View Full Version : Phenibut kills anxiety!!!
REDZULU2003
06-07-06, 01:57 PM
Okay this is a quick review of my experience with the drug Phenibut.
Go here to find out all about it http://www.1fast400.com/?ingredients_id=64 and also buy it from www.1fast400.com because that has the best price for the quantitiy and quality you get from what I found.
Now you can search the net ALL DAY for advice and what dosage to take and I tell you your mind will be fucked with it all, so check this page out http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.drugs.ghb/msg/d080c4b5547fc99c which has feedback on many people who have used it, its nearly all positive with some neautral and some bad ... the main thing is lots of feedback which is hard to get in one place on the drug and also dosage advice.
My advice is to start with take 1 gram of the stuff and see how it goes with you. It will not work straight away, this stuff is very subtle. After one hour you will feel different, more relaxed but you wont know why or how if you know what I mean .... than after 4 hours you REALLY feel it ... you get a slight drunk feelings but you are always in conctrol, you feel very relaxed.
It kills all anxiety ... after you have used 1 grams and thought it was good or not good enough than you can move onto more ... I would suggest anywhere from 1-4 grams of the stuff ... but BEWARE 3 grams will really make you feel it, and you will be super relaxed and much more happy than normal.
My findings with this are that it kills anxiety, makes you more sociable, more confident as it kills the anxiety, more sociable, more positive ... its great stuff but DO NOT USE IT EVERYDAY because you build tolerance and it wont work as effective so use it on a 2 on 2 off basis or 3 on with one week off.
I have used it four times now, three days in a row with the third being not very effective but used it yesterday after 5 days off and it was very powerful at 3.2 grams so dont rely on it too much, take a breakl from it.
Its very useful for stressful situations such as speaking in a group ... I was in a meeting the otherday and do get nervous in them and dont like speaking much but with this stuff I didnt shut the fuck up and made very valid points ... no shit, it helped kill the anxiety I have in meetings and I performed to the peak of my ability.
Phenibut is also used by bodybuilders to relax muscles and could be used for muscle injurues to relax the muscle.
Apparently Phenibut+Alcohol is a GREAT mixture ... from all the feedback on it [see the attachment its mentioned] and the Phenibut enhances the strength of the alcohol, so you only need something weak to drink and not much of it because its effects are made allot stronger ... I used half a small bottle of Pilsner yesterday with the 3.2 grams of Phenibut and I tell you what, shit did it go to my head more than it would ... Pilsner is weak as fuck and never effects me but with the Phenibut it was allot more enhanced .. with vodka or whiskey the stuff would blow you the fuck away!!!!
I advise anyone who has anxiety or social problems .. wants to feel better or have a lift in mood, wants to speak up in a meeting than try this stuff ... it does help.
Okay this is a quick review of my experience with the drug Phenibut.
Go here to find out all about it http://www.1fast400.com/?ingredients_id=64 and also buy it from www.1fast400.com because that has the best price for the quantitiy and quality you get from what I found.
Now you can search the net ALL DAY for advice and what dosage to take and I tell you your mind will be fucked with it all, so check this page out http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.drugs.ghb/msg/d080c4b5547fc99c which has feedback on many people who have used it, its nearly all positive with some neautral and some bad ... the main thing is lots of feedback which is hard to get in one place on the drug and also dosage advice.
My advice is to start with take 1 gram of the stuff and see how it goes with you. It will not work straight away, this stuff is very subtle. After one hour you will feel different, more relaxed but you wont know why or how if you know what I mean .... than after 4 hours you REALLY feel it ... you get a slight drunk feelings but you are always in conctrol, you feel very relaxed.
It kills all anxiety ... after you have used 1 grams and thought it was good or not good enough than you can move onto more ... I would suggest anywhere from 1-4 grams of the stuff ... but BEWARE 3 grams will really make you feel it, and you will be super relaxed and much more happy than normal.
My findings with this are that it kills anxiety, makes you more sociable, more confident as it kills the anxiety, more sociable, more positive ... its great stuff but DO NOT USE IT EVERYDAY because you build tolerance and it wont work as effective so use it on a 2 on 2 off basis or 3 on with one week off.
I have used it four times now, three days in a row with the third being not very effective but used it yesterday after 5 days off and it was very powerful at 3.2 grams so dont rely on it too much, take a breakl from it.
Its very useful for stressful situations such as speaking in a group ... I was in a meeting the otherday and do get nervous in them and dont like speaking much but with this stuff I didnt shut the fuck up and made very valid points ... no shit, it helped kill the anxiety I have in meetings and I performed to the peak of my ability.
Phenibut is also used by bodybuilders to relax muscles and could be used for muscle injurues to relax the muscle.
Apparently Phenibut+Alcohol is a GREAT mixture ... from all the feedback on it [see the attachment its mentioned] and the Phenibut enhances the strength of the alcohol, so you only need something weak to drink and not much of it because its effects are made allot stronger ... I used half a small bottle of Pilsner yesterday with the 3.2 grams of Phenibut and I tell you what, shit did it go to my head more than it would ... Pilsner is weak as fuck and never effects me but with the Phenibut it was allot more enhanced .. with vodka or whiskey the stuff would blow you the fuck away!!!!
I advise anyone who has anxiety or social problems .. wants to feel better or have a lift in mood, wants to speak up in a meeting than try this stuff ... it does help.
RED i think this stuff could do me some good. I'm gonna give it a try and see what happens. thx alot bro for looking out for us.
johnc83
06-12-06, 06:09 PM
alcohol will increase your anxiety the folowing day,i have a hard time with anxiety and also booze as i was using booze to take away the anxiety but the after effects are just not worth it.... i end up drying out from booze for 2 weeks and kid myself that im fine to drink so i do then i get messed up on it....
REDZULU2003
07-06-06, 02:30 PM
If you take alcohol with this at a low dosage its FANTASTIC.
The Phenibut makes the alcohol STRONGER and react more in your body and you'll feel it more so you dont need much drink to feel it.
Be VERY careful if you are using Phenibut+Alcohol as you can go crazy and go fuckin overboard very easy.
I tried Guiness with phenibut at 3.5 grams [my usual succesful dosage] and man I felt fuckin great, NO anxiety and lots more happy and chatty but not drunk yet had the good effects of alcohol.
Phenibut is a POWERFUL overlooked drug and it DOES work to clear your mind, make you focus and kill anxiety .... I work HARDER with this shit as it clears your mind like a slate.
I take anywhere from 3.5 to 5 grams in one sitting about twice per week.
REDZULU2003
07-06-06, 02:38 PM
RED i think this stuff could do me some good. I'm gonna give it a try and see what happens. thx alot bro for looking out for us.
Tell me how you went on mate :)
Can you drive while on Phenibut? :-O
Sounds a lot like GHB/GBL to me. Does it also increase tactile sensations and boost libido?
:)
REDZULU2003
07-07-06, 03:20 PM
BDS > I suppose it depends on how it effects you and how much you take.
Be careful when takeing new things like this until you know how it effects you.
I aint had trouble with it but some might when driving so be vigilant.
Franz > I have heard this also but mixed accounts. Some say its better and some say its nothing close but what many say is IT WORKS and makes you more chilled out and relaxed. MANY have said when Phenibut is combined with alcohol its just like GHB.
REDZULU2003
08-09-06, 06:39 PM
Can't belive how ignorant people are to this ..... the stuff WORKS and its LEGAL .... FOR NOW!!!!!
Can't belive how ignorant people are to this ..... the stuff WORKS and its LEGAL .... FOR NOW!!!!!
You sound like an addict somehow.
For me as european it is easy to order some GBL to clean my abode from graffity and such I have no use for substitutes of dubious nature and action.
I want to add that I never encountered anything which works quick and not debilitating as 0,2ml GBL do against this sneaking in of suicide. You know? This flashing up that killing yourself is just rational?
If you donīt know - forget about it.
REDZULU2003
08-10-06, 08:08 PM
Phenibut kills anxiety, thats my point and many dont realise how useful it is ... nope aint an addict of anything, use it in moderation from time to time.
goldmember
10-20-06, 12:40 AM
I'm actually thinking of trying it just for the sake of trying it. You know, see if it works. I've used GABA before, didn't really notice anything drastic. Helped me sleep, and gave me a flush if I took too much, but other than that nothing.
GHB is able to permeate the blood-brain barrier, so that is why GHB is effective and GABA isn't. The thing about Phenibut is that it is GABA with a phenyl ring substituent at the beta carbon. This non-polar group makes it permeable, and this is confirmed by studies.
So theoretically, it should work just like GHB. GHB is very permeable, but since it differs somewhat from the actual neurotransmitter (GABA), it is less effective than endogenous GABA. Since Phenibut has the exact same functional groups as GABA, it should be just as effective as endogenous GABA.
I have been reading a bit of reviews, and those who have tried GHB and Phenibut would say GHB works much better. WHy is this? Well, I would guess that although Phenibut is more effective at the receptor, it is much less permeable to the brain. Just because it is permeable, doesn't mean it is 100% permeable (like endogenous GABA).
So anyway, I think I might try this some time. Anyone else have a report they'd like to give?
REDZULU2003
10-21-06, 12:00 PM
I still use it from time to time and it WORKS the shitz mate.
Also makes your weight sessions better as your mental focus is sheer crazy ... take like 2-3 hours before a session.
I use it just to chill me out.
REDZULU2003
09-24-07, 09:46 PM
Used 2G of this than 1 hour later took another 2G than went to work and had a fantastic shift ... felt great, worked my balls off with little effort and was cool ... this stuff has feelings of alcohol as I have said but your IN CONTROL and you know whats what but too much can make your speech slightly lazy and your eyes also focus harder ... in extreme cases when i took 10g once over one year ago I think, my throat tightens up.
I would advise 2-6g took as a anxiety killer ... this shit aint going to be like a weed substitute or shit like that because it isnt the same kind of drug or works the same part of the brain ... this stuff is powerful though and does ease anxierty without knociking one for six and effecting brain function but in high dosages it can be more sedative.
If you take this with alcohol than be prepared to get knocked for six.
kfarrelldba
11-05-07, 09:13 AM
What I find is that anything that lifts you up, eventually drops you down and hard. Is that the case with this stuff? Like klonazepam. I have .5 mg tabs which are the weakest you can get.
Sometimes I take a 1/2 of one if I'm feeling edgy. But 3 hours later I'm tired as hell. Is that the case with this stuff?
I don't drink because of the same reason. Drink a few drinks, couple hours later = exhausted. I don't understand alchohol. I like stuff that gives me energy like tramadol and vicodin and perks. But, same thing, few hours later your dropped hard on your ass.
Kevin
Screw medication. You're only funding the deceptive marketing system, you think you really need that shit? Tap into your subconcious, learn your body and become one, learn to medidate clear your thoughts and enlighten them with positivity and self awareness. Psychoactive therapy has never amazed me more, ever, since the day I did Acid. You will realize you don't need that shit, you don't need ANYTHING except the clean crisp beautiful air we breathe. Enlighten yourself.
REDZULU2003
11-11-07, 11:25 AM
kfarrelldba, yea ther is a down to it if you take too much. For a starter I would say 1g is enough and than work towards 3g but take it only say twice a week to get great feelings from it.
The stuff will work anytime to delay ejaculation and intensify orgasm [for me] but the relaxation feelings are tolerance driven and if you take too much reguler than you get very tired and sedated so be careful but worth it and this drug is very nontoxic and its legal and proven to work.
Smertrios
12-21-07, 11:44 AM
Can you disolve the powder to take the phenibut or is it better to use caps?
Smertrios
12-29-07, 05:25 PM
I tried about 2.6 grams (1 tsp) of phenibut and got a drunken like feeling and am more chatty on my computer =P... drinking a beer now (now = 5 hours after taking the phenibut) and will reply about how much it adds to the beers effect. Its really not 100% like being drunk tho I am not wasted by the phenibut but definitely has some of the effect of being really wasted (but nothing negative noticed yet).
Smertrios
12-30-07, 11:34 AM
Drank a couple beers and didn't notice any additional effects from drinking it while under the influence of phenibut... It disolves in water well does anyone know if that **VERY** strong grapefruit taste is the normal taste of phenibut or is it an additive?
Threak-X
12-30-07, 12:45 PM
Why the search and use of such drugs to cure your own aliments?
20 years ago I had the same issues with major depression, anxiety, insomnia. Everyone including doctors and nurses I knew were recommending drugs, alcohol, herb you name it they were trying to sell it to me. I did research on the issue(s) and discovered the one thing that works for me and I still use it to this day ... Mediation instead of Medication.
Once I learned to tap into the Alpha Level of my brain-waves things changed for me. I learned to relax the mind and get into a calm demeanor for the day and all it's unexpected events. You can actually program thoughts into your sub-conscious mind so the conscious mind will fulfill your tasks.
Believe it or not, I actually found the MoS web-site by doing this. I spent wasting time and money on other sites looking for a way to enlarge my penis with no avail. I got into my Alpha-Level asking for an answer to P.E. and visually saw the word "MOS penis." I immediately went to Google search and typed in "mos penis" and there it was the at the top of the result listing. I read through DLD's presentation and was immediately sold on the idea that I found my answer. Joined the membership site, bought the DVD, did the exercises and became successful in my gains for the first time ever.
Why the search and use of such drugs to cure your own aliments?
20 years ago I had the same issues with major depression, anxiety, insomnia. Everyone including doctors and nurses I knew were recommending drugs, alcohol, herb you name it they were trying to sell it to me. I did research on the issue(s) and discovered the one thing that works for me and I still use it to this day ... Mediation instead of Medication.
Once I learned to tap into the Alpha Level of my brain-waves things changed for me. I learned to relax the mind and get into a calm demeanor for the day and all it's unexpected events. You can actually program thoughts into your sub-conscious mind so the conscious mind will fulfill your tasks.
Believe it or not, I actually found the MoS web-site by doing this. I spent wasting time and money on other sites looking for a way to enlarge my penis with no avail. I got into my Alpha-Level asking for an answer to P.E. and visually saw the word "MOS penis." I immediately went to Google search and typed in "mos penis" and there it was the at the top of the result listing. I read through DLD's presentation and was immediately sold on the idea that I found my answer. Joined the membership site, bought the DVD, did the exercises and became successful in my gains for the first time ever.
sounds like a movie script threak, good stuff.
REDZULU2003
01-26-08, 12:02 PM
A note for all who use this. Dont use it too often and at a high dosage all the time as it fucks with your temperment and makes you really tired. Good in small dosages, I find now 500mg-1g is best for me and every few weeks as a sub for alcohol .. Phenibut is also anti-catabolic so its good for those who lift weights.
donalgodon
02-25-09, 04:38 PM
GABA specifically inhibits erections, and sexual response in general. How about this stuff? Do you notice any anti-sexual effects?
Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16043278?dopt=Abstract
REDZULU2003
02-28-09, 08:14 AM
Hello mate, well I havent took it for well over a year now and will stay off it as I'm on meds that are very strong. Will go back to it now and again as a substitute for alcohol, as I cant drink on my meds but we all need to chill now and again. Phenibut is really powerful for me and its amazing how it works and for how long the stuff is in then system but too much and you are fucked. This stuff hasnt affected me sexually,made me last much longer actually and I used it for that a few times in the past because it seems to relax the muscles - it also being similer to baclofen which is used for people with severen muscle cramps - so that side of things is possibly why it was good for that and it being working on the GABA wavelength to a certain extent and being slightly similer aswell to Diazapam, is where the sedative more relaxed state comes from.
I WONDER why its not used in the western world like it is in Russia? it could be very beenficial to many for a short term basis or cycled treatment of severe anxiety
donalgodon
02-28-09, 11:14 AM
Hello mate, well I havent took it for well over a year now and will stay off it as I'm on meds that are very strong. Will go back to it now and again as a substitute for alcohol, as I cant drink on my meds but we all need to chill now and again. Phenibut is really powerful for me and its amazing how it works and for how long the stuff is in then system but too much and you are fucked. This stuff hasnt affected me sexually,made me last much longer actually and I used it for that a few times in the past because it seems to relax the muscles - it also being similer to baclofen which is used for people with severen muscle cramps - so that side of things is possibly why it was good for that and it being working on the GABA wavelength to a certain extent and being slightly similer aswell to Diazapam, is where the sedative more relaxed state comes from.
I WONDER why its not used in the western world like it is in Russia? it could be very beenficial to many for a short term basis or cycled treatment of severe anxiety
I did some reading after posting, and it does seem to be pretty effective for short-term use, but the thing that concerns me is that it essentially resets the baseline "normal" anxiety level, so withdrawal could be severe, just like Diazapam and other benzos. I think the REAL reason that it is not used more commonly is purely economically based. Benzos are patentable, and Phen is not, so no company can make a killing selling it, at least not to the same degree that the benzos can be marketed.
Thanks.
REDZULU2003
03-01-09, 04:09 PM
Most of the scarce medical research is in Russian but you can get translations from pubmed.com ... none of it much help though. If you visit bulknutrition.com and search Phenibut and read reviews on it, from the users its quite good and gives you a nice setting on how it works for most men [seems its them I notice buying it]. I would agree that it can have withdrawal symptons like diazapam but I read only if taken longterm. Many take it short term for SEVERE anxiety and/or various stressful conditions such as PTSD. I've taken diazapam on one occasion when I was ill, from a Dr and I must say I dont rate it highly in giving a euphoric effect or anything like that, as thats why it gets abused by those who dont need it .. taking it in large doses and thinking they will get a high or something. To be frank, it was just a quick relief from the anger and frustration I had at the time and made me easier to manage by the staff whom were dealing with me. Stopped, well slowed down the racing thoughts in my mind but I didnt feel high or anything. Its old school and all British units [Mental health] prefer to use Lorazepam which I've also had and is stronger than Diazapam, more quicker to work and the feelings of relaxation much better.
Okay, back to Phenibut ... its VERY unique and special .. not liike the past two drugs mentioned but gives you a slight buzz [high] that isnt out of control and wont effect you too much if at all as a person, unless you consume other drugs and/or alcohol in which case they can be multiplied in their effectiveness with Phenibut. Phenibut starts to work after around 20 minutes, when you feel slightly different and than it keeps kicking in. The feelings of calmness and more sociable are very noticable indeed. You have more energy and wait for it ... can work BETTER ... this is TRUE, I could work quicker and better on the stuff and still feel less stressed .. its amazing stuff but as the hours go by its the comedown that isnt pleasant and gives you [can] a nasty headache and brain fog. You do tend to be sleepy towards the end of the dosage or if it was high. You sleep like a baby on this stuff but that wont kick in until later at a normal dosage, only high at first and you would need to be relaxing i.e. running about or working you wont suddenly sleep. Its nice for a high now and again, its legal and cheap. Bulknutrion are the best stock for it but stay away from discount anabolics as they have dodgy batches, I got one from them that wasnt phenibut inside bu pure GABA powder, from the taste it seemed that way and had NO EFFECTS whatsoever.
if you your state accepts medical marijuana go for a nice sativa/indica strain. Much more better.
REDZULU2003
03-23-09, 10:04 PM
It has longterm mental health damage so I wouldnt touch it. Seen too many people in units sectioned from smoking that crap.
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