Crazyeds Pump Guide

[crazyed27]

Crazyeds Pump Guide


Being a pumper myself, I would like give everyone who is here or will be here, that is interested in pumping to have the basics of pumping laid out for them. Pumping is a large part of my routine, and has been for close to a year now.


The things you will need for pumping.

1. At least a decent pump, to be safe you will need a pump with a gauge, IMO this is a must.
2. You will need lube, lube creates an airtight seal, use the lube of your choice.

3. A big shower towel and a small hand towel. Use the big towel to put on your chair, and the small towel for lube clean up reasons during the sessions.

4.And of course a stiff dick.


Purchasing a pump, where to begin? Get a pump with a gauge(you must know how much pressure you are putting on your penis), and one that seems well built. (LA Pumps, Kaplens) Just some examples. What size of tube will you need. Get one that is snug enough not to suck your balls into the tube, but allows you room for growth. The table below tells us the exactly how thick you can get in each size tube. So for example if you are 6in in erect girth you would be fine to go with the 2.25in tube, because you will expand in the tube and most likely get beyond 6.25in of pumped up girth. But if you are 5.5in of girth stick with the 2in tube, the 2.25in will be too big and you will have problems getting a seal and your balls will get sucked up into the tube.


1.5in Tube size 4.75in Girth
1.75in Tube size 5.5in Girth
2in Tube size 6.25in Girth
2.25in Tube size 7in Girth
2.5in Tube size 7.75in Girth
2.75in Tube size 8in Girth


Personally I have 3 sizes of tubes. I have a 2in, 2.25in, and a 2.5in tube. The first tube I bought was the 2.5in tube. It was way too big. Then I bought a 2in, and a 2.25in at the same time. I have not used the 2.5in tube for a long time now.

I like to start off in the 2in tube for the first set, and pack the tube fully. Then any other set is done in the 2.25in. For those of you who can afford this, I would recommend that you get 2 sizes. One tube you can pack fully after a couple of sets. And one that you need to grow into. Now this is not a must, though I feel that taking a 2 tube approach aids in post workout size.


Now that you know what size of tube you need it is time to preach safety! Yes it is true that pumping can be dangerous. However it is also true that pumping can have dramatic positive effects on your erection strength and size. Two things that can ruin your sex life with pumping is too much pressure, and too long of time in the pump without the replenishment of fresh blood. To avoid any erection problems never go above 10hg and do not exceed 20mins in the pump non stop with out a break. Now 10hg is a high dangerous pressure especially for newbies, and for a lot of vets. Newbies don’t go above 5hg in the beginning. Vets if you must go to 10hg I would recommend that you do it no longer than a set of 5mins.

If you pump at too high of a pressure, or over do it on your timing you can or will get a massive amount of blood spots, blisters, a nasty looking donut, or even worse a ruptured blood vein that causes erection problems. Avoid the donut as much as possible, leave that up to the extreme pumpers O.K.
Low comfortable pressures, and limit continuous long durations in the pump. Remember this and you should never have a problem


Now it is time to pump. Get your pump ready for use. Put some lube at the inside base of the tube, this will enable an airtight seal in a pump that fits your size. Next get semi erect or fully erect, lube up your glans and shaft with a thin layer of lube, but not your scrotom. Insert your dick in the tube, gently press the tube against your pubic bone, and be sure as much of your scrotoms skin is pulled away from the pump as possible. Then carefully pump your way to your desired pressure. You don’t want your testicles to get sucked up into the pump.

New guys to pumping should take it slow at first, until the penis gets accustomed to the pressure the pump puts on the penis. For the first week pump every other day for 10mins at 3hg. This will condition the dick for future pumping sessions. The second week you can go ahead and beef it up some (pun intended) Go every other day 2 sets at 10mins at 3 hg. Week 3 now you’re basically ready to go to a full 3 set workout at 3hg every other day. Week 4 do the same as week three but raise the pressure to 5hg. After week 4 you should be conditioned to do pretty much what you want with it as long as you remain conscience of your penis’s stress handling abilities.

While you are inside the tube you will want to remain erect, porn is a great way to do this. Also you will want to do kegals and you will want to milk the tube up and down slightly. Milking for me is the most efficient way for me to remain erect in the pump. Milking the tube is basically griping the tube and trying to pull it away from the base of your penis, only shift the tube about a ½ to 1 inch up the shaft. As you will notice that milking the tube causes the pressure to increase and then go back to where you had a steady even pressure. So don’t pull up to high or hard, two things could happen, your pressure will go up really high, or you will lose your airtight seal.

Between sets you will want to either do your choice of manual exercises, or edge. This will ensure that fresh blood is supplied to the penis every 10 to 15mins or so. IMO this is very important if you would like a pump to assist in the growth of your penis. You will notice that after a pump session that you will hang thicker and fuller throughout the day. You will after time notice that your flaccid hang is always feeling heavier, looking longer and feeling thicker. The same goes with edging between sets. You will feel the difference in your erection.


So to sum it all up a productive workout should involve the following.

1. Safety
2. The correct size tube, and tubes.
3. Being erect as possible for the duration of the workout.
4. Proper execution
5. A fresh supply of blood going to the penis every 10 to 15mins.




Looks like that is it! If I left anything out let me know!



-CRAZYED27-

[going4nine]

Wow, thanks for this, Ed. I've been becoming more and more curious about pumping since i'll be getting a mitivac anyway to use with BTC Killer's new hanger. What particular brand of pump do you use, personally, and what kind of gains have you seen from this?

[crazyed27]

Wow, thanks for this, Ed. I've been becoming more and more curious about pumping since i'll be getting a mitivac anyway to use with BTC Killer's new hanger. What particular brand of pump do you use, personally, and what kind of gains have you seen from this?

Your welcome. :)


I have a Kaplan pump, not the best pump but it has a gauge and gives the post workout fatty I like to have! I really am not a fan of the tube because it is tapered. Smaller at the tip, and thicker at the base, it has giving me an even more tapered dck than I already had. I'm natrually thicker at the base.

Gains- With pumping it is very hard to keep track of your gains, this could be a downside of pumping. Your size especially girth will vary day to day when you throw pumping into the mix. Pumping is a great addition to a regular routine. It assists in erection strength as well and temporay .5in increases in girth for sex. Yes 1/2in extra for sex. Put it this way my erect mid shaft girth can be 6in or all the way up to 6.75in depending on the day and how recently I have pumped. My flaccid seems to keep on getting heavier, thicker and longer. Flaccid is 6 x5 to 7 x 6 once again depending on how long ago I have finished a pumping session.

[going4nine]

I just looked at his site (http://www.drjoelkaplan.com/)(down as of this posting), and he does offer non-tapered cylinders. Is it just me, though, or do they seem a little highly priced?

If you had it to do all over again, what would you buy? I know you mentioned a better flaccid gain, but how about erect length changes?

[crazyed27]

I just looked at his site (http://www.drjoelkaplan.com/)(down as of this posting), and he does offer non-tapered cylinders. Is it just me, though, or do they seem a little highly priced?

If you had it to do all over again, what would you buy? I know you mentioned a better flaccid gain, but how about erect length changes?


From his site you will be paying out the ass for the equipment. You can serch and find his pumps a lot cheaper. I got mine at a local sex shop for 70 bucks. Then the extra tubes for 30 bucks a peice. I made friends with the guy that works there buy talking about PE with him. Everytime I came in he gave me a discount!

I've seen them online for around 60 bucks or so. So search around some and you will find a good deal.

I would like to try a LA pump I've heard good things about them.

Once I first bougth my pump I pretty much stopped any type of length exercises. I was so amazed at the girth I was getting from pumping. I did not gain any length with the pump, just girth. Just recently I began to add length sessions in with my pumping routine. I have not measured for a few months now, but plan to at the end of the year, only for reference. I'm going for a certain look not really a certain size.

As of late I have been doing a pump session one day, then a length session the next, and so on. I usually end up not doing any PE on Sat and Sun. Its like my flaccid size is catching up quickly with my erect size. I don't grow nearly as much as I use to. So hopefully this means I have some erect length gains coming right around the corner.

[going4nine]

Excellent. I'm only working on length for another inch or so (I'm 7.5"bpel), then I'll be hitting girth hard. Do you still do anything with the hose clamp?

[crazyed27]

Excellent. I'm only working on length for another inch or so (I'm 7.5"bpel), then I'll be hitting girth hard. Do you still do anything with the hose clamp?



Cool! Pumping is a great addition to a manual girth routine,


as far as the hose clamp? Its been about 6 months since I've pulled it out the closet. Since I began pumping I've had a really hard time trying to put on the pipe insulation. >:(

[going4nine]

Cool! Pumping is a great addition to a manual girth routine,


as far as the hose clamp? Its been about 6 months since I've pulled it out the closet. Since I began pumping I've had a really hard time trying to put on the pipe insulation. >:(


Hmmm, have you tried using sweatshirt material? I think if you wrap that about 3 times you should get the same thickness and similar elasticity as the insulation. If I remember, there's a pump/clamp routine in RedZulu's clamping guide. You might want to take a look at that.

[Mr. Nine]

Ebay has good prices on Kaplan's.

[KingD]

YO CRAYED!!! I have been looking at the pumps at www.vacutech.com from awhile now. If I was going to get a pump, I probrably would get it from them because they have cylinders for targeting certain gains out of your pumping session. They even have a cylinder that is made for strictly length gains that not only pumps you up, but also give your ligs even more of a workout. Check it out and let me know what you think CRAZYED.HOLLA BACK!!!

[crazyed27]

YO CRAYED!!! I have been looking at the pumps at www.vacutech.com from awhile now. If I was going to get a pump, I probrably would get it from them because they have cylinders for targeting certain gains out of your pumping session. They even have a cylinder that is made for strictly length gains that not only pumps you up, but also give your ligs even more of a workout. Check it out and let me know what you think CRAZYED.HOLLA BACK!!!


Good link KingD!

I like the idea of the thick wall tube. Also I like the option that you can get a tube that is up to 16in long! These pumps look like they are definintly a good product. They look way better than a Kaplan!

Thanks for the info bro!

[REDZULU2003]

Great thread, my routine is pumping followed by constricted exercises.
It works really well, and I suggest that anyone who also has a extender like a vimax, goes into that after a pump session because it seems to stretch it further than it would do normally. Pumping was something I used to be against at pride penis forums, but it was early days and I wasnt so educated back than and you heard lots of bad stuff about it all. I can say hand on heart that if you do pumping safe like crazy has outlined, than you won't have any issues and when done alongside maunel work it works a treat. Just head over to Thunders and see advocet8 routine, he used pumping and manuel methods to great success.

[GrowthSpurts]

Good link KingD!

I like the idea of the thick wall tube. Also I like the option that you can get a tube that is up to 16in long! These pumps look like they are definintly a good product. They look way better than a Kaplan!

Thanks for the info bro!
Hey Guys,

I can attest to the quality of the thick walled tubes from Vacutech. I've had my two tubes (Both 10") for over 10 years now and they rock. I've had some decent length gains with them and they continue to be a part in my regimental 4 month jelq + pump routine I started in July 2005.

Can't say enough good things about them. I'll be buying an 11" x 2.25" in the next few months.

[prince Albert]

crazyed27 good post man i no very little about pumping,could you look at this thread and give me your opinion please,
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20421

[KingD]

Yo GrowthSpurts!! Does that thick wall cylinder focus on the ligs like they say it does on the site?

[Starman]

Crazyed, thanks for all the info, this is great ! I would like to add pumping, but have a question about tube sizes. My dick is real wide, 2.25'' after an hour of clamping, but it's only about 6.75" in circumference. So I have a lot of width and not much depth. Do you think a 2.5'' tube would work to get me started ? That would give me about 1/8" clearance on both sides.

Thanks for the help !

Dan

[GrowthSpurts]

Yo GrowthSpurts!! Does that thick wall cylinder focus on the ligs like they say it does on the site?
KingD, I think it's a combination of finding the right sized tube width and a proper regime like Crazyed posted. When the dick is packed wall to wall, you get a good stretch feeling as the dick has nowhere to expand but in the length direction. Hope that makes sense.

[tblpidar]

He ED, great post thanx.

I have recently purchased a 2 x 9 tube (6" circumference) i am currently at 5.3" girth <~~ base..... is that a good starting tube for me, i never pumped before.

[sasquatch]

Crazyed, some good advice.

I've pumped on and off for years. I currently use a cylinder with 2.25" id and am thinking of moving up to a 2.5" id cylinder. I can fill the 2.25" for the first 3 inches. What I am wondering is, does the pressure on the base of the penis caused by expanding to the limits of the pump put pressure on the arteries feeding the penis, thus limiting blood flow and further expansion and growth??

Kegals while in the pump are great eh! I think edging outside the pump until you are ready to blow then slipping the pump on, pumpin up to about 5hg and doing some kegals is a great way to pump extra blood into the penis. Pumping imo is possibly more productive than squeezes. It is less traumatic to the penis and you get more blood in as well. Of course, I combine a bit of everything into my routine.

[crazyed27]

crazyed27 good post man i no very little about pumping,could you look at this thread and give me your opinion please,
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20421


I would not but a head tube. You can get good glans size just by doing squezzes focusing on the glans itself. IMO it is a waste of money.

[crazyed27]

Crazyed, thanks for all the info, this is great ! I would like to add pumping, but have a question about tube sizes. My dick is real wide, 2.25'' after an hour of clamping, but it's only about 6.75" in circumference. So I have a lot of width and not much depth. Do you think a 2.5'' tube would work to get me started ? That would give me about 1/8" clearance on both sides.

Thanks for the help !

Dan


Gezzzs only 6.75in in girth?? Damn I wish I had that problem! :)


2.5in tube would do you fine IMO.

[crazyed27]

He ED, great post thanx.

I have recently purchased a 2 x 9 tube (6" circumference) i am currently at 5.3" girth <~~ base..... is that a good starting tube for me, i never pumped before.


Thanks!

A 2in tube would be great for you! And good luck!

[prince Albert]

I would not but a head tube. You can get good glans size just by doing squezzes focusing on the glans itself. IMO it is a waste of money.

Thanks

[Starman]

Gezzzs only 6.75in in girth?? Damn I wish I had that problem! :)


2.5in tube would do you fine IMO.

There's no question I've been very blessed, although I'm not 6.75 except after I've come out of the clamp. I'm right at 6'' base girth normally.

Thanks again crazyed, I appreciate the help !

Dan

[crazyed27]

There's no question I've been very blessed, although I'm not 6.75 except after I've come out of the clamp. I'm right at 6'' base girth normally.

Thanks again crazyed, I appreciate the help !

Dan


Your 6 at the base on a normal erection? Then go with the 6.25in tube. A 2.5 in tube might be a little too big for you at this point and suck your balls right in there. I don't like this to happen. I creates more fluid buildup at the tip and seems to not let you maxout fully at the base and mid shaft because your balls are in the way of your expansion.

Anytime Dan!

[Starman]

Your 6 at the base on a normal erection? Then go with the 6.25in tube. A 2.5 in tube might be a little too big for you at this point and suck your balls right in there. I don't like this to happen. I creates more fluid buildup at the tip and seems to not let you maxout fully at the base and mid shaft because your balls are in the way of your expansion.

Anytime Dan!

Yes, I'm about 6 to 6.1" at the base with a normal erection. The problem is that after say 45 minutes of clamping I'm at 6.75 at the base and it's 2.25" in width, so I'm thinking that I would immediately fill the 2.25 tube. Maybe the thing to do is get both a 2.25 and a 2.50 tube and see which feels better.
I'm thinking that with a 2.50 tube it probably wouldn't suck my balls in because I would have likely less than 1/8 inch clearance on each side of the tube.

Well, I'll just have to give it a try and see...

Thanks again Ed, your time is really appreciated !

Dan

[crazyed27]

Yes, I'm about 6 to 6.1" at the base with a normal erection. The problem is that after say 45 minutes of clamping I'm at 6.75 at the base and it's 2.25" in width, so I'm thinking that I would immediately fill the 2.25 tube. Maybe the thing to do is get both a 2.25 and a 2.50 tube and see which feels better.
I'm thinking that with a 2.50 tube it probably wouldn't suck my balls in because I would have likely less than 1/8 inch clearance on each side of the tube.

Well, I'll just have to give it a try and see...

Thanks again Ed, your time is really appreciated !

Dan


If you end up buying a 2.5in tube and it is too big, you can buy a sleeve to put at the base so you won't have any problems with your balls getting sucked in.

I'm 6.25 mid shaft and about 6.4 base girth on average as of late and I still get great expansion in my 2.25in tube. IMO you would be fine with a 2.25in tube, in 6 months or longer you might out grow it. Basically if you want to spend the money on 2 tubes then go ahead. Shit I have 3 tubes. From my experience, a 2.5in tube is bigger than it looks, wait until you get your dick in there, talk about an ego deflater! I went from heel yeah to, shit this muther fucker is too big in like 2 seconds man. >:( I say you will enjoy the 2.25in tube very much man!

Let me know what you ended up doing man and how it is going for you!

Good luck to you in your pumping venture! :)

[Starman]

If you end up buying a 2.5in tube and it is too big, you can buy a sleeve to put at the base so you won't have any problems with your balls getting sucked in.

I'm 6.25 mid shaft and about 6.4 base girth on average as of late and I still get great expansion in my 2.25in tube. IMO you would be fine with a 2.25in tube, in 6 months or longer you might out grow it. Basically if you want to spend the money on 2 tubes then go ahead. Shit I have 3 tubes. From my experience, a 2.5in tube is bigger than it looks, wait until you get your dick in there, talk about an ego deflater! I went from heel yeah to, shit this muther fucker is too big in like 2 seconds man. >:( I say you will enjoy the 2.25in tube very much man!

Let me know what you ended up doing man and how it is going for you!

Good luck to you in your pumping venture! :)


Excellent, Thanks Ed ! I will just start off with the 2.25. It should be interesting to pack the tube and then see if I can get a little length gains from the pumping also. I should be able to pack the 2.25 pretty quickly. I know what you mean about the cylinders being bigger than you'd think, I bought a 4" cock & ball cylinder a few years back and that thing is ENORMOUS !

I will definitely keep you posted although I won't be able to get started for a month or two.

Dan

[crazyed27]

I'm trying to move to the pumpers forum.

[pepepe]

good shit crazyed, u had the answers i was looking for.

[Chitownheadbusa]

i was told when u pump........it really is only for a temporary girth gain.
ive pumped plenty of times........and after about a few hours its back to the same size it was.
do u feel i would do better leaving the pump alone and just stick to the regular old hand exercises?
or is the pump just doing the same thing the hand exercises are doing....just basically stretching your penis caverns or skin?

[rakas]

I am considering incorporating pumping into my routine however i would like to know how...

How long the average pumping session is??

What are the average temporary gains made in each pumping session???

[Raffaell]

Crazy man, can you tell me you use a hand pump or an electric pump and weather the eletric one are any better or have any added benefits over the hand pumps. thanks heaps

Raffaell

[Raffaell]

Yeah can anyone tell me not just Crazyed what the deal is with hand pumps v's electric pumps. I want a pump but want to know the deal which are better. money isn't an issue for me in regards to buying a good quality model

Thanks

Raff

[falcon]

Probably better you stick with a hand pump my friend.

Otherwise you will be enrolled in the Hall-of-Stupid anal assholes of failure in the pumping game.

Falcon

[Jimfromsac]

Hey guys,

I discovered something I wanted to share;

If you take about a 1.5" section of the rubber tubes that come with the Monkey Bars hanger and place this just below the head, it keeps the donut from forming and you can pump much longer without this problem.

Let me know what you guys think?

Jim

[l33tn3rd]

Hate to add on to such an old thread, but I've been lurking around and reading for some time now and new to pumping. When you say for newbies start at around 3Hg are we talking "cm Hg" or "in Hg?" I would assume inches but correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks. :)

Edit: The reason I ask is the pump I have reads both on the dial.

[GrowthSpurts]

Hate to add on to such an old thread, but I've been lurking around and reading for some time now and new to pumping. When you say for newbies start at around 3Hg are we talking "cm Hg" or "in Hg?" I would assume inches but correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks. :)

Edit: The reason I ask is the pump I have reads both on the dial.

That would be 3 in HG.

Cheers

[CorollaGT]

Wont the technique be harmful to ourselves? ?:(

[roddthewadd64]

Vacu tech is the way to go.i began in 92 with a john holmes pump,used it for years with some succes,then purchased a nw pumpworks package deal.ive since moved up to vacu-tech a few years ago and couldnt be happier.If you're into pumping for the long haul,vacu-tech is the best buy.

[roddthewadd64]

Wont the technique be harmful to ourselves? ?:(The only harm is doing too much too fast.Its like weightlifting..you gotta start out slow.easy does it.ive been a dedicated pumper since 92,and ive never injured myself.patience is a must.;)

[lanlugyi]

Oh! thank you , thank you
I read it alot.
Sure ?
I will try .

[anonymous07128]

I got a question...



For the first week pump every other day for 10mins at 3hg. This will condition the dick for future pumping sessions. The second week you can go ahead and beef it up some (pun intended) Go every other day 2 sets at 10mins at 3 hg. Week 3 now you’re basically ready to go to a full 3 set workout at 3hg every other day. Week 4 do the same as week three but raise the pressure to 5hg. After week 4 you should be conditioned to do pretty much what you want with it as long as you remain conscience of your penis’s stress handling abilities.

After the 1st week, the routine says that someone can do 2 sets every other day...

What about 1 set every day? Is that the same difference, or should the every other day thing be maintained?

[lanlugyi]

thanks again!
i bought a pump.
but i don't know how can i use it. it made from china .
it didn't include guide book.
last day, i got the pe guide ebook from the internet. they said that pumper didn't get permenent result. Is that right?
pls tell me.
i really want to be bigger man.
I appreciate your help.
looking forward,
lanlugyi

[ladiesluvme999]

hey do u know anything about problems during pumping i had went way over the red a long time ago i only have liek one or two tiny black dots and those arent my problem my problem is that since ive started pumping agian i have precum after about 10 minutes of pumping but only sumtimes is this normal please help u seem to kno what ure talking about thankx zac... i kno ull come through?

[lanlugyi]

Hey ,,
YOu should have rest your penis
so it can grow
do you do warm up before you exercise
take 5 mins for warm up
it is good
no pain, and the tissue are flex

best wishes,
lanlugyi

[crazyed27]

hey do u know anything about problems during pumping i had went way over the red a long time ago i only have liek one or two tiny black dots and those arent my problem my problem is that since ive started pumping agian i have precum after about 10 minutes of pumping but only sumtimes is this normal please help u seem to kno what ure talking about thankx zac... i kno ull come through?


Ladiesluvme999-

Please try your very best NOT to go into the danger zone (RED LINE). It can cause crazy blisters that will cause permanent scars, discoloration, or even permanent erectile damage. At the most after a pumping session you should only have red spots. Stay in that safe range. If you feel your not getting enough from pumping don't raise the HG's. Simply add jelqs, or other types of girth exercises at the end of your session.

As far as the pre cum goes, I say its completly normal. I get it while pumping, clamping, or jelqing.

Good Luck

Crazyed27

[crazyed27]

thanks again!
i bought a pump.
but i don't know how can i use it. it made from china .
it didn't include guide book.
last day, i got the pe guide ebook from the internet. they said that pumper didn't get permenent result. Is that right?
pls tell me.
i really want to be bigger man.
I appreciate your help.
looking forward,
lanlugyi


Pumping alone seems to only give short term temporary gains, that can last up to 36 hours or so. To see better gains with pumping add other exercises to your routine. And you will get permenent gains.

Pumping is great to be thicker for sex. Just pump a few hours before you have sex and you will be thicker than normal.

[crazyed27]

I got a question...



After the 1st week, the routine says that someone can do 2 sets every other day...

What about 1 set every day? Is that the same difference, or should the every other day thing be maintained?



Doing 1 set everyday is do-able, personally I've had better results with the everyother day routine. I do this approach because I seem to overtrain with the everyday routine. You need time for the tissue to heal from pumping. Especially if your prone to fluid buildup, I like to make sure all fluid is gone before I do another session.

Crazyed27

[xtremegamer]

I may pick up a pump soon to incorporate into my routine.

What I am thinking about doing...

-Hanging (or manual Stretches) in AM
-Pumping sessions into manual girth routine in PM.

I bet doing Supra Slammers + SSJ's after a pumping routine can really put some girth on in the long run, is this right?

[crazyed27]

I may pick up a pump soon to incorporate into my routine.

What I am thinking about doing...

-Hanging (or manual Stretches) in AM
-Pumping sessions into manual girth routine in PM.

I bet doing Supra Slammers + SSJ's after a pumping routine can really put some girth on in the long run, is this right?


Supra slammers after a pump session would be a great addition to your girth routine. Supra slammers require you to be 100% erect before a rep, at least from what I remember. Supra slammers after pumping? Awsome! _____running to go get my pump, searching supra slammers! :)

[demolition_man]

You guys have more courage than I do :O

I used to do supra slammers before I started pumping, and it is an intense exercise!

After pumping, my dick tends to be a bit sore and tender. I don't think it would take too kindly to being super slammed after a pumping session rofl

~Demolition Man

[crazyed27]

You guys have more courage than I do :O

I used to do supra slammers before I started pumping, and it is an intense exercise!

After pumping, my dick tends to be a bit sore and tender. I don't think it would take too kindly to being super slammed after a pumping session rofl

~Demolition Man


You would most likley cut back on your time in the pump because you would not need an hour, if you were to do supra slammers after the session, or even between sets. I bet that after only 2 sets in the pump with supra slammers between sets would make your dick fat as fuck and worked out as fuck.

Try 5mins pump, 5 supra slammers, 5min pump, 5 supra slammers, and then your dick would feel done.

[demolition_man]

You would most likley cut back on your time in the pump because you would not need an hour, if you were to do supra slammers after the session, or even between sets. I bet that after only 2 sets in the pump with supra slammers between sets would make your dick fat as fuck and worked out as fuck.

Try 5mins pump, 5 supra slammers, 5min pump, 5 supra slammers, and then your dick would feel done.

Sounds like a plan man..

Are you going to try it? If you do, tell me how it goes.. Although at this point, I'm more interested in gaining length than girth as I'm at 6 inches circumference.

But still, curiousity is a helluva thing rofl

~Demolition Man

[crazyed27]

Sounds like a plan man..

Are you going to try it? If you do, tell me how it goes.. Although at this point, I'm more interested in gaining length than girth as I'm at 6 inches circumference.

But still, curiousity is a helluva thing rofl

~Demolition Man


Yeah I'll try it, too me it seems like if you don't have a lot of time for a session this might be the answer, I say you could do this in 30mins or less, and still get a good ass workout.

I let you know what my post workout was like, after I try it.

[dongosattack]

I have a question for some one with experience in pumping.

Ive been PE for about 4 months. Ive been pumping for over 2 months. With a few week breaks in between.

My routine goes like this.

Warm Up
Normal Noob stretches
Jelq for 5-8 minutes
Pump at about 3-4 HG for 10 minutes
2-3 minutes Jelq
10 minute pump at 4-5 HG
Jelq 5 minutes
Warm Down
Kegals

My question being. I dont see flacid results throughout the day after pumping. Is it because I have not been doing it long enough? Not enough time in between sessions? The only other reason I could see it being is i usually masterbath after my last session/jelq. Could this be it?

Thanks for the help

[crazyed27]

I have a question for some one with experience in pumping.

Ive been PE for about 4 months. Ive been pumping for over 2 months. With a few week breaks in between.

My routine goes like this.

Warm Up
Normal Noob stretches
Jelq for 5-8 minutes
Pump at about 3-4 HG for 10 minutes
2-3 minutes Jelq
10 minute pump at 4-5 HG
Jelq 5 minutes
Warm Down
Kegals

My question being. I dont see flacid results throughout the day after pumping. Is it because I have not been doing it long enough? Not enough time in between sessions? The only other reason I could see it being is i usually masterbath after my last session/jelq. Could this be it?

Thanks for the help

You dont see any difference at all?

[dongosattack]

Its hard for me to say because I didnt do exact measurments when I started off. But im not noticing significant gains. Does the masterbathing after excersises affect it? My second guess would be because I have took a few weeks off at a time for vacations etc. So that could be it? Or should I try 20 minute pump sessions.

Thanks for responding

[crazyed27]

Its hard for me to say because I didnt do exact measurments when I started off. But im not noticing significant gains. Does the masterbathing after excersises affect it? My second guess would be because I have took a few weeks off at a time for vacations etc. So that could be it? Or should I try 20 minute pump sessions.

Thanks for responding




Significant gains will not happen. Small slight gains will.

Try this measure your erect girth before the session, then after the session measure your erect girth. You should see a difference. The eye can plat tricks on you, so can your sense of feeling. What are your thoughts while your doing your session?

How do you jelq? and do you cum after evey session?

[dongosattack]

Thanks ill try the measuring before and after of girth. I dont cum after every session probley after about 70% though. I think i jelq correctly but im not completely sure. 2 hands/lube about 5 minutes at a time

I was realizing yesterday too. Could it be because my pump is slightly too big? My ballsack doesnt get caught up in it. But a little bit of the top of my sack goes in the tube when i fill it with air. No balls though?

Thanks for all the help crazyed

[crazyed27]

This might sound kinda of strange, but hell PE sounds kinda of strange to the outsider. Have you ever watched your dick in the mirror during a session. Well truth be told I do, and I see my dick getting, fatter, longer and veins sticking out more. I guess its like a bodybuilder that likes to flex in the mirror during his workout. I know when I lifted weights I could see a difference in my muscles during a workout. They looked tighter, fuller, and I had more veins popping out. I do the same with PE, and I can really see the difference, between my workout erection, or semi erection compared to my non workout erection or semi.

[dongosattack]

ya i get what your saying... what do you think about getting a 1 size smaller tube? you think that would effect?

[crazyed27]

ya i get what your saying... what do you think about getting a 1 size smaller tube? you think that would effect?


What is your biggest unpumped erect girth measurements? and what size of tube do you have? Tell me this and I give you the best answer I can.

[niac7]

Hello,

I've seen lots of good stuff in this forum and am interested in pumping.

I've read in some places that pumping gains are not permanent though. They usually state that the size gain only lasts while in the pump and shortly there after.

I would think that pumping over time would have long term gains though IMO.

Can an experienced pumper let me know how this works from his experience?

And how long will it be before seeing some permanent gains through pumping if I was doing CrazyEds program.

Thanks

[roddthewadd64]

Pumping is like bodybuilding...some get gains very quickly while others gain somewhat slower.no two units are the same but,if you stick with the routine within the first few months you should see length as well as girth gains.For some girth comes easy,speaking for myself length was the easiest to attain.but then again.....ive been a pumper since 92and to me its like lifting weights,its part of keeping myself healthy.get yourself a good quality pump , and stick with it.given time you'll see results.Also do the manual stretches daily,its very beneficial to keeping length gains.

[j diggs]

do u recommend donuts like the silicone or cyberrrskin ones??

[roddthewadd64]

do u recommend donuts like the silicone or cyberrrskin ones??Its best to purchase a quality pump with the flared opening as it gets a great seal.the rubber donuts you speak of often lose vacuum.

[blackster1975]

crazy i'm thinking about getting a pump i'm currently 6.25 long when erect and 5" Girth, what tube & pump would you recommend, i also live in the uk. Great post by the way.

[roddthewadd64]

Vacu-tech is top of the line but,if you're tight for money...the Kaplan pump will suffice for a fraction of the cost.

[blackster1975]

thx rod, with my gith being 5" what diameter tube would be besty ?

[Chaco]

thx rod, with my gith being 5" what diameter tube would be besty ?

2"x9"

[roddthewadd64]

1 3/4 a 2inch tops!any larger tube and you're in for a painful experience by having your scrotum sucked into the tube.they should have a sizing chart.

[Chaco]

1 3/4 a 2inch tops!any larger tube and you're in for a painful experience by having your scrotum sucked into the tube.they should have a sizing chart.

I could use a 1 3/4 but the Ebay deal was for a 2 and 3 inch Kaplan. The 3 for balls too.

I wrap my balls with some ace wrap that way I don't have too much skin being sucked into the tube. It works well for me.

[collegekat]

Crazyed27,
Im confused by your post. And surprised no one else caught on to the mixed up information you provided. In your post you say "But if you are 5.5in of girth stick with the 2in tube, the 2.25in will be too big and you will have problems getting a seal and your balls will get sucked up into the tube." Yet in the list you say "1.75in Tube size 5.5in Girth" and "2in Tube size 6.25in Girth" Which one is it? Also, is this according to the girth of the middle of the penis or base of the penis? Considering that the tubes opening is best fitted to the girth of the base...

[roddthewadd64]

Crazyed27,
Im confused by your post. And surprised no one else caught on to the mixed up information you provided. In your post you say "But if you are 5.5in of girth stick with the 2in tube, the 2.25in will be too big and you will have problems getting a seal and your balls will get sucked up into the tube." Yet in the list you say "1.75in Tube size 5.5in Girth" and "2in Tube size 6.25in Girth" Which one is it? Also, is this according to the girth of the middle of the penis or base of the penis? Considering that the tubes opening is best fitted to the girth of the base...we're just tossing around numbers for the most part,the best advice i can give you is to use their sizing chart!vacu-tech has a sizing chart to order by,use it for an exact fit...and remember,no 2 people are the same!For some a 2inch tube is too big,it all depends on your unit....USE THE SIZING CHART!NUFF SAID!

[niac7]

The pumps online are pretty expensive and I am only experimenting with the pump at this time.

I saw a pump in Insurrection adult store with a pressure gauge for about $75. Thinking of trying it out, but most people suggest the porn store pumps are garbage.

My dilemma is also that my current girlfriend is EXTREMELY impressed with my current size and says it is wonderful to her. I am currently at 7in NBPEL & about 5.5in girth about midshaft with a really big Head that she loves.

I think my ego wants larger since she implies to have seen larger but says she can handle anything "too large".

I just want to get to about 8 X 6. I used PE to get to my current size. Mainly jelqing and stretches. However, I have somewhat of a baseball bat. Not too bad, but the base is clearly a bit less think than the mid-shaft & head. I'm hoping pumping can even this out a bit and give me the slightly larger size I want.

Again, the size gain is for my ego only it seems, but I feel like I have to try. My question is would any good pump with a gauge be safe and effective or do I have to invest in one on the internet. I really don't want my girl to know and a big package in the mail would raise questions, whereas, with a pump from the local sex shop, I could easily sneak it in and hide it and use it early in the morning before work.

Any suggestions????

[niac7]

woops, I meant she CAN'T handle anything too large

[blackster1975]

I have just started jelqing is it better to wait until my penis is more conditioned before I start pumping. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[crazyed27]

Crazyed27,
Im confused by your post. And surprised no one else caught on to the mixed up information you provided. In your post you say "But if you are 5.5in of girth stick with the 2in tube, the 2.25in will be too big and you will have problems getting a seal and your balls will get sucked up into the tube." Yet in the list you say "1.75in Tube size 5.5in Girth" and "2in Tube size 6.25in Girth" Which one is it? Also, is this according to the girth of the middle of the penis or base of the penis? Considering that the tubes opening is best fitted to the girth of the base...



Fuck you troll! Pick it apart all you want I stated the facts. Look asshole I stated the max for each tube size and from my experience. You can go to any pump site and get different information on the size of tube you need. But since you only have one post, you can suck my pumped 7 in girth cock you short bus riding fucker!

[crazyed27]

I have just started jelqing is it better to wait until my penis is more conditioned before I start pumping. Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Yes! wait like 3 months then begin to pump.

[10inchadvantage]

Fuck you troll! Pick it apart all you want I stated the facts. Look asshole I stated the max for each tube size and from my experience. You can go to any pump site and get different information on the size of tube you need. But since you only have one post, you can suck my pumped 7 in girth cock you short bus riding fucker!

Hey man calm down, he was just asking a question. Everyone has to start somewhere, we must be helpful to those who are new.

[crazyed27]

Hey man calm down, he was just asking a question. Everyone has to start somewhere, we must be helpful to those who are new.



Your right, I need to relax, Damn I need some anger managment. My fault MOS.

[MissionPossible]

How much girth have you gained from pumping, I have trouble gaining girth as you can see from my sig, I am definetly thinking of giving pumping a go.

[crazyed27]

How much girth have you gained from pumping, I have trouble gaining girth as you can see from my sig, I am definetly thinking of giving pumping a go.



Pumping and clamping combined will give you grazy girth. Pump then clamp while edging. I can get an extra inch of girth just for sex after that. I can provide pics to prove it.

[BoredLoser]

every time i finish a pumping set my dick just deflates :confused: its a very de-motivating sight haha. i must be doin something wrong. i usually do 10 min sets at 5hg

[crazyed27]

every time i finish a pumping set my dick just deflates :confused: its a very de-motivating sight haha. i must be doin something wrong. i usually do 10 min sets at 5hg


Do you keep an erection when in the pump?

[BoredLoser]

Do you keep an erection when in the pump?

im not sure its kinda hard to tell

[crazyed27]

im not sure its kinda hard to tell



Try this get a full erection before going into the pump, then pump for 5 mins at 5hg or less and try to maintain the erection by way of kegels and milking the tube. Release the pressure and get to full erection as fast as possible and make that last 5 mins, then repeat 2 more times.

Do that and get back at me and tell me your experince, you should have no issues with your dick feeling deflated with that routine.

C-ED

[BoredLoser]

Try this get a full erection before going into the pump, then pump for 5 mins at 5hg or less and try to maintain the erection by way of kegels and milking the tube. Release the pressure and get to full erection as fast as possible and make that last 5 mins, then repeat 2 more times.

Do that and get back at me and tell me your experince, you should have no issues with your dick feeling deflated with that routine.

C-ED

yea u were right i wasn't hard before, i guess it just felt like i was cuz of the suction. i just did two 5 min sets at 4-5hg rubbing the tube and kegels with some good porn and yeah that worked. i'll test out doin that longer later tonight

[raiderred]

Thanks for the info!http://www.watchproject-runway.info/ve.jpg

[Syd Kitten]

Quick question. I've had a kaplan pump system for a while but I want to move on to a non-tapered cylinder. Will the pump I have connect to the new cylinder or am I better off buying a whole new (expensive, $130) vacutech set?

[crazyed27]

Quick question. I've had a kaplan pump system for a while but I want to move on to a non-tapered cylinder. Will the pump I have connect to the new cylinder or am I better off buying a whole new (expensive, $130) vacutech set?


I believe all couplers male and female from professional products like Kaplan, Vacutech, Boston, Lapdist are all universial, meaning there all the same size. All these sites sell couplers as eaches so take a look at them, they might even show whay size coupler they use.

[10inchadvantage]

Quick question. I've had a kaplan pump system for a while but I want to move on to a non-tapered cylinder. Will the pump I have connect to the new cylinder or am I better off buying a whole new (expensive, $130) vacutech set?

Does it have a male connector on the end that fits with Vacutech (their specs are on the site, they sell the connectors)? If not, you'll need to get another hand pump. There is a Harbor Freight one that is excellent and only cost me $15 at the time.

[crazyed27]

Does it have a male connector on the end that fits with Vacutech (their specs are on the site, they sell the connectors)? If not, you'll need to get another hand pump. There is a Harbor Freight one that is excellent and only cost me $15 at the time.


Yes the Kaplans have the male and female couplers.

[Syd Kitten]

The couplers appear to be the same so I think I'm safe in that regard. Thanks for the tips guys. Going to peek into HF out of curiosity.

[crazyed27]

The couplers appear to be the same so I think I'm safe in that regard. Thanks for the tips guys. Going to peek into HF out of curiosity.

HF? What is that?

[doublelongdaddy]

Excellent Thread! Reread today:)

[growler7inch]

how can you pump if you have a webbed penis ie my balls are attached to the shaft to much (bad cercumcision) and they naturally get sucked into tube

[Syd Kitten]

I have a devastating turkey neck like that but I have no problems keeping my balls from being sucked in. You just need to position it right and not use excessive lubrication.

[crazyed27]

how can you pump if you have a webbed penis ie my balls are attached to the shaft to much (bad cercumcision) and they naturally get sucked into tube


Are you sure you are using the correct sized tube for your girth? Let me know your girth size and then tube size, I'll let you know my thought on it. Nothing worse than having your balls sucked into the tube at the wrong moment.

[Supra]

Thanks for all your guidance Crazyed27, I have started pumping again and I am using your guide!

[crazyed27]

Thanks for all your guidance Crazyed27, I have started pumping again and I am using your guide!



Thanks Supra, glad to see your still going at it brother!

[Supra]

Man I have been pumping daily since reading you guide. I still had all my pumps and cylinders and I guess I just got back into it. It is really helping me with my peyronies and my foreskin restoration. I love the benefits, and it feels so great with an electric pump.

[10inchadvantage]

Man I have been pumping daily since reading you guide. I still had all my pumps and cylinders and I guess I just got back into it. It is really helping me with my peyronies and my foreskin restoration. I love the benefits, and it feels so great with an electric pump.

How does electric pumping compare to hand pumping? Do you maintain an erection because it feels so good, hands free? I was thinking of getting a QS-7 electric pump, it looks amazing.

[crazyed27]

Man I have been pumping daily since reading you guide. I still had all my pumps and cylinders and I guess I just got back into it. It is really helping me with my peyronies and my foreskin restoration. I love the benefits, and it feels so great with an electric pump.



Thats good news Supra! Man I love the idea of the electric pump that has to be sweet man! :)

[Supra]

You dont have one? Its great man, its like getting blow job while doing PE! IT keeps you erect without having to try so hard to do so.

[Supra]

How does electric pumping compare to hand pumping? Do you maintain an erection because it feels so good, hands free? I was thinking of getting a QS-7 electric pump, it looks amazing.

You got it! It feels incredible and is very addicting.

[big bori333]

I dont know if its been mentioned but which is better to do first pump or clamp in a continuous girt session.

[Kokobo]

This was a REALLY useful post. I'll try to take your advise.

[j diggs]

hey crazyed, noticed u gained about 1 inch erection lenght, is that just by pumping alone?? Or do you involve other aspects of penis enlargement?

[j diggs]

hey crazyed27 , do u use one of those silicone donuts with your cylinder, or do u prefer not using one. I am undecicive on the whole donut thing.To give you a brief history on me, i have been pumping seriously now for about 10 years, and i have gained lenght i know for sure.I wish i had an accurate measurement beforre ever starting pumping but i know i was no more than 6.5" erect lenght and now i am about 7.25" long.I think length gains can be made thru pumping , but they are nothing extaordinary, and it takes a lot of time.Well thats me in a nutshell crazyed27, hope you can give me some feed back on the question regarding whether u use or dont use a silicone donut?
thanks and cheers!

[IneedmoreFG]

Hi there guys.
it would be nice if you cloud help me out with a few answers.

i am pumping according to crazyed27 guide, im doing it quite carefully but i keep getting little red blood spots, which disapear after one day. but then its time for pumping again and new ones appear. i guess i cant do anything about it.

first and most important and interestin question for me is:

1.is it possible to gain in flaccied girth and length? also permanently ? and when should i see first results ?

i am in my 4th week now and i`m doing two sets every second day for 10 minutesat the second mark.
yet i am not seeing any temporery results. it would even be fine if i had to pump every day if the gains would stay for the day.


2.what about having an orgasm after pumping, allowed or not? could it be contra produktiv ?

3.how long should a break be between the sets ?

4.then there is another question, at my pressure scale from 0 hg to 5hg there are only 3 "big" marks not 4 like i think there should be. so its like 1 hg , 2hg, 3hg, 5hg.

can someone explain that to me ? and tell me where the real 3hg is ? i am always pumping at the second mark. cause from 5hg to 10hg there are 4 marks.


sorry to bother you. and excuse my bad english . and thanks for any answer.

[REDZULU2003]

Let me just add to this thread, as I see it as a starting point for anyone wishing to seek guidance on this subject instead of searching hundreads of posts here.

Wear a condom before you enter the tube and it will reduce fluid build-up and bruising.

[roddthewadd64]

To prevent the doughnut and bruising ive found the best alternative is taking breaks every 15 minutes and stretch/massage.ive pumped for 2.5 hours before and never had any difficulty.ive known others who had great success with the condom as well.ive never tried it myself.

[crazyed27]

Let me just add to this thread, as I see it as a starting point for anyone wishing to seek guidance on this subject instead of searching hundreads of posts here.

Wear a condom before you enter the tube and it will reduce fluid build-up and bruising.


Thanks Red!!! Good advice!!! Nice to see your still kicking it!!!!:)

[IneedmoreFG]

i am always wearing acondom while pumping. the red dots and fluid build up arent a problem to me.

i am only afraid that if you keep pumping for years you`ll end up having a dark dick or these brown spots like those two have

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=19227&d=1206086473

http://www.bigckhead.fr/viewer.php?albid=244&stage=1&pn=2#tn


do you have any discolouration carzyed ?

[eurotrash]

Your welcome. :)


I have a Kaplan pump, not the best pump but it has a gauge and gives the post workout fatty I like to have! I really am not a fan of the tube because it is tapered. Smaller at the tip, and thicker at the base, it has giving me an even more tapered dck than I already had. I'm natrually thicker at the base.

Gains- With pumping it is very hard to keep track of your gains, this could be a downside of pumping. Your size especially girth will vary day to day when you throw pumping into the mix. Pumping is a great addition to a regular routine. It assists in erection strength as well and temporay .5in increases in girth for sex. Yes 1/2in extra for sex. Put it this way my erect mid shaft girth can be 6in or all the way up to 6.75in depending on the day and how recently I have pumped. My flaccid seems to keep on getting heavier, thicker and longer. Flaccid is 6 x5 to 7 x 6 once again depending on how long ago I have finished a pumping session.


Your flacid is thicker then me hard, and just as long.. that is depressing.

[REDZULU2003]

Good example of what NOT to aim for. This is over pumping, excess fluid retention.

http://t2.imgchili.com/1003/1003025_how-to-pump-your-coc.jpg (http://imgchili.com/show/1003/1003025_how-to-pump-your-coc.jpg)