should I warm my penis with a heating pad or wet towel before every stretch, jelq, and kegel routine? And same thing with the warm-down.. Do I do that after every step as well? Sorry if the answer is obvious but I just want to mae sure I'm doing it right and it isnt spelled out for the slower folk like me in your instructions :)

-Johnny5

P.S. I see in some forums that you and others use viagra.. does heavy PE make it more difficult to get full, sustained erections?

Thanks to all!

quique

02-04-04, 09:10 AM

jon...after the whole session...not every exercise..you could,if you have the time.

mrp

02-13-04, 07:26 PM

For the cranking rotary, should i rotate in big cranks (straight down and all the way around,360) or small cranks while my dick is in front of me? lol

doublelongdaddy

02-26-04, 02:52 PM

For the cranking rotary, should i rotate in big cranks (straight down and all the way around,360) or small cranks while my dick is in front of me? lol

Mix it up, the idea on Rotary Stretches is getting all angles.

georginho

03-10-04, 12:21 PM

DLD... what is the best way to do kegels and reverse kegels, flaccid, semi-erect, fully erect ?
I feel i get a better squeeze fully-erect.

doublelongdaddy

03-13-04, 01:07 PM

DLD... what is the best way to do kegels and reverse kegels, flaccid, semi-erect, fully erect ?
I feel i get a better squeeze fully-erect.

KEGELS can be done in any erectile state. I prefer to do them flaccid so I can multi task (ie. watching tv, computer work, etc.)

levista

03-13-04, 08:22 PM

Well, just done my first week of DLDs newbie routine and am very happy. Not only with myself for finally getting started but also because i can feel my confidence growing.

Few quick thoughts;

It took me a few days to get over the fear i would pull my knob-end off when doing stretches! But now they are my favourite part of the routine. And i find myself sneaking in a quick extra stretch when i go to the bathroom ;)

Is it bad to have a near full erection when doing Jelqs? I find it hard to be in any state other than totally flaccid or near full erect. There is no sign of any discolorisation etc so everything seems fine at the moment. Would the benefits be lessened at all by having an erection?

Are the rotations more of a circulation exercise or do i need to be feeling a good stretch at all times during the circular motion?

Anyway, great routine, i get a little quicker each night as it all seems easier each night, and doing the routine already seems ingrained in my day :)

doublelongdaddy

03-13-04, 09:05 PM

Well, just done my first week of DLDs newbie routine and am very happy. Not only with myself for finally getting started but also because i can feel my confidence growing.

This is great news! Taking the first steps is sometimes the hardest part but once you get going it becomes easier and easier. It also becomes even better when you realize this shit actually works;)

It took me a few days to get over the fear i would pull my knob-end off when doing stretches! But now they are my favourite part of the routine. And i find myself sneaking in a quick extra stretch when i go to the bathroom ;)

Me too. During my whole first year I was scared of every little ping and pain. I was convinced I was hurting myself in some way. It takes a while but the fear will fade.

Is it bad to have a near full erection when doing Jelqs? I find it hard to be in any state other than totally flaccid or near full erect. There is no sign of any discolorisation etc so everything seems fine at the moment. Would the benefits be lessened at all by having an erection?

Are the rotations more of a circulation exercise or do i need to be feeling a good stretch at all times during the circular motion?

Rotary Cranks are a stretching exercise so you do want to keep steady pressure for the entire crank.

Anyway, great routine, i get a little quicker each night as it all seems easier each night, and doing the routine already seems ingrained in my day :)

This is such an important part of PE, making it a daily habit. Keep up the good work and let me know if you have any questions.

Supra

03-17-04, 06:39 PM

Keep on trucking levista!

dafatguy

03-24-04, 08:13 PM

After a long hiatus from the boards and pe I decided to start over with this routine.Its a solid foundation to work from.

doublelongdaddy

03-24-04, 08:18 PM

After a long hiatus from the boards and pe I decided to start over with this routine.Its a solid foundation to work from.

I'm just so happy to see you back!

levista

03-24-04, 08:23 PM

After a long hiatus from the boards and pe I decided to start over with this routine.Its a solid foundation to work from.

welcome back man, just keep in mind the end results...a bigger dick is more appealling to me than most things, keep your sports cars and expensive drinks, i want a woman-splitter in my pants!

triangulo

03-29-04, 11:26 AM

doublelongdaddy

03-29-04, 01:55 PM

The phase one is about 6 weeks. Am I suppose to do the exercises everyday?
How should i spread out the exercises throught the day? Do I do everything in a row?
I just became a member, and Im eager to start my routine.

I have always trained 7 days on no days off. I think this type of schedule promotes a more habitual program. For me days off can quickly turn into weeks off so it is better for me to be a daily trainer. I also believe that the penis only needs 24 hours of recovery before it is trained again. Some guys either do not have the time for this or it may be too difficult at first. In this case I recommend deducting one day at a time until the perfect routine is created. i.e. 6 on 1 off, 5 on 2 off.

I suggest that guys do the entire routine daily but I also suggest splitting up the exercise between length and girth at different times during the day. I find stretching in the morning while doing jelqing at night my concentration is much better.

DLD

loco

04-14-04, 05:43 AM

doublelongdaddy

04-14-04, 12:35 PM

DLD I would like to thank you. already noticed some improvements in girth and flaccid size. and honestly haven't been as faithful to the exercises as I should. which gets me excited thinking if I did. oh the what if's.... also I was wondering if someone say hangsand cuts back on girth work,will they loose some girth? thinking of the idea of a rubber band the farther you stretch it less width it has.

Good question and my answer is no, you won't lose girth. You may end up with a long penis that appears thin because no gains in girth were made (similar to Sean Michaels) but you wont become thinner.

TE Jason Crob

04-27-04, 04:50 PM

Hey, I"m new here, and I was wondering before I do this. Has there been any cases in injury, these techniques seem a little straining. Also is there away/technique to do jelqs to make it so it doesn't make ur penis girth uneven in different places? I'm not asking about reversing it, just how to avoid it, like a more even way to do it. I'd rather have an even penis then a huge bulge in the middle or somemthing. Thanks for the help

levista

04-27-04, 05:12 PM

Welcome to MoS mate, "where the big dicks hang out".

Yes there are injuries, check out the boo-boos forum here. Bottom line is if you start off with a sane routine like this one, and go slowly you will be fine. Its like any other sort of training, if you overdo it you will hurt yourself. In reality, you will find it so weird pulling on your dick it will take a week or two for you to get confident enough to really put force on it.

No-one has a huge bulge in their penis. jelqing is tried and tested and highly recommended, you're worrying too much. it'll take months to increase your girth and you wont wake up one morning with a deformed penis. You are right to ask though if you have any concerns =)
I would have the *opinion* that if your jelqing technique is good you'll never have any real problems that would stop you from slipping your enlarged penis into any willing mouths =)

TE Jason Crob

04-28-04, 02:58 PM

I tried jelqing, and it seems that the blood really just condences at the upper part of the penis, the bottem part isn't really affected, unless i'm doing somthing wrong. Also when I'm starting from the very bottem of the shaft when I am goin up it seems a part of the scrodum that connects to the abck of the shaft goes up with it until it slips out of my hand.. I can't really describe it well,its not that hindering it just seems there is probably a better way around it. maybe I'm doin the whole thing wrong. Can someone give me some tips, thanks

doublelongdaddy

04-28-04, 03:25 PM

levista

04-28-04, 04:53 PM

Are you cut or uncut mate? If you have a lot of skin, roll it back quite a bit before you start, keep trying and you'll find something that feels right.
The bottom part of the jelq? Nothing really happens there, you are collecting blood starting at the bottom and pushing it up to swell your head. That is the jelq. Your lower penis will benefit in relation to the rest of the penis growing.
It may help to trim hairs down there too, keep them short or you could pull them along and as they are attached to the rest of you it gets distracting or even a little painful.

Keep asking questions mate, its what we are here for. And I would also fully recommend joining the site if you can afford it, I'm a member and the videos are bloody priceless =)

TE Jason Crob

04-29-04, 10:30 PM

doublelongdaddy

04-29-04, 10:47 PM

I started to try the newbie routine, I jelqed for about 20 minutes. Its really hard not to get a full errection, I had to stop ever like 20 seconds and let it go back down, I started doin kegals when my dick got too hard and that helped it go down.. I don't know how many jelqs I did its really hard to keep track when ur trying to think of somthing else to not get an full errection. I didn't really do any stretching cuz i'd like to get my girth a little more proportion to my length before I start stretching. My lube sucked into the skin to easy I guess I better get some vasoline, seems to work better. Just wrote this.. just because, any comments or anything would be great, thanks

I have always trained at around 90-100% erect my entire program, I only state 80% because some feel any harder than this could cause injury. Vaseline is going to rock your word, nothing compares to it for lube. Also, do your stretches they will not effecy your girth and you will get longer as you get thicker.

esteban

04-29-04, 11:17 PM

TE Jason Crob

04-30-04, 05:01 PM

I have always trained at around 90-100% erect my entire program, I only state 80% because some feel any harder than this could cause injury. Vaseline is going to rock your word, nothing compares to it for lube. Also, do your stretches they will not effecy your girth and you will get longer as you get thicker.

what kind of injuries could u get from having 100% errection. n how hard should the grip be? thanx

TE Jason Crob

05-01-04, 12:47 PM

doublelongdaddy

05-01-04, 12:52 PM

I can't ever do 300 at a time, is that bad? I do about 50 before my lube starts to wear off, and maybe from too much blood or osmthing it has a tiny sting so I cool down for a minute and aply more lube and do it again, until I get to 300

Reapplication is fine. When I first started jelqing I used a hand lotion and I remember having to reapply every few minutes too. The one thing that solved this problem for me was switching to Vaseline. Vaseline lasts for ever, it is just a nightmare to clean-up, but I even used that to my advantage by using the clean-up time as my warm-down.

wants9

05-01-04, 05:38 PM

I'm having stretching problems, and wondered if anyone had any advice for me. My hands sweat all the time, and they always have ever since I can remember. I tried putting baby powder on them when I stretch, and it works for about 10 seconds, but then my hand sweat gets through somehow and I lose my grip. If I rub my hands together after that the powder seems to reapply, but then the same thing happens all over again. Any ideas?
Some people (I think Supra among them) have suggested using latex dish-washing gloves. The latex itself grips well, plus there's usually a tread on the fingertips that gives even more traction.

esteban

05-02-04, 07:09 PM

Thanks for the advice. I'll have to pick some up next time I'm at the store. I was thinking a golf glove as well might work, but dish gloves would be cheaper.

Welsh Rabbit

05-11-04, 09:22 PM

Well doublelongdaddy, Old chap it looks like you 2nd guessed me. And have answered my question, But still are there any free Video's or pictures on this site. I think having answered part of my question before you read the reply, You must be Welsh.

Welsh Rabbit

05-11-04, 09:32 PM

Like all other Newbies, I have started slowly, first I do a five minute warm up, then five minuets of stretching, first up for 15 sec's, then to the left and to the right, each for 15 sec. Then I Jelque for 5 minuets, I do not do another warm up prior to Jelqing. Then I warm down for two minuets. Would advise me to do other routines at this time?

WR

Iwant8X6

05-30-04, 03:51 PM

DLD,
I notice Levista is doing sets of 100's, but it looks like he has adapted the thought of 3 sets of stretches and used that with jelqs as well. Should I be doing 3 sets of 300 jelqs, or just 300. Actually I will be moving up to 600 today, So should I be doing 3 sets of 600?

Also I am trying to strengthen my erections, getting them, and keeping them. II quickly lose my full erection should I do more jelqs then to compensate for the loss of erection? I am going to be getting viagra soon. That should help.

levista

05-30-04, 07:29 PM

Iwant8x6, i break my jelqs into 100s as i find them manageable that way. I do a total of 600 - it used to be in 6 sets of 100, though I have since started doing 12 sets of 50.
Unless you have your own reasons for going insanely hardcore you dont want to be doing 1800 jelqs, especially in your newbie routine :)

DMXVSDMC

05-30-04, 08:44 PM

well i start today...hope this works

9cyclops9

05-30-04, 11:42 PM

It will.

Unless you quit, then it certainly won't do anything.

kwyckemynd00

06-02-04, 04:34 AM

I don't know what the deal is, but at some point I guess I squeezed too hard or something, 'cuz I've got these blood spots (almost like blood blisters, not just dots) on the bottom side of my glans, close to my pee-hole. Is this normal and how can I avoid this?

Thanks!

levista

06-02-04, 05:54 AM

Best post in the injuries forum mate, that way your request for help will be better seen.

georginho

06-02-04, 06:53 PM

DLD, see how you workout 7 days a week 365 days a year, and u say that you don't gain as much if you ejaculate 5 hours before or after each session(testostorone levels or something) when do you actually ejaculate then, lol
And do you think that you will stop growing at a certain size ?

kwyckemynd00

06-03-04, 03:35 AM

Best post in the injuries forum mate, that way your request for help will be better seen.
Thanks, sorry about that. BTW, they're healing up, so I'm not worried anymore. Next time I'll just take it easy. LOL>

AWFS

06-16-04, 11:56 AM

Hey DLD great newbie routine. i was just wondering how long does this take before there are resaults?

doublelongdaddy

06-16-04, 02:52 PM

Hey DLD great newbie routine. i was just wondering how long does this take before there are resaults?

Most folks notice a difference within the first week. Things to watch for are harder erections, a more vascular look, red spots, hair creeping up your shaft from stretching, maybe some light stretch marks. Some guys have very quick initial, measurable gains (within the first couple weeks). Some guys take a bit longer but if you believe and put in the work you will gain.

levista

06-23-04, 07:19 AM

Thanks, sorry about that. BTW, they're healing up, so I'm not worried anymore. Next time I'll just take it easy. LOL>

Hey, thats the main thing :) Apologies if my original post was a bit abrupt, I suspect that was one of my famous late-night exhausted posts, sorry about that :)

georginho

06-29-04, 01:50 PM

I don't kegel very much, but my erections are quite hard anyway(from kegeling in the past) would you say i should start kegeling every session or is it that important now that it's quite strong anyway ?

copper_handshak

06-30-04, 07:21 PM

I Kegel everyday. It is a small but very (seriously) important excercise. Those muscles play a role in balance and lower body strength in general, not to mention what it does for our common cause. Fountain of Youth.

Knave

07-01-04, 03:07 AM

When you stretch up, does that mean straight up towards the ceiling or against your abs?

I just started the newbie guide tonight. Everything seems to have gone okay. My only concern is about a turkeyneck(?) or something like that? I read about it on the boards a while back when I first found this site, but don't remember what it was/what causes it/how to fix it. On that note though, are there any common deformations? Do they go away over time? Also, are kegels important for gaining? I've been doing kegels off and on for about 3 years, but definately not every day. I did them every day for a long time until I got to a point that I wasn't noticing any improvements in performance (and don't feel I need any now). But if they play a role in gaining, I'll do them every day again. Right now I'm right at about 7 (erm, erect and not pushing down against the bone) but I feel small when I look at myself. I wan't to gain about 1 to 1.5 inches length and 1.5 to 2 inches in girth really just to boost my confidence.

Knave

07-01-04, 03:30 AM

Also forgot to ask is it possible to lose gains? I mean, is this permanent or mostly anyway? If I gain an inch in length then completely quit, will I lose the inch over time and go back to my "natural" length?

georginho

07-09-04, 12:58 PM

Yes it means towards the ceiling.
Kegels keep your dick firm when erect and healthier, but i don't do them every day, but if they are a big factor on gains i too will do them a lot again.
I think were all doing this to boost our confidence. ;)
So we can take our pants down and not be insecure about if she thinks it's small.
Yes it *IS* possible to lose gains (i've seen a few guys routine logs on here who have lost a little bit even when they were *STILL* PE'ing)
but if you've just made gains then it is a good idea to continue *CEMENTING* those gains for a couple weeks.

I don't know if you'd lose as much as an inch though. ?:(

DriverNuts

07-13-04, 05:17 PM

some good questions posted in the past 10 posts or so I hope they get answered

DVD

07-20-04, 09:36 PM

whats a pc?

a computer lol rofl rofl

How important are kegals?

I mean i tried these and after i stoped pissing (when not practasing them) my dick would drip.

Do these add size??

cumkiller

07-21-04, 05:33 PM

so u do those excercies everyday? wow, how many hourse would that be?

Greatdane

07-22-04, 07:57 PM

hello this is greatdane I am 6inlengthx6in.girth I am trippin out on all the people that say that they got gains by yanking there cock 600 times a day. I understand how stetchers may work but the jelq and the kegle and all that I am kinda wondering will this work.Another thing is that with my girth it hurts my girl alot when we fuck I rip her sometimes I just wont length on my penis, is this easier than girth to obtain. Please if a routine works please let me know I would like to be 9x6 when it is all said and done even though my girl threatned to leave me if it gets any bigger but fuck that I want a 9 inch cock.
Post a routine for me if u could greatdane.

bluesmansds

07-23-04, 09:43 AM

levista

07-23-04, 10:13 AM

so u do those excercies everyday? wow, how many hourse would that be?

40 to 50 mins abouts, depending on your warmup times etc per day

levista

07-23-04, 10:13 AM

Please if a routine works please let me know

Use the routine at the start of this thread. It works :)

cumkiller

07-23-04, 06:23 PM

hey thanks dude. btw, how many warm ups do u do? which method? the towel wrap or do u know anything else thats alot less hectic?

levista

07-24-04, 04:15 AM

hey thanks dude. btw, how many warm ups do u do? which method? the towel wrap or do u know anything else thats alot less hectic?

For warmup I use an electric pad, so i have heat on demand :) It doesnt get much easier than that !

cumkiller

07-25-04, 04:26 PM

electric head pad? whoooaa.. where did u buy that it? last night, i decided to try the towel wrap warm up.. made my penis hot but i can tell its a good idea to do it before doing PE.. hey dude! got any good PE excericse in ur mind of lengthing? i just found out that jelq is for girth, well i need something for length. any ideas? iv been stretching but it doesnt really seem to help much. id really appreciate it! lolz

cumkiller

07-26-04, 01:33 AM

how do u do the quick Kegel squeezes???

levista

07-26-04, 07:23 AM

I'm in the UK so got my electric pad in a catalogue store like Argos or Index. They are really meant for period cramps and elderly people with bad circulation. A big chemist may have them too.

For length, you need two things. Basic stretching and time! Keep at it!

asilver

07-28-04, 11:44 AM

hi mateys :)

300 jelqs.. all in one go or you devide it into sets?

thnks guys

Greatdane

07-28-04, 06:45 PM

twins172_up

07-28-04, 07:23 PM

hi mateys :)

300 jelqs.. all in one go or you devide it into sets?

thnks guys

it would be really hard to stay at the 80% - 100% erect level if you did 300 hundred straight...you can do sets...in between sets...arouse yourself back to the state you feel comfortable and start again.

twins172_up

07-28-04, 07:30 PM

How soon can I expect gains from this routine, and I find it hard to do this routine everyday because My girlfriend is a little asian and she said that if I got anybigger than she would leave me.I am not affraid of that but I mean I don't want her knowing I am yanking my cock to make it bigger, any suggestions on what to do in this case, oh yeah we live together.Thanks for responding that means alot.

everyone's gain time is different...length wise it might take a while to notice gains...(remember we are dealing with cm, mm, & inches) some gained 2" in 6 months some only a .5" in that same time...but i believe you notice girth (jelqs) after a few sessions...my dick look fuller in about a week of doing the wet jelqs part...

and about the girlfriend....i don't know what kind of relationship you guys have...but ask her to try to be more supportive...that you are doing this for you...you live with her unless you are in the house all day while she is at work or school...she is going to know you are doing something if you are trying to sneak away for an hour everyday...if that isn't an option...hey there are always those 3 in the morning sessions while she sleeps...good luck

dole01

08-03-04, 09:36 PM

i have some questions. First of all about stretches..you do them seated and it says to pull down and to the right and down and to the left...does that mean like 4:30 and 7:30 as opposed to 3:00 and 9:00? Also on the circular ones...are they little circles or big ones?

With kegals..do you do those with a boner or does it matter? thanks

alanfred

08-05-04, 05:40 PM

doublelongdaddy

08-05-04, 07:24 PM

i could swear the stretching routine in this thread has been changed. i remember it being more simple before, now all this between the cheeks stuff, lol. am i crazy or was there really another routine that was made up of just simple stretches?

Yes, I decided to upgrade the stretching portion of the newbie routine. I was going to post about it but I have been so busy that it slipped my mind. I changed the stretch routine to be the stepped up version of basic stretching, the pay-site will have the same changes soon.

twins172_up

08-05-04, 07:30 PM

Yes, I decided to upgrade the stretching portion of the newbie routine. I was going to post about it but I have been so busy that it slipped my mind. I changed the stretch routine to be the stepped up version of basic stretching, the pay-site will have the same changes soon.

why are most of the stretches going towards the left and none towards the right? is this suppose to be considered an advance stretching routine or just a different variation of the original? i think i am going to stick with what i've been doing....it's looks basically the same except the btc...which i think when i do my LAS it takes care of that...

doublelongdaddy

08-05-04, 07:49 PM

why are most of the stretches going towards the left and none towards the right? is this suppose to be considered an advance stretching routine or just a different variation of the original? i think i am going to stick with what i've been doing....it's looks basically the same except the btc...which i think when i do my LAS it takes care of that...

Fixed it, sorry:)

twins172_up

08-05-04, 08:00 PM

now that makes sense :)

DVD

08-05-04, 09:40 PM

could someone please fully explain a rotery strech

twins172_up

08-05-04, 10:17 PM

[QUOTE=DVD]could someone please fully explain a rotery strech[/QUOTE

you can use the palm down ok grip or you can put your penis in the palm of your hand...hold it below the head...stretch straight out..and rotate it in a circle

doublelongdaddy

08-06-04, 01:56 PM

could someone please fully explain a rotery strech

Pull out to a maximum stretch in any direction. Once at full stretch, rotate your hand (like stirring a pot) while keeping maximum stretch force. You can vary this to include small and larger rotations.

doublelongdaddy

08-06-04, 01:57 PM

now that makes sense :)

That is the problem with cut and paste:D

alanfred

08-06-04, 02:37 PM

crazyed27

08-06-04, 02:42 PM

Oh no... have I been doing a weak routine this whole time?

Nope not at all!

alanfred

08-07-04, 02:43 AM

uh.. cool! So why the modification DLD, the original routine seemed nice and simple for the real newbies. Just wondering. And it worked too, according to crazyed. Personally I'm sticking to it until I get to 7"!

REDZULU2003

08-07-04, 04:48 PM

Alanfred, it isnt a weak routine ... far from it.

Thanatos

08-09-04, 10:01 AM

doublelongdaddy

08-09-04, 10:34 AM

Great Beginner Routine. A quick question though. When you do three reps of the stretches, do you go through each set once and then repeat the whole procedure two more times or do you do each subset of stretches 3 times and then move on to the next? Does it matter which way you do it?

It really is preference. I sometimes do all sets consecutive and sometimes I will go through the routine 3 times, really makes no difference.

wannagrow4real

08-09-04, 02:04 PM

DLD, you say you've gained 2 inches with this routine, but in what time?

doublelongdaddy

08-09-04, 02:12 PM

DLD, you say you've gained 2 inches with this routine, but in what time?

In my first 6 months I went from around 6.5" to 8.25"

wannagrow4real

08-09-04, 04:39 PM

In my first 6 months I went from around 6.5" to 8.25"

two inches in six months... :cool: KEWL :cool:

Greatdane

08-09-04, 05:34 PM

I was thinking about hanging instead of all the stretching routines would this be wise or should I do both I am 6x5.5 now I would like to be 9.5x7.0. Not to big but not to small, Should I hang and jelq not at same time but after hanging session.I have heard more length progress with hanging than anyother thing? I just want more length for right now.I am a grower.Help!

wannagrow4real

08-10-04, 02:26 PM

I never liked the idea of hanging.
Always afraid I would rip my head off

wannagrow4real

08-10-04, 02:27 PM

In my first 6 months I went from around 6.5" to 8.25"

But you only did this routine and nothing else?

edaily55

08-11-04, 04:46 PM

I'm a little confused on the stretches:

When you say 3 sets of each, do you mean, each stretch that's listed should be done three times? You have 15 stretches listed, each of which is 30 seconds, which is 7.5 minutes right there. If you were to triple that, you've got 22.5 minutes on the stretching alone.

Am I reading that correctly? As it is now I do each of those 30 second stretches you list one time.

twins172_up

08-11-04, 05:43 PM

mmac

08-11-04, 05:57 PM

was thinking about hanging instead of all the stretching routines would this be wise or should I do both I am 6x5.5 now I would like to be 9.5x7.0. Not to big but not to small,

Sir, thats very big.

twins172_up

08-11-04, 06:23 PM

mmac.. i was thinking the same thing :)

DVD

08-11-04, 09:49 PM

I am 6x5.5 now I would like to be 9.5x7.0. Not to big but not to small, !

Not too big?? man most guys would kill for a tool like that!!

9"+ length = official monster cock

edaily55

08-11-04, 10:47 PM

it probably should take about 15- 20 minutes if you are doing (3) sets....that means you stretch in every direction 3 different times

I understand, my question was whether or not DLD intends us to do each of those stretches 3 times, or when he says 3 reps, he's just referring to one rep of each of the three stretches.

Simply put: Am I supposed to do each stretch listed in the DLD Newbie Routine three times? Meaning a *total* of a minute and a half for each stretch (even though it says 30 seconds)?

doublelongdaddy

08-11-04, 11:08 PM

I understand, my question was whether or not DLD intends us to do each of those stretches 3 times, or when he says 3 reps, he's just referring to one rep of each of the three stretches.

Simply put: Am I supposed to do each stretch listed in the DLD Newbie Routine three times? Meaning a *total* of a minute and a half for each stretch (even though it says 30 seconds)?

I made some major changes to the newbie routine to include multiple positions of stretch. You will now be doing:

Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds x 3

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks x 3

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks x 3

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks x 3

With small breaks the entire stretch portion should not take more than 35 minutes. If the routine is too intense or lengthly you may oopt to reduce the total sets to 2 or even 1.

twins172_up

08-11-04, 11:46 PM

edaily55

08-12-04, 01:07 AM

Wow, okay. That's a lot of stretching, heh.

DVD

08-12-04, 04:57 PM

I made some major changes to the newbie routine to include multiple positions of stretch. You will now be doing:

Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds x 3

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks x 3

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks x 3

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks x 3

With small breaks the entire stretch portion should not take more than 35 minutes. If the routine is too intense or lengthly you may oopt to reduce the total sets to 2 or even 1.

Do you shake the blood flow into the glans between sets or reps?

and for how long??

edaily55

08-12-04, 05:13 PM

Question for everyone who's gained, especially DLD: How important do you think stretches REALLY are in the grand scheme of things? I plan on doing them and they obviously have their value, but woudln't something like jelqing ultimately do a lot more to expand and enlarge the penis?

alanfred

08-12-04, 06:00 PM

and what did you gain those 2 inches on DLD, the first routine that was here or the new one? my grip cant last through the new one.. lol

Bryson

09-01-04, 08:39 PM

DLD, I'm curous as to why you changed the newbie routine? Is this one supposed to produce more gains?

doublelongdaddy

09-01-04, 08:56 PM

DLD, I'm curous as to why you changed the newbie routine? Is this one supposed to produce more gains?

I thought that a multi-angled beginners approach would produce faster gains and allow the user to gain more using this phase.

DLD

ruralite116

09-06-04, 08:13 AM

rofl i now now how

doublelongdaddy

09-06-04, 06:37 PM

rofl i now now how

?:(

frnzy

09-17-04, 12:59 AM

frnzy

09-17-04, 04:04 PM

Well i am sure people can answer my question very easyily but i would like to keep it in this thread, so just bumping to see if maybe someone will notice a post was made

doublelongdaddy

09-17-04, 04:44 PM

This is my first post so here it goes

when stretching you pull your flacid penis to the area that it says, so for Right buttocks behind, you pull down and right, pulling firmly and crank is rotating the penis? The idea is to loosen the ligaments and prevent injury during the jelq correct?

There are no cranking rotary with BTC. Basically BTC is performed by grabbing your flaccid penis just below the glans (head) and stretching back and upward toward your ass. You will go to the right, left and center.

BigFish

10-11-04, 09:28 AM

When I stretch I get an erection of about 70%. That makes it hard to stretch successfully, so how do you guys cope with this problem?

DVD

10-27-04, 11:23 PM

Big fish wait till your errection goes down,

Its best and safer to streched flacid anyways, just wait a min or two and continue. I find sitting down and streching with both hands downward gives me the best strech, i do it almost as hard as I can.

Testicle Health
Testicle Health Stretch will help your penis to hang lower in flaccid state. It will also increase blood flow to your testicles and aid in sperm count. This routine should take no longer than 5 minutes but the benefits are many.

With favorite lotion grab your scrotum just above your testicles. Now in a rubbing motion massage each testy for 30 seconds rubbing between your fingers in a gentle but firm movement. Now massage all the fluid around your testicles for 60 seconds. At this point your scrotum should be very relaxed. Finally lightly stretch your scrotum downward while the other hand pulls your penis upward. Do 60 of these. This is a very quick routine but the benefits are great. This will also aid you in any kind of early warning signs of testicular problems.

2 off.

I find these testicle streches are quite sore on the testicles to do,

what am I doing wrong??

Could you describe more in detail the grip used to grab the scrotum?

Thanks

DVD

arawndark

11-02-04, 07:34 PM

I can't seem to get into the stretches at all. I do 300 of the normal slow jelq and 200 faster jelq 7 days a week though. I will do some stretching usually every other day, but not as thoroughly as this workout shows. Can jelq alone provide pretty steady gains? I would have no problem with doing even more jelqs if I could avoid the stretching -- if it means slower gains, but still making gains, that is acceptable.

DVD

11-02-04, 07:50 PM

doublelongdaddy

11-09-04, 04:26 PM

A great addition to the Newbie Routine is the Power Assist (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13928) it will help isolate and intensify your basic stretching.

25cent

11-15-04, 09:27 PM

after i do my newbie stretches, the tip of my head gets red and after a few hours it is noticably bruised. it goes away in about 24 hours or so. is this NORMAL?

MidwestFreek

12-19-04, 12:16 AM

brand new to this whole thing...gonna try this out like it was my only religion(im atheist so it just might be)..and im going to try to do a journal..updating everyday on the quality of my "workout" and all that stuff..updating measurements every month...is there nebody on here thatd be willing to remind me to update if i fail to remember on my own(happens a lot)

wants9

12-19-04, 08:46 AM

.is there nebody on here thatd be willing to remind me to update if i fail to remember on my own(happens a lot)

Why don't you just set MoS as your home page? That should serve as a reminder every time you open up your browser.

doublelongdaddy

12-19-04, 10:20 AM

dafatguy

01-07-05, 05:03 PM

When I stretch I get an erection of about 70%. That makes it hard to stretch successfully, so how do you guys cope with this problem?

Bump for more advice!

doublelongdaddy

01-07-05, 09:02 PM

When I stretch I get an erection of about 70%. That makes it hard to stretch successfully, so how do you guys cope with this problem?

Bump for more advice!

Stretching at 70% can be productive but flaccid will produce faster results. I suggest getting all of your girth work done, masturbating, then stretch after that. Unless you are a boner king:D you should have a solid 30 minutes without an erection.

25cent

01-13-05, 03:24 AM

after i do my newbie stretches, the tip of my head gets red and after a few hours it is noticably bruised. it goes away in about 24 hours or so. is this NORMAL?

can anyone help me with this?

ldhuge

01-13-05, 09:33 AM

i do all of phase 1 at the same time at night before i go to sleep. is that ok??

doublelongdaddy

01-13-05, 11:26 AM

can anyone help me with this?

Some guys are more prone to bruising than others and it sounds like you are one of these people. I am one also and I bruise very easily. There is nothing to worry about this is a normal part of pe (even more so for us:))

i do all of phase 1 at the same time at night before i go to sleep. is that ok??

That is fine, as long as you are getting a solid routine in, time of day does not matter.

lowsodium

01-17-05, 08:08 PM

doublelongdaddy

01-21-05, 02:42 PM

I saw someone mentioned that you will have better gains if you dont ejaculate 5 hours prior? Whats the cause for this and is it a legitimate concern?

Stopping now would be well worth the gains later.

Not ejaculating has only an effect of Girth work meaning if you cum before training girth your session will suffer. If you are done with you girth, have fun.

lowsodium

02-01-05, 09:41 PM

Ahh, gotcha. Thanks for the reply.

worldknown

02-02-05, 11:20 PM

DLD's NEWBIE ROUTINE

Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Basic Jelqing

For First 2 weeks - 300 2 Second Jelqs

after 2 weeks - 600 2 Second Jelqs

After Jelq: Warm Down

PC Muscle Fitness

100 quick Kegel squeezes

50 of the following:
Squeeze your PC muscle as hard as you can, hold for 5 seconds then slowly release for 2 seconds. When you have finished the 50 your PC muscle will be screaming. This is a good sign. Now to finish the exercise start squeezing and hold for 1 minute, if you get tired squeeze harder until the minute is complete.

what is a behind the cheek and to the left? Most of those i dont even know how to do, does anyone have a link to an example? Thanks!

doublelongdaddy

02-03-05, 08:05 PM

what is a behind the cheek and to the left? Most of those i dont even know how to do, does anyone have a link to an example? Thanks!

There are over 150 videos on Matters of Size Main Site (http://www.mattersofsize.com)

5inchesbig

02-05-05, 03:23 PM

DLD,

When you say under the definition of 'basic jelqing"... "increase intensity" ... do u mean increase intensity of the pressure of your "OK" sign... like make the "O" part of the sign smaller so it is tighter, or do you mean pull harder when you go up the shaft?

Thanks.

doublelongdaddy

02-05-05, 04:03 PM

GhosT_DoGG

02-05-05, 04:43 PM

Exactly!
lol, nice answer, that didnt really answer it. Because he describe two things and wonder which of them were the right one, and you just said exactly, how would he then know which of those you ment?=) (not to be rude)

doublelongdaddy

02-05-05, 04:55 PM

lol, nice answer, that didnt really answer it. Because he describe two things and wonder which of them were the right one, and you just said exactly, how would he then know which of those you ment?=) (not to be rude)

Exactly to both, more pressure, pull harder. Duh! :s

AnotherGuy

02-08-05, 03:03 PM

Hello all,

Veteran PE'er who got results and then became unfocused :/

Gonna get back into the swing of things and plan on trying this routine out for a while and see where it gets me. At one point I plateau'd and wasn't getting gains. Then started AI stretches which helped but the gains slowed and I got frustrated. Now I'm back and ready to be bigger and badder than ever, 9" here I come :cool:

Hey DLD how's life treating you?

doublelongdaddy

02-08-05, 04:33 PM

Hey DLD how's life treating you?

Hey AG! Things have been steady and I can't complain:) Where you been at?

AnotherGuy

02-08-05, 04:45 PM

Hey AG! Things have been steady and I can't complain:) Where you been at?

Working at work, working on paying bills, working on buying a house, and working on starting my own business...all that work leave's lil time to work on mini-AG :P

Just got out of a relationship and have a lil more me time, so I decided to make me and mini-me bigger, gonna join a gym and get back to the program. And then get back in the ocean to find some fishies to show my new phallus;) I see quite a few of my fellow PE'er have gotten far ahead of me in terms of growth, time to play catch up.

doublelongdaddy

02-12-05, 08:57 AM

Working at work, working on paying bills, working on buying a house, and working on starting my own business...all that work leave's lil time to work on mini-AG :P

Just got out of a relationship and have a lil more me time, so I decided to make me and mini-me bigger, gonna join a gym and get back to the program. And then get back in the ocean to find some fishies to show my new phallus;) I see quite a few of my fellow PE'er have gotten far ahead of me in terms of growth, time to play catch up.

I am not sure if I should say sorry or congratulations of the relation things but please apply which ever one applies. I am __________about your relationship. (sorry or happy) PE is the best bounce back regardless, use all that emotion to get huge!

Otherwise it sounds like your schedule is crazy so try to at least get 15-20 minutes in a day until you have the time. Mini-Sessions will help you keep your sanity.

AnotherGuy

02-12-05, 10:35 PM

I am not sure if I should say sorry or congratulations of the relation things but please apply which ever one applies. I am __________about your relationship. (sorry or happy) PE is the best bounce back regardless, use all that emotion to get huge!

Otherwise it sounds like your schedule is crazy so try to at least get 15-20 minutes in a day until you have the time. Mini-Sessions will help you keep your sanity.

It's a good thing. It's not as hectic as it sounds, I actually have everything in a nice set routine...working on fitting the PE in there

birdman

02-20-05, 01:50 AM

does this really work?

MidwestFreek

03-16-05, 03:15 AM

Would doing this in the morning as well as at night provide better results, or could it be possibly counterproductive?

doublelongdaddy

03-16-05, 01:32 PM

Would doing this in the morning as well as at night provide better results, or could it be possibly counterproductive?

I have tried it all:D

Think jelqing once a day is enough but stretching twice would be extremely beneficial.

MidwestFreek

03-16-05, 03:41 PM

Aslo, would doing alllll the jelqs in one sitting be required or could you span em out along the course of the day. I just tried the workout after getting out of the shower, and it takes so long

wawawa

03-17-05, 08:51 PM

Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Does that mean I do:

3 sets Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
3 sets Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
3 sets The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds ??

OR

3 sets Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds ??

Thanks

MidwestFreek

03-19-05, 06:58 PM

Does that mean I do:

3 sets Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
3 sets Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
3 sets The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds ??

OR

3 sets Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds ??

Thanks
The first one

osmittyo

03-22-05, 07:57 AM

Hello All,

I'm new to this PE business. I plan to get into the member site at the end of the month with the next pay check, but I wanted to get started now if possible using this routine.

I do have a questions. From all my reading I see where the 80-100% erection is good for the jelqing, but from reading this thread you are supposed to do the stretching in the flacid state, is that correct? I'm rather small when flacid (only about 1.5-2" flacid and 5.5 erect). It is difficult for me to get a decent grip like that. I was getting to about a 50% erection for the stretching to help. Is this ok?

Thanks for the advice.

doublelongdaddy

03-22-05, 01:10 PM

I'm new to this PE business. I plan to get into the member site at the end of the month with the next pay check, but I wanted to get started now if possible using this routine.

This is a great place to start and this routine goes hand and hand with the members site so when you are ready things will make perfect sense.

I do have a questions. From all my reading I see where the 80-100% erection is good for the jelqing, but from reading this thread you are supposed to do the stretching in the flacid state, is that correct? I'm rather small when flacid (only about 1.5-2" flacid and 5.5 erect). It is difficult for me to get a decent grip like that. I was getting to about a 50% erection for the stretching to help. Is this ok?

With most stretches you don't need a whole hell of allot of flaccid penis to do them. Since you are using an "ok" grip you only need enough room to get one finger around. I think semi-erect stretches are beneficial but do not have the potential fully flaccid ones do.

Zuul

04-04-05, 01:31 PM

ok... so I hope I don't say anything out of place here... but any reason this routine is more involved (but close) to the one on the pay site? I like this one more, and have been doing it instead because of the additional stretches involved. I was just wondering.

Also... some of the "movies" on the may site still aren't working. One I'm specifically interested in is the "horse sqeeze".

Thanks! Still loving it.

doublelongdaddy

04-04-05, 01:40 PM

ok... so I hope I don't say anything out of place here... but any reason this routine is more involved (but close) to the one on the pay site? I like this one more, and have been doing it instead because of the additional stretches involved. I was just wondering.

It should be identical, sometimes I update in one place and not another so if that is the case I am sorry. What is different?

Also... some of the "movies" on the may site still aren't working. One I'm specifically interested in is the "horse sqeeze".

I am on it today.

DLD

Zuul

04-04-05, 01:44 PM

It should be identical, sometimes I update in one place and not another so if that is the case I am sorry. What is different?
DLD

Well, here you are having people do a behing the cheek, straight down, straight out and straight up whereas on the pay site it is only straight down (left, right center) and straight up center so you miss the behind the cheek, straigh out and 2 of the straight up ones (plus here has 2 additional rotary cranks).

I hope I was clear enough.

Still, I'm very pleased so far in my first 2 weeks. I've seen enough to keep my motivation going for a while! :)

Zuul

04-04-05, 01:50 PM

oh yea, in looking I guess that may also apply to the "basic stretching" page as well with the pictures. Don't know if you need to update that as much though other than to add the rest of the stretches (IE: Maybe don't need the pictures?).

Hey, pictures are great! You can say a 1000 words with one picture! Again, I'll state it has helped me joining the member site for the videos and pictures alone.

REDZULU2003

04-04-05, 02:26 PM

I can answer you...DLD is kind, he shares some of his paysite material with the forum members and hence this comes in.
Just so happens that he has exercises in this that aint in the paysite one...that doesnt mean its any worse or better.
This is DLD's FIRST ROUTINE, the paysite isnt his first routine and has been stripped down to fit the phases.

h@gobêl

04-19-05, 10:36 PM

thanks a lot DLD,,

neognostic

04-23-05, 08:36 PM

hey, absolute newbie here. just joined the paysite last week and trying to get on a schedule of PEing AND jogging. spring's the time:) anyways, regarding the stretching routines. i'm going to switch to the DLD routine mentioned in this thread because it seems more intensive without me jumping the gun to a too advanced phase. so, when i'm done stretching it's good to really feel it at the base of the penis right? i'm not talking about pain here just soreness like you've had a good workout. glad to be a part of the group and looking forward to good news in six weeks or so.

insearchof9inch

04-24-05, 03:18 PM

a stretching feeling in the base of your penis will mean that your ligaments are beings stretched (a good thing)

evilstreetz

05-10-05, 05:07 AM

hello, I'm also a new member to this forum but already doing PE sessions for about 4 weeks. I started to notice some changes in girth but still no erect lenght changes. Is this normal? been doing BTC, up, down, front stretches and jelqing for about 20 mins a day with a 3 sec stretch... is it possible that I don't respond so well to this newbie routine and have to switch to some different exercises? If not at this point, please advise me when... THANKS

mimo_loveyou

05-16-05, 06:59 PM

كس امممممممممممك

hectorlambert

05-17-05, 09:50 PM

I am 18 and have 6.5 to 6.75 with a5.3-5 midshaft do you thing with the use of vigRX and the jelqdevice I can meet 8" erect

VeryShyGuy

05-18-05, 12:29 AM

vigrx is bullshit dont waste ur money :)

mannyflugo

05-25-05, 11:06 PM

newbie here, just signed up a few days ago. question about the newbie routine specifically jelq's. The routine says 2 second jelq's and the video shows 2 second jelq's, but the pictures say 10s minimum for each jelq. which one is correct? Also, the videos for the testicle health page aren't up. thanks!

insearchof9inch

05-26-05, 07:11 AM

I personally perform 2 second jelqs. Works for me. I hear slower jelqs are better for gaining girth and faster jelqs for length. Not sure though.

mannyflugo

05-27-05, 09:19 PM

Thanks for the quick reply insearch! is there a such thing as too erect or too soft when jelqing? what happens if you're too soft or too hard?

jlcool

05-29-05, 06:57 PM

Hi every one"
and Hello to DLD".
Im new to the forums here.
and I tried some of DLD hand Stretching techinques that I saw through his download video for examples..
Nice Job DLD :) :)
I tried them for about a week or so and I also did some variations to it.
and in just a littel over 1 week I gained close to about 1/2" in length.
then again I also did it 3 times a day for stretching with a littel Jeqluing.
and I did the stretching and Jeqluing while erect too.
this was the cause for the variation in the techinque..
the stretching while erect cause more cells to devided in the Corpus Cavernosum chambers of the penis.
and you can really feel the stretch good duren most the basic Stretching exercise DLD show you how to do.
I also seen some gains right off in girth for width for erect and soft..
and The Keleg duren being erect and stretching and doing it while stretching soft..
it impressed me alot on the gains I gotten from it in just a littel over week time.
and most important part is rest so the body can heal it self and rebuild the stretched tissue.
so I wish you all the best of luck and to DLD keep up the good Job man Cheers" :) :) :) :) :) ;) ;) :cool: :cool: rofl rofl

insearchof9inch

05-30-05, 04:28 AM

Thanks for the quick reply insearch! is there a such thing as too erect or too soft when jelqing? what happens if you're too soft or too hard?

Jelqing when too soft probably won't produce many gains. Personally I jelq at 100% erection although this can cause vascular damage if the penis is not used to it.jelq at around 75% erection for a month, then it should be ready to jelq at 100%

jlcool

05-31-05, 08:37 PM

Well I been doing some the techinques DLD shows for the power Assist and for just basic hand stretching.
I noticed allot the next day that the penis feels more solid and stronger and heavier then what it used to feel..
I even noticed the skins looks more healthier and so does the penis head glan look more bigger and feels more solid from this type of techinque for PE..
I been seeing faster gains from this type of stretching and exercise then using one of those penis stretching devices.
those Penis stretching devices can only do stretchs two ways.
up and down..
they seem to make the penis slimmer some from the stretch using a penis stretcher device.
Doing DLD hand stretchs I feel more stretch in the shaft area and on the ligament and in the Corpus Cavernosum tissue then using a penis strecter device.
I can tell by sight and by the feel of it that DLD techinque works good and fast.
I bet in a few more weeks I see even more size gains in thinkness and length doing DLD techinque for PE.!
can any you tell me how much you guys gains was in your first week to two weeks of gain doing DLD PE techinque ?

corey

06-02-05, 12:38 AM

guys....quick question:

when you jelq....is it best to have foreskin in your hand too or should you totally peel that back and just jelq the shaft?

Bulldawg

06-02-05, 03:05 PM

Yo DLD...where exactly is the PC muscle located and how should one exercise this muscle?

insearchof9inch

06-02-05, 04:08 PM

I think DLD is taking a bit of a break from posting due to personal matters, but most people here could answer this.

The PC muscle is located between the scrotum and anus. Put your finger anywhere on this and contract as though you are trying to hold in urine. You should feel it tense up. These contractions are how you exercise (you don't need to keep your finger there that was just for location purposes)

Kegels are great for powering up erection quality and increasing the amount of fluid ejaculated aswell as many other benefits I myself don't really know.

Hope this helps man.

wishiwasbigger

06-07-05, 02:51 AM

a stretching feeling in the base of your penis will mean that your ligaments are beings stretched (a good thing)

I dont feel this stretching feeling in the base of my penis i've only been doing them for 3 days does this mean i'm not doing enough sets or not pulling hard enough. I was not doing 3 sets of stretches only one set of each but was doing them for more than 30 sec each. More like 60 sec each

jlcool

06-08-05, 03:28 AM

I dont feel this stretching feeling in the base of my penis i've only been doing them for 3 days does this mean i'm not doing enough sets or not pulling hard enough. I was not doing 3 sets of stretches only one set of each but was doing them for more than 30 sec each. More like 60 sec each

Hello wishiwasbigger
Well if you do not feel the stretching in the shaft or the base of your member.
try pulling it a bit more hard, but do it slowly and when you start to feel the stretch in the base or in the shaft area, you may want to increase the tension pull on it a bit more to increase a bit more of a stretch.
cause I been doing some of these exercises and stretches my self.
and they do work good.
I noticed a change right off after the first time I did them for about 30 minutes to an hour.
and I stretch longer then 30 seconds.
I mostly stretch for one type of stretch for about 5 minutes at a time some times longer to get more of stretch out of it.
and some times I do jeqluing in between 3 sets of stretching.
this helps give more circulation and blood flow to the penis duren stretching.
I do a routine of 2 - 3 days on and 1 day off then back on again.
and I also use a FastSize device as well too.
and I use that to stretch 1/2" inch to 1" inch over the erect length.
for about 1 to 2 hours tops with a 20 to 30 minute break in between for jelquing to restore circulation and blow flow to the head.
cause some times, ( not all the time) the device does cut of some circulation to the head, ( mostly hanging down)..
and with the combo of DLD techinque and the device it seems to increase more growth and faster results in size gains...
I did try using weights before on and off in the past.
but there not that good to use penis health or size gains realy.
cause the weight tend to cut of circulation to the head to much and I never did that much weight any way.
cause it's not how much weight you use its how long you stretch it for that gets the results.
and I did not feel comfortible using weights cause its dangerous type of exericse and if you ever watched those chinees videos of them pulling a truck with their penis ?
they also say they had some of the men pull their tunica out of wack and not only there that was a case reported were a few men actualy pull the head off their penis completely..
so I do think thats to healthy at all..
DLD techinques and Stretching device is a more safer routine to do then weights..
and for pumps for that matter too.
Pumps if you over do it to much and to fast can cause damage to your member and even cause you not to have an erection again !!
I read the reports on pumps and there not intended for enlargement their made for those that can NOT get an erection.
and if you want more stonger erection do kelag exercise the way DLD instructs you should do it and also do reps like you would do for a bicep curl.
do not hold it for 15 count just do reps of 10 to 20 for 3 sets then do the reps of holding it for 15 count or as long as you can do it.
and soon you notice some results behind the sack area feels more musclar and stronger.

VeryShyGuy

06-08-05, 08:38 PM

Nice work Jcool , after a 3rd post i can see you will contribute to our Pe community. Its god to see a lot of help going into the newer members :)

jlcool

06-09-05, 10:02 PM

Nice work Jcool , after a 3rd post i can see you will contribute to our Pe community. Its god to see a lot of help going into the newer members :)

Thanks VeryShyGuy
I also seen some of custome exstenders on here too.
they seem okay.
but I made a home made one my self and it has power springs that uses for force for stretching.
simular to a pro fastSize exstender device but not as nice.
you can exstend right up to 12" or more depending on how long you want the screw rodes to be when you buy the parts for it.
it does not fold down or up stays straight.
but it does work.
I made that about 3 years ago and used it on and off.
I can some time soon post pics on how it looks and what parts to buy, which you can find in any home depo store.
and it only cost about around $10. the most to make.
so in any one wants to see the home made exstender device I made.
just post on here a few times and I will gather my files and post the pics.

MackIII

06-10-05, 04:51 AM

Thanks VeryShyGuy
I also seen some of custome exstenders on here too.
they seem okay.
but I made a home made one my self and it has power springs that uses for force for stretching.
simular to a pro fastSize exstender device but not as nice.
you can exstend right up to 12" or more depending on how long you want the screw rodes to be when you buy the parts for it.
it does not fold down or up stays straight.
but it does work.
I made that about 3 years ago and used it on and off.
I can some time soon post pics on how it looks and what parts to buy, which you can find in any home depo store.
and it only cost about around $10. the most to make.
so in any one wants to see the home made exstender device I made.
just post on here a few times and I will gather my files and post the pics.

Sure post the pics. I'm sure a lot of us are interested.

wishiwasbigger

06-14-05, 12:16 AM

wishiwasbigger

06-14-05, 12:25 AM

oh yea thanks guys

gilligan

06-24-05, 12:06 PM

hi,
i just read these first routines, but i don't understand what you mean byt "behind the cheeks". can u please explain?

thx a lot

Chi

07-10-05, 12:51 AM

BTC means grab your penis from behind, under your leg, and pull. Your pulling hand should get close to your asshole.

asd1

07-28-05, 08:25 PM

how long did it take for you to gain 2 inches with this routine? and was it everyday you worked on it?

doublelongdaddy

07-28-05, 08:31 PM

how long did it take for you to gain 2 inches with this routine? and was it everyday you worked on it?

I gained 2 inches just inside of six months and I trained, with this routine, daily.

goinfor11x7

07-28-05, 08:52 PM

DLD,

Thank you for your inspirational threads. Over the past two years, I've read them over and over and adopted many of your techniques. Without a doubt the three most important things we have in common are the desire, the intense, daily workouts,
(I rarely miss a day), and the willingness to stick to our goals through thick and thin.

As many of my PE pals say, "You're da man!!!"

geeke19

08-13-05, 02:12 AM

I am looking at a picture of where the pc muscle is at, if I am reading it right, its under the balls between that and your anus or is it inside your dick? Just wanting to know confused.

doublelongdaddy

08-13-05, 07:18 PM

Here is a post from a member at another forum that should be helpful:

I guess it doesn't really matter what you call the muscle you contract when doing Dr. Kegel's exercise, as long as you do it correctly and consistently. However, being a stickler for accuracy, I have to point out that men contract a different muscle than women when doing Kegels and it isn't the PC (pubococcygeus). It's actually the BC (bulbocavernosus). This is probably the only place on the Internet where you'll find this distinction. Most will probably find it easier to "go with the flow" and conform to years of misconception by just calling it the PC.

Why isn't it the same muscle? Men and women are different. Females have essentially internal sex organs, males essentially external. The PC muscle is located in such a way that it is above and behind the penis and it contracts up into the pelvis. While its action on the rectum may add a little to the pull on the penis, it isn't the main muscle being exercised when men do Kegels. Of course men can contract their PC muscle. They do it every time they have a bowel movement. Some probably contract it while doing the Kegel exercise (by involving the anal area), but it isn't necessary to do so for a stronger penis.

First part of the anatomy lesson. Please see the "Pelvic Muscles" illustration below. The PC muscle, along with the Iliococcygeus muscle (IC) make up the Levator ani muscle which serves as the "floor" of the pelvis, keeping your abdominal contents from sliding into your perineum. It also plays a roll in bowel movements. Both the PC and IC are made of two flat sheets of muscle (one on each side). The PC is attached in the front to the pubic bone. The two halves sweep along the sides of the pelvis and attach at the rear to the coccyx (tail bone). The IC attaches to the pelvic bone on the sides and at the coccyx in the rear like the PC. In a side view (not shown) the Levator ani is funnel-shaped, surrounding the rectum/anus. One of its main purposes is to pull the rectum back up into position after a bowel movement.

Note how the PC forms a "U" shape as it wraps around the rectum. The urethra and vagina in women are much more in contact with the PC than the urethra is in men. In addition to forming a sling around the rectum, the PC passes by the sides of and inserts into the vagina and urethra in women. The contractions of the muscle can be felt by a finger in the vagina. This is why Dr. Kegel advised his female patients (he was a gynecologist) to exercise the PC muscle. It helps tighten the vaginal canal, rectum, and urethra especially after childbirth which can stretch these pelvic structures and cause urinary incontinence and uterine prolapse. Dr. Kegel showed that exercising the PC muscle could strengthen the female perineum and help cure the physical ailments as well as improve their sex lives.*

Where is the bulbocavernosus (BC) muscle? Please see the "Perineal Muscles" illustration below for the second part of the anatomy lesson. Both sexes have a pair of BC muscles. In females it surrounds the vaginal opening. Some women can independently contract the BC and the PC. Most contract both at the same time. In the male, the two halves of the BC are joined in a "herringbone" pattern surrounding the bulb of the penis (the internal base of the corpus spongiosum).

The BC muscle has two main purposes. One is to force liquid (urine or semen) out of the urethra. It does this by way of the herringbone interlacing of muscle fibers which, as they contract, milk the urethra toward the meatus (opening at the tip of the glans). It also happens to cause the penis to be pulled into the body (the LOT tug-back). This happens every time a man urinates. It also happens with much greater force, and with rhythmic contractions, when he ejaculates. The BC muscle is the main ejector of semen. This is why ejaculation improves by exercising it.

The other function of the BC is to squeeze blood into the corpus spongiosum and the glans. The bulb of the penis is a reservoir of blood. At the time of greatest arousal voluntary or reflex contractions of the BC and Ischiocavernosus muscles force blood into the corpora. The Ischiocavernosus muscles surround the crura of the penis (legs of the corpora cavernosa). With both sets of muscles contracting on the base and legs of the penis, a maximum erection is achieved.

Locating the BC: The adage about stopping the flow of urine is valid in locating the BC muscle in men. Even though the urethra does have a sphincter (just below the prostate) to stop urine flow, contraction of the BC will "milk" the urethra and let the man know which muscle to use for Kegel's exercise. The BC muscle can also be felt with the fingers by placing them between the scrotum and the anus. Contractions felt through the skin at this point (in the midline) are from the BC muscle. The illustration "P.C. or B.C." below shows the relationship of the PC muscle in men as it passes by the prostate and surrounds the rectum (top two images). It also shows the location of the BC muscle at the base of the penis (two lower images).

Searching the Internet for instructions on how men should do Kegels will bring a wide variety of exercise plans. Some say start with 20 at a sitting, twice a day, and work up to 100 doing them daily for six weeks. Another site suggests working up to 300 per day, holding each contraction for a few seconds, and doing that many every day "for the rest of your life." There's no set answer. Each man must evaluate his situation and exercise accordingly. The plan that starts out gradually, with a few quick squeezes, and work up to a hundred holding each one for a few seconds, sounds like a good one to start with. A few days a week should be enough to evaluate your situation. If you don't notice a change in the force of your ejaculations or the strength of your erections, then more exercise of the BC, not PC, might be in order.

*Here is Kegel's original article for those interested.

homerbenthaven

08-13-05, 10:08 PM

Cool, I was wondering if I was doing the PC (BC) exercises right. I'm still having trouble maintaining holds, but I'll get stronger.

Thanks, DLD.

westla

08-14-05, 12:55 AM

I don't mind this being included here at MOS, but I would like to be credited as the author.

Here (http://www.gyneflex.com/kegel_article.html) is the missing link to the online version of Dr. Kegel's original discussion.

goinfor11x7

08-14-05, 01:47 PM

You're cool, Westla, and very bright.

oned

09-11-05, 04:52 AM

DLD, is it wrong if i'm jump to phase 2 ?

Big_Pimpin

09-20-05, 02:02 AM

I think its best to start on phase one.. atleast do a bit.. why jump the gun.. be patient

Small_Pimpin

09-21-05, 04:27 PM

I hate Big_Pimpin

Mike Flores

09-22-05, 08:59 PM

Hi my name is Mike and I have a real little dick. Can some of you big boys send me pictures of your huge cocks????

Mike Flores

09-22-05, 09:02 PM

hi my name is mike and I have a real tiny little dick, can some of you big boys break me off with some pictures?????

ticoteco

09-30-05, 12:52 PM

DLD,

I paid the membership a few days ago.
I studied the phase 1, and started 2 days ago.
Now I see, in this thread, you suggesting a different (more intense) phase 1 routine, regarding the streches.

How should I do?

One suggestion:
for a newbie, one of the toughest challenges when knowing PE's techniques is exactly being able to separate what is more proven, valid, tested than all bulls.. that there is all over the net. The appearent organization and structure of your method is surely what attracted me in the first place. As I paid and got to read all sections the overall impression was fine (altough some minor bugs). But, this deviation between newbie routine from two different parts of the site, honestly, that really doesnt sound good, makes us insecure of whether we are on the right track or not.

As far as I understood (besides being obvious..) the routine posted in this thread is a more intense one, making gains faster. Why not updating the info in the paid section?? surely everybody agrees to prefere the routine with more agrresive results if are still not being risky. If this "ultra" newbie routine was posted a short while ago, I would naturally believe and understand that there were some natural delay regarding updating the site. But surely that is not the case. The message was posted several months ago, and the routine in the paid section, as of ...2 days ago were not updated yet.

I hope you take these critics in a constructive way. That was my intention. I dont regret for paying the subscription. I just happen to be one of those guys who needs as much as possible confidence regarding the consistence/efficiency of something that I do that consume 30+ minutes daily.

regards
Ticoteco

how to interpret the fact the in the pay site, newbie

RenoRaines

09-30-05, 01:29 PM

Why not updating the info in the paid section?? surely everybody agrees to prefere the routine with more agrresive results if are still not being risky. If this "ultra" newbie routine was posted a short while ago, I would naturally believe and understand that there were some natural delay regarding updating the site. But surely that is not the case. The message was posted several months ago, and the routine in the paid section, as of ...2 days ago were not updated yet.

I agree, it's kind of frustrating to navigate arounds to manually sort out what's the "latest" on the routines and it would be a huge plus to have routines and videos "updated" so you can check when the latest updates are done so that we all can be on top of it :)

RR

BigSwingingDick

10-03-05, 09:01 AM

Great thread.

BigSwingingDick

10-03-05, 09:02 AM

Forgot to ask, if I'm strictly going for length can I cut out the jelqs or should I keep them in for a while.

hopful

10-03-05, 09:20 AM

keep em in for the first month, after that exchange em for some more length exercises. It's not like i wanna make you do unneeded exercises but jelqing conditions you're dick big time and if you jelq for the first month it realy minamises the chance of injurys when doing advanced strech technics later on. I'm advising you this out of expereance. And anyway, jelqing brings you 2/3 girth and 1/3 length I have noticed so it's not a real wast of time if you just want length.

And belive me, those 30 min of jelqing a day are nothing compared to the 2 - 4 weeks of rest time after an injury!

nicksdick

10-04-05, 10:21 PM

What is PC????

svtcm1

10-06-05, 08:17 PM

Thanks for the info!!

NRA

10-11-05, 09:09 AM

Hi everyone :)

I'm a pretty young PE'er so i have alot of homework and other things to look after. Therefore i would like to know:

Is it possible to split up the work and spread it out a bit? For example doing the stretching part when i get home in the afternoon and then doing the jelqs in the evening before i go to bed?

It would suit my time schedule alot better than doing the whole routine at the same time, but I'm worried that the recovery time will get to short.

Thanks in advance ;)

BANANAxBOY

10-22-05, 05:16 PM

hey, can someone tell me how to do rotary cranks, or redirect me somewhere.

crazyed27

10-23-05, 10:11 AM

TheHawaiianStal

11-02-05, 02:46 PM

Hey there everyone, first time posting at the site though I've been a member for nearly a month now though I've only started phase 1 about 3 weeks ago. I'm fairly comfortable with what I'm doing now but still have a few questions about Phase I and in general that you guys can probably help me out.

When do the basic stretch's (down, down to right, down to left, up and crank) am I supposed to be stretching out the actual penis or the base (the ligaments?) as when I first started I felt the actual penis stretching but now that I've gotten more used to doing them it seems I feel much more of a stretch at the base of my penis and along the ligs, especially when pulling down and to the sides. Is this where I'm supposed to be feeling the strain?

Second question I've got is about the jelquing routine, I'm up to 600 a day now and I was wondering how tight a grip I should use? Should I grip it like a vice or just tightly? I usually just grip it tightly but again, I'm not sure if this is the best way to do it.

Another question about jelquing is do I start from where the penis base meets my crotch or where it meets the testicles? When I do the latter I often find myself gripping and pulling uncomfortably on the looser testicle skin at the base of my penis.

One final question is about kegel's (trying to cover all the bases at once). I dont find myself squeezing my anal muscles when doing them anymore but instead find myself squeezing my abs when doing kegels to really get a burn out of them as otherwise they dont feel like they're really getting worked. Is this alright?

Thanks for all the help.

1411paco

11-07-05, 05:47 PM

Hey dld,

What up I'm pretty new to all this but it seems legit....... I had a few questions for u........ When I warm up do I just masage my dick with a warm wash cloth for 5 min? I usually stretch afterwards right b4 I jelq........ What's a crank? Do I grab just the head or under the head when I stretch? Now when I jelq should I go fast or slow which one benefits the length better?...... Cause I've been doing this about a month and a half and it seems only my girth is growing not my lenth...... Should I jelq sitting or standing? Which is better? Now I jelq for 30 min straight every day is that good or should I take breaks in between? Which helps the length more stretching or jelqing? Now when I'm done jelqing I stretch again should it be as intense as b4 I jelqed?....... Srry bout all the questions but I'd appreciate ur response I'm trying to get this all down so I can be successful at it..... Thanks

[P]okey[B]ear

11-07-05, 05:56 PM

Just put a warm rag around it for 5 minutes then stretch and when your finish you jelq. A crank is while stretching it pull it in a circular motion. Crab wherever is comfortable most people grab just below the head. Slow is better in both aspects for jelqing. Stretching will make you gain length so if your not stretching enough you won't gain length. Jelq sitting. Jelq every other day is what I prefer.You don't stretch AFTER jelqing only before. If you are concerned about length I would consider hanging. That is mainly for length and jelqing for girth.

[P]okey[B]ear

11-07-05, 06:09 PM

if you don't get all of what I said just pm me i'll help you with the newbie routine

1411paco

11-08-05, 10:54 AM

Good look p. Bear

So when I do the newbie routine do I have to do all the stretches at once or can I do half in the morning and half at night?......... And I still can't figure out how to do a reverse kegel...... Can u help me? I heard if u do it while fucking u can go longer.....

[P]okey[B]ear

11-08-05, 03:35 PM

stretch all at once 3 sets each exercise. Reverse kegel is simple. I do it like this. I push to start the flow of urine and when I feel it starting to move I stop it. Do like 200 of those a day and your pe muscles will get strong and then start edging *you'll learn these later* you can go longer any day of the week.

1411paco

11-08-05, 06:51 PM

What's edging? So do u mean flex my pc until I gotta pist and then just stop? Is that right?

[P]okey[B]ear

11-09-05, 12:37 AM

edging is stopping during sex or flexing your pe muscles to stop the cum from coming out so you can go longer.

1411paco

11-09-05, 01:16 AM

aiight but still confused about the reverse kegel.....do u mean flex until i feel urine flow? and then flex to stop it?

[P]okey[B]ear

11-09-05, 01:50 AM

push to make it flow flex to stop it

1411paco

11-10-05, 01:14 PM

Hey can I stretch while laying down?

[P]okey[B]ear

11-10-05, 01:26 PM

whatevers comfortable for you just make sure you get a good stretch

asd1

11-15-05, 02:08 AM

hey i just have a small question about the jelquing hand postion.

so its the "OK" symbol, with my palm facing down, so when i grab my junk with that hand style, the finger order should be the thumb and index finger, followed by all the other fingers? (this is coming from the direction of the body out)

so your pinky finger would be the farthest away from you?

or is it where your palm is up, but underneeth your junk? or over your palm is facing down ontop of your junk? srry about the questions, just a lil confused

[P]okey[B]ear

11-15-05, 02:22 AM

I like to have my pinkest closer to me I think it's more comfortable. It's all preferance though.

asd1

11-15-05, 02:42 AM

ok, but regardless where the other fingers are, its all about the index an thumb makind a circle around your dick right?

[P]okey[B]ear

11-15-05, 03:31 AM

yes tight pressure

oneeyedwilly

11-20-05, 10:55 AM

I have been doing stretches that are on the DLD members site i purchased for about a week. The standard

1) Pulling straight down: Once at maximum stretch hold for 30 seconds

2) Pulling straight down to the right: Once at maximum stretch hold for 30 seconds

3) Pulling straight down to the left: Once at maximum stretch hold for 30 seconds

4) Pulling straight up: Once at maximum stretch hold for 30 seconds

5) Cranking Rotary: Once at maximum stretch hold straight in front of you crank or rotate your penis for 30 cranks.

Now here is my question. DLD says his basic newbie routine is this on here

Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

So which one do I do I am very confused? Is this DLD newbie routine designed after you finish phase 1? Any help to this will be much appreciated
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[P]okey[B]ear

11-20-05, 11:39 AM

you do everything there

prince Albert

11-20-05, 11:41 AM

Follow the phase 1 routine

T-Baby

11-26-05, 05:24 PM

This routine kicks ass. Thanks, DLD!!! I'll be sure to properly document and eventually post the gains I've made with this thing. Awesome stuff.

Pappapipe

11-27-05, 10:30 PM

Sorry if this is a silly newbie question, but how hard are you suppose to pull during the newbie streches?

Cool_as_fcuk

11-28-05, 08:28 AM

Sorry if this is a silly newbie question, but how hard are you suppose to pull during the newbie streches?

I would say as hard as you can without causing too much pain, a little is ok for me. Build up to it though until you're confident and acclimated to the pressure.

makeherscream

11-28-05, 05:26 PM

Sorry if this is a silly newbie question, but how hard are you suppose to pull during the newbie streches?

I personally do not like to get more than 50-75% hard. If I get more than that I take a break and wait for 'him' to relax a little. The best workouts that I have had--in my 2 short months--have been when I am UNDER 50% erection. I can then really see the stretch at the base with the ligs and veins.

Hope this answeres your question some!

MHS

mikeoxbig12

11-28-05, 05:49 PM

umm.. im pretty new to this shit.. what does measuring 'bone pressed flacid stretch' mean? and how do you do those rotary cranks that are outlined in that routine.. is it the same as the tension stretch?? if not, how do you do the tension stretch?

mikeoxbig12

11-28-05, 06:01 PM

also, how do you do those stretches.. like a detailed explanation of where to grip, how tight to hold the grip and how far to stretch etc.

dingoman

11-29-05, 06:05 PM

Hey DLD. Not new to PE, about 90 days. Did not take pics when I first started, but was a solid 6.5 length, 5 girth. After 90 days, i'm at 7.5, 6.0. will post pics. I wil only measure every 90 days, and will take girth at 3 different sites, base, mid and below head. anyway, look forward to gaining .

Chi

11-29-05, 06:17 PM

dingoman, congrats, excellent gains so far!

mikeoxbig12, check the newbie forum, start from the top threads, and welcome.

makeherscream

11-29-05, 07:32 PM

also, how do you do those stretches.. like a detailed explanation of where to grip, how tight to hold the grip and how far to stretch etc.

Best $49 investment that you can make is to subscribe to the members area! Trust me--there are detailed videos and explanations of every exercise! I just signed up about a week ago and I was amazed! I have corrected alot of 'flaws' in my stretching routine!

MHS

Questions?

11-29-05, 08:36 PM

yea the member site was a huge help once i became a member

Pappapipe

11-29-05, 11:00 PM

Ok, I just started yesterday. Did the newbie routine for the first time and boy is my member sore. Is this a normal thing and will He get use to it??

ggogeta

12-26-05, 10:55 PM

Nice post! I'm starting on this program right now XD

crazyed27

12-26-05, 10:56 PM

Ok, I just started yesterday. Did the newbie routine for the first time and boy is my member sore. Is this a normal thing and will He get use to it??

He'll get used to it.

Pappapipe

12-27-05, 02:42 PM

Thanks for the reply. What is a "lig pop" and is it a good thing? I have been constant this past month and yesterday I felt a "pop" on the left side (I have a slight bend to the left as well). I guess I would like to know if this is a good thing and if it is what I should be looking for.

Thanks.

ggogeta

01-08-06, 11:48 PM

I gained 0,4 inch (1 cm) nbp in 2 weeks thanks to this routine. Keep it up guys rofl

FatalFlak

01-26-06, 11:44 PM

Great Routine! Just some questions:

I am still confuzed about the order:
Would I start from the top of the list and work down to the bottom, then back up to the top again (x3). Or do I do each individual stretch 3 times consecutively (as if doing the stretch for 90 seconds with breaks, and THEN moving to the next). Or would it really even matter?

Also, about the testicle health section in the newbie routine, the part where you lightly pull the scrotum downwards while pulling the penis upwards, do I pull the whole scrotum downwards by grabbing above my testicles and pulling, or do I just pull on the loose skin underneath my testicles?

And another thing, could someone give me a gauge on the speed I should be using while cranking?... I've been doing about 1 crank per 2 seconds, I get the feeling I would get better gains by doing them slower.

Answers would be greatly appreatiated.

As for other comments, I found this to be the greatest penis enhancement site on the net, I've tried the newbie routine for 3 days in a row now and am already feeling confident that DLD knows how to make a DAMN good routine, if this works out I'll probably be looking into a membership to even further any gains I get from the newbie routine... which is strange for me because I usually never get fully caught up by these things.

Drop me a mail or post a reply! Thanks guys!

philtempleman@hotmail.com

Phil.