Dryopteris filix mas, caused a spectacular penis enlargement.

[rain]

Saw a link to this site at another PE site... So, posting the link here..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=947210&dopt=Abstract

The information at that site reads as follows:

"Kantemir I, Akder G, Tulunay O.

In male mice and rats, one drop of an extract from Dryopteris filix mas, administered orally pure or suspended in sunflower-seed oil, caused a spectacular enlargement of the penis. This unexpected effect cannot be explained so far and will have to be elucidated by further experiments."

Would Dryopteris filix mas be poiseness to humans?

Did a quick search on Dryopteris filix mas and here's what turned-up... Not sure if that is the same Dryopteris filix mas they are writing about.

http://salvaeco.org/plante/page/dryopteris_filix_mas.php

http://www.fronds.co.nz/product.html?p=74

http://www.nhm.org/research/botany/Cultivated_Dryopteris/026_Dfilix-mas.html

rain...

[rain]

Dryopteris filix mas was used by researchers, and I am not saying that anyone should try using it....

Pure Dryopteris filix mas could be poisonous.

Extract likely means they processed it first, removing the harmful stuff...

It would be interesting to learn what part of the plant they used and how they proceeded with the "extract" of whatever properties were used.

rain...

[REDZULU2003]

whats the name of the plant??? why not get some boul it up the part where this stuff is and eat it?? okay it may be poisonous but cooking it should help.

I am keen about this find Rain.

[rain]

REDZULU2003,

I looked at photos of the plant on the net. To confirm what I believe it to be, will be going to a local plant store and look at one there.

If my guess is right, the stuff grows wild here.... *g*....

Also, plan to research the poisonous factor. If animals in the wild eat it... *g* That's good enough for me. If not, then I'll have to question whether or not to do it.

Extract was probably a highly amplified dose.

Also, will search the net again for means of emailing the Researcher. Would like to ask him a number of questions.

rain....

[johnny77]

very interesting find..we shouldnt let this thread die...good luck rain,if you need any help with research let me know....

[8 isn't enough]

I looked it over. It was done in the late 1970's with no other mentioning if this effect in any other studies done with this plant. It may be BS.

8

[REDZULU2003]

But it may not be.....Rain do what ya must. This is a sticky now

[Gardenier90]

Can this be the true holy grail of PE elixers?

[8 isn't enough]

Or the death of you, take your pick. Its toxic and I cant recommend anyone use it. The toxic level of Tongkat ali also was noted that the penis was swollen. I wouldn't take a toxic amount of Tongkat to grow your penis. I'm just saying to be carefull and wise about what you do.

8

[rain]

The plant was posted at another PE site... It wasn't my find. It was at thunders or betterman.com but don't recall which at the moment.

Here's what I learned so-far from a gardening web site.

(Clump forming fern found throughout North America and grows well in the Pacific Northwest.

At one time, Male ferns were used medicinally to expel tape worms. The root yields an oleo-resin that specifically treated tapeworms by paralyzing the muscles of the worm making it release its hold. An oily purgative was taken with the root to help expel the worm from the body. The fern was also used in olive oil to make a massage oil.)

Paralyzing the muscles of the worm does raise concerns. Trekked through a wooded - marsh - wetland area this afternoon and found four plants with similar leafs to compare with photos on the net.

I will throw-out what I gathered from the wooded wetlands.

If I do proceed and "not sure I will do so".... Will buy the plant from a nursery store to insure it's the right one. And that is a huge "IF"...

Will keep everyone posted as to what I decide to do. "Risk to health is a deciding factor."

Last thing I wan't is for anyone to harm himself using the plant.

I do not suggest that anyone proceed to use the plant.

No one should use the plant, unless there is medical research that supports it as save to use for humans.

Due to "Risk Factors", I am leaning toward "NO WAY."

Rain...

[Gardenier90]

You got guts if you do try it! Guts won't mean much if you die though.

[REDZULU2003]

DO NOT take this thing.....we MUST reasearch it more.
8 isnt enough is a Scientist at this stuff.....dude their must be ways that we can think of in the home to decrease the toxin levels???? I dont wonna sound harsh but get ideas in....this could be a MASSIVE breakthru...........

[hopefullybigger]

origionally posted by rain
The fern was also used in olive oil to make a massage oil.)

Well if it was used for a message oil maybe we can search for certain brand oils that used the plant, and use it during a girth routine while jelqing. Im not sure if it will work because i havent researched it but it sounds logical.

[hopefullybigger]

All right I’ve been doing some research and I found out some news that could help us with this herb. The site I have on here says that an adult can take a maximum of 7 grams, so if you were going to have any I would say that 2 grams maybe even 3 maximum would be safe. It says it depletes vitamin b so remember to replenish that.


http://www.caprine.co.nz/wa.asp?idWebPage=3278&idDetails=152

[SnakePlissken]

Time to experiment on a few homeless people.

[REDZULU2003]

hmmmm....GREAT research thanks for sharing.
Now we know that bit more...we know what dosage to take.
Now we need to know how to take it wothout getting the toxin in us????

Boiling it.....cooking it etc etc any ideas...also is anyone game for oneday [after reasearch] testing it???/ maybe some of you scinece folk like Rain can test it on a Rat or summut???
we MUST NOT let this die....we as I said before maybe onto summut new.

[hopefullybigger]

Well there’s another site that I found that said if you cook it, it taste like sweet potatoes, I’m not sure if this is fully killing the toxins, but maybe we should take a vitamin b pill of some type to make up for what is being taken from us. Think about it, if we replenish the vitamin b that’s being taken then the toxins wont negatively effect us. Rain I’m not an expert but you probably know more then I, so would love to hear what you think.


http://www.magialuna.net/f.html (http://www.magialuna.net/f.html)

[rain]

Wow,

This thread really took-off. I didn't expect that...

Been busy here, and haven't had time research further or glance a the links posted. Will try to get at them next week.

Poisonous factor keeps me leaning away from it, unless I can confirm it as safe.

rain...

[REDZULU2003]

anymore research???

[Synthetic]

It is also possible that cooking it destroys the ingredients that makes the penis grow.

[REDZULU2003]

true, like when soup is overcokked it looses its goodness.....hmmmmmm their must be ways, CUMMON FUCKERS lets get lucking into this....anyone know if they sell these in the UK....I want one ;)

[Girthius]

They already sell this in the form of a pill at most homeopath shops. It goes by the name of "Filix Mas", and yes it's for the treatment of Tape Worms. It also has a few side effects. It's not very expensive to buy as well!!

Girthius

[REDZULU2003]

Filix Mas - Wonder if it could indeed help with penile enlargement????

ANyone willing to try an experiemnt with it???? try them pills for say 1 month and do the normal usual exercise and see what happens.

Anyone interetsed?

[REDZULU2003]

I just found out we have TONS of ferns in our garden...I can do experiments in due time now.

Also go here

http://www.crocus.co.uk/plantingideas/home/?ContentType=Plant_Card&ClassID=1824

they sell the plan really cheap...its UK ££££ though.

[REDZULU2003]

Also maybe even Tongat-Ali could help with size gains????

goto

http://www.tongkat-ali.org/

Our Researchers mentined this a page back.

[rain]

Hey guys...

Appears this thread is still alive and kicking. I've been busy, plus trying to deal with health issues, so not experimenting with anything... Have an echocardiogram scheduled in a couple weeks... Hopefully nothing major... Probably stress - related.

Rain...

[REDZULU2003]

Sorry to hear that man...hope it goes well.

As for the Felix-Mas....I have alot of ferns and will cook them in a few days and try it out.

What should it be..the leaves? or the roots?

[ItsElectric]

Originally posted by REDZULU2003
Sorry to hear that man...hope it goes well.

As for the Felix-Mas....I have alot of ferns and will cook them in a few days and try it out.

What should it be..the leaves? or the roots?

Wow RED, bottoms up!! No clue about the leaves or the roots though.. ?:(

-ItsElectric

[rain]

REDZULU2003,

Take care not to harm yourself...

Rain...

[REDZULU2003]

Cool.....what should I cook though?

[SlamInTheLamb]

Red, tell us when you're about to try it and if we hear nothing of you again, we'll know not to try it ;)

Seriously though...be careful.

[REDZULU2003]

I will...but I need to know what ta cook....the actual leaves or the roots??????????????

[REDZULU2003]

what am gunna do is cut the leaf in half and than cook it...than eat it.
Monday is the day.

[jt203]

This site gives a little bit of information but one very important part, saying dont eat the plant if you are going to consume alcohol, it can cause blindness or death. I dont know if its 100% truthful but i wouldnt take a chance.

http://www.joellessacredgrove.com/Herbs/def-herbs.html

[REDZULU2003]

It has put me of abit....but I will not be consuming alchohol anyway...but it says overdose...consuming alchohol on medicine can make it stronger etc.....I wonder what it would indeed feel like to take this stuff???? like being pissed maybe?

[lonerj]

REDZULU, I wish you the best man. Good luck with your experiment.

[REDZULU2003]

I still aint done this yet...dunno when I am going to.

[PEkwarg1]

rofl that plant grows EVERYWHERE here!
it can't be toxic, cause i had a rabbit a long time ago and he used to eat this. but the rabbit is a herbivore which means his stomache is made to process plants only, which could also mean he isn't affected by the poison i think.
but dudes, we have 1 in the living room and several outside and when i was little i used to eat this stuff :p
it has a strange taste but it isn't bad. i used to eat a leaf, but i was like 8 years old at that time and i didn't feel something "unusual" hehe.

maybe one should take this in high quantities. you can always consume a Norit tablet with it to neutralize toxins.

[Maal]

I found a homeplathy site that sells filix mas in different forms, pills, granules, ointment, and liquid.
Maybe it wouldn't have to be taken internally if the ointment could be used. I don't know, I'm not a doctor or anything like that. I'm just interest like the rest and wanted to be of help. Here's the site I found it on.

www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Fil


I hope it's of help!

Maal

[REDZULU2003]

thaks for the info

[Maal]

If I can find something more on filix mas to read, I might be willing to try the ointment. That's if it works like that 4AD stuff I've read elsewhere about. (able to penitrate the skin)

Maal

[Godsize]

Too bad that site says "no alcohol" with the plant, because I was gonna say to dry it, chop it up real fine, then soak it in high proofage liquor for 2 or 3 weeks - shaking it up a few times a day.

What ever magic that is in the plant will go into the alcohol, thus creating a nice PE-lixer. One or two shots'll do ya!

But if you read somewhere about NO ALCOHOL, then scratch what I just said.







Why don't you just SMOKE THAT SHIT?!!

[rain]

Okay,

Sorry don't get here as often as I'd like... But do read posts from time to time.

I called a few local health-herb dealers, concerning buying a pill or massage oil of the planet.

Learned it was banned for non RX usage due, a number of serious reactions to using it... Toxic reactions...

So the only way to get it, according to local herbal suppliers is through RX and Doctor.... With that information added to a search engine, there was more to be learned.

Part of this form is researching, which this thread has proven. Toxic reactions, a large number of people... Hospital stays... Need I say more? Be warned, experimenting on yourself could be dangerous...

Rain...

[REDZULU2003]

I am gunna try eating 1/4 of a raw fern leaf tommorow.

[rain]

Keep us posted...

While I warn of the dangers, if not for my RX meds, I am crazied enough to try it...

Rain...

[REDZULU2003]

damn I may have to give tonight a miss cos I drink heavy tonight.
I will do it tommorow cos I never drink on sundays.

[REDZULU2003]

rofl
guess??? I still aint done this yet...am gunna do am gunna do it.

[Supra]

Please post how to do it exactly one you try this, this could be the missing link to PE!!

[oopapercutoo]

I find it hard to believe in this kind of thing, but if it does in fact turn out to be for real then I pray to God that we can somehow manage to keep this news mainstream. I don't want all of my PE'ing efforts to be in vain and wind up being average again...that would piss me off.

[REDZULU2003]

FUCK IT...I am gunna eat half a male leaf tommorow *scouts honour* I will photo the fucking eaten leaf and post it here...or photo the leaf going into my mouth.

I will die trying...I really dont give a fuck anymore.

[REDZULU2003]

I need to know two things first before I try this.

#1 what are RX meds that rain keeps mentioning?
#2 How would one know [me] that I have been poisoned..toxins in me?

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Okay this is what I WILL do tommorow at around 12pm GMT.
Get a male fern leaf and eat 1/2 of it, the largest half of the leaf.
I gunna get it fresh from the garden, cut it up into bits than add it to some warm water and take it orally.

Than after that I will take X1 multi vitamin and mineral pill to help boost the depleted vitamin B2 the fern takes away.

Thats it.

I will monitor my cock size throughout the day.

I'll also keep you informed here thru'' the day on how I am feeling etc from the thing.

[REDZULU2003]

Moved to main section to get more support. :gluedtosc

[Supra]

I really want to try this!!

[REDZULU2003]

than join me...we will either live or die ;)

[REDZULU2003]

can someone upload that song ''Live and let die'' from the bond film....very appropiate for this..cos I could poison myself tommorow or nuthing could happen, or maybe my dick will swellup alot bigger???

also I need these answering

#1 what are RX meds that rain keeps mentioning?
#2 How would one know [me] that I have been poisoned..toxins in me?

[shojii]

A transdermal experiment with using a catalyst like DMSO.
Certain types of oral steroids can be used this way (e.g.) primobolan acetate. It is rubbed onto the stomach and mostly bypasses the liver, maybe in theory it could be used as such.
Just a thought

[Jason1]

I think you should start off with a very small amount.

[REDZULU2003]

I tryed this at 12:40pm GMT [40 mins ago].
I had probz finding a leaf, cos they have nearly all died here.

I found a big one.
I cut it in half, washed it and ate the biggest half.

Washed it down with some milk...YUK it was fucking aweful, the most bitter shit I ever tasted.

The effect thus far.

I fealt sick at times, very slight headache, but the most syomptoms are dizzyness and also a spasm like movement around my pectoral region now and again.

I feel alright.

[SlamInTheLamb]

keep posting so we know you're not dead ;) :D

[REDZULU2003]

Okay so I did it.
I LIVED rofl
anyways I found out that my dosage [half a male leaf] did not increase my size, or at least not so one could really notice...BUT I have found something with this.

Here goes.

I started masturbating.....I was REAL horny as hell.
Just wanking away at porn like a kid again.
So what I did as 'a'' got the day of, I phoned an escort up to come round ;) anyways I shagged her to death for 1 whole hour and guess what??? I could not no matter what was tryed, even cum once.....I fealt the urge and the sensation of it, but I didnt cum once.
I had the orgasms time after time I was faint.
She left and I carryed on wanking and doing some pulls, jelqs.
I knew this wasnt my PC muscle or anything like that cos when I wonna cum I can cum.
I was wanking away and I would get near the zone than suddenly it would go...than my orgasm set in like when you cum...but I didnt cum.
I could still wank and have more and more.

I did all this within 2 hours of taking the leaf.

Alright so it doesnt seem to make the penis bigger, but it works GREAT at making you last LONG LONG LONG.

I will try another test with the leafs, dunno when..but it will be one more before spring as the things are dead.

Anyone else wonna try?

Half a leaf.
It really works....you can last for ages.

[Supra]

RED !!!! Tell me what to do I want to do this!!! How do I do it!!

[REDZULU2003]

Get a Fern plant...the same specious as described in this thread.
Have alook at the pictures in this thread of the fern so ya know what type...its the Dryopteris Filix Mas....you want the male leaves.

They grow WILD in many countrues.

Get half a leaf.
Cut it in half.
Wash it, remove the leaves from the stem and eat...chew them up and swollow.
Its a terrible taste...so take some mint afterwards and wash it down with summut.....also DO NOT TAKE ANY FORM OF ALCHHOL in the next 24 hours as this can make the thing deadly.

When you've taken the leaf you will notice after 30 minutes that you feel a little drousy [sleepy], dizzy and have mild slight stomach and headache - I had all of these.

Do summut within say 4 hours of having this plant, like wank, exercise, sex anything to test the penis.

Do you notice any changes??? tell us,

I will continue trials with the plant in the months ahead.
If it goes well.....than we could have a premature ejaculation solution.

Also you can buy this plant online...if ya wonna do that this site sells them

http://www.crocus.co.uk/plantingideas/home/?ContentType=Plant_Card&ClassID=1824

[Supra]

Awesome thanks a lot!

[Brock Landers]

Hey guys I found some more info on studies done with this plant, just be careful this plant is quite toxic. But the experience RED had sounds promising.

http://www.herbmed.org/Herbs/Herb34.htm#Category5Herb34

[another shy one]

Originally posted by rain
Saw a link to this site at another PE site... So, posting the link here..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=947210&dopt=Abstract

The information at that site reads as follows:

"Kantemir I, Akder G, Tulunay O.

In male mice and rats, one drop of an extract from Dryopteris filix mas, administered orally pure or suspended in sunflower-seed oil, caused a spectacular enlargement of the penis. This unexpected effect cannot be explained so far and will have to be elucidated by further experiments."

Would Dryopteris filix mas be poiseness to humans?

Did a quick search on Dryopteris filix mas and here's what turned-up... Not sure if that is the same Dryopteris filix mas they are writing about.

http://salvaeco.org/plante/page/dryopteris_filix_mas.php

http://www.fronds.co.nz/product.html?p=74

http://www.nhm.org/research/botany/Cultivated_Dryopteris/026_Dfilix-mas.html

rain...



Are we sure the mice or the rats did not not PE....? :D That might have skewed the data rofl




Seriously, this sounds promising. However, if DLD's exercises work so well, why risk one's health for a herb?

[REDZULU2003]

good info'' Brock'

Heres the original extract that kicked all this off

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[Preliminary report on an unexpected effect of an extract from Dryopteris filix mas (author's transl)]
[Article in German]
Kantemir I, Akder G, Tulunay O.
In male mice and rats, one drop of an extract from Dryopteris filix mas, administered orally pure or suspended in sunflower-seed oil, caused a spectacular enlargement of the penis. This unexpected effect cannot be explained so far and will have to be elucidated by further experiments.
PMID: 947210 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

--

Also seems that this stuff certainly increses GSH - cellular glutathione (GSH), the body’s master antioxidant and detoxifier, which is because the thing is toxic.

Also from what I read this plant produces L-Methionine which is an essential sulfur amino acid. The body cannot produce L-Methionine, which must be obtained from food or supplement sources.

Theirs lots of other chemical reactions that take place but I cant understand all that jargon...it makes not much sense tome as I aint a Scientist....we need Blade and 8 Isnt enough - any other npe/pe Science guru's on this.

---------------------

Finally I must report that around 12/14 hours after taking the leaf, even while masturbating I could still last for ages.
I eventually cummed, but it took alot longer than usual....STILL AFTER 12 HOURS.
The final orgasm on ejaculation seemed the same, STILL INTENSE but I didnt notice it any more so....but the positive is that this thing has helped me stay longer...and the thing lasts.

[REDZULU2003]

Seriously, this sounds promising. However, if DLD's exercises work so well, why risk one's health for a herb?

---

Simple....its a new discovery.
A simple plant that can make you last for ages and ages not like anything else seen before.
I want tobe on the verge of this...the guy that tested it.
I dont think its been tested on humans like I have recently done :s they have done it on rats, mice and rabbits in large and prolonged periods.

However I want to see its effects in small, medium, large dosages over short periods.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Also guys I forgot to mention in that other post that from what I have researched, even them new sources that Brock landers have posted...it seems that this stuff when dryed, oitment, powder doesnt have the full % of certain chemicals.
Its more potent and strong when took fresh like I did.

Also is their anyother volunteers willing to test this stuff out.

So far its

#1 RedZulu2003 [me]
#2 Supra

[SlamInTheLamb]

Originally posted by REDZULU2003
Also is their anyother volunteers willing to test this stuff out.

So far its

#1 RedZulu2003 [me]
#2 Supra

I'm not quite as crazy as you Red, but I find it very intriguing. Full credit to you for giving it a go.

From what I've read on it, there's a fine balance between what can be taken safetly and what will poison you, so try and stick to the smaller quantities. BTW, did you get the shits? ;) It's supposed to have strong laxative properties in the male fern leaf. Here's a link for you felix mas (http://www.earthmagicks.com/Herb2.html)

[REDZULU2003]

I hevent shit yet from it, but have today seem to have nasty stomach cramps.

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by RED
Also from what I read this plant produces L-Methionine which is an essential sulfur amino acid. The body cannot produce L-Methionine, which must be obtained from food or supplement sources.

A fair while ago I read that L-Methionine can help with premature ejaculation, something to do with 2 chemicals have to be present to ejaculate and L-Methionine inhibits them to some degree making you last longer I THINK, not totally sure can't find the article I read that from but there are products with L-Methionine powder claiming to help with premature ejaculation among other benefits.

http://www.health-marketplace.com/L-Methionine.htm

So this may explain why RED lasted so long when he ate the plant, maybe we should look down this avenue as well for lasting longer during sex.

[fallen_one23]

wow, red, and some other guys, you'd eat anything to make you're dick better. I mean stomach cramps, headache, drowsiness, not being able to drink alchohol!!!??? is it worth it?

[REDZULU2003]

yes it is, common dude I am doing this for US......THE GUYS HERE and myself.
Could be onto something alittle new here.
Like Brock just said that chemical could be what helped me last the other day.

I think when the tests are over itll be worth it, cos guys wanting to last longer can just get a simple plant from the garden.
Its gotta be worth it than buying pills.

[Supra]

I thought this was supposed to make our penis bigger, not last longer? WTF?

I have about 20 Ferns in my yard, were are the pics of the exact on it need?

Were are the pics!

Also how do I know if If I have a male or female leaf?

[REDZULU2003]

I thought this was supposed to make our penis bigger, not last longer? WTF?

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Rats it did, we are testing it on HUMANS now.
I didnt get an increase in size but I only took half a leaf, and whats so bad about being able to last longer? thats a BIG fucking bonus if ya ask me.

READ thru'' the whole thread, pix of the plant are in the thread, you must read it all to gain a background of whats going on.
Theirs many links in this thread telling ya about the plant we need.

A male plant doesnt have the seeds ''reddish'' colour under its leaves at this time of year.

[fallen_one23]

I might try to get some, lasting longer could bea great bonus to like a first date or something, or if you want to give your gf something special that night;)

[REDZULU2003]

exactly. :)

[SlamInTheLamb]

As Brock suggested, it may be the L-Metionine that's helping you last longer. I've done some reading up on this stuff and ordered some, together with equal quantities of Magnesium and a smaller amount of vitamin B6, to give it a try.

To me, lasting longer would almost be as good as having a bigger dick.

I'll be taking the following on a daily basis :-
L-Methionine 550mg
Magnesium 450mg
B6 50mg

I'll report my results after taking it for a few days.

[REDZULU2003]

why not try the leaf?

[fallen_one23]

is there any difference between pill and leaf, or do they add some more vitamins and stuff to the pills?

[REDZULU2003]

From what I have read the pills won't be as potent as taking it fresh.
But we could do with someone testing the pills.

I think its just pure fern leaf extract or summut to that extent.
Theirs tons of links to buy it throughout this thread,
post what your intentions are.

I am testing the raw fresh leaf

Slam_in_the_lamb is testing some of its [fern leaf] ingrediants -
L-Methionine 550mg
Magnesium 450mg
B6 50mg

and you could test the pills.

[SlamInTheLamb]

Originally posted by REDZULU2003
why not try the leaf?
Chicken I guess ;) too many unknown risks for me.

What I'm really interested in finding out is if it was the L-Methionine in the leaf that caused the delayed ejaculation. If so, this could be a great supplement for many here.

[REDZULU2003]

yes it could, maybe you should just try that.
Dont use the vitamin B6 and magnesium incase they mess with one another.

I also belive that theirs more to it in the fern leaf than the L-Methionine, someother ingrediants may attribute to the LONG lasting effects of what I experienced [12 hours], I will test again .... date - TBA.

[another shy one]

this is really, really cool. Keep on the good work but be still careful.

[Supra]

Hey Red how many times have you done this?

[REDZULU2003]

once

[Girthius]

Red, are you sure the effective ingredients are in the leaves? I am sure I read that it was in the roots?

girthius

[REDZULU2003]

must be in the leaves cos why else would I not be able to cum for 12 hours ?:( the roots might have summut as-well? I dont fancy diggin a fern plant up, they are HUGE

[rain]

You are a either brave or crazy... However, I don't have room to talk... You results are interesting... I've called a few plant stores in the area, hoping to buy one... No luck... And with winter months here, nothing growing in the wilds...

Rain...

[Supra]

Red are you still doing this?

[REDZULU2003]

thanks for the feedback, nah I cant do it at the moment cos they [plants] aint around right now, have to start it up at a later day, or try and hunt a plant still alive which is remote now.

[REDZULU2003]

wil be doing his soon in a few months so watch the space, if its till here.

[REDZULU2003]

I shall be testing this again soon, keep eyes peeled.

[REDZULU2003]

When I test this again I shall do so with a FULL large male fern leaf, FRESH cut from garden, same as before.
I will monitor as usual.

On anotherday I will take a TBA dosage of male fern root, fresh also and monitor as usual.
I read back, and it seems the root part is used to kill the tapeworm in humans, also the most toxic part. From what I read I DO NOT know what part was used on the rats when there dicks became huge?

It will be TWO seprate test days of course, wont be too long now.
The next 4-6 weeks I should begin the new trials ... testing the leaves [larger dosage] and the roots.

[LeeJunFan]

I am alos going to give this a go, has anyone else but RED done this?

[REDZULU2003]

No, just me.

[REDZULU2003]

Incase someones unsure as to what part of the leaf I eate, than refer to this thread http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6813 has a picture illustrateing what I eate.

[erm1981]

This kinda reminds me of that Salvia divinorum me and my friend ordered off the Internet to smoke because it give's some wierd hallucinations and things. Im no drug head or anything but it was a scary experience. Im just saying dont try something until you know lots about it.

[samzman]

this is very interesting, the only thing keepin me back is the fact that i'm an epileptic and i don't know if this would confront my meds

[BigCatLion]

Hey RedZulu....just in case, make a will. :-)

[REDZULU2003]

I risk my life eachday on the streets, I already have a will made.
Shall be testing this again in the next few weeks as the ferns are coming up good.

[wellynton]

A closely related plant: "Dryopteris juxtaposita" has been shown to be toxic in rabbits. I'd recommend extreme caution to all DIY experimenters.

Source: INDIAN JOURNAL OF EXPERIMENTAL BIOLOGY; 37 (10). 1999. 980-985.


Abstract:

BIOSIS COPYRIGHT: BIOL ABS. Experimental studies with Bracken and Dryopteris ferns @ 25% concentrate ration mixture were conducted in rabbits. Fern fed rabbits showed progressive anaemia, leukopaenia, lymphopaenia and relative heterophilia. Significant elevations in serum enzymes like serum glutamate oxaloactate transminase (SGOT), serum glutamate pyruvate transminase (SGPT), alkaline phosphatase (ALP), urea and creatinine levels were seen. Histopathologically, rabbits showed mild to moderate vascular changes in most of vi y thin layer chromatography (TLC) and high-pressure liquid chromatography (HPLC) methods.

[REDZULU2003]

no new news, I already new the toxic effects and have precations for them...thanks for the concern, I am touched.

[Mrmuscles]

i recently started taking nitro tech protein and the first time i had sex after loading up a few servings of this stuff i lasted for at least 20 min longer than normal. It has vitamin b6 525% daily value and L- methionine

[REDZULU2003]

good

[REDZULU2003]

I gunna be eateing a full leaf this weekend.

[stiff4ever4u]

I gunna be eateing a full leaf this weekend.

Perhaps someone should notify all the sheep ranchers over there!!!!!!
ROFLMAO

[REDZULU2003]

lol

[bigman808]

results from the weekend???? I've read the whole thread, so I'm curious to see what's up with the results of a whole leaf....good luck bro

[iwant8inches]

I just read the entire thread myself and I have to say RED you are one crazy dude. But damn I'm interested in trying this out. Haven't looked at the plant yet though. I'll check that out before I leave. Good luck and keep us posted.

[iwant8inches]

Hey Red, you know how you had those stomach aches the day after and the headaches the day you took it? Did you eat anything with it? How much water did you take with it? I'm just wondering because I think drinking at least an 8 oz glass of water would help maybe? Kind of like taking medicine? Maybe taking it with something to eat and drink this time if you didn't the first trial. I'd hate to think your headache and other side effects would increase as your dose will be just because you didn't drink enough water or eat something with it you know? I mean I doubt it would hurt the potency or delivery time of the plant if you did this. BUt then again you probably did eat something relatively soon after right? eh forget it what do I know?

[REDZULU2003]

I shall try this, this weekened coming.
Had to delay cos of work again.
The stomach and head pains from lasttime are from the toxins IMHO in the plant.
I do belive that takeing water and some food before the plant would make these symptons less likely to occur, so thanks for reminding me.

[iwant8inches]

I shall try this, this weekened coming.
Had to delay cos of work again.
The stomach and head pains from lasttime are from the toxins IMHO in the plant.
I do belive that takeing water and some food before the plant would make these symptons less likely to occur, so thanks for reminding me.

Not sure if that was sarcastic or not...but anyway I hope all goes well. :s

I gotta find me some of that fern plant. I'll have to go up to this nursery or whatever they got around here and see if they have one.

[REDZULU2003]

Tommorow I shall try this again and get some sex in the afternoon and see how it goes.

[REDZULU2003]

Get a Fern plant...the same specious as described in this thread.
Have alook at the pictures in this thread of the fern so ya know what type...its the Dryopteris Filix Mas....you want the male leaves.

They grow WILD in many countrues.

Get half a leaf.
Cut it in half.
Wash it, remove the leaves from the stem and eat...chew them up and swollow.
Its a terrible taste...so take some mint afterwards and wash it down with summut.....also DO NOT TAKE ANY FORM OF ALCHHOL in the next 24 hours as this can make the thing deadly.

When you've taken the leaf you will notice after 30 minutes that you feel a little drousy [sleepy], dizzy and have mild slight stomach and headache - I had all of these.

Do summut within say 4 hours of having this plant, like wank, exercise, sex anything to test the penis.

Do you notice any changes??? tell us,

I will continue trials with the plant in the months ahead.
If it goes well.....than we could have a premature ejaculation solution.

Also you can buy this plant online...if ya wonna do that this site sells them

http://www.crocus.co.uk/plantingideas/home/?ContentType=Plant_Card&ClassID=1824

VOLUNTEERS, come-on try this out.
Do as it says above.

[bigman808]

Still waitin for the results of the experiment, Red...lookin forward to them, btw

[REDZULU2003]

I eate HALF a full leaf, same as last time if I recall right.
Simply broke up the little leaves, and eate them in fours.
Broke them up before eating and chewing them.
I started at 12:45pm, but I could not eat the leaf I first chose.
It was a full sized leaf, each time I tried I vomitted it back up.
So I went for half a leaf.
Started again.
The stuff was VILE and the most DISGUSTING thing I EVER tasted, fuckin helll is is AWEFUL.
I had a pint of water and sipped it after eachtime I chewed and swallowed.
It took me 15 mins in all to down the leaf, from 1:15 - 1:30pm.
I fealt sick from the shit.
Also I noticed my mouth dried up ALOT inside, like my spit was being took away.
I also noticed a feeling of dizzyness, kinda like when you have had a small amount of alchohol, like Wine.
I fealt my mood change to a more happy positive one.
This lasted say 30-45 minutes.
During this time I eate a sandwich and the taste went.
Also had to use strong mints and mouth wash.
Afterwards I still fealt the dizzy effects, but they arent bad like VERY DIZZY.
Feels like you have had a tiny bit to drink, even now at 4:45pm I feel this some.
Now for the penis,
I didnt see any change in my size ..... I now know it cant be the leaves that do this, I will HAVE TO try the roots next time as I feel that is what may change the penile size.
Anyhow, I noticed I could STILL last long.
I had sex with a girl freind and went at it for about 1 hour 30 mins.
I never cummed once, we only stopped cos the parents were comin home.
Usually during sex I can FEEL that urge to come, even though I'm alright at holding it back, I NEVER fealt this urge today.
Infact I had ORGASM after ORGASM, when the usual PC flex would kick in [to shoot sperm] I would feel a fade flux near my anus [ass] and a GREAT feeling would persue, an orgasm .... normally cum would come out as-well but not this time.
I had loads of these.
No matter how HARD I fucked her, or the speed I went .. my willy didnt wonna cum.
She even said I was a STUD in bed and said her cunt was sore from the non-stop pounding I gave her.
Aother thing, is I feel more HORNY.
Im more wanting sex, even now I want some pussy around my cock.

Overall I aint surprised by the results, as I had the same last time.
But I havent had as many side-effects from the past one, which included head aches and muscle spasms in the pectoral region, all that was avoided this time.

I think this leaf works so well as it does PARALYSE the Tape-Worm, for which the plant extract is used for.
IMHO, somehow the chemicals in the leaves have an effect on the MUSCLES in the human body, and the PC Muscle which starts orgasm and ejaculation is RELAXED or PARALYSED to a certain degree ????? I dunno, but I feel its somewhere around this explanation.

[bigman808]

Nice man, but that sucks that it tasted so bad. maybe try downing it with some gatorade or coke. You probably didn't feel the side effects from the last one as bad because you drank more water, right? That's good to hear. Thanks again for trying the experiment and posting your results. How old was the girl you were fucking? Her parents came home? LMAO

[REDZULU2003]

lol she was 16 , thats the legal age here.
A freind of my sister lol I fuck what and when I can these days
Also next time I shall test the ROOT of the plant and see what gives, and I did eventually cum at around 5:30pm from LOTS of intense Blow Jobs by the same lass, I shot a load on her.
I also tasted some of the semen and it had THAT SAME leaf taste in it, albeit not as bad.

[bigman808]

Hmmm, strange. Well, at least you came, right? haha Well, I might have to try this someday, sounds nice to be able to last so long. Good luck with the root, make sure it isn't toxic or anything before you go ahead with it.

Also, I think we need to change the title of this thread, cause it didn't cause penis enlargement, did it? Just in rats, right?

[HangUp]

Also I noticed my mouth dried up ALOT inside, like my spit was being took away.
This is a clear sign of intoxication. I don't want to talk you out of it, just be careful and don't fuck youself up! Good luck

[REDZULU2003]

Hmmm, strange. Well, at least you came, right? haha Well, I might have to try this someday, sounds nice to be able to last so long. Good luck with the root, make sure it isn't toxic or anything before you go ahead with it.

Also, I think we need to change the title of this thread, cause it didn't cause penis enlargement, did it? Just in rats, right?

The title stays, I have been useing the leaves .. the penile size changes was seen after the root part was taken, in rats yes.


Also I noticed my mouth dried up ALOT inside, like my spit was being took away.

Thanks for clearing this up.
The dizzyness and slight drunken feeling must have been the toxins right?
Do you have any idea as to why this leaf is effective at holding of ejaclation longer than normal?

[HangUp]

Yes, but it's very hard for me to express it in english... I will try it :D
The toxins of the plant also have their effects on the sensitive nerve endings maybe. (I'm not too familiar with this plant. To be honest I first read about it HERE)
This leads to desensitization, just like a local anaesthetic does. Did you experience feelings of numbness in your mouth, nose or even on the skin? Then this is the cause of it.

[bigman808]

Thanks for the info! I am curious to try this product, but would like to see gains in penile sizes as well, just to make it a multi-tasking method, you know?

[Chris23]

REDZULU2003
Have u tried getting a blender and some poweraid or some juice and putting everything in there mixing it together?I bet that would make it taste alot better even if it was the root to.

[Chris23]

http://www.herbalglobal.com/cart/product.asp?p=11978&name=l_methionine its cheap and is a antioxidant.Its a amino acid thats why its in that nitrotech stuff.If i was u i wouldnt by nitrotech because its over priced overhyped crap.

L-Methionine Maintains blood flow to the kidneys, heart, brain, helps protects cells from free radicals, detoxifies harmful agents, aids digestion, help prevent brittle hair, aids muscle weakness, fights osteoporosis and allergies.L-Methionine helps prevent liver an artery fat buildup

[wants9]

If you try the leaves again, you might want to try putting them in geletin capsules. That way, you won't have to taste it.

When are you going to do a test with the root?

[REDZULU2003]

http://www.herbalglobal.com/cart/product.asp?p=11978&name=l_methionine its cheap and is a antioxidant.Its a amino acid thats why its in that nitrotech stuff.If i was u i wouldnt by nitrotech because its over priced overhyped crap.

L-Methionine Maintains blood flow to the kidneys, heart, brain, helps protects cells from free radicals, detoxifies harmful agents, aids digestion, help prevent brittle hair, aids muscle weakness, fights osteoporosis and allergies.L-Methionine helps prevent liver an artery fat buildup

Whats this to do with the fern leaf I am testing here?? enlighten me please.


When are you going to do a test with the root?

Hopefully on FRIDAY

[mecca]

My backyard looks like a grow-op of this stuff.. :)

[REDZULU2003]

get testing

[Starman]

I'm sorry to say that I've been experimenting with this plant over the last month and have not had the success with it that Red has. The plant grows wild where I live in the mountains of Northern Idaho, USA. Over the last month I've experimented with it about five times, varying the dose from a half leaf to a leaf and a half (I thought the effective dose might change according to a persons boby weight, I'm 6'4", 300 lbs) and no dose that I used could stop ejaculation. I tried it on an empty stomach, I tried it on a full stamach, I tried it with lots of water, etc. Nothing seemed to help. I didn't have any of the side-effects Red reported though, in fact I didn't seem to notice much of anything...... it was kind of like grazing on a little grass, just some green shit the next day, that was about it.
So...... needless to say I was disappointed. I hope others have better results.

Dan

[wants9]

It's not the leaf that causes growth, apparently. It's the root.

[Starman]

I realize that. I was following Red's lead and trying the leaves for a solution to premature ejaculation, but it it didn't work for me.

Dan

[wants9]

I thought that's what Red said he was going to be testing since the leaf itself didn't cause any growth in him. I'll let him speak for himself about what exactly he's doing and the effects his pasts tests have had.

[Nrrru]

heres some more of the same info but someting instering at the end.

Synonyms: Male Fern.
• Family: Aspidiaceae.
• Range: Asia, Siberia, Greece, India, N. America.
• Botany description: It makes a very lovely houseplant. Plant has broad fronds, 6 to 10 inches long. Leaves monomorphic, green through winter, 6--40 × 1--6 cm, old leaves persistent as gray or brown conspicuous clump at plant base (only in this species). Petiole 1/3 length of leaf, scaly throughout; scales dense, brown to red-brown. Blades green, linear-lanceolate, pinnate-pinnatifid to 2-pinnate, papery, densely scaly (only in this species) abaxially, glandular, aromatic when handled (only in this species). Pinnae ± in plane of blade, linear-oblong; basal pinnae linear-oblong, much reduced, basal pinnules longer than adjacent pinnules, basal basiscopic pinnule and basal acroscopic pinnule equal; pinnule margins crenately toothed. Sori midway between midvein and margin of segments. Indusia glandular. Root is long obovate, slightly curved, the upper end obtuse or truncate, the lower end acuminate, some cut longitudinally into two pieces, 7-20 cm long, 4-8 cm in diameter. Externally yellowish-brown to black brown, densely covered with regularly arranged frond-bases and ramenta, and with curved rootlets. The frond bases oblate rounded 3-5 cm long, 5-10 mm in diameter, externally with longitudinal edge, texture hard and fragile, fracture slight smooth, brown and showing 5-13 yellowish white meristeles arranged in a ring. The outside of each frond base with three rootlet respectivly, ramenta striped lanceolate, entire, usually fallen off, texture hard, fracture slight smooth, dark green to brown, with 5-13 yellowish-white meristele ranged in a ring, relatively more leaf trace bundles scattered in the outer part. Odour characteristic; taste, firstly slight astringent and then gradually bitter or pungent.
• Chemical composition: Three new kaempferol glycosides, called crassirhizomosides A (1), B (2) and C (3), were isolated from the rhizome of Dryopteris crassirhizoma (Aspidiaceae), together with the known kaempferol glycoside, sutchuenoside A (4). The structures of 1-3 were determined as kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(2,4-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranoside-7-alpha-L-rhamnopyranoside, kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(3,4-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranoside, and kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(2,3-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranosside-7-alpha-L-rhamnopyranoside, respectively, by chemical and spectroscopic means. Inhibitory effects of 1-4 and kaempferol on human immunodeficiency virus reverse transcriptase-associated DNA polymerase (RNA-dependent DNA polymerase and DNA-dependent DNA polymerase) and RNase H activities were investigated (Min, 2001).
Two new ichthyotoxic compounds, aspidin PB (8) and dryofragin (9), along with three known phloroglucinol derivatives (1-3) and five terpenoids, were isolated from the whole herbs of Dryopteris fragrans(Ito,2000).
The two dimeric compounds aspidin and desaspidin, which were found to be the most active among the tested phlorophenones, were also examined in vivo on two stage mouse skin carcinogenesis, and found to show significant inhibitory effect on 7,12-dimethylbenz[alpha]anthracene (DMBA)-TPA tumor promotion(Kapadia,1996).
• Part Used: Root.
• Medicinal Uses: In male mice and rats, one drop of an extract from Dryopteris filix mas, administered orally pure or suspended in sunflower-seed oil, caused a spectacular enlargement of the penis. This unexpected effect cannot be explained so far and will have to be elucidated by further experiments (Kantemir, 1976).Aspidin and desaspidin inhibit TPA induced tumors in mice(Kapadia 1996) .
Shows antibiotic properties of the male fern (Aizenman 1973).
Effect of desaspidin on photosynthetic phosphorylation and related processes(Hind 1966).

[REDZULU2003]

I already new thisn but I tryed the leaves to RULE them out.
Next time round I shall try the roots.
Also people helping with this, make sure you use the RIGHT fern plant and make sure its male.

[REDZULU2003]

heres some more of the same info but someting instering at the end.

Synonyms: Male Fern.
• Family: Aspidiaceae.
• Range: Asia, Siberia, Greece, India, N. America.
• Botany description: It makes a very lovely houseplant. Plant has broad fronds, 6 to 10 inches long. Leaves monomorphic, green through winter, 6--40 × 1--6 cm, old leaves persistent as gray or brown conspicuous clump at plant base (only in this species). Petiole 1/3 length of leaf, scaly throughout; scales dense, brown to red-brown. Blades green, linear-lanceolate, pinnate-pinnatifid to 2-pinnate, papery, densely scaly (only in this species) abaxially, glandular, aromatic when handled (only in this species). Pinnae ± in plane of blade, linear-oblong; basal pinnae linear-oblong, much reduced, basal pinnules longer than adjacent pinnules, basal basiscopic pinnule and basal acroscopic pinnule equal; pinnule margins crenately toothed. Sori midway between midvein and margin of segments. Indusia glandular. Root is long obovate, slightly curved, the upper end obtuse or truncate, the lower end acuminate, some cut longitudinally into two pieces, 7-20 cm long, 4-8 cm in diameter. Externally yellowish-brown to black brown, densely covered with regularly arranged frond-bases and ramenta, and with curved rootlets. The frond bases oblate rounded 3-5 cm long, 5-10 mm in diameter, externally with longitudinal edge, texture hard and fragile, fracture slight smooth, brown and showing 5-13 yellowish white meristeles arranged in a ring. The outside of each frond base with three rootlet respectivly, ramenta striped lanceolate, entire, usually fallen off, texture hard, fracture slight smooth, dark green to brown, with 5-13 yellowish-white meristele ranged in a ring, relatively more leaf trace bundles scattered in the outer part. Odour characteristic; taste, firstly slight astringent and then gradually bitter or pungent.
• Chemical composition: Three new kaempferol glycosides, called crassirhizomosides A (1), B (2) and C (3), were isolated from the rhizome of Dryopteris crassirhizoma (Aspidiaceae), together with the known kaempferol glycoside, sutchuenoside A (4). The structures of 1-3 were determined as kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(2,4-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranoside-7-alpha-L-rhamnopyranoside, kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(3,4-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranoside, and kaempferol 3-alpha-L-(2,3-di-O-acetyl)rhamnopyranosside-7-alpha-L-rhamnopyranoside, respectively, by chemical and spectroscopic means. Inhibitory effects of 1-4 and kaempferol on human immunodeficiency virus reverse transcriptase-associated DNA polymerase (RNA-dependent DNA polymerase and DNA-dependent DNA polymerase) and RNase H activities were investigated (Min, 2001).
Two new ichthyotoxic compounds, aspidin PB (8) and dryofragin (9), along with three known phloroglucinol derivatives (1-3) and five terpenoids, were isolated from the whole herbs of Dryopteris fragrans(Ito,2000).
The two dimeric compounds aspidin and desaspidin, which were found to be the most active among the tested phlorophenones, were also examined in vivo on two stage mouse skin carcinogenesis, and found to show significant inhibitory effect on 7,12-dimethylbenz[alpha]anthracene (DMBA)-TPA tumor promotion(Kapadia,1996).
• Part Used: Root.
• Medicinal Uses: In male mice and rats, one drop of an extract from Dryopteris filix mas, administered orally pure or suspended in sunflower-seed oil, caused a spectacular enlargement of the penis. This unexpected effect cannot be explained so far and will have to be elucidated by further experiments (Kantemir, 1976).Aspidin and desaspidin inhibit TPA induced tumors in mice(Kapadia 1996) .
Shows antibiotic properties of the male fern (Aizenman 1973).
Effect of desaspidin on photosynthetic phosphorylation and related processes(Hind 1966).

ALso thabnks for this data.

[GhosT_DoGG]

Hows it going with the root red? This thread is very interesting,
I think those grow in the Swedish forrests, seen many many and more.
They all look exactly like the one in the picture. So it would'nt be hard to find them. :)
We also got some plants that look like bluebarrys, but they arent bluebarrys,
they are some kind of clone i guess but with some toxin effect.

[Nrrru]

I also read that there is no Male and Female plant, its just called a Male because of its robust look.

[patwary]

hi, my one is 4 inch only and i want to gain it more than now. if there is any one can help me and give me some correct instruction how to gain it i will deeply appreciated.
thank you.
JAY

[REDZULU2003]

I have moved this into the alternative section as its changed into alternative PE as the thread developed.

[RazedNegative]

Im willing to try it out if I can get my hands on some. If it was used in a massage oil, then it cant be too harmful. Anything in a massage oil would be induced into the blood stream through the skin, just like a patch etc. So if it didnt kill people when used as massage oil, I don't think it would if it was ingested, as long as it was in moderation.

[wants9]

Hey, Red, have you had a chance to test the root, yet?

[REDZULU2003]

nope, when I do its gunna be posted here.

[wants9]

Just chiming in to say that I'll be giving this a shot myself, hopfully next week. I've been in a "what the hell" mood recently. From what I've found on-line, it should be less than $15 for the fern.

[REDZULU2003]

Thats great cos I aint had any damn time recently lol
What ya gunna do? the leaf or root?

[wants9]

I'm going to get a whole fern and plant it outside. That way, I'll have a constant source for both. I'm going to try the root first, though, after I re-read the whole thread and do some 'net searching to figure the doseage.

[REDZULU2003]

Sounds great, I also have these in the garden.
Also post anything ya find in here.

[wants9]

You bet

[rain]

Wow,

This thread is going and growing...

[wants9]

I could use a little help, here. I was about to order from a Yahoo store (http://search.shopping.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AloySm9BviAeJAgwQkVG6e4bFt0A;_ylu=X3oD MTBrNTJrcWU3BF9zAzE0NDg5MTE1BHNlYwNzb3J0?p=Dryopte ris+filix+mas&mid=&did=&pf=&pt=&test=DFLT&cop=&X=3), but there's a few different types available: Grandiceps, Crispa Cristata, Linearis Polydactyla, etc. Could you point out which one is the right one, Red?

[REDZULU2003]

http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LaS_ULEhVBzg4BPQUbFt0A;_ylu=X3oDMTBuZWZoODV qBF9zAzIzNTAxMzc5BGx0AzAEc2VjA3Ny/SIG=12mv0mvdi/**http%3a//www.plantconnection.com/PlantCatalog/PRINTPerennial.cfm%3fPerennialID=1515

[wants9]

http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LaS_ULEhVBzg4BPQUbFt0A;_ylu=X3oDMTBuZWZoODV qBF9zAzIzNTAxMzc5BGx0AzAEc2VjA3Ny/SIG=12mv0mvdi/**http%3a//www.plantconnection.com/PlantCatalog/PRINTPerennial.cfm%3fPerennialID=1515
Great. Thank you, much.

[Ronan111]

Dryopteris felix-max is also known as the "male fern".....I wonder why?...maybe the guys who named it knew more about it than they were letting on.

On a more serious not some ferns are known to contain carcinogens....but you would have to be eating it as your main diet to take on enough for it to be really harmful. Braken used to be eaten as a vegetable at one time.

Ronan.

[derringer57]

update?

[GhosT_DoGG]

Yeah hows this shit going dude?

[yamaha12]

yeah

update please

[magnumforce]

I'm afraid to tell you we couldn't replicate the effect of Dryopteris extract on rat penises or any other lab animal. Forget about it.

[doublelongdaddy]

Dryopteris (Felix-max) (http://www.com-nature.com/~fougere-fern/libraryGB/fernpagesGBtext/filix%20masGB.htm)

[Bigbadbison]

I'm afraid to tell you we couldn't replicate the effect of Dryopteris extract on rat penises or any other lab animal. Forget about it.

I dug up the study. The mice are huge after the treatment; larger than any normal mouse could be. There is no other known way to make a mouse that big. They didn't make it up, that much is very clear.

[raffiki]

Come on Red, go for it!

[Bigbadbison]

Come on Red, go for it!

I am not saying Red should try it. My German to English translation was done by a program that I found on Google, and I a not sure if any of the mice died or not or had other serious side effects. The pictures are clear though.

[REDZULU2003]

bump

[alex321]

So, did you try it? The root i mean.

[REDZULU2003]

not yet

[slicNICK]

red. so when are you going to do this? you have the entire PE community waiting on your findings!!!!!! lets go bro!!!

[REDZULU2003]

I aint the time nor the material ATM.
The plant is dead here in the UK. I have tested the leaves and they DO slowdown ejaculation, but the root is supposed to, perhaps make the penis larger. I AINT tested that yet. Maybe someone else could do some testing also.

[bkara]

To Redzulu:
I'm Bkara, from Brazil. That's my first post here. Excuse me, I have no fluency in English. Please, don't use the roots of Dryopteris filix-mas. It's the very poisonous part of the plant. The leaves aren't very poisonous but if eaten frequently can have carcinogenic effects.
I have a friend that bought a little farm here where are a big number of ferns. He is a universitary teacher, pensioned, and pretended be a cattle breeder. His cattle eats a lot of fern leaves because the plant is native in their property and impossible to eradicate. The high occurence of malignant tumour in his cattle made he stop the business.
This plant is well know since thousands of years by chinese and others ancient civilizations. The internal use of a oil extract from the roots was used only as a vermifuge for tapeworms, in some places, more for animals than for humans. It's very toxic: the DL (mortal dosis) is about 0,3 - 3g/kg, of a oil extract. Other bad efects can be paralises of optical nerves with blindness and/or diplopia. Persons with cardiac problems are specially sensible to this toxic plant.
The notice by Kantemir, I, 1976 about a penis enlargement observed in mices don't cleared if the effect was a real enlargement or only a strong (and transitory) intumescence. FORGET THIS PLANT ! The PE is MUCH BETTER !
I saw your pics. You have a formidable piece. Don't destroy your health with these dangerous experiences.
Friendly, Bkara.

[Bigbadbison]

Red,
I agree with bkara. You have a big penis already and this stuff is proven to be really toxic. Although humans a mice are very similar genetically, there are still many differences and it seems more likely than not that this will not work for us because there are no reports of penile hypertrophy in those treated with it for tape worm.
You are a modern adventurer and I admire you spirit, however, I think you are headed toward a well disguised cliff on this one.

[REDZULU2003]

Your right guys, to hell with the root stuff.
I AINT doing ANYMORE of this experiment.....I'll leave the thread here as its a little test of what did happen, and could have happened. I suppose we found some stuf out, that the leaves can help delay ejaculation...but I dont have specialist equipment to get rid of the toxins. Its too dangerous like you guys say to test this out. Experiment CLOSED with regards to me doing it, if anyone else wants to take the torch from me on this than your more than welcome. Thanks guys for opening my eyes to the risks.....merry xmas also and happy new year.

[REDZULU2003]

lol looking back over some old material and cant believe the crazy experiemnts that went down here

[REDZULU2003]

Okay so I did it.
I LIVED rofl
anyways I found out that my dosage [half a male leaf] did not increase my size, or at least not so one could really notice...BUT I have found something with this.

Here goes.

I started masturbating.....I was REAL horny as hell.
Just wanking away at porn like a kid again.
So what I did as 'a'' got the day of, I phoned an escort up to come round ;) anyways I shagged her to death for 1 whole hour and guess what??? I could not no matter what was tryed, even cum once.....I fealt the urge and the sensation of it, but I didnt cum once.
I had the orgasms time after time I was faint.
She left and I carryed on wanking and doing some pulls, jelqs.
I knew this wasnt my PC muscle or anything like that cos when I wonna cum I can cum.
I was wanking away and I would get near the zone than suddenly it would go...than my orgasm set in like when you cum...but I didnt cum.
I could still wank and have more and more.

I did all this within 2 hours of taking the leaf.

Alright so it doesnt seem to make the penis bigger, but it works GREAT at making you last LONG LONG LONG.

I will try another test with the leafs, dunno when..but it will be one more before spring as the things are dead.

Anyone else wonna try?

Half a leaf.
It really works....you can last for ages.

WOW I did some mad stuff back in the early days! This plant is very toxic and rumored to be inducing of penile size. I tried it several times and no note of that but from this post it helped me last long. I forgot all about this. Just one of those old dusty ancient threads that reminds you about the classic days :)

[doublelongdaddy]

WOW I did some mad stuff back in the early days! This plant is very toxic and rumored to be inducing of penile size. I tried it several times and no note of that but from this post it helped me last long. I forgot all about this. Just one of those old dusty ancient threads that reminds you about the classic days :)


Hey, we all took risks and put ourselves through things most men would cringe at! I say good show!