Auto Extender--The best attachment yet

[koooky]

Hello all.

Just received my Auto Extender Head attachment from autoextender.com
And I wanted to give everyone my 2 cents on this product from a day one perspective.

First all, for those of you currently with a PenisMaster or JEs or a Vimax and you have been concerned about attaching a noose or band around the glans, look no further. Imagine a Bib Hanger with the Extender.

The soft padding on the insides of the clam-shell design are awesome and you can wear it well with no wrap. One problem though, and I am sure this will change with usage, is knowing how tight you have to band it down in order for it to be tight enough not to slip, but not to tight to make things go numb. A small problem for sure as I am positive this can be tweaked just like a Bib.

Another added bonus, you can hang small amount of weight with this as well(up to 5 pounds) and you can also stack gold weights with it as well.

The best thing so far is the wrap that DOES come with it! OMG! This is the best stuff since sliced bread and * inches NBP! You have to go to the web page to check out this wrap! My only concern is how durable it is. It seems pretty resistant after one days use, but lets see how it holds up after mopnths of use.

Over all, I would give this product an A+ in design. I am very surprised that the commerical extenders haven't jumped on this idea of attachment. It seems that once you get the tightness and adjustments figured out(just like a BIB) that it will only mean great things for you and your extenders future together.

Kooky--the one and only


PS...I am not here pimping this product. In fact, this guy mostly hangs out at Thunders and to my knowledge has never been here. I only share it here as I know the extenders are popular here and I like to give credit where credit is du for a product.

[matts22]

That's very interesting. I might have to buy the replacement head for my Vimax extender, which is very uncomfortable.

[koooky]

I really don't think you will regret it. You will have to wait until the guy settles in from his new move to order(sometime next week) but I think it is well worth it. Also, you may want to wait until he is finished with his size mod. He will soon be seling 3 sizes to accomadate diff girth sizes. Hell, the wrap alone makes my regular PM attachment 100 times more comfortable. Go to Thunders and type "Auto Extender" in the search log to find all the info about it.

Kooky

[TomdW]

The products look great. I think I'm going to buy the ADH system when I have the money.

[KingD]

What is the website address for the part? Is there a picture of it?

[koooky]

It should be autoextender.com.

There are plenty of pics.
Make sure you look around a lot and find the pics of the wrap as well.
The wrap is hands down the best stuff I have ever seen or tried and I am looking
forward to using it with my Bib.

kook

[matts22]

Does the head to use with a Vimax extender look like the red ones on the website? If not, can you post a picture?

Also, is the wrap re-usable? If not, what is it like?

[Janesripper]

So is it a whole extender, are is it just a head piece, its hard too tell?

[koooky]

Ok guys...here is the link that shows JUST the modified head for people who already own the extender of their choice.

http://www.autoextender.com/modified.htm

It also shows a great pic of the wrapping material that I am going on about.
The wrap is a soft-silicone material that clings to itslef and is very skin like. I think is is the best wrap you can find.

Yes, it is reusable. I am not sure if it is cleanable though but I imagine it is with a little warm water.

kooky

[TomdW]

That wrap does look good. The whole site looks pretty well thought out.

[ElGeorgio]

Ok guys...here is the link that shows JUST the modified head for people who already own the extender of their choice.

http://www.autoextender.com/modified.htm

It also shows a great pic of the wrapping material that I am going on about.
The wrap is a soft-silicone material that clings to itslef and is very skin like. I think is is the best wrap you can find.

Yes, it is reusable. I am not sure if it is cleanable though but I imagine it is with a little warm water.

kooky



Hey Kooky, Did you just buy the head attachment for your PM? You said that you found than PM device far more comfortable with the new Head attachment. on a scale of 1-10, 1 being poor, 10 being very good. How much would you say the comfort zone has increased?

Does this Head attachment allow you wear the PM for periods than 90 minuets? Also can have a piss without removing the PM device from your pecker.

[koooky]

Yeah. I just got the attachment for my PM. It was far more comfortable but due to the small size, I am not able to wear it for very long. I should have done more research and waited until he came out with his new modded versions for size...Small, Medium, and large. That's what I would recomend to anyone now after having it for awhile. The upside is, the wrap alone makes the regular PM head attachment much more bearable. I am able to wear it for like 2-3 hours at a time. I am looking forward to when he is done with his size modification to order the proper size. Also, to be fair, the guy who makes these is great with personal service and emails. But, he is in the middle of a move right now and is not doing business or shipping/emailing until the 13th of this month.

kook

[matts22]

I'm thinking about ordering one, so let us know when he comes out with the new sized attachments.

[koooky]

I will try and let everyone know. In all honesty, I wish I would have read up more and waited myself. Live and learn I guess. I think the one I have would be fine once I get it tweaked right just like a Bib. But I will still most likely order a bigger size once it comes out. I will try and find and post pics of the 3 demo models.

kooky

[koooky]

Ok guys. I found the pice of the prototypes for the 3 new sizes. According to the web site, they should be out mid-to late May. I will keep everyone posted and maybe I can talk him into coming over here and talking to us sometime.

Kooky

http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=47923&page=6&pp=15&highlight=Auto+Extender

[VeryShyGuy]

fI have one of these puppies and it is great ... by far the best extender out on the market :)

[KingD]

Do the modified head come in different sizes for the PM also?

[koooky]

Yeah..those pics above are the prototypes for the attachment for the PM/Jes?whatever.

I don't think they are completely ready yet but I will keep everyone informed of when the release date is going to be.

koooky

[matts22]

I emailed him to ask what size to get for the modified head for the JES extender, and he told me that only one size was available because the modified head is larger and the JES extender's base is different. It is supposed to be good up to 5" flaccid girth, so it should be ok for most if not all of us. By the way, I have a Vimax extender, but it is the same as the JES, which is why I asked him about that (since it is more well known). So for those of you thinking that more than one size of the modified head will be available, it will not. Yes, there will be a newer version, but only one size. Just to clear things up. I think I'm going to order one soon. I can't stand the attachment as is. Still liking yours koooky?

[Gimme9]

I stopped using the Vimax I ordered just days after I got it. It was just too much pain, too much adjusting, too much work. Getting it tight enough to feel a decent stretch pinched and burned and made the head purple and numb, so into the drawer it went!
I just ordered the modified head AND the weights so I can hang at work and stretch during the evening. I am SO psyched to be getting back into this. My PE is finally getting back on track, it's gonna be great to use some of the tools I've spent so much on!

[monkeybar]

Hi all. I'm the maker of Autoextender devices. I've been here before but havent posted as I was waiting for something. But now I'm getting too much email so I'll answer some questions here.

I was going to start a new thread, but ride on this one - Thank Kooky. Note, this could be long.

There are actually 3 products on my website (please note that my website hasn't been updated as I haven't had the time - the current ones are in there 3 generation/improvement so whats on my website is bit dated). Here are product descriptions:

1) AutoEXT - complete extender device - includes head/base,rod, turner, etc.
2) Modified head - this is head only and was designed to fit into PM/JES/Vimax, etc. Whatever its call, its all same as I haven't found one that was different.
3) AutoADH - All day hanger - this one is currently discontinued. Its being redesigned at this point. This product will be re-introduced in the future as I'm incorporating strap option on this one (meaning use strap around the waist or knee as well as using small weight). The new design will look completely different than what it looks like on my website.
4) AutoHanger - This is new item that will be coming out - it will be designed for heavier weight hanging, i.e. 15lb.

Okay some of you know me, but those that don't - here's my take on my device...

1) its not a magic pill - so don't expect it. It was designed after my frustration with what was on the market.
2) Don't use my product alone - will work, but takes longer. You should have a complete PE regiment. I don't care what it is - jelq, stretch, other device - you need to shock the ligs in order to stretch.
3) Each system was designed for particular use - modified head was not designed to be used with weight (I know some of you do).

Again, I'm a fellow PE'er and been doing it for 5+ years - so listen to experts on this board. Before I developed my system, I've spent about $2000 on other products but wasn't happy with. Out of all that, the only one I still use now is very good pump. My routine typically involve manual/my devices/pump.

One thing I like to mention about Modified head that people might not be familiar with - PM/JES/etc limitation still exist as there rod/base is not changed. The head replacement was made as stop-gap solution to people who did not want to spend lot of money. Unfortunately, few people that ordered the modified head place another order for full system later on.

If you have any question, feel free to post here and I'll answer best as I can.

Cheers

[REDZULU2003]

superb stuff

[matts22]

Mines on the way, I'll be sure to let you guys know what I think.

[matts22]

Just got it today....all I can say is wow....soooo much more comfortable. And for those of you maxing out the JES extender bars, the modified head makes the max much higher do to its design (so it will stretch to a longer length). Anyway, I've been using the wrapping material (awesome stuff, get some) and the modified head and I can wear it for at least an hour no problem at all. It needs a little adjusting (kinda tight) but overall, for $70 or whatever it is, I highly recommend it.

As a side note, I also bought a power jelq device, and I have been very pleased with it as well. I will continue to do normal jelqs but since there is no cleanup, this allows me to do small but intense sets throughout the day.

I think to keep myself motivated, I might start a log on July 1st. I just can't keep up everything, and if I have to write it down, I might do it more. Anyway, just wanted to let you guys know what I thought of these products. Hope it helps.

[hhh1]

Monkeybar/Anyone-

What is the best way to incorporate using the aoutoextender into a standard newbie routine (manual stretches/Jelqs/kegals - 2 days on, 1 off)?

Thanks in advance

[matts22]

No clue on the best method.

I've been trying to manual stretch in the morning, wear the extender over lunch for an hour, also for an hour when i get home. Then I do jelqs and later manual stretches followed by 1-2 additional hours with the extender. This seems ok, but I haven't done it long enough to report anything.

[monkeybar]

Initially, the best way is to train your jr. Try using the device at short interval at fairly high force. Don't over do it. You are trying to train your shaft, pain tolerence and skin near the base (this need to be stretch also in order to stretch the ligs), and not to set some record. Do it for 5, 10, 15, etc.

Once you are trained. You'll need to shock your ligs. This means that for 1st stretching session of the day, you'll want to stretch for maximum amount - as much as you can stretch. Most likely you'll feel the skin near the base stretch - and it will feel like a bitch (thats why you need to train first). Do it for 10 minutes at a time for 3 to 4 session (about 45min to 1 hour). You could also replace this session with very hard manual stretching or hanging with heavier weight.

For the rest of the day (as time allowed), you want to stretch lightly. Enough so that it is fully stretched and you are able to hang for 30-60 minutes. At this point you are doing ADS.

Experiment. There are no set way to do this. Some people only do the max stretching and others only do ADS. You need to discover what works for you as what worked for me doesn't mean you'll get same result.

As mentioned in previous message, you can't really do the max stretching with modified head - as PM/JES, etc base and rod can only go so far. The problem with their base is that if you put longer rod for max stretch, you may not be able to attach the head to their rod. So do something else if you have the modified head.

Cheers


Monkeybar/Anyone-

What is the best way to incorporate using the aoutoextender into a standard newbie routine (manual stretches/Jelqs/kegals - 2 days on, 1 off)?

Thanks in advance

[matts22]

Maybe I am just the right size or something, but I can always get into it and go into max stretch if need be (with the JES/Vimax extender and modified head). If you just slowly stretch out like the extender would do and slip on one side at a time, it is pretty easy. Then just extend all the way until it goes no further.

[joe71]

Hi.
This my first post here and I'd like to ask if anyone knows to what maximum length the AutoEXT can extend my penis to. (I've read that the Penimaster extends to 13 in. or something like that I think)

I'm already at about 8.5in. stretched flaccid and would like a bit more since I'm 6foot2in. tall (Don't want 13inches though! LOL)

Also the picture of the AutoEXT on the main page shows 3 sets of different shaped rods yet on the order page it says something different and the owner also alludes to there being an 8in. and 32in. rod pair (the latter of which we can manually cut to size).

Does anyone personally know which rod set is provided?

P.S. I will be buying the AutoEXT package (not the modified head).

Thanks in Advance.

Joe.

[monkeybar]

There is no limit as to how long - in theory. 32 inchs? Wow - I'll be walking around naked all the time :)

The supplied rods are 5,6, and 7 inches. This means that it should stretch to about 9" (because where it grabs). One of the rod could be replaced with 10" (which will give you 12" stretch). You could also buy the rod - its standard 8/32 size.

Cheers


Hi.
This my first post here and I'd like to ask if anyone knows to what maximum length the AutoEXT can extend my penis to. (I've read that the Penimaster extends to 13 in. or something like that I think)

I'm already at about 8.5in. stretched flaccid and would like a bit more since I'm 6foot2in. tall (Don't want 13inches though! LOL)

Also the picture of the AutoEXT on the main page shows 3 sets of different shaped rods yet on the order page it says something different and the owner also alludes to there being an 8in. and 32in. rod pair (the latter of which we can manually cut to size).

Does anyone personally know which rod set is provided?

P.S. I will be buying the AutoEXT package (not the modified head).

Thanks in Advance.

Joe.

[joe71]

Thanks Monkeybar!

Joe.

[REDZULU2003]

Do you have any discounts for the members here?

[monkeybar]

Do you have any discounts for the members here?

Unfortunately I'm not one of the big manufacturer that could do things in economy of scale. In fact, if I calculate my time, I actually lose money. If people ordering the product put MOS on the order page (there is a message colume in paypal), I'll donate portion to MOS (this only apply to AutoEXT, not the modified head as its almost at cost).

Thanks

[KingD]

Yo Monkeybar!! When do you thing you will have the new ADH ready for purchase?

[monkeybar]

It will be another month. I'm so burnt-out from last re-design, I'm taking it easy. Sorry about that.

[REDZULU2003]

Thats a very kind gesture, thank you very much for that offer.

[KingD]

Yo Monkerbar!! How's the new design coming along for the ADH? Do you have a prototype pic you can show us?

[KingD]

Wuz Up Kooky!!!! How's things going with your new head attachment? Let me knowabout some of your experiences with it.

[REDZULU2003]

I will save for one of these extenders.

[VeryShyGuy]

Its worth it Red , i have one and its so easy to use and wear and very fair price too i might add :)

[REDZULU2003]

I'm interested because all the extenders I've used I cant wear them for longer than 2 hours non-stop, which IMHO is limiting gains.
One can still gain if they wear a extender for say 2 hours per day but its best to wear one for 10-12 hours in succession to maximize the gains.
This theory is true for alot of the human body when it grows and heals itself.
A example is the detached retana surgery, in which they place a gass ball inside the eye, behind it and the patient has to lie on a certain position [posture its called] for 50 mins of every 60 mins for say many weeks before they can actually start normal life. This includes having only 10 mins for meals ect ect.
During the rest period the body HEALS and GROWS new tissue and structures around and inside the eye, and the retina can be healed and a full or nearly full recovery made. It shows clearly that bad success is in those who dont stay in the posture for the given time and hence they dont give their body the right time to heal and grow.
Now why do I mention this in here? well its all related to this as the same principal applies to extenders use [torsion] on the penis, with the longer you can safely have the torsion applied to the penis the better the growth and healing.
2 hours per day wont suffice to what 10-12 hours can provide.
How do I know about the eyes? I have had dealings with it in my line of work.
Now this next question is aimed at anyone who uses this newish device.
As I wonna go for 10-12 hours extended non-stop, and I cant with other extenders because of circulation issues with the noose ect, so does this new device actually allow the user to go longer without the discomfort? How does it feel on the penis and glans 'head'? and has anyone or would anyone be willing to test/sample going in the extender for upto aslong as they can manage? i.e 10-12 hours.

[monkeybar]

Now this next question is aimed at anyone who uses this newish device.
As I wonna go for 10-12 hours extended non-stop, and I cant with other extenders because of circulation issues with the noose ect, so does this new device actually allow the user to go longer without the discomfort? How does it feel on the penis and glans 'head'? and has anyone or would anyone be willing to test/sample going in the extender for upto aslong as they can manage? i.e 10-12 hours.

The answer is - no. There are no devices that will give you 10-12 hours straight. Our physiology just wasn't design that way (wish it had a hook) so devices have to have some sort of grabbing mechanism (which leads to constricting blood flow).

Even with my AutoADH, I'm not able to go more than 4 hours, which uses much less force. But I do agree with healing in extended state.

[VeryShyGuy]

Yea i can wear mine for 2 hours straight but i havent been wearing mine that long i only extend 3 hours a day when i can.

[REDZULU2003]

Yeah I should have added that you take a break now and again for circulation.
If it isnt too tight than you should be able to go longer than in a noose 'cos its gripping and constricting the shaft area, unlike this which seems to look like its padding and gently compressing the area.
Feedback on how long users can go in the extender version is much appreciated.
Anyone who uses it report how it feels on your penis, glans etc and how long you can go in it before it feels uncomfortable, if at all.

[monkeybar]

For those users that bought AutoEXT - upgrade is now available.

This only apply to those that have the older version (silicone cushion have bumps on them). There is now two version - small and large. The small version is larger than previous version and larger one is geared toward very large girth (4" or larger FLACID).

The upgrade basically replace all items, minus the threaded rod. Feel free to send me email if you have questions.

Thanks

[KingD]

How are things looking on the new design for the ADH?

[monkeybar]

Sorry, I've been slacking with AutoADH development. Enjoying the sun too much. I'm back on it pretty hard now. It will be end of august/early September. Sorry for the delay.

[KingD]

Does anyone have a pic of hem using the modified head attachment piece for the penismaster? I'm trying to get a good idea of it's size while in use.

[jake6789]

First I would like to second zulu's concern. I can only go about 1 hr in my PM. So feedback on the comfort/duration issue would be greatly appreciated. Secondly, I would like to know how big this attachment is. It looks rather big, which concealing is always a huge issue for these devices, or at least for me. I was thinking about getting rid of my jeans and just wearing jogging pants 24/7, but I can't think of a legitimate reason why I would all of a sudden give up jeans...

[monkeybar]

I don't recommend wearing the AutoEXT under cloth - or for that matter, any type of extender style devices. You really need some free movement and/or side play when worned under clothing. The AutoEXT is larger than PM (because way it grabs the shaft - it not flat like PM).

I can't really comment on how long you could wear them as many people have different experiences. Some could go for 2-3 hours (or longer) and other can only go for 1/2 hour. It depends on how trained you are and what stage your are with PE.

Only thing I can comment is that most of my customers are previous PM/JES owners. Based on their comments, it seems to be better for them and they are now using it, whereas before it was in there closet.

One other thing that people seem to not understand. You can't do max stretching on PM/JES. This is due to the limitation of their rod system. If its too long, you can't attach the head as you can't pull your penis that far.

In my opinion, this is serious draw to their system as I think max stretching should be essential part of your routine. Without this, there is no shock to your ligs which means slower gains.

The other thing thats different between the two system is what its stretching. With AutoEXT, you could really feel the ligs stretching (you could feel it with your fingers). The PM stretch more of a shaft. While gains are possible by pulling the shaft (and to some degree, ligs), most of the gains will come from stretched ligs.

If you are looking for something to be worned under clothing, I'll have something out in September (redesigned AutoADH). There are few others (PEweight comes to mind). These system should be supplemented to your PE routine. Once you shock your ligs with AutoEXT (or hanging/hard manual stretch), then wear the ADS system under clothing. This is how I made my gains - you need to shock your ligs and repair it in extended state using ADS.

Again, everyone is different and I don't pretend that its for everyone. You just have to go with your gut feeling, unfortunately (try to get that from these vendors that promised you'll have 1-3" in a 3 months).

If you are happy with PM/JES, then don't change anything. Its hard to find something that you could use.

Hope that helps.


First I would like to second zulu's concern. I can only go about 1 hr in my PM. So feedback on the comfort/duration issue would be greatly appreciated. Secondly, I would like to know how big this attachment is. It looks rather big, which concealing is always a huge issue for these devices, or at least for me. I was thinking about getting rid of my jeans and just wearing jogging pants 24/7, but I can't think of a legitimate reason why I would all of a sudden give up jeans...

[jake6789]

Hey thanks for the quick response monkeybar, I also appreciate your honesty and your in depth explanation. I look forward to your ADS product, that is what I bought the PM for, out of ignorance thinking I could wear it as a fairly comfortable and concealable ADS. With your prototype, can you actually wear it all day? Is it comfortable? Concealable? If all of these things are true, and if it really pulls the ligs, you will be swamped with orders once word gets out. Thats what people are looking for, I know I surely am. Please PM me or E-mail me once you have this device in production, as I am surely interested :)

BTW, you kind of lost me when you said this:


One other thing that people seem to not understand. You can't do max stretching on PM/JES. This is due to the limitation of their rod system. If its too long, you can't attach the head as you can't pull your penis that far.

What do you mean by this? The PM can go up to 11 inches I believe, and if you are that big, why would you not be able to attach your head or get max stretching? Just a little confused on the concept you are trying to convey...

[Kal-el]

I just received my modified head attachment today, so I really can't comment on it yet. I will say this- the shipping on it was real expedient. It seems like I get a better stretch with it than the regular PM attachment. My question is this- Is it normal to remove a few of the extension rods when applying This modified head attachment?

[monkeybar]

Yes, you need to. It grabs the shaft at lower point than PM head (and avoid those nerves).

Unfortunately, you can't do max stretching on modified head. The PM base and rod is the limiting factor. You should definitely feel the ligs though... you'll know the difference in couple of days :)

Couple of people sent me email - why they can't do max stretching on PM/JES with modified head or original head? Hard to explain if you don't have one, but those that have the system know that if you put too long of rod, you can't attach them (you have to manually pull the penis to end of the rod). You could go with smaller rod - but the problem is that those springs on JES/PM only go down 1 1/2". So you basically have 1 1/2" to play with... might be good for light stretching, but what if you want to go higher - let say 2". Hopefully you get the point. Mine might not look elegant, but it will do the job.

As for the ADS, you can't do max stretching on any ADS. It wasn't designed for that purpose. The only thing that could do max stretching is AutoEXT or Hanger for any relative time (like 10-15 minutes sessions at max - you could do very hard manual streching also, but you'll get tired after couple of minutes).

I'm trying very hard on the redesign so that less break is needed - you still have to take a break (after all you are still squeezing your jr), but less.

Again, if you are happy with your current routine - stay with it. Make some gains, you already spent lot of money. You could always upgrade later.


I just received my modified head attachment today, so I really can't comment on it yet. I will say this- the shipping on it was real expedient. It seems like I get a better stretch with it than the regular PM attachment. My question is this- Is it normal to remove a few of the extension rods when applying This modified head attachment?

[Kal-el]

Originally posted by monkeybar
Yes, you need to. It grabs the shaft at lower point than PM head (and avoid those nerves).

Thanks monkey bar!


Unfortunately, you can't do max stretching on modified head. The PM base and rod is the limiting factor. You should definitely feel the ligs though... you'll know the difference in couple of days

I think I Can do max stretching. I don't know maybe I'm wrong here, but I get a more intense stretch with this head attachment than using the regular pm.

[KingD]

Yo Kal-el!!! Is your new head attachment more or less noticeable under clothing than your original? How is the wrap that came with your new head piece working out for you? If you are able to, can you provide a pic of you using the new head attachment piece on your PM, so I can get a good idea of it's size compared to your original. I would appreciate it alot. HOLLA!!!

[KingD]

Hey Monkeybar!! I see that you can hang weights with the PM modified head piece, but can you use it as an aide in your length stretching sessions? Is the grip strong enough for me to use it to stretch my penis in length sessions without injuring the head of my penis?

[monkeybar]

You could actually use the head free style. Just drill a small hole where the rod goes (on both sides) and attach a nylon string. You could use very light weight (less than 5lb) or just pull it with your feet or hand. I do that sometimes.

The grip can be harder than what you can do with your hand (hand gets tired fast) - the head clamp put most pressure on the side, so it relatively more safe than noose or straps. Its a good complement device, but still do your manual stretching too.

If you want to stretch for longer period (more than 1 hour), then ADS device is the answer.

[Kal-el]

Originally posted by King D
Yo Kal-el!!! Is your new head attachment more or less noticeable under clothing than your original? How is the wrap that came with your new head piece working out for you? If you are able to, can you provide a pic of you using the new head attachment piece on your PM, so I can get a good idea of it's size compared to your original. I would appreciate it alot. HOLLA!!!

I only wear it for 1 hour, and in the privacy of my home. So I can't contest on its inconspicuosness. As for the wrap, I don't particularly care for the wrap that came with it, so I use a cutt-off shirt sleeve. I don't own a digital camera, so I can't post any pics.

[REDZULU2003]

Question for both maker and users.
Is the AutoEXT better feeling around the glans than say other extender devices such as the JES and Max Extender?
I need feedback on these issues before I make the move and purchase one.
My aim is to use one for many hours and take small breaks each hour and if it feels alright and I dont get circulation issues than I will wear it all night, surely with its head attachment it isnt like a noose and one could wear these things for many hours with no issues? unlike a noose which is a pain in the arse without messing about with wraps and other shit to get it right.

[monkeybar]

Answers are below...


Question for both maker and users.
Is the AutoEXT better feeling around the glans than say other extender devices such as the JES and Max Extender?

***Feeling is different as one is noose/strap and mine is clamp.

I need feedback on these issues before I make the move and purchase one.
My aim is to use one for many hours and take small breaks each hour

***This is correct way to use it - session then break to get circulation back. No different than others.

and if it feels alright and I dont get circulation issues than I will wear it all night, surely with its head attachment it isnt like a noose and one could wear these things for many hours with no issues?

****You cannot wear it all night. You should not wear any device all night. You should be aware and in control at all times.

unlike a noose which is a pain in the arse without messing about with wraps and other shit to get it right.

****They are all pain in the arse. Its just different degree of pain.



I have a feeling that you are looking for something different than what my device could do. If you are looking to wear it all day - try an ADS device.

Cheers

[Kal-el]

Red, I would'nt wear it all night. I think it feels better on the glans than Any other extender. I doubt that you could wear this many hours without circulation problems, I only wear it 1 hour, and by that time, my glans are dark purple. If you only wear it an hour a time, then you should be fine.

[REDZULU2003]

Thats hard to belive, with all respect I think I could extract more than one hour in it non-stop....I can go 2 hours in the max extender which is a noose so this auto extender should be the bees knees.....I also think its not advised to go many hours in a extender because of the circulation issues, but if you have the experience like myself and know your body well than you can find ways around that and make it work better than it would say for a newbie.

[Kal-el]

Thats hard to belive, with all respect I think I could extract more than one hour in it non-stop....I can go 2 hours in the max extender which is a noose so this auto extender should be the bees knees.....I also think its not advised to go many hours in a extender because of the circulation issues, but if you have the experience like myself and know your body well than you can find ways around that and make it work better than it would say for a newbie.

I meant that I could only do 1 hour with it because I always stretch as hard as possible. My problem is it really irritates the base, even though I have Dr. Scholl's moleskin covering it?

[REDZULU2003]

Okay, I see now.

[monkeybar]

I meant that I could only do 1 hour with it because I always stretch as hard as possible. My problem is it really irritates the base, even though I have Dr. Scholl's moleskin covering it?

Kal-el, do you have the modified head or AutoEXT? The base of AutoEXT is larger and more anatomically designed, so it should be little better. Also, if you are still having problem with the base (for AutoEXT), give me a couple of weeks and I'll have the redesigned silicone bottom.

Red, I usually only recommend short sessions as most users are not quite trained for longer session. I've been PE'ing for almost six years and I'm able to stretch for over 3 hours at a time (not max, but enough). I just don't want to give an impression that you could stretch for 3 hours if your jr is not trained (its all relative). As you could imagine, it could cause me lot more grief.

Cheers.

[Kal-el]

Monkeybar, I own the modified head attachment. I have a penimaster base, around the base I padded it with Dr. Scholl's moleskin, and after an hour of wearing it, I still experience some burning.

[monkeybar]

Monkeybar, I own the modified head attachment. I have a penimaster base, around the base I padded it with Dr. Scholl's moleskin, and after an hour of wearing it, I still experience some burning.

Send me a PM so I know who you are. Maybe I'll do a silicone add on for PM. Only problem is that I'd lost my PM - anyone want to loan me the base? I'll give you a free modified head.

[REDZULU2003]

I understand what your saying MB

[KingD]

I'll loan you my base Monkeybar!!! A free head attachment piece would be bomb right about now. I have the same problem with my stretcher. I also have noticed that my girth is starting to be wider than the base allows. The rods are starting to push outwards alittle bit. PM me Monkeybar about the base!! HOLLA BACK!!

[KingD]

Yo Monkeybar!! The new ADH is going to be like a Tugger system meets your head gripper attachment piece right? How unnoticeable is the new system under clothing compared to the older version of your ADH? Do you have a pic you can show us?

[monkeybar]

Yo Monkeybar!! The new ADH is going to be like a Tugger system meets your head gripper attachment piece right? How unnoticeable is the new system under clothing compared to the older version of your ADH? Do you have a pic you can show us?

No they don't look anything like Tugger. The pics will be posted in 1st week of Sept when its for sale. I'm still doing lot of modification.

Cheers.

[iwant8inches]

monkeybar, I no longer feel much lig pull when I do manual stretching straight out or straight out and slightly down. I've been PEing for a year and a half now and have hanged for the last 7 months. When stretching the penis whilst putting the AutoEXT on will the penis be facing straight out or straight out and slightly down? Just trying to see if this will be really uncomfortable using the extender while stretched to the maximum. One reason I stopped manual was that my hands no longer seemed to be strong enough to get a reaction/max pull. Also, is the head that comes with the regular package for the AutoExtender the same as the head attachment you sell separately? Thanks man.

[monkeybar]

The position is movable - any point between 180 degrees. In addition, it could be fixed at any angle - you just need to tighten the rod into the plastic housing. As for the head, the head design is very similar, except slight difference in size (and rod attachment is very different).

However, max stretching can only be done with the complete package. This is due to the limitation of the rod in other system (I know lot of people think they do that with PM/JES base, but its quite different - we're talking about quite a difference in pressure). The system is what you make of it - as mentioned before, you could even drill a small hole on the head to do some variation hanging - like over the leg and over the shoulder, etc. The key is to change your routine every couple of months as your jr will become accustome to particular stretching.

If you are thinking about buying the system - wait couple of weeks. I would love to sell the stuff now, but it will save you some money as I'll have the package deal soon - both EXT and ADH together. I think together, these two system will provide a complete package to do heavier stretching, follow by light stretching - "all day - really"

I'll put the AutoADH info in another thread.

[monkeybar]

Here's some AutoADH news (the name will now change to AutoADS),

As most of know I took the AutoADH off the market. Although lot of people liked it, I just wasn't happy with it. Well after about 15 different design, I think I have something that I like.

There were few problems with the previous version of AutoADH and this problem wasn't limited to my product (competing products had similar problems).

Some of these problemse were -
1) not very stealthy (can wear it under cloth, but its still pronounced due to the size of the weight - The smallest weight I found was golf weight, but even this was too big - my weights were bigger than this)
2) not comfortable enough (which limit hang time),
3) need to use a wrap (don't have to, but it makes it more comfortable)
4) no good sitting down (I work in an office environment and seated all day - weight just plop on to the seat).
5) Weight sometimes slip (embarrasing situation?).

The new system is now weight free and is strap based (strap to knee or any other place where you could put the strap). Here are some details,

1) strap based
2) No plastic parts - everything is now covered in soft silicone.
3) comfortable - really.
4) can use in up or sitting position.
5) Can use 10 hours per day - take a break every 2-4 hours.
6) If it silps, nothing will drop.

Here is the really good part - Its stealthy. If you are 4" flaccid, with the system on, it will be about 4.5" Its un-noticeble.

That it for now, the pictures will be posted in about 2 weeks.

Cheers.

[iwant8inches]

hmm...good things...

How much of a difference in price will the new package be compared to the current/older one? Is it pretty much worth it to get the newer one regardless of whether or not you want both devices? If it's over 250 for the new package then I'm going to order the older package. Definitely ordering one of your products though.

[LOUROCKS]

the attachment they are selling now is the first one on the right ???i ordered one and i have the sizegenetics got it off ebay ..........lets see how it goes????....also i have a pump at home and a cock ring throw this in wit some natural pe workouts hopefully ill get some muthafuckin results ...............................holla

[monkeybar]

hmm...good things...

How much of a difference in price will the new package be compared to the current/older one? Is it pretty much worth it to get the newer one regardless of whether or not you want both devices? If it's over 250 for the new package then I'm going to order the older package. Definitely ordering one of your products though.


Older package was $200, which is not available at all.

The new package will be less than that. Those that already have AutoADH will get a special pricing. Those that have the AutoEXT will also get a discounted pricing since their purchase is funding my development.

By the way, there is a 3rd product that will be ready around same time. Its a new ball stretcher - a by product of new AutoADS.

[iwant8inches]

I was actually referring to the basic SutoExtender that is like 139 dollars or something. That is no longer available or did I not make myself clear. I tend to do that. That's all I want to buy is the extender device. The ball stretcher would be nice though too.

[iwant8inches]

So max stretching can only be acheived with what? The AutoExtender and what else would I need? I have my funds in my paypal account and was hoping to buy the extender, but after reading a few posts above by monkeybar I think I don't understand why I wouldn't be able to get max stretching by the autoextender alone...???help me out here though because I thought the autoexender is all I needed for max stretching?

[monkeybar]

Sorry I guess I didn't understand the question 1st time.

Yes, thats all you need. The max pressure that I recorded was equivalent to 8lb - although you can't go too long on this. The best is to go for about 3-5lb (about max) and do 5-10 minutes session for 1-2 hours total. Yes your head will turn cold, so take a break. Thats about the right amount of time for lig tear - then do light stretching rest of time.

One of the reason why I've mention to wait is that you really need to do ADS after this. If you work from home, then extender is all you need, but if you work in office environment (or anywhere where you are not doing tons of moving about) - you'll need something else. Extenders (everyone of them) are bit of pain to use out of the house. In addition, because the way extenders are built, you can only go for so long before break. Mine is not an exception - the only difference between mine and others are the way it grabs and the max stretching.

There is lot of talk about ADS recently and I truly do believe that you need these after an intense workout. In several occasions, I actually had a shrinkage after very intense workout. Your body is trying to repair what was stretched and will try to retract back - its normal physiology.

I'm not trying to sell you more stuff (you could use/buy any other ADS), but thats why I always had ADS along with my extender for sale.

Currently I'm wearing the new AutoADS for 10 hours a day (about 1-2 hour break total in between). During the normal day - my jr's length vary as much as 2" - with ADS, its always stretched and my flacid length shows.

Let me know if have more questions.


So max stretching can only be acheived with what? The AutoExtender and what else would I need? I have my funds in my paypal account and was hoping to buy the extender, but after reading a few posts above by monkeybar I think I don't understand why I wouldn't be able to get max stretching by the autoextender alone...???help me out here though because I thought the autoexender is all I needed for max stretching?

[iwant8inches]

All right. I probably only will buy the the all day stretcher then. I will try to buy some golf weights and use those for a sort of ADS when I leave the house for work or school. Not in combination of course... I'll be at my house though for a good 60-70% of the day and I could wear it every day for a long time. I have a Bib hanger the bigger version of Bib's product line but I'm sure I'll be able to figure out how to work myself into stretching many hours a day and doing manual work for about 30 minutes a day. I just can't hang anymore due to some anxiety and lack of will power. I haven't really seen any gains from 7 months of it and it seems like I took a step back recently in progress.

[KingD]

Hey Monkeybar!! Can your new ball stretcher be worn with other devices without complication? Can it be worn while being active(walking, running etc.)? I wish I could see the new ADS on your website.

[monkeybar]

Hey Monkeybar!! Can your new ball stretcher be worn with other devices without complication? Can it be worn while being active(walking, running etc.)? I wish I could see the new ADS on your website.

Not sure what you mean by with other device - do you mean with extender? Please explain so I understand.

The pictures will be uploaded in few days. Sorry its taking so long - although device will look deceptively simple, its pain in the butt to make them. I'm trying to work out the production issues right now (at current rate, I could make 2 per every 4 hours, which is not acceptable).

[LOUROCKS]

u have a device to strech ball???

[monkeybar]

I'm developing it now - along with the new AutoADS (it was a by product).

It was a fluke - as I was developing the new AutoADS, I noticed that if I make one part longer, you could do ADS on your ball.

As for the previous message - I'd tried the new AutoADS and the ball stretcher together - it works! Not sure if I want to do it together though - as there isn't too much skin between the ball and the shaft of penis.

As for the comfort - there is no comparison between this and metal weight or parachute type of stretcher. Those things hurt like a bitch.




u have a device to strech ball???

[iwant8inches]

hey monkeybar! Nice product man. I really am enjoying this thing right now. I hope I can gain nicely with it along with hanging and jelqing.

[iwant8inches]

monkeybar, one question about the rods...i got one set that is 5 inches long one that is 6 inches and one set that is about 7 inches long. Obviously the penis is going to stretch longer than the rods are, but it said on the site one long pair of rods would be included that you could cut down yourself. Nothing wrong with what i got but I was just wondering if this is a regular occurence for people to get rod sets that measure the same as mine. thanks.

[monkeybar]

monkeybar, one question about the rods...i got one set that is 5 inches long one that is 6 inches and one set that is about 7 inches long. Obviously the penis is going to stretch longer than the rods are, but it said on the site one long pair of rods would be included that you could cut down yourself. Nothing wrong with what i got but I was just wondering if this is a regular occurence for people to get rod sets that measure the same as mine. thanks.

Those are standard set - 5,6, and 7" - and because of where it clamps and the height of the base, it should give effective 7, 8 and 9" stretch. On a rare occasion, we do have someone that do need a longer rod, and in that case, we will cut a longer one (special request and it replace one of the set).

I'll check the web page to see if I didn't make that clear. The website is quite old and as you can see, even the product is completely different than one you actually have (one you have is 4th generation and one on the website is 1st generation). I'll need to work on that.

Do you need a longer rod? Let me know.

Cheers.

[iwant8inches]

nah man..if I ever do MAN I'll be thanking you every day

[monkeybar]

I'd just like to let you know that AutoADS is now released. The information is on the website. I'd like to thank all those who waited... My head is always ahead of what I actually could do.

Info is here - www.autoextender.com

Cheers.

[iwant8inches]

hey monkeybar...how do i change my angles for the autoextender? I can't seem to change the angles from like the regular down angle to say down to the right down to the left.

[monkeybar]

hey monkeybar...how do i change my angles for the autoextender? I can't seem to change the angles from like the regular down angle to say down to the right down to the left.

Not sure what you mean. Do you mean side to side or point between up and down.

In order to fix it at certain point (up-down point), loosen the set screw on both side, screw in the threaded rod (so that rod is touching the plastic), re-tighten set screw. If you mean side to side - that cannot be done.

Send me a email if you meant something else.

[iwant8inches]

okay i'll try this tonight

yeah that is what i meant but not the side to side part.

thankyou.

[big-wish]

According to the Autoextender website the device has recently experienced some changes (ie wider base, etc, etc). I ordered mine about two weeks ago (still waiting on it). Just wondering if I amn getting the new model or the old one.

Anyone else received their autoextender recently?

[iwant8inches]

yeah i got mine about 3 weeks ago and it's great. I got the newest model. I don't think they make the old versions anymore.

[monkeybar]

According to the Autoextender website the device has recently experienced some changes (ie wider base, etc, etc). I ordered mine about two weeks ago (still waiting on it). Just wondering if I amn getting the new model or the old one.

Anyone else received their autoextender recently?


Send me a email. I need to know who you are. If you ordered few weeks ago, you should of received it. I could check it for you. Everything thing is new model.

Cheers

[BusyMan]

Monkeybar,

I'm curious about the new ADS device, and especially the attachment method to the penis.
How much weight would that thing hold without slipping off all the time?
And what weight (or rather: tension corresponding to what weight) would you recommend for ADS'ing?

Thanks.

[monkeybar]

Monkeybar,

I'm curious about the new ADS device, and especially the attachment method to the penis.
How much weight would that thing hold without slipping off all the time?
And what weight (or rather: tension corresponding to what weight) would you recommend for ADS'ing?

Thanks.

I haven't tested the equivalent weight/pressure thing as this was designed as an ADS device. However, I did use it with one of the old weight I had from previous model (1.2lb). The pull from strap can be much harder than 1.2lb. When I was wearing the weight, it really didn't feel like I had much on. With the strap, I could definitely feel the ligs stretching (both feel and by hand).

Again, this wasn't designed as a high force device. Rather its an ADS device that could be worned under clothing. I believe that time is more important than how much pressure you put on over short time. The other thing is that this device is a complimentary, rather than main PE device. You still need to have a complete regiment whether you use this or any other devices.

[big-wish]

MB,

got my device in the mail today. Thanks,

I have had it on for about 5 min. Had to switch from the default rods to the medium size ;)

I am eyeing the auto ADS. What difference in s-t-r-e-t-c-h does it provide over the AutoExtneder.

Also what do these devices complement best.

ie.

1) Manual Stretch/power assist ----> Autoextender
2) Hanging ------------------------> Autoextender
3) Jelqing -------------------------> Autoextender

4) Manual Stretch/power assist ----> AutoADS
2) Hanging ------------------------> AutoADS
3) Jelqing -------------------------> AutoADS


etc, etc, etc

[PEkwarg1]

Hi Monkeybar,

Could you tell me which of the two products (AutoEXT and AutoADS) provides the most circulation for the penis? Looks like the AutoEXT to me but I could be wrong.

Thanks.

[monkeybar]

Hi Monkeybar,

Could you tell me which of the two products (AutoEXT and AutoADS) provides the most circulation for the penis? Looks like the AutoEXT to me but I could be wrong.

Thanks.

From the beginning I designed the AutoEXT and AutoADS as a complimentary product along with various manual methods. Using AutoEXT as more powerful stretcher to be used for short time and ADS device for extended healing. The reason for AutoADS is simple - concealibility. I always mentioned that extenders should not be worned under clothing - mine and others. It just wasn't designed that way - no matter what they say. Its big and too ridgid to be worn under clothing. To be worned under clothing, it needs to be flexible, adapt to various conditions, such as walking, standing, sitting and lying down. I know of no other device that could accomodate that other than AutoADS (mayby phallosan? - but it uses vacuum, which I don't like).

As far as circulation, the AutoADS is the more "comfortable" one, designed to be worned for a longer period. You still need to take a break, but most users are wearing it for 3-4 hours at a time.

[PEkwarg1]

Cool. Thanks for the info man :D

[koooky]

Dumb question here, even though I started this thread I haven't really kept up with it
in a while. Has there been an improved method of tightening the jaws instead of the rubber bands?

Thanks
kook

[iwant8inches]

no, but i don't see it to be a problem for me actually. I use 2 rubber bands and wrap them twice each around.

[KingD]

OK!!! No ones had any new experiences or results with either the modified head or the autoextender? HOLLA BACK!!

[joe_smith]

I've had my modified head for about 2.5 months now. I really really like it. The head my extender cam with was rubbing the underside of my penis raw. Now that I am using the Autoextender head and wrap I have no irritation what so ever. I has made it a more comfortable experience.

[decow]

Commercial companies claims inches to gain... They even have a calculator for average gain per month... Even clinically they have shown you gain a lot using this method solely. Hmm... What do you say guys?

[KingD]

Yo Monkeybar!!! When will the ball stretcher be avaliable?

[monkeybar]

Yo Monkeybar!!! When will the ball stretcher be avaliable?

Sorry, been busy with my regular work. Its a bitch and now they are talking about outsourcing. Give me a break.

It should be out in 2-3 weeks.

[monkeybar]

Commercial companies claims inches to gain... They even have a calculator for average gain per month... Even clinically they have shown you gain a lot using this method solely. Hmm... What do you say guys?


You can't believe those calculator - Unless you are extra ordinary, an average gains over the years will be 1+ inches, not 3" as those calculator suggest. There is only so much ligs that you could stretch and pull out hidden penis. And yes, you could gain with light stretching.

[goldmember]

You can't believe those calculator - Unless you are extra ordinary, an average gains over the years will be 1+ inches, not 3" as those calculator suggest. There is only so much ligs that you could stretch and pull out hidden penis. And yes, you could gain with light stretching.
I think the traction devices most all target tunica gains. The Andropenis stretches in an up position. But I do agree that the gains are exaggerated.

[REDZULU2003]

Monkeybar, do you plan on having any christmas special offers for MOS members at all? or am I being cheeky lol

[REDZULU2003]

Anyone got any feedback/gains from the autoEXT?

[REDZULU2003]

Alright, I just received my order for the autoextender [2nd hand] and it seems a nice piece of kit.

Tried it once and I'm mad impressed with all the angles one can stretch in, however the head attachment doesnt do it for me.

Myn came with the small attachment [see http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showpost.php?p=162750&postcount=15] and I feel I might need a larger size.

When I'm all setup their is skin that won't flatten where the head clamp meets, and IMHO is because my flaccid girth is too large for the attachment.

Has anyone else had similer problems? anyone wishing to sell their large head attachment? MonkeyBar, how much is it for a new large sized head attachment incl' postage to the UK and will that cure my problems

[Pandora]

Yeah u want the large head and that will solve everything but stillwantmore seems to have the daddy of adds lol i might try that gadget out lol

[Pandora]

If ur uncut are u pulling u foreskin back

[monkeybar]

Alright, I just received my order for the autoextender [2nd hand] and it seems a nice piece of kit.

Tried it once and I'm mad impressed with all the angles one can stretch in, however the head attachment doesnt do it for me.

Myn came with the small attachment [see http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showpost.php?p=162750&postcount=15] and I feel I might need a larger size.

When I'm all setup their is skin that won't flatten where the head clamp meets, and IMHO is because my flaccid girth is too large for the attachment.

Has anyone else had similer problems? anyone wishing to sell their large head attachment? MonkeyBar, how much is it for a new large sized head attachment incl' postage to the UK and will that cure my problems

I'm not sure which version you have, but there is a 2nd hole on the hinge for more adjustability. Try that first to see if that helps.

One other thing about AutoEXT jaw - some people are now using it as a clamper. Some seem to really like them. For this , you'll definitely have to move the hinges out to a 2nd hole. I'm actually developing a new multi-pe device that could do both with adjustable clamping mechanism.

Let me know how that works out.

[REDZULU2003]

I'm not sure which version you have, but there is a 2nd hole on the hinge for more adjustability. Try that first to see if that helps.

One other thing about AutoEXT jaw - some people are now using it as a clamper. Some seem to really like them. For this , you'll definitely have to move the hinges out to a 2nd hole. I'm actually developing a new multi-pe device that could do both with adjustable clamping mechanism.

Let me know how that works out.

Hi, thanks for getting back to me quick.
I got the latest 4th Gen.
Shall try the 2nd hole on the hinges and see how that goes.

Also with regards to the wrap, how many inches do you think I'll need?

I also havent been pulling my skin back, I'm uncut.

[monkeybar]

Hi, thanks for getting back to me quick.
I got the latest 4th Gen.
Shall try the 2nd hole on the hinges and see how that goes.

Also with regards to the wrap, how many inches do you think I'll need?

I also havent been pulling my skin back, I'm uncut.

Use much as you need to, there is no rule - whatever make you comfortable.

There are lots of differing opinion regarding skin pulling - and they are all valid to a degree. In my experience, I get the best pull when skin is pulled back (also uncut). Without skin pulled back, it seem to stretch the skin more than the ligs, causing some turtle neck syndrome. With skin pulled back, you feel more on your ligs... but because we are more sensitive, the wrapping become more important.

For those who are uncut - we seem to have a difficult time PE'ing than those who are cut (due to the sensitivity under the skin). I'm testing a universal sleeve for uncut folks and it was just sent to one of the user. Hopefully its a worth while add-on for uncut folks (probably replace current wrap thats included).

[Pandora]

Use much as you need to, there is no rule - whatever make you comfortable.

There are lots of differing opinion regarding skin pulling - and they are all valid to a degree. In my experience, I get the best pull when skin is pulled back (also uncut). Without skin pulled back, it seem to stretch the skin more than the ligs, causing some turtle neck syndrome. With skin pulled back, you feel more on your ligs... but because we are more sensitive, the wrapping become more important.

For those who are uncut - we seem to have a difficult time PE'ing than those who are cut (due to the sensitivity under the skin). I'm testing a universal sleeve for uncut folks and it was just sent to one of the user. Hopefully its a worth while add-on for uncut folks (probably replace current wrap thats included).

Monkeybar,

what are ur experience with the universal sleeve and is it more comfortable is it easy to get on with the foreskin pull back does it create a better surface for the clamp.

[twins172_up]

just wanted to get on this thread to check the progress of this device

[monkeybar]

just wanted to get on this thread to check the progress of this device

Actually, the current model will be redesigned in near future... or it maybe completely phased out and replaced with VacExtender (there are 3 version of VacExtender with one specific to other extenders, like Jes, PM, etc).

The VacExtender will be released in about 2 weeks with hanger/ADS version coming out first, followed by AutoEXT base version, and finally a replacement version for other extenders. We are in 2nd phase of the beta testing and once that is completed, it will be go into production.

I'll put more info once its released.

Cheers

[BigWill]

Any update on the release date?

[monkeybar]

Any update on the release date?


Sorry took so long. The new vacuum hanger will be released next week.

Here's brief info - www.autoextender.com/vacu-hanger.html

[REDZULU2003]

It also KICKS ARSE.

[KingD]

Yo monkeybar!! That new hanger/ADS looks good. Very simple, yet effective. The size if it looks easy to conceal. Are you supposed to measure the widest point on your penis while erect or flaccid? What is the price of your new product? Are you going to accept Paypal?

[monkeybar]

Yo monkeybar!! That new hanger/ADS looks good. Very simple, yet effective. The size if it looks easy to conceal. Are you supposed to measure the widest point on your penis while erect or flaccid? What is the price of your new product? Are you going to accept Paypal?

We're still figuring out the measurement. The normal girth measurement don't really work as penis is not round and widest part is side to side. We're measuring to see what the equivalent will be.

The prices are as follow (the only thing you need to supply is the weight),

1 cylinder package - $89
2 cylinder package - $115
3 cylinder package - $135

There's couple of reasons for the multiple cylinder package - 1) you may be in between size and want to make sure, 2) using larger cylinder for girth work (the head). The girth work is only for short duration, thus still needing a right size cylinder for longer hanging session.

For full disclosure, the following people have been involved with the development or testing of the proto-type (so take it with grain of salt) - larslaukanen, Big Girtha, Vater, RedZulu (mos), Iwant8inches (mos), Mbuc, Mgus, Para-Goomba, and Modestoman.

The feedback I got during the beta-testing was tremendous. Hopefully everyone feels the same way after trying it out.

For those who don't know, this device was developed (and now patented) based on SuckXtender idea by Mgus/Mbuc at another board. I'd just enhanced it and added few needed funtion to make it more complete.

The model that I posted is the hanger/ADS version. There will be a extender version that will fit either AutoEXT base or PM/JES type extender base, which will be released later.

Just to explain little more about the device (sorry I hang out at the other board more out of habit),

The device itself is fairly simple to use and there's nothing complicated about its design. Its a vacuum pump less design that uses a single sleeve for seal. The sleeve is put on outside of the cylinder, which will allow an un-restricted fitment. Once cylinder is put on, the sleeve is unrolled over the shaft. The vacuum is created after the cylinder and sleeve is fitted (instruction will be posted in about a week - waiting for model pictures)

We've tested up to 15lb and I'm sure it could do more. For those who don't know about vacuum based hanging, the weight is less important compared to clamp/vise style hanger.

The severe blood flow restriction, wrapping technique and pain management associated with clamp/vise based hanger is a known fact. And because of these problems, most people are watching the clock to get it off as soon as possible - which typically last about 10-20 minutes per session. With most of these problems eliminated, you are able to hang for much longer session. However, because you can now hang for longer session, the weight has to be decreased or you will not get the full benefit of vacuum hanging. For example, BG at Thunders are hanging with 10lb or less for several hours, whereas he used to used to use 20lb with clamp hanger (for 10-20 minutes). Again, its a new way to hang and thinking has to also change.

Okay, sounds good - what's the negative. Well there's always a negative. One of the main problem with vacuum hanging is a fluid buildup. Again, BG mentioned that he developed a blister (twice) after wearing his vacuum hanger for 5 hours over few days - yikes!

The way I solved this problem is to create a constriction sleeve to limit the fluid buildup (you could see the picture). This came out during the beta testing and was patented by itself because we thought it was that important. With constriction sleeve, I wore the hanger for 2+ hours and the condition of my head was in same state before I started the session (well my head looked squished, but restored in few minutes). With out the constriction sleeve, my head looked similar to people who uses vacuum pump (swollen, sensitive, etc). Even those will go away in few minutes, but its better to be safe than get a blister.

I was going put up a pre-ordering page last night, but decided to wait until measurement thing is ironed out. Either way, it will start shipping next week.

Yep, paypal/credit card is only thing we accept.

Cheers.

[jay12283]

I would like to get my hands on that modified head, but on the webpage it says it's not available. Plus i have been having probs with this noose slipping off and whatnot. Not to mention I spent like 90 bucks or something on that comfort strap which is worse and pinches the hell outta my penis. Is there anyone out there that has an extra modified head for sale, or can redirect me to somewhere with one available. Any info and or help will be greatly appreciated, and btw I love this site!! you guys kick ass!!!

Thank you so much,
Jason

[sizequest]

[monkeybar]Sorry took so long. The new vacuum hanger will be released next week.


Hi monkeybar, when are you putting the instruction pictures on how to use your vac hanger on your web site?? Already ordered one and cant wait to use it.rofl

Thanks
Size

[gellar]

Already up.
Check it out.:)

http://www.autoextender.com/vachanger-instruction.html

[REDZULU2003]

Its an awesome device

[gellar]

Yeah waiting on mine, cant wait.rofl

[sizequest]

Already up.
Check it out.:)

http://www.autoextender.com/vachanger-instruction.html


Thanks gellar, dont know where I was looking but I couldnt find it.Problem solved.

[BigWill]

For how long can you hang with the Vacextender before taking a break?

[monkeybar]

For how long can you hang with the Vacextender before taking a break?

There will be 3 version available - the Vac-hanger (which is available now, but haven't update the webite, this week), Vac-ADS, and Vac-Extender (these will be released in June).

Typical usage for each one is as follow,

Vac-hanger - 30-60 minutes per hanging with moderate weight (5-10lb). If used as an ADS device, it could be worned up to 1-2 hours.

Vac-ADS/extender -This is a much smaller version compared to the other Vac-devices, slightly bigger than a quarter. As a hanger, 30-60 minutes per hanging session (5lb max due to the design). As an ADS device, up to 4 hours before break. The break period is longer - 30 minutes, due to fluid builup, which you should let it subside before re-starting. Extender usage is same as ADS timeframe.

Vac-Extender - This is a Extender version of Vac-hanger. With this device, you get both the extender and a hanger in one package (cylinder is same, only the attachment is changed). Extender usage is 1-2 hours.. As an ADS, 1-2 hours. As a Hanger, 30-60 minutes of moderate weight.

[monkeybar]

Forgot to mention - there'are two new sleeves (small/large) that will replace what was shipped. Its much more durable (no ripping) and should last a heck of lot longer - about 3-4 times the current sleeve.

If you ordered the Vac-hanger, then you'll get the new sleeve (3 sleeves), free of charge. You don't need to do anything, it will go out this Friday or next Monday.

Thanks

[sizequest]

There will be 3 version available - the Vac-hanger (which is available now, but haven't update the webite, this week), Vac-ADS, and Vac-Extender (these will be released in June).

Typical usage for each one is as follow,

Vac-hanger - 30-60 minutes per hanging with moderate weight (5-10lb). If used as an ADS device, it could be worned up to 1-2 hours.

Vac-ADS/extender -This is a much smaller version compared to the other Vac-devices, slightly bigger than a quarter. As a hanger, 30-60 minutes per hanging session (5lb max due to the design). As an ADS device, up to 4 hours before break. The break period is longer - 30 minutes, due to fluid builup, which you should let it subside before re-starting. Extender usage is same as ADS timeframe.

Vac-Extender - This is a Extender version of Vac-hanger. With this device, you get both the extender and a hanger in one package (cylinder is same, only the attachment is changed). Extender usage is 1-2 hours.. As an ADS, 1-2 hours. As a Hanger, 30-60 minutes of moderate weight.

Hi Monkeybar, just got mine in thanks. I know you posted how long you could hang for but how much circulation is actually cut off during hanging with 5 lbs? I mean is there reasonable circulation whilst hanging or very minimal? When doing your testing did you notice cold glans after prolonged hanging periods > 1-2 hrs? Just wanted to make sure and be safe.
Thanks,
Size

[monkeybar]

Hi Monkeybar, just got mine in thanks. I know you posted how long you could hang for but how much circulation is actually cut off during hanging with 5 lbs? I mean is there reasonable circulation whilst hanging or very minimal? When doing your testing did you notice cold glans after prolonged hanging periods > 1-2 hrs? Just wanted to make sure and be safe.
Thanks,
Size

There's none or almost no circulation restriction. In fact opposite happens, which results in fluid buildup. Thats why I include a compression sleeve to minimize the fluid buildup over a long period (I'll touch on that little more).

If you are hanging 10lb, then do a 30 minutes sessions. For lighter hanging - 2 1/2 to 5lb - I used it up to 2 hours, but not frequently. Most of the time I hang for about an hour with that weight. For ADS - I go up to 3 hours.

Its important that you use a compression sleeve when hanging for long a period. The fluid buildup could be minor or major depending on the person. If you are going to hang more than 30 minutes, then use the sleeve. Its better to be safe.

As for the compression sleeve, its very stretchy, but some people have a very large girth, which may cause some circulation loss. For those people, I'm making a larger compression sleeve (lucky bastards). If you have a large girth, email me and I'll send one over when its made.

Again, this is a different kind of hanging and fluid buildup is the enemy, not circulation.

[joe71]

Monkeybar,
your device sounds excellent and I'm keen to get one.

However I'm just slightly perplexed as to how one should use the compression sleeve.
I've looked at the instructions link and the purchase page link above and saw the pic of what one looks like, but can you give a brief idea (diagram/pic) of how one uses the compression sleeve in hanging.
Sorry in advance for my incapacity to visualise it clearly.

Thanks kindly,

Joe.

[KingD]

Monkeybar has alot on his hands right now, so let me assist my fellow MOS PEers with some info and vids from Monkeybar. Here is the post:


I've also been testing the heck out of the new sleeves and I think it will remove any issues we've had. First I want to make sure you understand what the new sleeves mean - for average people, the new sleeves will workout fine. Most people will use the small sleeve. The large sleeve is made for people with quite a bit of girth. And there is one group of people that I'm most associated with as I start out that way. For people with girth challenge (those with less than 3.5" flaccid girth) - I have a smaller-small (I don't want to call it X-small) sleeve. If you are girth challenged, you need to contact me with your requirement as this will be a special request item (meaning it will be made that week after the request).

Okay, back to the testing. I've shot a video (3.7MB). The quality is pretty poor and I didn't get the whole thing in view, but it should give you a good idea. There's three objects on the video - X-large cylinder, aspirin bottle and huge vitamin bottle. The first one tested is the large sleeve. Basically I beat the crap out of those sleeves and handled it pretty rough.

The link is here - www.autoextender.com/sleeve.MPG

The new sleeves are pretty tough, but you still need to treat them gently. Its still a soft silicone and it will expand, deform or rip if treated harshly, over time. Also, make sure that end of the sleeve is smooth. If theres' any tear, you need to cut them off.

Cheers.



Here is another post:

Here's video of one of my high precision, double blind, laboratory controlled stress testing of the new sleeve (10lb). Bewarned, its 5.5MB mpeg file.

www.autoextender.com/swing.MPG


I hope this helps someone and I hope Monkeybar isn't mad at me for doing this. Just trying to help.

[vortex66]

thanks KingD for visualising it for us, great job

:)

[KingD]

No prob!!!! That's what MOS is for. To gain info and share experiences with each other. HOLLA BACK!!!

[monkeybar]

No prob!!!! That's what MOS is for. To gain info and share experiences with each other. HOLLA BACK!!!

Thanks KingD. I got to post more here - I do check, but I go to other site more out of habit. Its like going to your favorite restaurant, over and over.

I haven't finished the instruction page yet, but here's some pictures - http://www.autoextender.com/vacuhanger-instruction.html

The new sleeve is working out great and everyone should of received the replacement. The new sleeve should last 3-4 months each (hopefully more, but its too new to judge), so 3 months x 3 sleeve that you get = 9 months.

I'm also getting lots of email about VacExtender - whether its a replacement of Vacu-Hanger. The answer is no, its a lighter/smaller hanger/ADS/extender. It will have more force than any other extender, but hanging weight limit is 5lb. As always, I list everything very conservatively for your safety. There may be heavier weight capable version later, but not at this time.

If you only have a limited budget and can only afford 1 PE device, then I would say wait and get the VacExtender. Although I have many (many) PE devices, I'm almost exclusively wearing the VacExtender at this point. The time you could put in with this device is phenomenal and because it can be used as many device in one. As a ADS, its put on and forget type of operation. If you are still using one of those loop type extender, this will blow you away with its comfort (really) and allow you to put more force than you thought possible. As a hanger, its has a similar feeling as aVacu-hanger. Even with 5lb, you'll feel the stretch on tunica/ligs. Its really stretching the penis - grabbed only from the tip - and yes you could really feel the tunica and ligs getting stretched.

Cheers.

[sweets]

Does the vac-extender that's coming out, can you angle it up, staight out, and down, like the other extenders?

[monkeybar]

Does the vac-extender that's coming out, can you angle it up, staight out, and down, like the other extenders?

This is not a simple extender head replacement - Its more than that. As a replacement head for existing extenders, the functionality is same since only the head will be changed. Same thing for AutoEXT version.

As an ADS, you could wear it around the waist, down the leg or around the shoulder.

And as a hanger - you could position pretty much any angles as long as there's a place to put the rope (i.e. over the shoulder, over the leg, BTC, etc).

[KingD]

I can't wait to see this one!!! HEY MONKEYBAR!!!! When do you think you will have pics of it up?

[joe71]

As an ADS, you could wear it around the waist, down the leg or around the shoulder.
etc).
I'm excitedly awaiting this for that particular reason. If I tried to wear it down my leg it'd definitely get noticed, since the pin-stripe trousers I have are just a bit too well-fitting.
(My german sausage already bulges down the side whenever I sit down. ;) )

Can't wait for it MB!

[sizequest]

There's none or almost no circulation restriction. In fact opposite happens, which results in fluid buildup. Thats why I include a compression sleeve to minimize the fluid buildup over a long period (I'll touch on that little more).

If you are hanging 10lb, then do a 30 minutes sessions. For lighter hanging - 2 1/2 to 5lb - I used it up to 2 hours, but not frequently. Most of the time I hang for about an hour with that weight. For ADS - I go up to 3 hours.

Its important that you use a compression sleeve when hanging for long a period. The fluid buildup could be minor or major depending on the person. If you are going to hang more than 30 minutes, then use the sleeve. Its better to be safe.

As for the compression sleeve, its very stretchy, but some people have a very large girth, which may cause some circulation loss. For those people, I'm making a larger compression sleeve (lucky bastards). If you have a large girth, email me and I'll send one over when its made.

Again, this is a different kind of hanging and fluid buildup is the enemy, not circulation.

Hi Monkeybar, I have been using the Vac hanger as an ADS. I apply the tension with a THERA BAND and give enough tension to feel the pull and to allow walking with no problem. I am also using the new sleeve you sent out
(the bigger sleeves).I am not using the compression sleeve at the moment as I have no problems with fluid build up (yet).

What I have noticed that concerns me a little is that I tension stretch for 40 minutes for the first time, (usually 25min) and although there was no discoloration (or pain) my glans seemed to be cold (not blue) when I took it off. Am I doing something wrong? There was no after effects, just wanted to make sure I was doing thing correctly. By the way its the best PE device I have used so far and I got most of them.

Thanks ,
Size

[Strong4Long]

You are right about the wrap!
I have actually had the wrap for a long time and didn't know how to use it. It came with the original head (butterfly looking thing) which always slips off. But the pictures on their site (autoextender) demonstrated the use of the wrap (it was called comfort tape in my package) and using the stuff properly just took things to a whole new level. You can wear it long and apply more tension with amazing comfort.
The butterfly gizmo still slips off, I wrap it with 7" piece of velcro to hold the tabs so they don't slip as much.

[monkeybar]

I just want to let people know, the Modified head is almost dead at this point. Unless I discover a better way to grab the penis using 3rd party base. The AutoEXT is much simpler as I could change the size of the base to match the redesigned head, but within the constrain of your existing base, it will be more difficult. The Modified VacExtender is basically a replacement. Once you try it, you'll know why I'm not too enthuestic about the modified head redesign effort.

If you need a replacment wrap - it will still be produced in small quantity for existing customers. Other than that, it will also be phased out.

If you have a concerns with future support or part availability, feel free to send me a PM.

Cheers.

[Buari]

Is that clam shell attachment still available...couldnt find it

[makeitbigger]

Ok guys. I found the pice of the prototypes for the 3 new sizes. According to the web site, they should be out mid-to late May. I will keep everyone posted and maybe I can talk him into coming over here and talking to us sometime.

Kooky

http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=47923&page=6&pp=15&highlight=Auto+Extender

where can i buy this modified head for my jes/andro extender?
this one is probably much more comfortable, right?

[makeitbigger]

I'm not sure which version you have, but there is a 2nd hole on the hinge for more adjustability. Try that first to see if that helps.

One other thing about AutoEXT jaw - some people are now using it as a clamper. Some seem to really like them. For this , you'll definitely have to move the hinges out to a 2nd hole. I'm actually developing a new multi-pe device that could do both with adjustable clamping mechanism.

Let me know how that works out.
have you already build your own device
?

do you have any pictures?

[makeitbigger]

Ok guys. I found the pice of the prototypes for the 3 new sizes. According to the web site, they should be out mid-to late May. I will keep everyone posted and maybe I can talk him into coming over here and talking to us sometime.

Kooky

http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=47923&page=6&pp=15&highlight=Auto+Extender

is it still possible to buy this or is there anything better out there?