Faster Healing and Maybe a Gain Aid

[MustBeDreaming]

I'm doing research right now on the web on different vitamens, herbs, and whatever else that speeds up the healing of bruises, puffiness, blood vessels, and even veins. So I am going to post some products and what they do. What are your thoughts on the?
Right now I am using Vitamen E, but I know that there is something much better to use that this. One of my problems is I only gain from alot of work outs with less break times, I end up having to take a long break. As well, if we can heal our bruises, keep better coloration of the skin, heal the puffiness faster and prevent it, and maybe for those that have unsightly veins or stretch marks, stretch marks can get worse like mine have and veins can get become unhealthy (clogged, leakage, ect.) and end up with more than you want, I do like the big veins though for sure, but I really want to make sure they all really healthy. Anyway, I am on the search for most of this. Basically we are breaking down the cells and then heal in our extended state (please expand on this if you like). Now if we were to add collagen this could produce faster results? It does sound like this cream will help heal blood spots, bruises and puffiness that are not healing like they should, or at least speed up the healing.

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VITAMIN K BRUISE CREAM, 2 oz, helps heal and reduce bruises. Exclusive formulation also promotes healing of damaged skin with professional strength Vitamin K, Vitamin E & Pycnogenol®.
Vitamin K-Cream with pycnogenol® has the following additional benefits;
Multiplies collagen (a skin protein) and elastin binding, improving skin
Smoothness and elasticity
Slows the wrinkling process
Suppresses inflammatory enzymes, decreasing puffiness and swelling.
Obstructs histamine formation, reducing allergic skin reactions
Strengthens capillaries, arteries and veins, thus reducing leakage and color lines.
Reduces the risk of swelling.
http://www.yourskincare.com/bruises.htm?source=goto
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K-Derm Cream and K-Derm Gel contain Vitamin K which can help improve the appearance of unsightly fine spider veins and broken capillaries on both the face and legs. Applied twice daily to moist skin, they usually show results in a matter of 3-4 weeks. K-Derm may also be used for bruising and the redness associated with rosacea. It may give you some improvement for blood vessel derived lesions of the skin.
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Emu Oil is an excellent skin-hydrating product. It helps to promote natural healing, rejuvenate and freshen dry skin tissue, leading to soft supple skin. Continued use will help to “plump” up your skin’s underlying layer and some say, reduce the appearance of fine lines. Emu Oil is also very high in collagen, making it effective in healing skin problems, such as eczema as well as minor burns, cuts and scrapes. Emu Oil has also been used to treat arthritis, shingles, rheumatism, bruises, insect bites, hemorrhoids, muscle pain, stretch marks, psoriasis, scar tissue, thinning hair, scalp problems, bursitis, tendonitis, tennis elbow, leg cramps, sunburn, joint aches & pain, dry or cracked lips.
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For bruising, there are 2 consecutive treatments necessary to gain optimum benefits; one hot, to help the chosen oils infiltrate the skin and one cold to increase circulation to he area and help clear out the damages cell debris and blood. Use a cotton flannel in each case. In the hot water, add 2 drops of each oil from the list below. Apply to he bruised area for at least 10 minutes, making sure it is as hot as comfortable. After replacing it three times, change to cold water, using the same list of oils but add Rosemary and Ginger to the water as well.

Lavender, Geranium, Chamomile, Cypress
(Rosemary added in cold compress).
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DKV 15 is a soothing all natural cream containing a 5% USP-grade professional strength Vitamin K along with therapeutic quality essential oils.
Vitamin K is a renowned coagulant, widely used to curtail bleeding during surgery. It is effective in repairing damaged capillaries, thus allowing surrounding dried blood to dissolve and skin to clear. Thousands of plastic surgeons, dermatologists and other skin care professionals have demonstrated the effectiveness of this non-invasive remedy. Dilated or broken capillaries are often called spider veins. These starbursts and clusters may be accompanied by pain and irritation, but they are always ugly and will not resolve themselves without intervention. By applying DKV 15 directly to the skin, conditions such as spider veins, scars, stretch marks and bruises can be reduced and relieved naturally without injection or surgery.
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I will add more on more product research soon.

[MustBeDreaming]

Vitamen K will heal dilated or broken capillaries, decreasing puffiness and swelling, strengthens capillaries, arteries and veins, thus reducing leakage and color lines, and helps prevent swelling.

Collagen will firm the skin, lessen stretch marks and wrinkles. Promote cell growth.

Vitamen E will speed up the rate of healing wounds, cuts, scraps, bruises.



Using these could be very helpful on your breaks, better faster healing.

[MustBeDreaming]

The use of Vitamin K to promote healthy healing of skin is well documented, dating back to the early 1900's. It has been used for years by leading surgeons and dermatologists before, during and after surgeries to promote the healthy healing of skin.

K utilizes a natural dermaceutical delivery system for Vitamin K. It aids in the healing of bruises, burns, skin irritations and can eliminate unsightly spider veins. Vitamin K is an organic substance essential in small amounts for normal metabolism.

Vitamin K fixes the damaged capillary by clotting the blood at the tiny tear, thus stopping the seepage. This allows the tissue time to heal itself. An easy example is if you cut yourself, the wound will not heal properly until it scabs over. The same thing happens with the damaged capillary or artery. It will not heal until the seepage has stopped. Once this is achieved, your spider veins will naturally fade away and with regular use of the Pro K, they will not reappear.

A spider vein results when a tiny pinhole tear occurs in a capillary or artery beneath the skin. Stress or some type of trauma usually causes this; i.e. childbirth, car accident, sport injury, or from a contact bruise. What you actually see is the blood that has seeped out of that tiny tear or pinhole and has followed the line of the capillary or artery. As an example, imagine putting a drop of water on a pencil - the drop will follow the line of the pencil.

Vitamin K is a natural substance found in vegetables - alfalfa, spinach, kale, carrot tops, tomatoes and certain vegetable oils.

[MustBeDreaming]

''The main problem that causes impotence is that the blood vessels become blocked and the blood can not get to the penis. The other major problem is leakage of blood from the penis into the veins around the penis called a venous leak. This is very common, similar to a hole in a tire.''

So when we overdue our work outs and strain our dick out and sometimes some people have complained of weaker erections. Mine on the other hand has Improved. The veins have become very prominant. But for those those don't want to risk someday getting spider veins and vericose veins, wouldn't this be a good idea. Vitamen K would keep the veins healthy and get rid of the dry blood, if there is any, and stop venous leak. P.E. will and does give you better circulation, but if you have venous leak, it usually takes a while for that to heal up, from what I've read. If your PEing with not enough rest time when you have this, you may have problems later on (thoery).


I'm actually not trying to focus on veins, but having less down time and healing. And especially find a way to stop getting so much fluid build up. There was another read that (I'm not quoting this exactly) the pores become bigger overtime where the fluid comes from. That's why if you do a lot of pumping of PE, eventually you will get fluid build up way too easily. You need to take a break if your getting fluid build up to quick and all the time. You don't want this fluid build up.

We all want a bigger dick, but we don't want a big ugly veiny, discolored, crooked, bumpy, scarred up dick. I don't, I'm seeing too many veins and stretch marks, even with good gains, so there must be a way to heal properly in a expanded state without the battle wounds. The vitamen E alone is working. Mederma and VIP Cream (from Action Love . com) did not do a thing for me.

[bigbedu]

What do you think about using a product suck as that Vit. K bruise cream or Traumeel immediately after a session. Is this advisable or is it best to wait for a few hours?

-bigbedu

[MustBeDreaming]

Originally posted by bigbedu
What do you think about using a product suck as that Vit. K bruise cream or Traumeel immediately after a session. Is this advisable or is it best to wait for a few hours?

-bigbedu

This I am not sure of. I just ordered the Vitamen K Bruise cream and I am waiting for it. I will only be using on my breaks and down time starting out, or any areas say 8 hours after a session where there is fluid build up or bruising.

[MustBeDreaming]

IT WORKS!!!

Ha ha, my theory was right. I had ordered the Vitamen K Bruise cream and have been using it after an intense work out. I massage it on any swelling bruising and blood spots hours after an intense work out and its gone the next day!! Usually it takes days for the blood spots and bruising to go away. My skin is softer and the healing is faster already. NICE!!!!

[hangh]

cool, that sounds real nice. good work :bottumsup

[AncientChina]

This is a great post and is very important that we buy these products just to aid in the comfort of the manhood. It's cheap and easy and is an extra measure to take.

After reading this I just bought Palmer's cocoa butter formula. It has Vitamin E, Collagen, Elastin, and many other ingredients. I could not find Vitamin K yet, do you have to buy it online, or can you get it at a walmart? I would really like to get my hands on that, especially if it aids in the prevention/healing of any discoloration? Will Viatmin E help discoloration as well? Mederma did nothing for you? I heard the main ingredient was Elastin. One last question, is there any way to lessen the appearence of freckles? I have a few in that area. Great post and thanks bro.

[AncientChina]

Hey Mustbedreaming, have you looked into Elastin? It looks like it will work very well with Collagen.


Elastin is a protein in our body that is found in the walls of our arteries, in our lungs, intestines and even our skin. As the name suggests elastin gives our organs, elasticity.
Working in partnership with collagen, elastin allows the body organs to stretch and relax. Thus, while collagen provides rigidity, elastin allows the blood vessels and heart tissues, for example, to stretch and then revert to their original positions.
Amazingly, the body does not make elastin after the age of 12 or 13.

When the blood vessels in our body lose elastin, for example, the blood vessels lose their property to stretch easily. Our windpipes contain elastin. Damage to elastin can cause breathing difficulties. Our skin contains elastin too. Over time, the sun’s ultraviolet (UV) light damages the elastin in the skin. The breakdown of these fibers causes the skin to lose its ability to snap back after stretching. As a result, wrinkles form.


http://www.dimdima.com/science/science_common/show_science.asp?q_aid=152

[Supra]

Man I never relized the importance of this thread. This is some grade A shit. It is going to help me with my brusing as discoloration from hanging. Thanks a lot man!!!! Awesome!!

[fallen_one23]

yea I'm going with Supra, healings the most important part of PE, without it, and with all the intense shit we're coming out with, we can do some serious harm

good luck with it!

[MustBeDreaming]

Cool, thats awsome guys. Yes I do believe you have to order the vitamen K cream, years back surgeans and dermatogists mainly used it for their patients. I am still doing 2 days on 1 off, but now I can do my intense work out because I am healing faster. Is very nice. As far as freckles, it may work, you'd be the experiment, no harm can be done. Also you dont need to put much on, I just dab my finger in it with about a nickle size and massage it in. Good luck and post your experience with it.

[Supra]

I am going to order this tommorow!! Thanks a lot!!

[AncientChina]

Thanks Mustbe, cool to hear Supra it looks pretty promising.

Right now I am using the Palmers stuff, it has Vitamin E, Collagen, and Elastin. Hopefully the Elastin will allow me to do intense wet jelqs without having the stretch marks, and "turkey neck" effect where skin is pulled and builds up at the base of the flaccid shaft, which I seem may be happening and am trying to avoid. Elastin basically allows the skin to stretch without "breaking" and forming stretch marks. Similar to the way a rubber band can stretch and return to its original size. Or so I hope it does. I have been applying frequently to form a good build up.

I am glad to see Supra exciting, as I am too. The vitamin E, Collagen/Elastin, cocoa butter for needed skin deep moisture and other ingredients are hopefully that extra prevention and protection that you skin can use to hopefully eliminate some of the effects and signs of PE'ing

Looking forward to the Vitamin K cream.:)

[Supra]

Man I get really bad brusing during hanging. If you look at my pics in the pic forum, you can see that huge red mark on the left side of my shaft, thats from hanging, I cant shake no matter what I do. Will this help you think?

Look here on the second pic

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3573

[MustBeDreaming]

It should help. I've never hung, but I've gotten pretty sore in the same area from doing a lot of stretches. I didn't stretch for a week and it went away, that may be a good idea so it won't haunt you.

[Supra]

Thanks man!

[MustBeDreaming]

I had a big session last night and got bruised on my circumcision on the left side along with a lot of blood spots. I used the Vitamen K cream last night before I went to bed and again this morning and the spots are gone and so is the bruising. My dick is still swollen though but the color looks good.

[KingD]

Yo!! I just got my catalog from my favorite supplement site www.puritan.com and they are having a crazy sell. Buy 1 item get 1 free and buy 2 get 3 free. They carry an Lysine ointment that aides in the production of collegen. I plan on buying 2 and getting 3 free, so I can get those gains, have smooth skin, and get faster healing . Just adding my 2 cents and letting ya'll know about a hell of a deal on somethings my fellow PEers can use. Check the site out!! You'll bound 2 find something you like that can help you PEing.

[MustBeDreaming]

Right on man, hope that stuff works for ya. Cheers.

[Supra]

I really need help with brusing! What do I need to do?

[MustBeDreaming]

What I have found so far when the bruising wont go away is to take a short break, theres no buts about it, I had to. I think its mainly the stretching that kept it from healing and going away. The last 3 days I've only been doing Uli's for 20 minutes and applying the vitamen K cream twice a day and the bruising is gone and the discolor is half way gone. And oh yeah, my dick is so freaken soft from using this stuff its awsome. I haven't been doing anymore shower stretches on my off days either, that does seems to help as well.

[Supra]

I bought some arnica gel.

[MustBeDreaming]

what is it? whats it do for you?

[Supra]

Helps get rid or brusing, you can get it at GNC.

[Supra]

I appritiate everything Maiden, this stuff is helping me so much!!

[MustBeDreaming]

Awsome, very glad it is helping you out. I just made a power ring today, I hope it helps me out as well to add. It's pretty unbelievable that just 2" zinc and 2" copper tube is creating electricity and doing what everyone says it has. Cool.

[Supra]

Great To hear!

[Supra]

I ordered the VITAMIN K BRUISE CREAM today!!

[AncientChina]

Excellent to hear Supra, tell us how it goes, I will be getting my soon.

[slayman]

I just starting using Vitamin E. I had been taking pills every now and then, ill try to take them more often. Im also popping open a gel tab and rubbing it on my penis after a session. I have a few dark spots and a ton of skin level veins. There is one particular dark spot that developed on the underside of my dick because of PE, and i will see what vitamin E will do to it. It has been there for a long time now.

hope this works well for me.

[MustBeDreaming]

The Vitamin K cream has really soften my skin and return the color, but I also have not been doing any jelqs in weeks which has been hard. I too have a discolored area along my circumcision scar on one side, it has faded a bit and looks better, but for the most part it looks like the skin needs to just where off over time, may take months for it too clear without doing my girth workouts, sucks, so Ill be hanging instead until it is almost gone. The cream and vitamin E will work on bruises and blood spots. But I'm not sure about the discoloration or dead skin, I think it has to go away naturally, the cream will help the process of collagen to do this. If the discoloration gets worse, means you haven't given yourself enough time to heal and you've over done it or your doing something wrong. Temporarily change your work out do something else that will less likely make it worse.

[Supra]

I got it today!! How many times should I apply it a day, how much and how long before I notice the brusing and discoloration to go away?

[MustBeDreaming]

twice a day, I wait a few hours after work out to apply. It hasn't helped discoloration yet, but it has helped the bruising part and blood spots. Massage it into the areas needed for a minute, use about a nickel size dot. Let me know how it works for you in a week.
Remember, you still have to give yourself to time heal, a day or two. Cheers.

[AncientChina]

.........still waiting for mine, hopefully I can get it soon. Mustbe, have you used anything for discoloration that has shown any positive results?

[MustBeDreaming]

unfortunetely, nothing has, only time. I used to have it on my head, but its gone away over time. But the one around my circumcision scar has faded a bit over the month but not gone away, I think its something that just has to fade over time. Of course you must give yourself time in that area to heal, there is a reason why you got it in the first place.

[Supra]

I am rubbing this shit on like a maniac 4-5 times a day. I am just wondering if I should take of PE till Monday to get more healing done. I want this brusing to go away, its all right on the bottom and sides were the circumscision scar is. Any help?


I got the brusing from bad hanging technqiue that I was doing under the desk fulcrum hanging and I was using to much weight and on and on.

I hung yestraday and stretched it did not seem to get anybetter or any worse.

I think you and me have the same problem, let fix this together!

[MustBeDreaming]

I'm not sure if 4-5 times a day is necessary, but I don't see it hurting you, hope the more you apply it the better. The only way I got rid of my bruising is from time off. Take at least a week off, it ok to warm up and use the power ring. Who knows, on your time off you may get a growth spurt. At this point you and me are experimenting on how long of a break to take and how often to apply any cream. I've been using my Penimaster for the last week after upgrading it, I'm actually gaining now, and the bruising hasn't come back. I took over a month off of any intense p.e.ing.

[Supra]

Were did you get the brusing from to start, I got mine from hanging. You think I should take a month off?

[MustBeDreaming]

From doing my intense girth work outs everyday for a month with no break. Wish I took a break, I kept half of the gains though. I dont know how bad your bruise is. Is there blood spots around it?

[Supra]

I got mine from hanging . No blood spots. I am using the cream like a maniac. I bought 4 bottles.

It was brusing but now the brusing is gone pretty much and has left the area that was bruised, dark.

[Supra]

I am pretty much bathing in this stuff,

hey do you have AIM?

[Supra]

I wonder is it going to be ok? How is your doing. It sounds like we have the exact same problem.

You said that you dont really have a bruise anymore correct? Its just really dark were the bruise was. I wonder what this is? That is exactly what I have.

[Supra]

Is this ever going to go away?

[MustBeDreaming]

I've read that it is either dead skin or it is dryed blood locked in there. Either way it may take a year to go away. I believe the spots that were on my head took 6 months to a year to disapear. It'll go away over time as long as you are more careful and make sure it is fully healed.

[Supra]

So the dark area is dead skin cells or dryed blood. Hmm.

I am using the K-Cream and Arnica Gell all day.

Can I Still PE if I am alot more carefull? Or do I have to stop?

[MustBeDreaming]

I would take 2 weeks off, you should be fine. But of course start out light and really warm up before hand. If your really concerned about it, take some time off, theres no rush in gaining, two weeks will fly by, though it is hard at first not to PE when you've been making such good gains. I'm glad I did even though I lost some gains.

[Supra]

Ok I will have been off a week this monday, so another is ok. I am not worrying about loss of gains, the Ring of Power sustains them for me and this K-Cream is working great, thanks to you. I will take some more time off like you said

I just dont want to have a discolored dark bruised penis.

Are you back into a PE routine again?

[Supra]

Does this K-Cream have collogen in it?

If not were can i get the collegen cream you talk about?

[Supra]

Were can I get K-Derm Cream or Gel and the Emu Oil?

Also I really need to do this

For bruising, there are 2 consecutive treatments necessary to gain optimum benefits; one hot, to help the chosen oils infiltrate the skin and one cold to increase circulation to he area and help clear out the damages cell debris and blood. Use a cotton flannel in each case. In the hot water, add 2 drops of each oil from the list below. Apply to he bruised area for at least 10 minutes, making sure it is as hot as comfortable. After replacing it three times, change to cold water, using the same list of oils but add Rosemary and Ginger to the water as well.

Lavender, Geranium, Chamomile, Cypress
(Rosemary added in cold compress).


Were can I get those Oils, and is the ginger a oil to? And can you give me better insructions on the cotten flannel and doing this procedure?

[Supra]

I went to www.puritan.com

And got a order ready for these products is this the right way to go, and will these do what is required for the hot cold compress?

LAVENDER AROMATHERAPY 10ML
GERANIUM AROMATHERAPY 10ML
CHAMOMILE AROMATHERAPY 10ML
ROSEMARY AROMATHERAPY 10ML
GINGER ROOT LIQ EXTRACT 1OZ
Vitamin E-100 (100 Softgels)
LYSINE OINTMENT (1 Cream)
Collagen and Placenta Beauty Night Cream/COLLAGEN MOISTURIZING CREAM (2 oz. Cream)

They did not have Emu Oil, but is this the same thing: Emulsified Vitamin A & D Softgels ?

Is this a god order?

[Supra]

Were is mustbedreaming!!! I need to talk to him.

[MustBeDreaming]

What's going on Supra? What can I do for you?

Yes I am back on my PE routine, I just don't go as long sessions and really stretch and warm up first, I haven't had any blood spots. I'm trying the Captains Wench tonight. I've also been using my penimaster that I upgraded myself, no problems. the bruising hasn't come back and the dark area hasn't gotten any worse.

I haven't used Emu Oil except in my hair, I'd be curious if it would do anything. Those oils your getting I've read will do the trick with the discoloration. Man let me know if it does anything for you.

[Supra]

I got your Pm

My AIM is MDMSupra!

Lets kick this thing bro!

[AncientChina]

Wow that's quite a bit of products you got Supra. I have more of a one in all cream, though I am still scouring around looking for a cream that will help any discoloration effectively.

You may also want to try out Elastin which works inpart with Collagen. As you know Elastin lets the skin stretch and return to it's original size thus theoritically reducing any type of permanent stretchin or turkey neck etc....I didn't see it on your list but you may have picked it up I don't know. :bottumsup

[Supra]

What is your all in one cream?

[AncientChina]

http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=58616&catid=10403&trx=29384&tab=0#0

There is the stuff I use, it is not pricey at all so I wonder if it is as good as the individual products. It has Vitamin E, Collagen, Elastin and a few other things in it. I cannot compare it to another product, if you notice great results from the others I would be more inclined to try them out too.

[AncientChina]

By the way the Cocoa butter is a great moisturize which helps preventing any skin damage from the manual pulling/tugging of the penis etc...

[Supra]

Will that get rid of my dicsoloration?

[Supra]

Well I got all of this going, this is some serious dick therapy

[Supra]

BTW how do i use the cotten flannel? I though i was just supposed to dip my penis in the water and let it sit

[MustBeDreaming]

BTW how do i use the cotten flannel? I though i was just supposed to dip my penis in the water and let it sit

You can use it either way, its up to you. I would use a clear pastic water bottle so as to not waste the oils from being soaked up.

[Supra]

What do you mean? How do I do it?

[Supra]

Where Is Must Be Dreaming!!!

[AncientChina]

After doing some searching for discoloration, I think I will try this cream out. It's called Dermacure, though it works with mild discoloration only I am guessing? I think Dermacure with the Vitamin-K cream is at this time the best shot to prevent/aid in discoloration, well that I know of right now. I will have to do some more searching. I will probably order the Vit-k cream and Dermacure today online and see what it can do


http://www.thundersplace.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3346

http://www.thundersplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8964&highlight=dermacure

http://www.thundersplace.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3346

http://www.thundersplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18409&highlight=dermacure

[AncientChina]

BTW Supra and others interested, Dermacure was the only product that has gotten good reviews for helping penis discoloration. Modemmer had some good things to say about it.....

[AncientChina]

Here's a product link http://www.dermacure.net/

[AncientChina]

The more I look at that dermacure site the less I believe in this product at all.......The copyright date on the site is far outdated and the claims seem stupid and too good to be true...I also found this link http://www.usps.com/judicial/1984deci/17-31.htm

Damn it I am just looking for a good discoloration topical cream, I don't mind if it does not work like magic, but something to help me feel I am aiding and preventing a problem....so far nothing...time to keep searching. :cheers:

[Supra]

I just bought some so I will let you know, thanks a lot

[AncientChina]

Cool Supra...Go Supra style on that.

I think that cream is over hyped, in that cream the main ingredient is Hydroquinone at 2%. This is seen in many creams out there....I actually found one at www.drugstore.com for only 7.99 it has the 2% Hydroquinone also.....I assume you have to be careful with this stuff, you should only put it on the spots that have discoloration as it could lighten your whole unit? I doubt it's that drastic though. Will get more info on all of this

[MustBeDreaming]

My apologies for not getting back with you Supra, Ive been busy and haven't been on the net, I spent an entire weekend with a girl I met Friday. I'll be on AIM tonight. Thanks very much Anchient for putting effort in as well in trying to find a product that will help discoloration. Supra have you gotten the discoloration to fade at all yet?
Mine was, but last week I did a lot of girth work and the discoloration started getting bad again. Damn it, so its the girth work outs that have done it too me, I'm thinking of only hanging light weights for a couple of months instead of PE until its healed again. I have still not found anything to clear discoloration yet.

[Supra]

I think man, some days its better, then it gets worse...sigh

[Supra]

I bought the Derma Cure, I dont care what those fuckers said!! This stuff Rocks and feels great

[AncientChina]

Ahhhhhhh really Supra? I actually passed up on buying it....I hope to hear you have success with it, and then I will be jumping on board immediately....How about the discoloration? I guess it is too early to ask now eh?

I heard the main ingredient is that hydroqueant whatever that shit is, but it is a skin lightening agent, so I would apply only to the discolored areas, or that is what I heard, though I doubt that it matters.

[Supra]

Get this shit man!! Its fucking cheap

[AncientChina]

Hey Supra, I have been using the Vitamin K-cream for the last 4 days. Here is the thing I have a thrombosed vein for like 6 months, it never ever went away I could always feel it and after a few heavey applications it has totally disappeared so this Vitamin K-cream looks promising....

Still have to find a somewhat better solution for discoloration soon, I will be doing some more searching though I haven't had the chance to lately.....I would like to kill discoloration. If discoloration was a bitch, I would bitch slap it. rofl

[AncientChina]

By the way that thrombsoed vein was a huge bitch, I could always feel it when flaccid now it's gone. I will test this some more, but yes this is some good stuff Supra/Mustbedreaming.

[Supra]

Hell ya it is!! Thanks so much man

[Supra]

Fucking Hippies!! ROFLAMO!! Were is MustbeDreaming!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHH

[MustBeDreaming]

Fucking Hippies!! ROFLAMO!! Were is MustbeDreaming!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHH

I haven't been here in forever. I've quit P.E. for a while. I'm not going to touch my dick for the next 4 months PEing wise. The discoloration did come back from light girth workouts and the donut effect comes much much too freaken quick. I want my dick to be nice and smooth again along with normal coloration all over. I am using the Vitamen K cream 2 times a day and vitamen E lotion once a day. I have to let my dick heal along with what little nerve damage I think I've done (feeling loss) from over stretching and just plain not letting myself truely heal. The other reason I'm getting away from coming to this site lately is so I don't get the urge to PE and especially I am trying to quit looking at porn. It's working, I think about it a whole lot less. I actually feel happier and more confident not spending so much time in this so called PE world. I will be around once in a while though. Mainly this thread.

[Supra]

Man aint that the truth. I wonder if I should do this, I cant shake my discoloration either, I have resorted to shooting IGF in my penis to see if that helps as well

[Supra]

I wish you would be on aim man so we can talk about this more

[streetdreamer02]

cocoa butter helps relieve stretch marks and other shit like that
i take vitamin E pills too since vitamin E is in cocoa butter i take it:)

[MustBeDreaming]

Heating Pad! So far this has been the best 14 dollars I have spent. I leave it on high while I sleep. Over the last 4 days the healing has sped up big big time, coloration is disappearing and my dick has never ever been so freakin soft. I love the Pad! When I wake up it's as if I did an hour PE session without the coloration or swelling. My girth is back up again and great flaccid gain. Numbness from hanging is going away ever so slowly. I am also taking b3 (niacine), vitamen C, multivitamen, Vitamen E, Zinc, and L-Larginine.
What is really helping as well is not touching or messing with my dick and letting it heal (no jelqing, pulling, stretching, hanging, ADDs, nothing), except I am still having sex with my girl. So right now the bumps, small stretch mark, discoloration, tough skin, and rough circumcision scar is fading away fast. I would never have had this problem if I only took longer breaks and not do anything on those days off.

[Supra]

Holy shit!!! I am going to walmart to pick on up right now!! Thanks a lot man!!

[Supra]

I seriously Must be dreaming cause this shit works great!!! It makes my balls hang so low and my girth just swells up and feels so good!@! Thanks so much

[AncientChina]

Heating pads are the shit.

[MustBeDreaming]

I know! My girlfriend has been complimenting my balls lately. They're already big, and now twice the size in the morning, as well she has been amazed at how soft my dick has gotten. Hell Yeah! Don't forget about me when you give the recommendation. :clank:

'Best $14 bucks I've ever spent'

[Supra]

Hey this heat pad i have, its made by Sunbeam. It about 1'X1' is that ok, what is hte best way to wrap it around my unit for sleeping, and also it has a 2 hour auto shut off, You said you leave yours on all night. I am confused.

[MustBeDreaming]

I have a automatic shut off too, it doesn't do it all the time, most of the time it stays on all night. I also don't wrap, I just lay on it full heat. It's hot enough that you don't need to wrap it around yourself, I lay on my stomach. Feels really good, I also have been falling asleep pretty fast from it, really relaxing. I bought a semi good pad at Walmart. Nothing really special with the expensive ones. For now I will stick with what I am doing. Turn the pad on, lay on it, sleep.

[Supra]

I got mine at walmart

[Supra]

Hey how big is your heat pad? And who is it made by?

[josh8]

Anybody heard about this product? http://eoffersonline.com/click.asp?bid=164&afcd=CD565&dpid=&opti=&lpid=0&poid=0

I am waiting for my FREE bottle come today or tomorrow and see how it works for me. I will give you guys a post about this.

Josh8


I'm doing research right now on the web on different vitamens, herbs, and whatever else that speeds up the healing of bruises, puffiness, blood vessels, and even veins. So I am going to post some products and what they do. What are your thoughts on the?
Right now I am using Vitamen E, but I know that there is something much better to use that this. One of my problems is I only gain from alot of work outs with less break times, I end up having to take a long break. As well, if we can heal our bruises, keep better coloration of the skin, heal the puffiness faster and prevent it, and maybe for those that have unsightly veins or stretch marks, stretch marks can get worse like mine have and veins can get become unhealthy (clogged, leakage, ect.) and end up with more than you want, I do like the big veins though for sure, but I really want to make sure they all really healthy. Anyway, I am on the search for most of this. Basically we are breaking down the cells and then heal in our extended state (please expand on this if you like). Now if we were to add collagen this could produce faster results? It does sound like this cream will help heal blood spots, bruises and puffiness that are not healing like they should, or at least speed up the healing.

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VITAMIN K BRUISE CREAM, 2 oz, helps heal and reduce bruises. Exclusive formulation also promotes healing of damaged skin with professional strength Vitamin K, Vitamin E & Pycnogenol®.
Vitamin K-Cream with pycnogenol® has the following additional benefits;
Multiplies collagen (a skin protein) and elastin binding, improving skin
Smoothness and elasticity
Slows the wrinkling process
Suppresses inflammatory enzymes, decreasing puffiness and swelling.
Obstructs histamine formation, reducing allergic skin reactions
Strengthens capillaries, arteries and veins, thus reducing leakage and color lines.
Reduces the risk of swelling.
http://www.yourskincare.com/bruises.htm?source=goto
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K-Derm Cream and K-Derm Gel contain Vitamin K which can help improve the appearance of unsightly fine spider veins and broken capillaries on both the face and legs. Applied twice daily to moist skin, they usually show results in a matter of 3-4 weeks. K-Derm may also be used for bruising and the redness associated with rosacea. It may give you some improvement for blood vessel derived lesions of the skin.
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Emu Oil is an excellent skin-hydrating product. It helps to promote natural healing, rejuvenate and freshen dry skin tissue, leading to soft supple skin. Continued use will help to “plump” up your skin’s underlying layer and some say, reduce the appearance of fine lines. Emu Oil is also very high in collagen, making it effective in healing skin problems, such as eczema as well as minor burns, cuts and scrapes. Emu Oil has also been used to treat arthritis, shingles, rheumatism, bruises, insect bites, hemorrhoids, muscle pain, stretch marks, psoriasis, scar tissue, thinning hair, scalp problems, bursitis, tendonitis, tennis elbow, leg cramps, sunburn, joint aches & pain, dry or cracked lips.
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For bruising, there are 2 consecutive treatments necessary to gain optimum benefits; one hot, to help the chosen oils infiltrate the skin and one cold to increase circulation to he area and help clear out the damages cell debris and blood. Use a cotton flannel in each case. In the hot water, add 2 drops of each oil from the list below. Apply to he bruised area for at least 10 minutes, making sure it is as hot as comfortable. After replacing it three times, change to cold water, using the same list of oils but add Rosemary and Ginger to the water as well.

Lavender, Geranium, Chamomile, Cypress
(Rosemary added in cold compress).
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DKV 15 is a soothing all natural cream containing a 5% USP-grade professional strength Vitamin K along with therapeutic quality essential oils.
Vitamin K is a renowned coagulant, widely used to curtail bleeding during surgery. It is effective in repairing damaged capillaries, thus allowing surrounding dried blood to dissolve and skin to clear. Thousands of plastic surgeons, dermatologists and other skin care professionals have demonstrated the effectiveness of this non-invasive remedy. Dilated or broken capillaries are often called spider veins. These starbursts and clusters may be accompanied by pain and irritation, but they are always ugly and will not resolve themselves without intervention. By applying DKV 15 directly to the skin, conditions such as spider veins, scars, stretch marks and bruises can be reduced and relieved naturally without injection or surgery.
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I will add more on more product research soon.

[MustBeDreaming]

What the hell does that have to do with this thread. Can someboday delete that thread so nobody gets suckered into getting that.

[AncientChina]

Anybody heard about this product? http://eoffersonline.com/click.asp?bid=164&afcd=CD565&dpid=&opti=&lpid=0&poid=0

I am waiting for my FREE bottle come today or tomorrow and see how it works for me. I will give you guys a post about this.

Josh8

Well good luck with that, and I look forward to hearing the update, as far as it looks to me....it looks like Grade A bullshit, the site is more than annoying it is downright stupid, especially with the guy talking crap......The free bottle thing is a nice gimmick do they really want to give away a "herbal supplelment" that will have you gain 2 inches in penis length.....hell no, they wouldn't.....

Plus it says "Herbal Supplement". That means there is nothing special about this, what they put in there others have problem put the same stuff in other products such as Yohimbie or other such herbal stuff.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh wait now I get it you are a dumb ass Troll selling us a product....get that piece of shit link outta here....before Supra comes in Marine style and goes cyberoptic on your ass. rofl

PS mods if you delete the Troll's ad post, delete this post to, so order is restored.

[telljoe]

Supra and Ancientchina,

So what's the verdict on the dermacure or K cream? Has discoloration been lightened by these products? Has the heating pad helped the discoloration? I'm just trying to save money and false hope frustration. thanks

[AncientChina]

Dermacure/skin lightening cream, did not help my discoloration at all. It doesn't even target the cause of discoloration. It targets the skin pigment, but the discoloration due to PE is trapped blood/broken capilaries that sort of thing. So it does nothing for PE discoloration at all. Normal skin discolaration and PE discoloration are 2 very different things.

The heating pad, I believe is well worth the money, and can aid in discoloration. Using it over night gets more blood to your penis, pumps up the circulation, and in return should help a bit. It does a few other things too. I really recommend the use of a heating pad, just don't burn your dick off. rofl

The K-Cream is not for discoloration rather it helps with blood flow and thrombosed veins. And healing time of the broken capilaries etc...I am not sure if it worked, but I enjoyed this stuff a lot! A bit pricey though.

[telljoe]

thanks for the reply, I'll buy a heating pad today and post my results for discoloration.

[AncientChina]

thanks for the reply, I'll buy a heating pad today and post my results for discoloration.

Cool, tell us how it goes!

[telljoe]

Heat concern!
I have my sunbeam on low with the little sponge deal and cloth cover over heating pad and I wear cotton underwear. I wake up in the middle of the night and my dick hurting a bit from the heat. I wake up in a panic, my penis is okay but very hot. Do you guys experience this? Ancientchina when you said don't burn your dick off it put some fear in me as I had an experience with a heating pad on the high setting when I was younger, I fell asleep with it on my hurt knee and woke up with a third degree burn. it cooked all the skin down to the bone. I want this discoloration to go away but not burn it away ;]

[telljoe]

okay, one week of heating pad and no sign of improvement :(
yeah I know patience...
I'm going to buy some arnica and witch hazel and add that to my efforts. also I might buy a vibrator,(No, not that kind of vibrator) a massaging vibrator that will force blood to discolored area.

[MustBeDreaming]

I had burned my penis by leaving it on high and fell asleep over night, lost some sensation, don't know how perminant it is. Discoloration goes away when you stop over doing your work outs and stop getting fluid build up. Still the best product to use which was one of the first posts in this thread is the Vitamen K cream, nothing else has beat it.

[telljoe]

Pics of my long term condition. all the fluid swelling is gone now. I wish I would have known this could happen before I started. Do you think vitamin k cream would help this condtion, i've been this way roughtly 5 months.

[telljoe]

mustbedreaming, that is some scarry shit! I don't think I'll be sleeping with my heating pad anymore. how does your discoloration rate to my above pics? and did vitamin k cream help for your situation and how much did it help?

[muscleup]

I hope everyone will not forget the nutrition basics of working out - whether it be for PE or bodybuilding. When you work out a muscle (or penis lig ) you MUST follow up within an hours' time with a good dose of protein in order to build those tissues you have just damaged during your workout. We put our tissues thru a lot during out PE rountines and the growth we want comes during the rest and nutrition phase of our program. You MUST do these two things to have growth - nutrition and rest of the affected region you just worked out. Ask any bodybuilder in the gym - supplementing with a good protein right after a workout makes a huge difference in growth /repair rates. I can not stress that enough. SOOOOOOOO - beat the crap out of your bad boy - but then love him to death with kindness by giving him a good meal!!!

[MustBeDreaming]

Joe, seriously quite PEing and stretching for 3 or 6 months, your at a point where you have to completely stop. It'll go away using the K cream, use it 2 to 3 times a day. The darest areas may never totally go away, so stop, heal or it'll spread. I know it'll be hard to quite for a while, but trust me it'll be worth it. Looks like you got that from hanging or your getting bad fluid build up.

[telljoe]

thanks for the protein tip Muscleup.
Mustbedreaming,
yeah quiting is hard especially being a super hard gainer like myself. I will buy and start using the vitamin k cream as you suggest. I'll quit PEing as I have been off now for the last two weeks, so what's another couple of months (yikes!)
You mentioned bad fluid build up. I was under the impression that when doing compression exercises, you wanted to keep going until your full of fluid making you very engourged, is this not the case? thanks for your help.

[MustBeDreaming]

If someone told you fluid build up is good, they are idiots. Seriously, fluid build up well set you back and keep you from getting permenant gains. There are pics of some guys here that are claiming instant girth and by looking at their picture its alot of fluid build up and when they stop for a month all they may have gained will be gone. This is from what I've been seeing and personal experience. The more often you get the fluid build up the longer it stays and the quicker it happens. I have quit PE for a month now and plan on to for 6 to hopefully completely heal the inside of the skin so I won't get fluid build up like this.
I have found a pattern with my gains. This is what I am sharing, a healthy penis and no over doing (no Fluid build up) and taking something like viagra or cialis will give you diffenite gains.
The one girth king here that looks to have the healthiest pics is RED, but he's been around longer and more careful and not drastic from what I have read. The reason I mention girth is because until I really got into these too fast I got amazing gains and stayed for awhile until I started doing too much and began getting discoloration.
Fluid build up has also caused disentsitation and rougher skin. If you hear anything on reversing what ever it is that causes fluid build up be sure to post it in this forum.

[telljoe]

I was just noticing how the darker skin is rougher and desensitized also. and I did heavy duty daily girth work for nearly two months and after all is said and done, I'm the same size but now with a less healthier penis, my fault no doubt, but all the hype about getting more girth with these intense workouts, to my disapointment is not my experience. you're also right about once you get fluid build up you are more likely to get it faster next time. I was using a pump with setting 5 vacuum a while back. and now with the same setting I get a huge ring of swelling under my glans that takes a few days to massage out. By the way I've never hung, all my discoloration is from girth work. I'll definitely post whatever I find here.

[MustBeDreaming]

Here it is almost a month of no jelqing or PEing, I went jogging tonight when i home my dick was fat, I somehow got fluid build up and it feels disesitized too becuase of it. This sucks, how permanent is this, maybe if I kept my dick on ice for a week fluid build up would heal.

[telljoe]

that totally sucks, maybe you could use traction wrapping when you exercise to keep swelling to a minimum and yeah, ice it down.

[lili9zero]

This is a great thread about healing, discoloration, and products that helps the process.

It seems that the discussion is focused on products like Vitamin K Cream's effectiveness on bruising and dark areas. I wonder if this product will be helpful on areas where the skin (healed skin from blister) is a lighter color than the surrounding areas--will Vitamin K Cream promote coloration blending or help return the healed skin to it's original color? For example, there are two lighter color spots on the head of my penis from two blisters. They have healed very well (no infections, irritation, itching, or anything) but the color is different from the color surrounding it. I wonder if Vitamin K cream will help the blister color blend--I'm applying Neosporin, but it seems that is only good for preventing infections, not promoting skin color development.

Anyone experience this? Thanks

~Monet

[TheStick]

Vitamin C helps to strengthen blood vessels ALOT. Easy bruisers might want to take 20mg per lb of body weight spread out throughout the day. I take ester C with bioflavonoids. It's non acidic so it won't fuck with your stomach and the flavonoids prevent vitamin C from degrading so fast in the bloodstream.

Many nutritionists and nutrition researchers label cardiovascular disease and easy bruising as prescurvy conditions.

[TheStick]

Also vitamin C is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL for the synthesis of collagen and elastin, two of the primary components of tendons and ligaments, i.e. tunica and suspensory ligs.