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arkie
12-08-05, 05:10 PM
Has anyone heard about using Tongkat Ali to make your balls bigger? Anyone tried this? Not looking for a lower hang or bigger erect penis. Genetics treated me fine on that part. Just wanting to give the twins a growth spurt.

going4nine
12-08-05, 06:02 PM
Has anyone heard about using Tongkat Ali to make your balls bigger? Anyone tried this? Not looking for a lower hang or bigger erect penis. Genetics treated me fine on that part. Just wanting to give the twins a growth spurt.
I've been taking it for roughly 2.5 weeks, now, and have a visibly noticable increase in ball size, as well as being MUCH more horny. I'm taking 1.2g/day of 1:200 extract.

sasquatch
12-08-05, 06:08 PM
I've used Tongkat-ali before. It's expensive and the quantity you recieve is very small. Wicked bitter, just the taste has been known to make people puke. Like any herbal, results will build over time (sometimes this may take months). I personally did'nt use it for more than 2 weeks consecutivly, so I can not give an honest judgement on Tongkats effectiveness.

Siberian Ginseng (now called Eleutherococcus senticosus) is know to increase testicle size over time.

Vacuum pumping is also known to permantly increase testicle size.

sasquatch
12-08-05, 06:11 PM
going4nine, where you buying from and how much $$

going4nine
12-08-05, 06:24 PM
going4nine, where you buying from and how much $$
http://www.tongkatali.org/

I ordered 100 gelcaps at 600mg each for 270. I plan to keep taking it, so I'll order in volume next time. With the economics of scale, the price per dose will significantly decrease.

going4nine
12-08-05, 06:25 PM
Siberian Ginseng (now called Eleutherococcus senticosus) is know to increase testicle size over time.
Do you have links to any studies on that?

sasquatch
12-08-05, 06:48 PM
The tongkat I bought is called "LJ100". I paid about $140.00 for 30g. Uncapsulated. Each bag contained 10g and say's 100 servings per 10g. Nothing masks the taste, I gag swallowing it down, makes the hair on my arms stand on end (btw, medical term for that is piloerection).

I've heard of people snorting it, I could fuckin' imagine. Pop open one of your capsules and tell me what you think.

I'll look for the stuff on Siberian Ginseng.

Bionic
12-08-05, 08:42 PM
Vacuum pumping is also known to permantly increase testicle size.

False. However, they will/may hang lower due to the skin stretching. When you pump them, you are only drawing fluid into the sack, not actually enlarging the nuts.

going4nine
12-08-05, 09:16 PM
The tongkat I bought is called "LJ100". I paid about $140.00 for 30g. Uncapsulated. Each bag contained 10g and say's 100 servings per 10g. Nothing masks the taste, I gag swallowing it down, makes the hair on my arms stand on end (btw, medical term for that is piloerection).

I've heard of people snorting it, I could fuckin' imagine. Pop open one of your capsules and tell me what you think.

I'll look for the stuff on Siberian Ginseng.
My bottle came packaged with a bag of tongkat ali, gratis. There was a light dusting outside of the bag, and I tasted a little of that. No WAY am I eating this stuff raw. If I were you, I'd get some empty gelcaps and fill them yourself. It's infinitly more palateable.

Pandora
12-08-05, 09:35 PM
I found some Tongkat-Ali on ebay it cheap like $25 dont know weather its very strong. Im gonna try some i think not sure weather its a scam or not.

Looking for stuff to rise my T and to get bigger loads.

here's the link to the Tongkat-Ali on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/TONGKAT-ALI-50-1-EXTRACT-60-CAPSULES-500MG-EACH_W0QQitemZ5642560730QQcategoryZ19261QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

going4nine
12-08-05, 09:59 PM
I found some Tongkat-Ali on ebay it cheap like $25 dont know weather its very strong. Im gonna try some i think not sure weather its a scam or not.

Looking for stuff to rise my T and to get bigger loads.

here's the link to the Tongkat-Ali on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/TONGKAT-ALI-50-1-EXTRACT-60-CAPSULES-500MG-EACH_W0QQitemZ5642560730QQcategoryZ19261QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I'd be wary of it, personally. It's a load of shit that 1:100 is less effective than 1:50. The higher the concentration, the better. Tongkat Ali needs to be highly extracted to be potent. If it's the unprocessed herb, the active compounds per dose will be so small as to be ineffective. In that form, it's almost all cellulose fiber. The more it's extracted, the more the active compounds will be present in a given sized dose.

going4nine
12-08-05, 10:17 PM
Looking for stuff to rise my T and to get bigger loads.
I should also mention that I haven't seen an increase in load size, at least not yet. It's gotten very white and thick, though. L-Arginine and some other supplements should help with volume.

sasquatch
12-08-05, 11:35 PM
False. However, they will/may hang lower due to the skin stretching. When you pump them, you are only drawing fluid into the sack, not actually enlarging the nuts.

I agree that temporary lymphatic swelling will result in the appearance of testiclular enlargement. I have read from experienced "ball pumpers" that permanent testicle enlargement does occur from repeated sessions of ball pumping, the term they use is "low hangers"

arkie
12-09-05, 05:10 PM
So what do you think is the best way to go? 1:50, 1:100, 1:200, 1:400?

What is the difference between LJ100 and regular Tongkat Ali?

Are there any side effects to watch out for? Are the results permenant or is it a temporary deal?

Pandora
12-09-05, 05:22 PM
He says stuff the other way around any way

50:1 EXTRACT and 1:50 EXTRACT mean the same thing. The active ingredients from 50 grams is EXTRACTED to produce 1 gram of potent product.
DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE 100:1 PRODUCTS - 50:1 EXTRACT IS THE BEST VALUE FOR THE MONEY. THE AMOUNTS IN THE 100:1 PRODUCTS ARE TO SMALL, TYPICALLY 100MG OR LESS - I GIVE YOU 500MG OF 50:1 EXTRACT WHICH IS FAR BETTER!

so gods knows it weird that it so cheap. Its kinda expensive on http://www.tongkatali.org/retailcapsules.htm

i would not want to pay that every couple of months if i got hooked lol

German Stallion
12-09-05, 06:08 PM
False. However, they will/may hang lower due to the skin stretching. When you pump them, you are only drawing fluid into the sack, not actually enlarging the nuts.

you are totally correct, pumping will not increase your testicle size, just make the skin stretch. GS

Pandora
12-10-05, 06:03 PM
I should also mention that I haven't seen an increase in load size, at least not yet. It's gotten very white and thick, though. L-Arginine and some other supplements should help with volume.

Is this stuff ok to get http://www.genavita.com/ishop/1/shopscr28.html

German Stallion
12-10-05, 06:16 PM
L Arginine can be bought cheap at Wal Mart. I don't know where you are, but it is cheap stuff at some of the chain marts. GS

Pandora
12-10-05, 08:06 PM
L Arginine can be bought cheap at Wal Mart. I don't know where you are, but it is cheap stuff at some of the chain marts. GS

im in the uk is that stuff ok on that page it cheap on the page just dont know if thats ok .

German Stallion
12-10-05, 09:01 PM
yes, those things are okay. GS

going4nine
12-10-05, 09:05 PM
Is this stuff ok to get http://www.genavita.com/ishop/1/shopscr28.html
I use this stuff (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/larg.html), and just mix it in with my protein shakes. I have no idea about shipping, though.

Pandora
12-10-05, 11:16 PM
yes, those things are okay. GS

Ok thanks.

jody
12-20-05, 05:31 PM
this guy has done a lot of research on tongkat.

http://www.sexualenhancement.org/

he says it does make your actual testicles bigger, and makes you gain muscle faster in the gym, and makes you horny. generally i think the idea is that tongkat stimulates your brain to stimulate your balls to make more testosterone.

jsmith255
04-02-07, 10:56 PM
I tried Tongkat Ali and had a different reaction. It made my joints hurt- specifically my knees.
Don't ask me how or why, but I've gone on it for a week or two, and ended up with joint aches and knee pains, and when I went off it, it went away. I really didn't notice any other benefit. It must cause some sort of inflammation of the tissues.

I kept thinking it was something unrelated, and had kept reading about the stuff and never a thing about this reaction. But after the last episode I just poured the pills down the drain. I'd had enough........! Never again.