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Dashdeming
02-10-04, 11:06 AM
I am now up to 33 pounds hanging for 20 minutes each day and 6 days per week. I believe that more weight and shorter hang periods are the ticket for me after extensive time working up to the heavier weights. I usually hang straight down and sometimes straight out.
Then:
October 23, 2002 - 5 5/8" BPEL and 4 15/16" erect girth
Now - 8" BPEL and 5 7/8" erect girth
That is 2 3/8" length gain in just over 15 months and 15/16" erect girth gain.
My routine is to hang 20 minutes and then dry jelk 500 to 800 strokes. I occassional use an ADS for a few hours each day.
stillwantmore
02-10-04, 12:41 PM
I am now up to 33 pounds hanging for 20 minutes each day and 6 days per week. I believe that more weight and shorter hang periods are the ticket for me after extensive time working up to the heavier weights. I usually hang straight down and sometimes straight out.
Then:
October 23, 2002 - 5 5/8" BPEL and 4 15/16" erect girth
Now - 8" BPEL and 5 7/8" erect girth
That is 2 3/8" length gain in just over 15 months and 15/16" erect girth gain.
My routine is to hang 20 minutes and then dry jelk 500 to 800 strokes. I occassional use an ADS for a few hours each day.
Sounds like this is working really well for you so far. What weight did you start with?
Only 20 min a day and thats it? How long did it take you to work up to that?
Dashdeming
02-10-04, 01:16 PM
I started at 8 pounds about 15 months ago and then moved up to 24 with-in 12 months. I hust recently moved up to 33 pounds so it will be several months before I move up more.
Yes, just 20 minutes although I have added a second 20 minutes several times per month. I believe heavy is the key for me!
This sounds interesting I need to try. Also did you just do one eset a day for those twelve months?
ItsElectric
02-10-04, 07:10 PM
Wow, excellent gains! This has been your routine the whole time?
-ItsElectric
1) very nice gains
2) what device are you using?
3) I may try this myself, but obviously anyone thinking of doing this should proceed w/ extreme caution and should be able to handle the weight
4) Good Luck!
Dashdeming
02-11-04, 08:23 AM
1) very nice gains
2) what device are you using?
3) I may try this myself, but obviously anyone thinking of doing this should proceed w/ extreme caution and should be able to handle the weight
4) Good Luck!
I have designed and constructed my owm hanger and yes you should take extreme caution and plenty of time to condition your penis.
Supra,
Yes, I only did one 20 minute set for the duration and will most likely stay with the 20 minutes but continue to increase the weight.
ItsElectric,
Yes, this is pretty much my routine the whole time. I have thrown in some pumping at times but not as a rule.
ItsElectric
02-11-04, 07:02 PM
Wow, I've gotta admit that this makes me want to try this out. Any advice on how much max weight I should hang? I currently hang 15 lbs. Will it feel extremely stressful?
-ItsElectric
You lightweight!! You cant do it!
stillwantmore
02-12-04, 12:22 AM
Wow, I've gotta admit that this makes me want to try this out. Any advice on how much max weight I should hang? I currently hang 15 lbs. Will it feel extremely stressful?
-ItsElectric
I tried this today and love it. I had to tighten my hanger more than usual of course, but I got a great work out with fewer sets. I did a total of 3 sets today, and with 25lbs my first set, 27.5lbs the next set and back to 25lbs my last set. All done BTC. I like this a lot better than 9 sets+ with 17.5 to 20lbs. I do not under any circumstances advocate that guys just go ahead and make drastic jumps in the level of weight they are using. This has to be done with extreme care. It has taken me several months....more like over a year, combined time of off and on hanging to work up to using 20lbs. So, in reality, I'm 'only' hanging 5 to 7.5lbs over my usual weight level.
I would personally advise only going a few pounds higher in weight than you might normally...at least at first to see how it feels. If things dont feel right, try changing your hanger settings or the amount of wrap you use. This may seem more than obvious to some of us, but the heavier you hang, the tighter your hanger should be.
quijjiboo
02-12-04, 12:40 AM
Heavy weight and less time sort of defeats the purpose of hanging no?
stillwantmore
02-12-04, 01:04 AM
NO. Why would it defeat the purpose of hanging?? The purpose...or more aptly, the POINT of hanging is to get a stretch for much longer than you could ever get with your hands doing manual stretching...with a set level of resistance. If you use your hands...you 'may' be able to get a stretch at 20lbs++, but only for a few minutes at most before your hands get tired and your grip fails. With hanging...you dont need your hands, and you can hold the stretch for 15 to 20 minutes.
quijjiboo
02-12-04, 01:15 AM
NO. Why would it defeat the purpose of hanging?? The purpose...or more aptly, the POINT of hanging is to get a stretch for much longer than you could ever get with your hands doing manual stretching...with a set level of resistance. If you use your hands...you 'may' be able to get a stretch at 20lbs++, but only for a few minutes at most before your hands get tired and your grip fails. With hanging...you dont need your hands, and you can hold the stretch for 15 to 20 minutes.
I can hold a hard stretch for a good 5 minutes, and anyone could work up to that with practice. So all I have to do is switch hands 3 times to mimic a 20 minute hanging set.
But with my hands I can vary the resistance to get a maximum stretch the entire 20 minutes, wheras with a constant weight the first 10 minutes or so isn't max, but it gets harder as the set goes on. (I may be wrong, thats after 1 month hanging experience)
Also, its a hell of alot more comfortable (and safe) with your hand rather than a hanger, especially with a heavy weight which you plan on using.
So looks to me like manual is the way to go if you want heavy weight and short duration.
Dashdeming
02-12-04, 02:55 PM
I can hold a hard stretch for a good 5 minutes, and anyone could work up to that with practice. So all I have to do is switch hands 3 times to mimic a 20 minute hanging set.
But with my hands I can vary the resistance to get a maximum stretch the entire 20 minutes, wheras with a constant weight the first 10 minutes or so isn't max, but it gets harder as the set goes on. (I may be wrong, thats after 1 month hanging experience)
Also, its a hell of alot more comfortable (and safe) with your hand rather than a hanger, especially with a heavy weight which you plan on using.
So looks to me like manual is the way to go if you want heavy weight and short duration.
I would certainly agree with you that if you have any reservations at all you should not hang. Do what you feel comfortable doing. I must say though that this has worked for me so far because my penis is much longer now. Like many things, there is more than one road that can be traveled to get there. I went through a short period where I switched to manual work but I just wasn't seeing results at the pace I wanted and I also did not have extra time to commit to stretching.
I would also like to add that I will do this until the numbers tell me to hit the stretching again and then I will switch it up.
Believe me though, hanging heavy will make your dick bigger and, for some reason, it makes me away hornier to boot.
Your mileage may vary so be careful gentlemen!
Has anyone else tried and seen results or felt the results?
I have been thinking of doing this, and now my schedule is so busy I rarely have time to PE. This seems like a great way to get a good workout in a very short amount of time. And it seems perfect for the working man of the 2000's :gluedtosc
REDZULU2003
02-16-04, 06:05 PM
Dash ya proof that short workouts really work.
20 mins per-day and great gians...I have always said short intense sessions are as good/better than long medium assed or intense sessions.
Way to go.
WOW!! Sounds very interesting!!!
ItsElectric
02-23-04, 07:36 PM
Did my first routine in a while this morning with this method. I used 20lbs, but felt like I could do more. I'm trying 25lbs tomorrow to see how it feels since I don't have any 2.5lb weights. I've calculated that I only need about .22" a month to get to my goal in 6 months. Tonight is my girth session, and tomorrow morning is my hanging session again. Any last words of advice you could give me? :)
-ItsElectric
Damn, you are at 25 lbs already?
ItsElectric
03-03-04, 07:20 PM
Yeah, I'm going back and forth with 20 and 25lbs.. Some days I can do 25, some I can't. :) Hopefully I'll see gains soon. I've been doing this consistently for almost two weeks now. I'm proud of myself.
-ItsElectric
Mr. Nine
03-03-04, 07:30 PM
Any skin burning to go with those sudden increases in weight? I sometimes do what I call a "shock routine" and it really is demanding on the skin etc. I've been hanging a while and know how to wrap,so I don't need any wrapping instructions. :)
Rich
Yeah, I'm going back and forth with 20 and 25lbs.. Some days I can do 25, some I can't. :) Hopefully I'll see gains soon. I've been doing this consistently for almost two weeks now. I'm proud of myself.
-ItsElectric
How is this working?
stillwantmore
05-08-04, 03:02 PM
Bump!
trigger
05-10-04, 04:06 AM
Dashdeming- Any details on your hanger design? I have made a few but cannot hang over 15lb comfortably.
stillwantmore
05-10-04, 03:22 PM
Dashdeming- Any details on your hanger design? I have made a few but cannot hang over 15lb comfortably.
What type of hangers have you made so far trigger? Have you made a modified BIB yet? I used to use one of those before the production pieces became available and could hang over 15lbs. Maybe your penis just isnt ready for beyond 15lbs yet? That could be another possibility. It took me several months to go from 15lbs to 17.5lbs.
trigger
05-11-04, 07:04 AM
Is the modified Bib good?, thats the one with the PVC tube and the other tube with a V-notch, right? I may give it a go. I made one similar to the Uli type bib hanger which didnt work too well on me.
My first was 2 steel plates with 4 nuts and bolts. My latest was a hinged metal one with 2 nuts and bolts. I have tried some with PVC pipe but it flexed too much. I glued some sandpaper to the metal ones which is amazing for gripping the wrapping material.
I also use a cable clamp with a weight looped which is good up to 5lb. I have made a tugger which is good up to about 4lb but have hung 10lb for a few minutes with it too. I love the tugger as it stretches the full length.
I also think my problem may be too little clamping area, Bib said the commercial bib is 3" long, my biggest was 2-2.5". Bib said he has used ones up to 4.5" long! If only I had that much to spare! He also said he hung 60lb for a short time with the commercial Bib hanger.
I think I am ready for the weight, it is only sore at the clamping point. I can manually stretch what feels like far more than 15lb but just can't hold it long enough. I have been PEing for about 9 months now.
stillwantmore
05-11-04, 07:14 AM
You REALLY need to read my sticky threads at the top of this forum before you injure your dick. The home made bibs are more than 'pretty good' , theyre one of the best options you can have for a home made hanger, and the easiest to make. They are made from a clear nylon hose with braided nylon cord molded through it. The stuff is supposed to flex some. It's described in detail in THIS THREAD. (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=408)
Dash,
In the earlier posts you said you constructed a hanger, can you further elaborate on this?
The science behind plastic deformation shows that duration rather than load is the most important. However, 40% of a tendons maximum load bearing capability has been shown to be optimal for plastic deformation, and I know of no reliable data we can extrapolate this into actual weight for hanging - I'd expect it to be quite a lot....more weight than is commonly used in hanging.
It's Electric
How 'bout, don't rip it off. :D
stillwantmore
06-16-04, 08:38 PM
I put off getting into this until a few days ago because I knew I'd have to change my hanger settings to accommodate the higher weights. I ended up moving the bottom adjustment nuts out a few turns each. Made a big difference for me. I had two very intense 20 minute sets last night with 25lbs! Thats the heaviest I've gone so far, but I like it.
bluenun
06-17-04, 05:31 AM
I put off getting into this until a few days ago because I knew I'd have to change my hanger settings to accommodate the higher weights. I ended up moving the bottom adjustment nuts out a few turns each. Made a big difference for me. I had two very intense 20 minute sets last night with 25lbs! Thats the heaviest I've gone so far, but I like it.
So you found the grip more comfortable for higher weights with the bottom nuts adjusted out a little.
Did you find that you needed to tighten the top nut up much more to stop the hanger sliding too far forward during your hanging set?
That is what has always worried me about hanging, having to tighten the hanger too much. I am afraid of damaging my penis by squashing it.
On another note SWM, are you still wearing the golf weights, any good?
Dashdeming
06-17-04, 06:21 PM
Dash,
In the earlier posts you said you constructed a hanger, can you further elaborate on this?
Sorry it took so long to respond. I have been asked many times for this info so I copied a reply from a PM for you. Take a look and ask questions if you need to. I still need to take some pictures and I will do that as soon as I get another digital cam. Good luck and be careful!
Re: Your Custom Hanger??
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Originally Posted by shism2
How did you make your hanger???? I also want to know how you hang... You just put the weight on the hanger and just let he penis fall and hang downwards??
Ok, to construct the hanger:
Buy a schedule 80 2" PVC coupler. Cut the coupler axially into 1/3 pieces and discard on piece. Buy a short stick of 3/4"X3/4" sst angle iron. Cut 4 pieces of angle iron to 1/4" shorter than the 2" coupler. Bend the 4 angle iron pieces from the 90 degree angles to about 135 degress.Clamp the angles axially to the outside edges of the 2 couplers and then drill three 3/16" holes through the angle and coupler. Do this to all four edges. Get 3/16" sst pop style rivets that are about 1/2" long and set them tightly from the concave side. This will give you two pieces of PVC with two angles on each that, when held together, form a clamp with the angles reasonably parallel to each other. Clamp the two halves together and then drill two holes in each side. Get machine screws (start with 3" long and trim to suit your size) with washers and wing nuts. Put these through the holes to allow sizing anf tightening. Next step is to get a 12" piece of strapping and rivet one end to the forward edge of each half of the clamp and in the pvc. Remember to insert and set the rivet from the concave side. Last step is to buy a dense foam rubber kneepad or similar material and cut two pieces to fit into the concave side of each clamp half. Rivet this in place using washers too so that the padding does not move. I also used polyurethane to glue this into the clamps. Now you are ready to hang.
I used a heating pad to warm up then wrapped with ace type material that is self sticking. You choose where to place the clamp but I placed mine about mid-way of my shaft and left about 1 1/2" in front. Adjust the clamp to your taste so that you are comfortable. Also, the gaps should be vertical so you are not clamping on your nerves along the top of your penis. When you are happy with the clamp you can then apply weight as you wish. I sit in a chair and rock back sort of on my back and use a straight out pulley arrangement with weight at the end. This allows me to work and surf while hanging. I never hang more than 20 minutes at a time but sometimes I hang 2 times per day. Good Luck!
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"I have never lived this long before" - Dash
stillwantmore
06-18-04, 11:28 AM
So you found the grip more comfortable for higher weights with the bottom nuts adjusted out a little.
Did you find that you needed to tighten the top nut up much more to stop the hanger sliding too far forward during your hanging set?
That is what has always worried me about hanging, having to tighten the hanger too much. I am afraid of damaging my penis by squashing it.
The BIB hangers are designed to be used very tightly. There are grooves and channels molded into the hanger insides that allow for blood flow with the hanger tight.
On the nuts. For me yes. Moving out the bottom adjustment nuts allows the penis to be put farther down into the hanger....you want to be as far down in the hanger as you can be anyway. It's hard to explain. You just have to have a BIB and know the user guide well enough to understand what I'm talking about. There's not really such a thing as tightening a BIB hanger "too much". You want it tight enough so that it will anchor itself where it should when hanging. If you have it set up properly, there wont be any problems with it moving during hanging. Again, you just have to have a BIB to know what I'm talking about.
Sorry it took so long to respond. I have been asked many times for this info so I copied a reply from a PM for you. Take a look and ask questions if you need to. I still need to take some pictures and I will do that as soon as I get another digital cam. Good luck and be careful!
Re: Your Custom Hanger??
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shism2
How did you make your hanger???? I also want to know how you hang... You just put the weight on the hanger and just let he penis fall and hang downwards??
Ok, to construct the hanger:
Buy a schedule 80 2" PVC coupler. Cut the coupler axially into 1/3 pieces and discard on piece. Buy a short stick of 3/4"X3/4" sst angle iron. Cut 4 pieces of angle iron to 1/4" shorter than the 2" coupler. Bend the 4 angle iron pieces from the 90 degree angles to about 135 degress.Clamp the angles axially to the outside edges of the 2 couplers and then drill three 3/16" holes through the angle and coupler. Do this to all four edges. Get 3/16" sst pop style rivets that are about 1/2" long and set them tightly from the concave side. This will give you two pieces of PVC with two angles on each that, when held together, form a clamp with the angles reasonably parallel to each other. Clamp the two halves together and then drill two holes in each side. Get machine screws (start with 3" long and trim to suit your size) with washers and wing nuts. Put these through the holes to allow sizing anf tightening. Next step is to get a 12" piece of strapping and rivet one end to the forward edge of each half of the clamp and in the pvc. Remember to insert and set the rivet from the concave side. Last step is to buy a dense foam rubber kneepad or similar material and cut two pieces to fit into the concave side of each clamp half. Rivet this in place using washers too so that the padding does not move. I also used polyurethane to glue this into the clamps. Now you are ready to hang.
I used a heating pad to warm up then wrapped with ace type material that is self sticking. You choose where to place the clamp but I placed mine about mid-way of my shaft and left about 1 1/2" in front. Adjust the clamp to your taste so that you are comfortable. Also, the gaps should be vertical so you are not clamping on your nerves along the top of your penis. When you are happy with the clamp you can then apply weight as you wish. I sit in a chair and rock back sort of on my back and use a straight out pulley arrangement with weight at the end. This allows me to work and surf while hanging. I never hang more than 20 minutes at a time but sometimes I hang 2 times per day. Good Luck!
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"I have never lived this long before" - Dash
Any pictures? it may be just me but your explanation put me in the same position as a blind monkey in the dark.
Dashdeming
06-27-04, 06:53 AM
I am being asked a lot by newer users regarding my "Hardcore Hanging" style that I have been using for the last 16 months so I wanted to bump this thread up for easy find.
Remember guys, this is not for new hangers. You must work your way up tp these big weights so you don't hurt yourself. Be carefule!!
Dashdeming
07-29-04, 06:56 PM
I hung 42 pounds for 20 minutes this morning!!! For some reason after I took the hanger off I got really, really hard almost like some sort of reaction. Talk about feeling awesome!!!!
42 pounds!! DAMN!
What kind of gains are you making Dash?
Dashdeming
07-30-04, 06:29 AM
Last measurement about 3 months ago I was over 2 1/2" longer than when I started.
oopapercutoo
07-30-04, 03:32 PM
It's great to see that you've made such tremendous progress Dash, that really gives me something to look forward to as I continue my hanging. I just began hanging a couple of weeks ago, so I'm not ready to attempt this "hardcore" hanging yet, but I might try it out in the future....
I hope you continue to receive amazing gains.
Dashdeming
07-30-04, 06:03 PM
Thanks Sir. Yes, condition and build up tp it and remember that hardcore hanging is not for everyone. Good luck with your gains dude.
Wow,Thats awesome Dash!!
Are those gains since you started hanging or since youve been into hard core hanging?
Also, for how long have you been hanging in total?
Dashdeming
07-31-04, 06:24 AM
Wow,Thats awesome Dash!!
Are those gains since you started hanging or since youve been into hard core hanging?
Also, for how long have you been hanging in total?
Due to my lack of time and lack of privacy as I am a stealth PE'er, I have always been a hanger in this way which is ato only hang one 20 minute very heavy session per day. I have been able to throw in a second session on about 5% of those days.
I have been hanging for 22 months.
gorillaunit
07-31-04, 11:41 PM
Due to my lack of time and lack of privacy as I am a stealth PE'er, I have always been a hanger in this way which is ato only hang one 20 minute very heavy session per day. I have been able to throw in a second session on about 5% of those days.
I have been hanging for 22 months.
hey dash, any problems with erections after those 22 months? slower to get one, etc.?
Thanks for the answers Dash.
Dashdeming
08-01-04, 06:27 AM
hey dash, any problems with erections after those 22 months? slower to get one, etc.?
Gorilla,
Yes, early on I did have erection problems but it was there from an accident that I was involved in and it was not due to the hanging as it was hauning me about a year before I seriously started PE. Good luck with your hanging and be safe.
hey Thanks for the answers Dash.
You are welcome Matt.
Good luck with your hanging and be safe.
Hi there! I´m new to this place but not new to hanging.I´m hanging since 1.5 years on and off´,have gained about an inch within the first few months.Then I read Bib´s LOT theory and started OTS hanging for the next 4 months.
My LOT back then was about 7.Anyway,didn´t gain anything from OTS.
So I´m back to BTC,this time hardcore hanging for 1 hour a day without any rest days.I can comfortably hang 25 pounds for 3 sets of 20 minutes (before I was hanging 17.5 pounds for 6 sets).
I hope this will give me another inch gain within the next couple of months.
Dashdeming
09-30-04, 06:39 AM
Good first post and welcome to the forum. Sounds like you have a good routine and I am anxious to here more from you regarding your success in the future. Are you using a BIB hanger or other device?
derringer57
09-30-04, 08:08 AM
I am starting Bib starter hanger, going 2-3 15 minute sets on 7.5lbs. I have a LOT of 8 and am hanging everyday until next summer like 7 months, hoping to make major gains by then. New Years and then end of March and May next year are my goal dates, with measuring dates every month.
What kind of gains do you think I will see and what do you reccomend?
I am just under 8"BP and 5.75" girth with 6" base girth.
BTW has your base girth grown at all? If so what did you start at and what is it now?
doublelongdaddy
09-30-04, 01:09 PM
I hung 42 pounds for 20 minutes this morning!
Damn, thats like a half-a-one of the Olsen Twins. :D
Imagine in like a year he could hang a whole olsen twin. Then you can only imagine the possibilities.
muscleup
09-30-04, 03:23 PM
I have not started really hanging yet. But when I do, I have to agree with SWM that 20 min sessions a few times a day is best. I base this on medical info I picked up in a burn unit I worked in.
When the physical therapists come in to stretch a patient's ligaments and skin so that they do not retract, they do so several times a day around the clock. Every 6 hours at least I have heard is best between stretches in order to prevent the body from retracting what you have just stretched. By doing so in this manner, consistent and permanent gains can be made with the tough tissue of ligs .
When I get my hanger, I think I will start a routine that will be stretching 3-4 times a day as evenly spaced out as I can with my schedule. I think SWM is right on track with that idea. And the hanging weight I will use will be one which will not let the ligs "accomodate" too quickly to the weight and which would just let the ligs and tunica get tougher and stronger without the stretch that I want. So it needs to be fairly heavy but not heavy enough to cause damage and hurt. You need to stay "ahead of the game" when it comes to accomodation and your body wanting to always return to normal.
derringer57
09-30-04, 08:11 PM
Hmm wake up 5:30 get rid of morning wood hang from 5:40 to 6, once back at home at 3 hang another 20 minutes, but probably like 3 sets of 20, then 2 sets of 20 before I go to bed. That would work well.
I´m using the Bib starter model.Right now I´m hanging 27 pounds.After about 3 minutes it gets pretty comfortable.
I like to hang all 3 sets in a row,maybe I will add another set in the evening.
Thanks for welcoming me and I will keep you informed about my gains.I plan to measure after about 2 months.
My measurements right now are 8 BP and I hope to gain at least one inch,but I´m not in a hurry.
Hardcore hanging rules.I can´t believe I can hang that much weight from my dick.The Bib is definetely worth a fortune!
can anyone hook me up wit a hanger, get at at ron_coachman82@yahoo.com
Up to 29 pounds for two 15 minute sets.For the last two sets I have to reduce.
My flaccid has already improved.In fact I cant believe what I see in the mirror.Something´s going on down there,that´s for sure.
One question for stillwantmore:Did you ever check your LOT,since your only hanging BTC.Cause I have the feelling that OTS didn´t do shit for me.
Dashdeming
So, with this "Hard Core Hanging", it's seems to me, you're breaking the "Hanging is not a weight lifting competition" rule?
Right! But Bib said that any connective tissue fails at some weight.So why should you hang light weight when you´re able to hang much heavier without discomfort.
I think that as long as you listen to your body or in this case to your dick you will be able to avoid injury and hopefully gain much faster.We´ll see.
I´m getting a much more intense workout in less time.
Dashdeming
10-04-04, 06:53 AM
Dashdeming
So, with this "Hard Core Hanging", it's seems to me, you're breaking the "Hanging is not a weight lifting competition" rule?
Well it would seem that way, however, I have actually gradually increased weight to get where I am at and every person has their own response that should be followed closely from hanging. read your body and do what safely works for you. - Dash
bluenun
10-05-04, 12:59 PM
For those of you following hard core hanging how long do you use a weight before adding a pound or two?
I know everyone is different but can you give me a rough idea, e.g use the weight for 2 weeks and then add a bit.
Dashdeming
10-05-04, 04:22 PM
I was able to jump at the rate of 1 pound every week. Granted that there were weeks early on that I jumped faster, but 1 pound each week is a conservative rate that worked for me. Just be careful!
bluenun
10-19-04, 03:59 AM
I was able to jump at the rate of 1 pound every week. Granted that there were weeks early on that I jumped faster, but 1 pound each week is a conservative rate that worked for me. Just be careful!
Thanks Dashdeming,
Ok that gives me an idea of the rate you progressed.
How often did/do you measure for length increases?
I ask because I wonder whether you upped your weight when your gains stopped or you just kept adding a pound at regular intervals even if you were still gaining from the previous weight.
Dashdeming
10-19-04, 05:14 AM
I did not and do not use measuring and gains as a determination of adding weight. I did use feedback from my penis as a means of determining the right time to add more weight. I used level of soreness, color, and pain as my guide. I pretty much limit measuring to monthly and sometimes quarterly. The rate of gain slows as you get longer and longer, or at least it did for me. Keep in mind that I frequently only hang one 20 minute session per day. If I could get 2 or 3 hangs in a day I would be better off but I just don't have the time.
aishoal
11-30-04, 06:57 AM
Dash,
If you some time get near a digital camera of some sort, I'd really like to see pics of your hanger device. The explanation can be hard to understand. At least for a foreginer, so pics may be a big help to that end.
Thanks a lot.
GOMER_PYLE
03-07-05, 09:45 AM
I'm glad I stumbled onto this thread because time is a constraint for me. I think my set up will work for this because my fish scale goes up to 50 pounds. The only hard part will be keeping it on a steady "weight" during my sets. At least weight changes will be quick though, lol. I've been hanging 20 pounds for as many 20 minute sets as time will allow per night, 7 nights a week. This is usually 3-5 sets so I think I'll start with 23-25 pounds for a couple sets and then just work the weight up instead of the number of sets. I'll be careful of course and let my pecker tell me how much it can take. Thanks for the inspiration.
Gomer
AnotherGuy
03-07-05, 06:28 PM
This seems interesting, I think I may give this a shot, say 20min hanging when I wake up, 20min when I get home, and 20 min before I go to bed. I think I'll give it a shot.
AnotherGuy
03-08-05, 04:19 PM
Ok I've only hung 2x today once this morning for 20 min around 9 and just now, the fatigue is crazy, gonna do 1 more 20 min set before bedtime. It's doing something different I'll tell you that.
GOMER_PYLE
03-08-05, 10:12 PM
I did my first "hardcore" 20 minute, 25 pound set last night and didn't feel any fatigue. I think I'll try the one 20 minute, 25 pound set per night for a week and see if I feel anything by then. If not, I'll up it to two sets. 25 pounds seems like a helluva lot but I'm not feeling any lig soreness.
Im2mackin
03-09-05, 03:42 AM
Ok guys, would you suggest hardcore hanging with the WENCH or is that a definate NO NO. Does anyone here hardcore hang with the wench ...is it even possible?
I plan on doing hardcore hanging with the wench 3 sets a day(morn, noon, night) and hopefully i'll see some results.
thanks in advance
doublelongdaddy
03-09-05, 11:41 AM
Dash, Presently I hang 7 sets at 20 minutes per day. My first five sets are with 25lbs. and my final 2 sets are at 20lbs. What is you suggestion for me to try, weight-wise, undertaking your methods?
Grower01
03-09-05, 12:16 PM
IM2makin - only try 20 lbs with a wench after you have been successful at 19 pounds. only try 19 after 18 is OK. And so on......
edit: that rule is valid for ANY hanger
Dashdeming
03-09-05, 01:59 PM
Dash, Presently I hang 7 sets at 20 minutes per day. My first five sets are with 25lbs. and my final 2 sets are at 20lbs. What is you suggestion for me to try, weight-wise, undertaking your methods?
DLD,
I would say that if you are okay with the amount of time you are spending hanging then stick with what you have going. Otherwise, slowly creep the weight up and lower the sets per day depending on how your penis feels. If you are making gains doing your routine, I wouldn't change anything at this point. I do believe though that more weight will eventually have to be added. I remember reading that Bib hung with as much as 45 pounds later in his gaining period. Certainly you would want to slowly work up to this much though.
Im2mackin
03-09-05, 05:10 PM
Ok grower, but do u think that the Wench can physically handle the weight without something falling apart or breaking? In other words is it sturdy enough for the higher weight?
Im2mackin
03-16-05, 10:35 PM
bump...
Grower01
03-23-05, 12:23 PM
Ok grower, but do u think that the Wench can physically handle the weight without something falling apart or breaking? In other words is it sturdy enough for the higher weight?
Sorry, don't know anything about the wench.
aishoal
04-01-05, 03:11 AM
Dash,
If you some time get near a digital camera of some sort, I'd really like to see pics of your hanger device. The explanation can be hard to understand. At least for a foreginer, so pics may be a big help to that end.
Thanks a lot.
Im2mackin
04-05-05, 01:30 AM
Note : i have done PE for about 1 1/2 years
Ok to the HArd core hangers out there, i have just started hanging about 2 weeks ago. I started at a light 10lbs but only did 1 set for 20 mins. Now two weeks into it(everyday routine) i can hang 17.5lbs from 1 to 2 sets a day(as time allows). Do you guys think i am jumping in weight to quickly? or if i ass 2.5 like every month or so i will see a DASh in gains?(joke)
Dashdeming
04-05-05, 05:49 AM
It is possible that you can jump in weight a little quicker at first and then as the weight increases you will need to add at a slower rate. I think you will see a DASH in gains in a flash. :)
GOMER_PYLE
06-06-05, 09:49 AM
Dash, how often do you hang straight out? I ask this because if I "hang" straight down I won't be able to see how much weight I'm using because I use a fish scale to determine how hard I'm stretching. What percentage would you say you do? Something like 70% straight down/30% straight out most of the time? I'm up to 14 pounds for 2-20 minute sets per night and I feel some fatigue so I think the straight out is working. Check the link in my sig for a better idea of the angle of stretch I'm using. I guess I could put a mirror on the floor or something to see the weight level. Either that or I could find an object that weighs "x" pounds and use it when I hang straight down instead of my fish scale.
Dashdeming
06-06-05, 03:26 PM
I would say 50/50 for the most part, however, I do switch back and forth as my ligs stretch. I would suggest either get a mirror or start hanging with real weight while seated. Sounds like you may be on the right track but I would change the angles to keep getting length from the tunica and the ligs. Be careful and good luck!
Wow I am amazed and thoroughly impressed with this site. It's like a stinkin' encyclopedia!
Ok, my question for everyone that is hanging with heavy weights is this. Is the majority of your hang time standing and hanging straight down? Or are you guys handling poundages of 25+ lbs in the seated BTC position.
The reason I ask is that I was hanging about 22lbs while standing for sets of 20 minutes in Dec 2001 and was scared to death that I was gonna rip my Johnson off so I quit. My flaccid hang was getting very cool looking and erections were hard and mean looking (translation: wife liked). BTW, I was using the modified BIB and should've stayed with that model because the wrap worked great.
When I went to the new model and went to seated BTC hanging, my weight went to nothing and a series of bad things happened so I quit hanging altogether but if I can go back to standing...
Dashdeming
06-06-05, 05:17 PM
I use a high and a low large wheel low resistance pulley system that allows me to vary from an upright sit to laying down while hanging from the low pulley position. This lets me hang straight down to near BTC angles. I use a heating pad currently as my source of heat and I use four 10 pound barbell weights. This works really well for me. I either use my home made hanger of the BIB starter hanger. I highly recommend the BIB hanger as it is a quality product that obviously has a lot of thought behind it. Good luck and be careful!
GOMER_PYLE
06-06-05, 06:04 PM
Thanks. Yeah, the Bib starter is a great hanging device. I've felt absolutely no slippage since I got it adjusted correctly.
Thanks Dash. I just did 7.50lbs standing up for 20 minutes and that certainly brought up some good ol feelings.
Dashdeming
06-06-05, 08:11 PM
Thanks Dash. I just did 7.50lbs standing up for 20 minutes and that certainly brought up some good ol feelings.
By the way, welcome to MOS!
GOMER_PYLE
06-20-05, 04:27 PM
I'm up to 15 pounds per set and I do one set straight out and one straight down, 7 days per week and I can definitely feel fatigue. I also do my straight out set at 4 PM and my straight down set at 9 PM. I'm feeling really good fatigue at 15 pounds so I think I'll stick with 15 for one more week and then move up to 16 just to make sure I'm conditioned. I believe that hardcore hanging will work for me just as it did for Dash. Maybe not that fast though but I'm going to be optimistic. What were your gains Dash, around 1/8" per month or a little over?
Dashdeming
06-20-05, 06:57 PM
I gained the first 2 inches in about 18 months as I remember. The gains are more rapid at first and then slow as you go. This is why I have added more weight and more time. Sounds like you are going at a good pace and being smart about your hanging. Good luck!
mate, if you want to hear hardcore hanging i saw some qui master on tv the other day and the guy lifted 200 kg and another guy lifted a human
GOMER_PYLE
06-21-05, 03:46 PM
From their penises? You'd think that would rip them off pretty fast,lol. Talk about lig stretch. Next they should try tying a long rope (like 1/4 mile)to their glans while standing still, then tying the other end to the bumper of a muscle car and telling the driver to floor it. I'd pay to see that shit.
iwant8inches
06-26-05, 08:40 PM
I'm going to hang 18 lbs right now and see how it goes. I'll hang for as long as I can up to 20 minutes. I'll see how this goes for a few days. I'm really strapped for time here.
BusyMan
09-21-05, 06:52 AM
Dash,
How is it going with your gains? Still gaining?
I have started hanging recently using a Bib starter, and I do kind of a Hardcore Hanging routine inspired by your hardcore hanging philosophy.
Have you considered doing anything to supplement your hanging sessions? (ADS, golf weights, etc?) What is your thoughts on that?
Do you use any kind of heat before/when you hang?
Thanks a lot
bigsack
09-22-05, 02:49 AM
I think I'm gonna try this method, as my gains from the traditional hanging methods have slowed. Are you guys still gaining from this more intense technique?
Dashdeming
09-22-05, 09:44 AM
I am still slowly gaining and have added another 1/8" in the last 60 days. It works but be careful!
That's great that your still gaining with it Dash. What weight are you currently hanging?
BusyMan
09-23-05, 07:54 AM
And how much did you gain in total using your Hardcore Hanging routine?
And during how long a period?
Dashdeming
09-25-05, 05:50 PM
I currently hang max of 40 pounds at 20 minute intervals. I have gained right at 3" since starting.
Hey Dash, do you recommend working your way up to "harcore hanging"? I am currently hanging 10lbs. BTC about 6 or 7 sets a day.
BusyMan
09-26-05, 03:27 AM
Dash,
Impressive stuff.
How long did it take you to gain these three inches?
You hang max 40 pounds at 20 minute intervals. Still only one set a day?
Do you back that up with some sort of ADS device, or did all that gain come from hardcore hanging only?
This sounds great to all us who cannot devote more than maximum one hour a day total to PE.
blackmont
09-26-05, 03:38 AM
"shm"
LukeSkywalker
09-26-05, 10:45 AM
hanging 40 lbs? What kind of hanger are you using, still your homeaide hanger? I don't even think that the Redi-Streatcher could bear that weight. Any possibility you could post pictures along with your plans so that we might be able to make one when the time is right?
Also, did you use any kind of ADS?
Thanks,
Luke
LukeSkywalker
09-26-05, 02:28 PM
homeaide-what can I say, a lazy person kind of defeats the purpose of Spelchek. I meant homemade.
Luke
Dashdeming
09-26-05, 06:25 PM
hanging 40 lbs? What kind of hanger are you using, still your homeaide hanger? I don't even think that the Redi-Streatcher could bear that weight. Any possibility you could post pictures along with your plans so that we might be able to make one when the time is right?
Also, did you use any kind of ADS?
Thanks,
Luke
I use my home made hanger and also the BIB starter. I generally do not use an ADS. I fully recommend the BIB starter which is a very well thought out and constructed hanger. You are not going to beat a BIB starter. By one and use it wisely and you will not regret doing so!
BusyMan
09-27-05, 02:49 AM
Dash,
Still only one 20 minute set a day.
And how many days a week?
GOMER_PYLE
09-27-05, 03:36 PM
I'm getting back into hardcore hanging today when I get home because I just can't devote more than 1 hour per day to it. I try but shit keeps coming up that I need to do. I'm at 20 pounds straight down for 1 hour per day right now and I didn't make any gains from 8/25-9/25 so I think I'm going to try straight out for the next month and increase 1 pound each week. So 1 hour per day, straight out, starting with 20 pounds and ending with 24 pounds. Hopefully I'll be able to gain something doing this. If I don't gain anything doing it straight out I'll go back to straight down and increase 1 pound per week until this stubborn bastard decides to give in to the pressure. I think my ligs are made of steel.
Dashdeming
09-27-05, 10:20 PM
Dash,
Still only one 20 minute set a day.
And how many days a week?
I have been getting in 4-5 20 minute sets a day lately for 5 days each week. I try to make 2 of these at 40 pounds and the rest at 30 and 20 pounds.
Dash, are the two 40 pound sets the first two sets after coming back to hanging after the two day or so break every 6th & 7th day (getting back into fatigue and then riding it out through the end of the 5 days)?
Also, have you noticed any special sensations in the ligs in the 6th & 7th days (weekend?)as the ligs seem to try to start healing themselves (pinpoint minute stinging, etc.)? I have been and have wondered if you do.
Thanks,
-poke
smallwannabebig
10-22-05, 01:43 AM
I think this is a great idea the hardcore hanging. Although I would first try to see if I could get gains from stretching and lower weight longer duration hanging. Obviously this is great for people low on time. I'm interested to hear the other members who are trying this and how it worked for them. I think one missing link which is not a requirement but i would strongly reccomend is an ADS (All Day Stretcher) when you are not hanging so that your penis stays in an extended state throughout the day.
GOMER_PYLE
11-08-05, 10:35 PM
So let me get this straight Dash. When you started out you only did 1 or 2 sets and increased the weight by 1 pound per week. I assume that the gains slowed for you so you began doing more sets and increasing weight at 1 pound per week. If this is correct, did it help improve your gains again like you had when you started? I'm at 20 pounds per set, 15 minute sets, for 1.5-2 hours per night right now but I'm not going to measure until after Thanksgiving. Also, do you use a Bib hanger? If so, do you still have the gel padding installed in it?
GAINED what seems to be my first(1/4) lenght gains after 1 1/2 years of hanging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
BELIEVE IT!!
Starting 28th of october is started using 25-28lbs for as long as i can take it
usually to about 10 mins
then drop to 20 for an other 10 and take a 5 min breather and finish of with about
20 mins of 15lbs. I also use and ADS and sleep with it averaging about 10-12 hours sometimes more sometimes less. I am dedicated and will continue this quest?
Feel free for any comments and question/
This hard core hanging shit is not for me, maybe one day but what fucking torture>
I tried it for a month and got a 1/4:cool:
I now dropped down to 20lbs and do that very comfortably,
I also started switching up angles to SO and hitting the tunica which brought
me another 1/4 giving me(although not cemented) close to a 1/2" this last month and a half.
I desirve this more than any of you can imagine as I hung for a 1 1/2 with no results on the ruler, to find out my lot is super low and now switching up the angles fella's is working:) I'm still a jump, hop, and a skip away from having an respectable average length but I think this year will see many improvements.
GOMER_PYLE
01-10-06, 07:43 PM
Good deal man, I'm in the same boat only it has been 7 months instead of 1.5 years. Earlier in this thread I said that I had my Bib starter adjusted correctly but I didn't. All I did was move the wrap and hanger a little farther from the head and now I can pull 20-25 pounds comfortably instead of 18 pounds uncomfortably. You guys need to look very closely at SWM's pics in the "How to" guide for the Bib starter to see how it should look if you're having trouble. The sticky threads really do help out! Now I'm going to do Hardcore Hanging for real this time and see what happens. I also bought a Circle Device to use for a few hours after my sets and possibly while I'm at work so I hope to post some gains before summer this year.
Dashdeming
01-11-06, 07:06 PM
Thanks Gomer for pointing this out again. BIB sells an excellent product and, when set up properly, will serve you well. Guys, don't give up. Read and learn and experiment until you get your BIB set up correctly. Make the effort and reap the benefits!!
Good deal man, I'm in the same boat only it has been 7 months instead of 1.5 years. Earlier in this thread I said that I had my Bib starter adjusted correctly but I didn't. All I did was move the wrap and hanger a little farther from the head and now I can pull 20-25 pounds comfortably instead of 18 pounds uncomfortably. You guys need to look very closely at SWM's pics in the "How to" guide for the Bib starter to see how it should look if you're having trouble. The sticky threads really do help out! Now I'm going to do Hardcore Hanging for real this time and see what happens. I also bought a Circle Device to use for a few hours after my sets and possibly while I'm at work so I hope to post some gains before summer this year.
bigcharlie
02-08-06, 08:27 AM
Well I finally measured like 1/16" an inch (consistently) gain in my BPFSL and this was 2 days after I started hardcore hanging.
I jumped from 15 to 20 lbs, and was only able to bear this weight when i moved the wrap up towards the base and made it tighter. So, I do 1 set at 10lbs to warm up, then a set at 20lbs each for 20 mins.
Follow this by manual stretches and DLD blasters (about 30 mins worth), and end with 200-300 90-100% jelqs.
My biggest problem is translating BPFSL to EL. I keep getting stretchier but not longer when I'm hard. :(
PS I may soon have more free time in the morning, so I may do 2 hardcore hanging sets a day, 1 in am, and 1 in pm followed by stretch/jelq.
Dashdeming
02-08-06, 08:43 AM
Keep at it and you will get there. Learn about the effects of hanging at different angles and hanger placements and the relation to where you gain (ligs or tunica or both). Read read read.
Well I finally measured like 1/16" an inch (consistently) gain in my BPFSL and this was 2 days after I started hardcore hanging.
I jumped from 15 to 20 lbs, and was only able to bear this weight when i moved the wrap up towards the base and made it tighter. So, I do 1 set at 10lbs to warm up, then a set at 20lbs each for 20 mins.
Follow this by manual stretches and DLD blasters (about 30 mins worth), and end with 200-300 90-100% jelqs.
My biggest problem is translating BPFSL to EL. I keep getting stretchier but not longer when I'm hard. :(
PS I may soon have more free time in the morning, so I may do 2 hardcore hanging sets a day, 1 in am, and 1 in pm followed by stretch/jelq.
hey dash, this thread has been going a while now and i was wondering if you have any gains to post? do you think you are currently in a plateau?
Dashdeming
03-09-06, 08:23 PM
EVO,
I am in a girth PE period and not hanging at all for 6 months. I do some A stretches 3 times per week still just to keep everything accustomed to stretching. I intend to go back to hanging again next month.
hey dash, this thread has been going a while now and i was wondering if you have any gains to post? do you think you are currently in a plateau?
ok thanks for replying man! :)
Dashdeming
03-10-06, 06:06 PM
ok thanks for replying man! :)
No problem bro
just wanna update this thread, its soo interesting. if anyone is using this method atm - post your results below. will be interested to read them :)
REDZULU2003
07-02-06, 05:15 PM
Dash would love to know what your current routine is and your current stats.
Your my inspiration at the moment for starting hanging again.
I'm using a vacuum hanger and plan on starting out doing one 20 minute set using 10lbs on a 6 day 1 off basis.
This is the same as you did in the start but you used 8lbs back than.
I than plan on moving the weight up 5lbs every 4 months so at my 12th month I will be at 25lbs [you were at 24lbs after 12 months].
I'll try to add a second set in when I can as often as I can eachday after the first month [get me settled] like you did.
This is my plan of attack at the moment. Will be hanging straight down, thats all.
I think I can do it, but CONSISTENCY is the key and I must be PATIENT.
I've made so many half arsed attempts at going for length, but now I WANT IT and I really do want it ... length is what I want more than anything at the moment and this routine [nearly like yours] will get me to that.
I'll measure once per month.
Also I will add this for those who read this. I think some may be getting confused when they read this thread and think they should jump in at 20lbs or more when that isnt the case and if you read the 1st post, Dash states he started with 8lbs
I started at 8 pounds about 15 months ago and then moved up to 24 with-in 12 months. I hust recently moved up to 33 pounds so it will be several months before I move up more so you MUST start LIGHT and build up every 4-6 months in weight.
I feel its worked so well for Dash because #1 Hes been CONSISTENT, #2 Its not overdoing it ... ONE 20 minute session per day for 6 days, #3 He's building the weight up SLOWLY as its needed with time, just like with body exercise.
I've seen many members hammer set after set of hanging weights and see little to no gains and thats because they are OVERDOING IT ... more isnt better, and Dash is living proof of this. He didnt gain all those inches from HEAVY HANGING alone, but slow progression of poundage increase over time ... but my point is that it started at 8lbs.
Start light and build up guys, I'm doing that.
Pandora
07-02-06, 05:48 PM
Dash would love to know what your current routine is and your current stats.
Your my inspiration at the moment for starting hanging again.
I'm using a vacuum hanger and plan on starting out doing one 20 minute set using 10lbs on a 6 day 1 off basis.
This is the same as you did in the start but you used 8lbs back than.
I than plan on moving the weight up 5lbs every 4 months so at my 12th month I will be at 25lbs [you were at 24lbs after 12 months].
I'll try to add a second set in when I can as often as I can eachday after the first month [get me settled] like you did.
This is my plan of attack at the moment. Will be hanging straight down, thats all.
I think I can do it, but CONSISTENCY is the key and I must be PATIENT.
I've made so many half arsed attempts at going for length, but now I WANT IT and I really do want it ... length is what I want more than anything at the moment and this routine [nearly like yours] will get me to that.
I'll measure once per month.
Also I will add this for those who read this. I think some may be getting confused when they read this thread and think they should jump in at 20lbs or more when that isnt the case and if you read the 1st post, Dash states he started with 8lbs so you MUST start LIGHT and build up every 4-6 months in weight.
I feel its worked so well for Dash because #1 Hes been CONSISTENT, #2 Its not overdoing it ... ONE 20 minute session per day for 6 days, #3 He's building the weight up SLOWLY as its needed with time, just like with body exercise.
I've seen many members hammer set after set of hanging weights and see little to no gains and thats because they are OVERDOING IT ... more isnt better, and Dash is living proof of this. He didnt gain all those inches from HEAVY HANGING alone, but slow progression of poundage increase over time ... but my point is that it started at 8lbs.
Start light and build up guys, I'm doing that.
If the lot theroy is true then it makes sense why Dasheming made so much gains from this whats your lot REDZULA2003.
Smartweedz
07-03-06, 10:13 AM
I wish I had some weights!!
REDZULU2003
07-03-06, 07:55 PM
What was Dash's LOT? never saw it mentioned ... must have missed it?
I myself dont read into the LOT theory myself, as if you stretch ANY portion of the penis in ANY direction for a given lengthof time reguler than it will in time grow ...
I have found this out myself and heard so from many users on this and other forums like it but at the sametime I aint saying the LOT theory means nothing ... just that I dont think it should be something we go by like its set in stone for the reasons I mentioned but than again someone could argue for the opposite and mention members have seen gains from advice regarding the LOT theory!!.
blackice
07-03-06, 09:01 PM
blackice disagrees. I hung BTC for well over a year and some months(that's gotta be a record) and never gained any. I switched angels according to the LOT Dec. 05 and have gained for the first. :)
Pandora
07-04-06, 12:47 AM
What was Dash's LOT? never saw it mentioned ... must have missed it?
I myself dont read into the LOT theory myself, as if you stretch ANY portion of the penis in ANY direction for a given lengthof time reguler than it will in time grow ...
I have found this out myself and heard so from many users on this and other forums like it but at the sametime I aint saying the LOT theory means nothing ... just that I dont think it should be something we go by like its set in stone for the reasons I mentioned but than again someone could argue for the opposite and mention members have seen gains from advice regarding the LOT theory!!.
Well when the Lot theory was written dash's lot was 9 but i don't know what it was when he started this thread i would of thought it was 11 or pretty close to that.
REDZULU2003
07-04-06, 05:26 PM
I'll check and see what my LOT is
REDZULU2003
07-04-06, 06:01 PM
Appears my LOT is just short of 7. So it means I should attack the Tunica with high angle work, OTS hanging really and not straight down.
Also found some nice links, this one is from Millionman and his views on the LOT theory http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showpost.php?p=221446&postcount=15
This will help anyone understand how to work their LOT http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showpost.php?p=153857&postcount=22 and that is quoted below.
"When LOT is 9:00-12:00, potential for quick and easy gains from low hanging and stretching is optimal.
When LOT is 8:00-9:00, potential for quick and easy gains from low hanging and stretching is enough to exploit; however, checking for changes in LOT should be practiced, as the LOT decreases as the ligaments are stretched.
When LOT is 7:00-8:00, potential gains from low hanging and stretching is minimal. Low hanging and stretching should be coupled with high hanging and stretching.
When LOT is 6:00-7:00, potential gains from low hanging and stretching is low enough to ignore ligament stretching. Focus should be placed on stretching the tunica by high angle stretching and hanging."
I'll have a go at hanging OTS instead of straight down, going from my LOT.
or you could hang SO red, i imagine it should be easier...
REDZULU2003
07-05-06, 02:18 PM
SO means Straight out right?
Can you explain to me how to hang like this? it isnt hanging straight down, so how is it done?
cheers
ye it means straight out. the easiest way to hang like this is by using a pulley attached to your desk.
goldmember describes it well in his log (2nd page)
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20362
This question is for Dash. I know a great deal of people measure BP but I'm interested in knowing how much you gained in erect, non-bone pressed length. Do people measure BP for psychological reasons? Not sure if it serves any other purpose.
a dashdeming did u do streches for a couple of months befor u statted the wights ohh and how did u make ur weight hanger is there any supplies i could buy to make this if possible and when u startend out or even now do u experence coldness or numing when weight hanging- thanks dude
pnoewbe
09-18-06, 02:36 AM
"coldness"
When cold to the touch, my glans temp only reads four degrees below starting temp, according to a digital thermometer infrared gun. Cold skin is a useless indicator.
The two most important observations other than PAIN, might be large white areas on glans, which you check after hanger removal for fluid buildup i.e. blister. And, whether that scary purple or "blue" glans turns to normal pink or flesh color in a few seconds or less after removing hanger device, or not.
pnoewbe
09-18-06, 02:45 AM
I hang ots using a strap loop that works like two straps, one either side of neck.
For some number of pounds, it doesn't matter how many pounds are hanging. It's all the same because the weight just locks the strap to the shoulder, and then I vary the tension to what feels right by moving my back and flexing my shoulders against the hanger resistance.
With 15.5 pounds and ots, so, fulcrum, btc hanging I finally saw a tiny gain on flaccid(only) length of a quarter of an inch per week. Now at 16 pounds and half an inch stretched flaccid gain. I use a desk pulley for so.
During several months of manual stretching and ads I saw only a flaccid non-stretched gain, part of the time, but that was nice.
I've had the shaft skin stretch over the glans, but if I adjust my bibhanger right that won't happen. It goes away. But I haven't hung 40 pounds for hours!
I went from ten to fifteen pounds by adding one pound after three or four days. From fifteen to sixteen I have added half a pound after each three or four days. I plan to stick to that, add a half pound every three or four days.
I think a simple sock type of head-wrap tube or "hwt", doubled, is enough all night splint or ans, all day splint or ads, to resist healing away the gains from hanging.
The BTC Killer
10-06-06, 05:13 PM
have you guys tried a swim cap?
Once when I was 11 at a pool they made me wear one.
Pandora
10-06-06, 05:46 PM
Once when I was 11 at a pool they made me wear one.
Hahahah LMFAO did you get a Verruca sock to go with that lol
Pandora
10-06-06, 05:55 PM
The girls totally digged me in my gear lol
blackice
10-06-06, 08:41 PM
drownd indem titties :P :P
Pandora
10-07-06, 10:49 AM
lol :D :P
extreme
11-09-06, 08:39 PM
I also subscribe to the idea that heavier is better. I just do not have the time to use lighter weight. I have actually gotton up to 90 lbs. for 2 minutes. But my work out consists of 40-50 lbs. for 10 minutes 2x per day. I am getting good results.
Pandora
11-09-06, 08:51 PM
I also subscribe to the idea that heavier is better. I just do not have the time to use lighter weight. I have actually gotton up to 90 lbs. for 2 minutes. But my work out consists of 40-50 lbs. for 10 minutes 2x per day. I am getting good results.
What hanger are you using,what angle are you hanging.
extreme
11-09-06, 09:03 PM
I am using a modified grip hanger. I hang straight down and out (by bending at the torso)
Dashdeming
11-10-06, 08:04 PM
I also subscribe to the idea that heavier is better. I just do not have the time to use lighter weight. I have actually gotton up to 90 lbs. for 2 minutes. But my work out consists of 40-50 lbs. for 10 minutes 2x per day. I am getting good results.
Holy shit that is some serious conditioning you have done there brother! You must be really consistent with your hanging frequency too. What is your gains?
extreme
11-22-06, 09:36 PM
I am getting good results with an average hang weight of 50 lbs. 2x per day for 10-15 minutes
once or twice a week I go up to 100 lbs. Be very careful though this is serious weight and it has taken me a long time to get up to this weight. Most noticeable are my girth gains. I am now over 8 inches in girth and about the same in length.
Good luck and keep hanging!!!
extreme
11-22-06, 09:42 PM
Sorry guys here is another picture. Just learning how to attach photo's.
Dashdeming
11-22-06, 11:19 PM
Sorry guys here is another picture. Just learning how to attach photo's.
Massive looking unit you have there my man!rofl :O
Pandora
11-23-06, 12:15 PM
Looks :cool: can we see your hanger.
GOMER_PYLE
12-05-06, 06:33 PM
I also subscribe to the idea that heavier is better. I just do not have the time to use lighter weight. I have actually gotton up to 90 lbs. for 2 minutes. But my work out consists of 40-50 lbs. for 10 minutes 2x per day. I am getting good results.
Holy fuckin' shit man!! What do you do, wrap at the base and attach the hanger at the base to achieve that? :O :O :O I've been hanging for 1.5 years now and I thought I had it down until I read this. 25 pounds is uncomfortable to me, I can't imagine how 40-50 would feel.
goldmember
12-05-06, 09:48 PM
Sorry guys here is another picture. Just learning how to attach photo's.
I wouldn't have believed you were it not for this photo.
So you use "The Grip" hanger (vacuum) or did I read that wrong?
GOMER_PYLE
12-09-06, 07:58 PM
Wrapping further down the shaft and attaching the hanger further down toward the base helps if you're using heavier weights. I know its not 40-50 pounds but I have been able to comfortably hang 20-25 pounds for 2.5-3 hours per day for the past week or so. I'm currently using a Bib Starter without the gel padding. I'm getting fatigue after about 45 minutes so I think I'm doing okay with it.
Vaseline_Knight
12-14-06, 12:05 PM
that looks like an over pumped dick if you ask me. or is it because you're using a vacuum hanger?
Either way, 40-50 lbs is insane, let alone 100 lbs.
I dont see how hanging (however heavy) could have contributed to girth gains. ?:( Base girth, perhaps, but overall girth should 'technically' be unaffected, unless you're talking about the fluid build up cause by the vacuum hanger.
Pandora
12-14-06, 01:27 PM
I get the impression that extreme is using a vice hanger and not a vacuum hanger.
I would be interested to see what extreme is hanging with.
floridabob
12-14-06, 03:30 PM
that looks like an over pumped dick if you ask me. or is it because you're using a vacuum hanger?
As soon as I seen it I thought it was pumped also...
Please let us see your hanger with weight applied.
Thanks
Dashdeming
12-14-06, 09:16 PM
Wrapping further down the shaft and attaching the hanger further down toward the base helps if you're using heavier weights. I know its not 40-50 pounds but I have been able to comfortably hang 20-25 pounds for 2.5-3 hours per day for the past week or so. I'm currently using a Bib Starter without the gel padding. I'm getting fatigue after about 45 minutes so I think I'm doing okay with it.
Wrapping and placing a clamp closer to the bottom of the penis can result in mostly lig stretch gains and less from the tunica. You see, grabbing nearer to the base exposes less of the penile shaft to the tension of the stretch. Therefore, if you have a low "LOT" (look it up with the search feature) then base stretching is much less useful and stretching from closer to the head of the penis is much more useful. If you have a higher "LOT" then you can get some gains through lig stretching from closer to the base placement. Dig?
Vaseline_Knight
12-14-06, 11:39 PM
As soon as I seen it I thought it was pumped also...
Please let us see your hanger with weight applied.
Thanks
Seconded
extreme
01-05-07, 07:39 PM
Been out of town, and to answer some questions:
I am using a modified grip hanger and have made a leather holster for the vacuum tube. The holster provides the much need additional support with the heavy weight; it has 2 belt loops and a strap, which I tighten around the shaft of my penis. The suction from the tube and this additional strap allows me to hang heavy weights. Unfortunately not without occasional problems which I am experiencing now (skin blisters from all the pressure) when they heal I will demonstrate how this device works.
Dashdeming
01-05-07, 08:04 PM
Been out of town, and to answer some questions:
I am using a modified grip hanger and have made a leather holster for the vacuum tube. The holster provides the much need additional support with the heavy weight; it has 2 belt loops and a strap, which I tighten around the shaft of my penis. The suction from the tube and this additional strap allows me to hang heavy weights. Unfortunately not without occasional problems which I am experiencing now (skin blisters from all the pressure) when they heal I will demonstrate how this device works.
I am anxious to see this too. I tried the Grip device years ago and just could not get it to work foe me. If the vac hanger would allow HEAVY WEIGHTS like DASH does it and still allow circulation and no blisters I will sign on and give it a try. My ultimate dream would be to hang 40 pounds for 60 minutes straight and then break and do it again!rofl
wannaBbig
02-04-07, 12:18 PM
This makes sense to hang heavier and gain more. Let's say you are at 15lbs hanging. You add one lb. Are you really goanna gain anything from that one lb over the 15? I wouldn't think so. I think you would have to jump it up to 5 extra lbs to actually get any new gain. No pain no gain. Has anyone got quick gains from a 1lb increasement? ---I think you could get better gains from atleast 3 lbs increasment to 5lbs quicker than just 1 lb. Any thoughts on this no pain no gain rule?I think when you use just 1lb increasments it's like body building. It will take longer times to achieve because your muscles are not being worked and are building to hold your stretch back.Does this make sense.
pnoewbe
02-19-07, 12:23 AM
The expression "no pain no gain" was a myth in sports training about thirty years ago. It would be universally scorned now.
What hangers look for is mild discomfort and an actual feeling that structure is stretching. Then you get to the point that the weight is not doing anything, after some time, days probably. Then you go up on weight. The question is how much. If I add half a pound, and start feeling that mild discomfort and structure giving way again, why would I skip ahead five pounds? Or, if a first set at a higher weight causes a condition where half the weight will work on second and third sets, that's great.
pnoewbe
02-19-07, 12:24 AM
So you learn the feeling.
FatherRuffian
02-19-07, 06:52 AM
Please post some pics of this modified hanger bro, I have the same aspirations as Dash and would be very interested to see this - nice unit btw, very inspirational!
jqsderrida
03-19-07, 02:08 PM
Any word from those hangers out there still using this technique?
10inchadvantage
03-19-07, 02:48 PM
I am anxious to see this too. I tried the Grip device years ago and just could not get it to work foe me. If the vac hanger would allow HEAVY WEIGHTS like DASH does it and still allow circulation and no blisters I will sign on and give it a try. My ultimate dream would be to hang 40 pounds for 60 minutes straight and then break and do it again!rofl
Use electrical tape. Works wonders. It's hard to get the right amount though, but you should be able to hang heavy weights a good 30 minutes. I don't know about 40 lbs though, jeez man. I'd imagine you'd need so much tape that you couldn't ever hope to hang over 30 mins at a time. I'm at 16 1/4 and I can still go up to an hour.
RoninTT
03-20-07, 05:44 AM
Use electrical tape. Works wonders. It's hard to get the right amount though, but you should be able to hang heavy weights a good 30 minutes. I don't know about 40 lbs though, jeez man. I'd imagine you'd need so much tape that you couldn't ever hope to hang over 30 mins at a time. I'm at 16 1/4 and I can still go up to an hour.
What do you mean when you say use electrical tape?
10inchadvantage
03-20-07, 10:09 AM
What do you mean when you say use electrical tape?
Wrap it around the bottom of the cylinder and around the sheath on the outside.
RoninTT
03-27-07, 05:01 AM
Wrap it around the bottom of the cylinder and around the sheath on the outside.
Thanks for the tip it really helps, but I have had to add another sheath to really be able to take the bigger pounds.
Now a question for Dash. When you only hang for the 20 mins do you feel some fatigue after that time and during the day?
Dashdeming
03-27-07, 09:46 PM
Thanks for the tip it really helps, but I have had to add another sheath to really be able to take the bigger pounds.
Now a question for Dash. When you only hang for the 20 mins do you feel some fatigue after that time and during the day?
Hi Ron,
Yes, I have always felt fatigue although the fatigue tends to lessen over time. When this happends, take a deconditioning break! - Dash
RoninTT
03-28-07, 04:03 AM
Hi Ron,
Yes, I have always felt fatigue although the fatigue tends to lessen over time. When this happends, take a deconditioning break! - Dash
Cool I'll keep this in mind. Have you taken deconditioning breaks in your PE routine?
Dashdeming
03-28-07, 10:58 PM
Cool I'll keep this in mind. Have you taken deconditioning breaks in your PE routine?
I sure have. I do this regularly and, in fact, I am just coming off of a long break. I will get back on the hang in about 3 weeks and will go back on about a 6 month hanging spree. I will add 1/2 of an inch or maybe a little more as long as I stick to it!
RoninTT
03-29-07, 03:57 AM
I sure have. I do this regularly and, in fact, I am just coming off of a long break. I will get back on the hang in about 3 weeks and will go back on about a 6 month hanging spree. I will add 1/2 of an inch or maybe a little more as long as I stick to it!
Sounds good.. well I don't think i'm ready for a break just yet, what I really need is a more comfortable hanger so I can hang more pounds without discomfort.
goldmember
03-29-07, 03:07 PM
Sounds good.. well I don't think i'm ready for a break just yet, what I really need is a more comfortable hanger so I can hang more pounds without discomfort.
Do you own a Vacu-Hanger?
RoninTT
03-29-07, 03:13 PM
Do you own a Vacu-Hanger?
Kind of a vacu-hanger... it's the vacuum-head to the vac-extender from auto-extender it's not really for big pounds... so maybe I'll just have to buy a better hanger.
extreme
05-01-07, 12:10 AM
I am attaching a picture of myself hanging 50 lbs. with my modified hanger. I have been out of the country and could not hang for over 2 months. I lost a tremendous amount of tolerance and I am back to a max of 50 lbs.
My previous max was almost 100 lbs. for a very brief period (1-2 minutes). My standard workout weight is 40-50 lbs. for 10-15 minutes 2x per day. After my night session I pull my penis as hard as possible and tuck it back around my leg and go to sleep. This keeps it in a semi stretch for as long as possible before I fall asleep and change positions. At my max I was going over 90 lbs. 1x per week for 1-2 minutes. I saw good results using this routine. However, I don't recommend it to anyone!
I think I was given a much higher tolerance to pain and capable of stretching much further than the average joe. I have had many set backs and injuries working up to this weight.
Good luck and keep stretching with caution!!!!
jqsderrida
05-01-07, 12:27 AM
holy shit
Moony"B"Finch
05-01-07, 12:56 AM
That is terrifying, and awesome. The really crazy thing is that you said you used to hang 100 pounds! I'm just curious, have your erections been affected at all?
10inchadvantage
05-01-07, 01:03 AM
Wow fuck the horses. How big is your dick dude? It looks like 11" stretched! That's CRAZY weight. How have gains been lately?
extreme
05-01-07, 01:28 AM
Well when I said I have hung up to 100 lbs. before it was only for 2 minutes max. My body could not take it and the apparatus would not stay on. I had to use too much pressure to keep it from slipping and that is when the injuries happen. The pressure, which is amplified by the pull, causes blisters and in a few cases deep ones that took along time to heal. I have been someone who pushes the limits in everything I do. But, with healing time also comes time off and this sets me back. I will probably not go higher than 70 lbs. ever again. That seems to be the max. I can handle before getting into trouble.
I can stretch out to about 10.5" and have no problems with erections. I use emu oil daily to condition my skin. It works great as a cell regenerator and heals the minor tears associated with hanging at this type of weight. I also use a heat pad before and after hanging. I jelque, pump, and use L- Arginine and Ginkgo to help keep the flowing well. This has made for a healthy dick that salutes every morning!
I have a few other techniques that I will post when I have more time.
It is all possible keep going slow and steady. As long as you feel a pull your doing it right.
jqsderrida
05-01-07, 04:51 AM
extreme,
A tad curious... do you purchase your emu oil at a nutrition store or must you order online (I would suppose that if you live in a metropolitan area there are chain stores which would carry the product etc.)? Also, you state that you take l-arginine and ginseng, do you take these separately or is there a daily multivitamin which will provide you with both, in one capsule?
Additionally, and not to be overly forward, what do you do with this dick? I mean, do women (or whomever, for that matter) allow you to put it to its proper use?
One last question (I keep coming up with more it seems), how long have you been hanging? -- and, and... what were your starting stats?
Best,
jqsderrida
05-13-07, 12:38 AM
Im currently hanging 16 pounds/set and am planning to move to 20 shortly. Am I the only hanger still active at MoS? Come on everyone, share what you're doing!
I have only been hanging for about 3 weeks now and I love hanging. But my problem is I cant find the right amount of time to hang. So I was wondering if I can try this... I know its not recommended for begginers(honestly I know) but I would still like to give it a shot. I usually hang 5lbs for 20min sessions at about 3 sessions. Maybe I could move it up to say 10lbs for 10min sessions at 2 sessions.
10inchadvantage
05-13-07, 12:06 PM
I haven't hung real weight in a while. I've been using my leg strap with my chamber tied to it. I'd say when I'm sitting studying I'm getting about 5 lbs of tension. I'll do this for at least 4 hours a day. When I walk around with it I'm getting about 3 lbs of SD tension. I think this is going to be my "ADS" set up for a while because I need to change up my routine. Also, I'm doing bundled hanging when doing this.
jqsderrida
05-14-07, 02:50 PM
I haven't hung real weight in a while. I've been using my leg strap with my chamber tied to it. I'd say when I'm sitting studying I'm getting about 5 lbs of tension. I'll do this for at least 4 hours a day. When I walk around with it I'm getting about 3 lbs of SD tension. I think this is going to be my "ADS" set up for a while because I need to change up my routine. Also, I'm doing bundled hanging when doing this.
You're getting back to 'real' weight this summer are you not?
10inchadvantage
05-14-07, 06:37 PM
You're getting back to 'real' weight this summer are you not?
Planning on it.
Dashdeming
05-30-07, 08:50 PM
Break is over and I am back in business and hanging 2 times per day and with two 20 minute sessions each time for a total of 1 hour 20 minutes per day with the heavy weights.
I pose a question and follow it with answers: How do you really know that you are hanging effectively using Hard Core Hanging?
The answer: Your penis gives you immediate feedback.
1) Are you putting tension on the lig or the tunica or both? With the heavy weight pulling on your penis reach down and feel how much tension is on the tunica and the ligs. Check the tension of each lig to see that you are pulling even if lig stretch is your goal. Change angles of hang and observe how it changes the actual tension of the tunica and ligs. If you have a high LOT number then you could benefit from lower angled hanging and you should have more tension on the ligs than the tunica. Are you concerned that your skin is the only thing taking the tension? Reach down and feel and make sure the tension is hitting your intended target. Make hanger placement changes and hang angle changes until you get the tension where you want it. Track your results and adjust smartly to get the goals you want.
In a nut shell, feel for instant feedback and do not wait for time to simply pass to see if you did or did not get results. Get the tension where you want it and adjust to keep it there and then adjust the weight and time to progressively increase. Hang safe guys!
jqsderrida
07-03-07, 05:44 PM
SWM, I was just considering your recent remark about being interested in starting hanging again but possessing too little time to do it. Why not try out this experimental routine (as an experiment), and see if it does anything for you?
gerrykjohnsons
07-03-07, 05:57 PM
... I'd say when I'm sitting studying I'm getting about 5 lbs of tension. I'll do this for at least 4 hours a day...
When I hung, 5 lbs at 4 hours a day gave me intense fatigue. I suggest if you're not getting intense fatigue you're either: 1) not getting 5lbs continuous; or 2) way too conditioned and need a decon break.
My $.02
10inchadvantage
07-03-07, 06:14 PM
When I hung, 5 lbs at 4 hours a day gave me intense fatigue. I suggest if you're not getting intense fatigue you're either: 1) not getting 5lbs continuous; or 2) way too conditioned and need a decon break.
My $.02
Well, I was EXTREMELY fatigued. Never bothered to stop until the members around here slapped some sense into me. I had to pay for my mistakes, but now I'm slowly repairing and healing.
goldmember
07-04-07, 01:01 PM
I also think that continuos tension is very beneficial, ie. one set of 10 pounds for one hour is better than two thirty-minute sets at the same weight.
Gerry, are you obstinate about 5 pounds, or was that just an arbitrary guess at the minimal weight needed to cause tissue deformation?
When I hung, 5 lbs at 4 hours a day gave me intense fatigue. I suggest if you're not getting intense fatigue you're either: 1) not getting 5lbs continuous; or 2) way too conditioned and need a decon break.
My $.02
pnoewbe
07-08-07, 02:13 PM
"Let's say you are at 15lbs hanging. You add one lb. Are you really goanna gain anything from that one lb over the 15? I wouldn't think so. I think you would have to jump it up to 5 extra lbs to actually get any new gain. No pain no gain. Has anyone got quick gains from a 1lb increasement?"
"No pain no gain" is a universally discredited and deprecated model in the exercise and training world, but in pe I do add weight after I get comfortable. When I get comfortable, I do some SD and BTC to finish at that weight, then add half a pound the next session.
I add half a pound. That causes exhaustion and mild but good stretching pain, and not just the skin either. At 25 pounds now, I have been seeing about a 1/8" stretch in fl per half a pound weight increase, but that slips back and forth quite a bit. It takes time to see that in el.
It is much easier just to think about a different woman see an instant quarter of an inch el gain, or another in particular for an instant quarter of an inch glans circumference gain. But that's only for a given real fl/el/girth status. If you can establish .98:1 harmonic resonance between a woman's ass shape and your dickhead shape, that's worth an instant quarter of an inch glans circ gain due to corresponding dickhead volume gain. But then it's back to reality.
pnoewbe
07-14-07, 06:33 PM
Caveat: I'm not making rapid gains by adding half a pound. I do feel very fatigued again, though.
ive been bending over a bar stool while hanging 15 pounds , i can definatley feel a differnent stretch , opposed to straight down
thickone1740
02-01-08, 06:49 PM
I had done some pumping in the past and occasionally when I want a huge thick dick for sex with my wife (since 2001) and occasionally jelqed. But I have the bib hanger and I started CONSISTENTLY hanging 13 days ago. I started with 5lbs, but now just recently moved up to 18.5 lbs. Is this too much too fast. Some people seem to think it is BUT it feels good and I already am hanging better flaccid now. I have taken 2 days off within that 13 day period. I also jelq 250-500 strokes/day and pump a little too.
I also don't have much time to hang each day (about 20min) so I am subscribing to your heavy weights/less time strategy too.
Also, I would like to hang very light (say 1 lb weights all day stealth like under my scrubs at work (i am a nurse). Have you heard of anything like this before and if so, how is it done?
Jimbo
Is this too much too fast.
yes this is too fast... you are taking some risks moving up so quickly. even if you can only do one 20 minute set i highly recommend giving your penis time to adapt and gain at lower weights before you move up so high.
thickone1740
02-03-08, 09:30 PM
Wow, great gains in 9 mos. (1 1/2 inches of BPSFL). I have a question: What does BPSFL stand for? I know that BPEL stands for Bone Pressed Erect Length. What does BPSFL stand for?? I read your routine and you do 6 20min. sets/day + clamping 2-4 12 min. sets. That comes out to about 2 1/2- 3 hrs/day of PE. I don't have that much time. This is why I only do 1 20min. hanging set/day. This is why I use heavy weights (at least heavy for a new hanger like myself), to compensate for my lack of time.
How many pounds do you hang with?
What is the clamping technique? Where do you get the clamps to do the clamping technique?
Jimbo
Current stats
BPEL 7 1/8 inches
EG 5 1/2 inches
Goal 9-10 inches BPEL
I also would like to hang flaccid for 6 inches. RIght now I am only about 4in flaccid.
thickone1740
02-03-08, 09:33 PM
I read your post about using a strap to keep tension on your penis throughout the day (4hrs) and that you feel it is about 5lbs. I would like to do this too as I feel the constant tension would really help my gains. How do you do it? What devise do you use?
Jimbo
atlyroc
02-03-08, 10:04 PM
hey guy just got my big hanger original. i was wondering if my feeling from hanging are normal. i started with 5lbs at 4 20 min sessions. it tough to get through cause of the head pressure and skin pinching. if gettin my dick used to the pressire is what i have to do then ok. some say position bib higher but still a lil head pressure. i do 3 manual sessions a day with power assist and bundled blasters. but i wanna hang alot in conjuction with manuals. please let me know what i should feel when hanging. and will it go away with time.
10inchadvantage
02-03-08, 10:10 PM
hey guy just got my big hanger original. i was wondering if my feeling from hanging are normal. i started with 5lbs at 4 20 min sessions. it tough to get through cause of the head pressure and skin pinching. if gettin my dick used to the pressire is what i have to do then ok. some say position bib higher but still a lil head pressure. i do 3 manual sessions a day with power assist and bundled blasters. but i wanna hang alot in conjuction with manuals. please let me know what i should feel when hanging. and will it go away with time.
I'd recommend sticking with 2.5 lbs for at least two weeks, readjusting your hanger after each set. After playing with all sorts of tweaks, you should get a better idea on which setup will be the most comfortable for you. A little bit of time learning the ins and outs will get you further.
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TheStick
02-07-08, 06:23 PM
Where can I find some of that stretchy rubber tubing used for vac hanger sleeves?
I am interested in hannging weights for length gain. But will it make my penis thinner? Should I do girth exercises also>
stillwantmore2
03-18-08, 10:40 AM
Where can I find some of that stretchy rubber tubing used for vac hanger sleeves?
You can order some from: http://www.mynewsize.com/gallery1.htm
stillwantmore2
03-18-08, 10:42 AM
I am interested in hannging weights for length gain. But will it make my penis thinner? Should I do girth exercises also>
No, very big but very wrong misconception about hanging weights. It's no different than manual stretching....only that you can maintain the stretch much longer especially now that we have products like Max Vac. You can how hang/stretch for HOURS at a time, comfortably.
chinchillables
06-04-08, 04:30 PM
I kinda wanna try it, but I'll neeed something light as hell and work up to a pound over 2 years, lol. This ish is scaaaaaarrrryyy.
kkevinj
07-11-08, 01:07 AM
Did i read that right?? haha
Hi,Guys... Maybe I Missed from this topic but i can't find this information about warming up before hanging , right ? Or What Should we do before hanging .
You should definitely do some type of warmup before hanging. You could take a warm shower or bath, use a heating pad or rice sock, do some light jelqing, hang a light set, whatever you prefer.
dickfordays
09-14-09, 08:38 PM
I know this thread is old, has anyone else had success with this type of hanging routine? If so, what did your progression look like (starting weight, when you increased weight, angles, etc.). Any info. would be helpful, thanks guys.
DforD
PenisMagee
11-05-09, 09:21 PM
Hello Dashdeming,
Your heavy hanging results sound impressive, congratulations. I wanted to ask you, before you started doing the heavy 1 set per day workouts, did you take the traditional approach that Bib recommends at first? Slowly working up in weights and sets until you are doing about 6 sets per day? Just curious if you had and then maybe got frustrated and decided to go your own way to cut down on time?
I'm kind of in a dilemma, it seems no matter what I do, I always have this reoccuring problem with my skin near the base of my penis acting up, but it usually seems okay the first 1 or 2 sets, but after that it gets progressivly worse throughout the night. I use a lot of vaseline throughout the night and next day, which helps a ton in healing, but once I go to hang again the next night I end up aggraviting it again. It's not horrible right now, but it never really goes away.
Anyway, I'm working 5 sets right now, and only at 8.5 pounds BTC, working on skin stretch. Been hanging since 9/15/09. I started thinking, well maybe if I just hang 1 or 2sets a night this should help any skin issues. And then I'll just basically bump 1 pound per week slowly building to some heavy hanging. I would throw in jelqing too, post-hang like you have done since it has worked well for you.
I'm just a little afraid of abandoning Bib's approach too early since it's worked so well for a lot of folks, but I think if I didn't do so many sets my skin wouldn't be continually in rough shape. And I don't really want to devote about 3 hours a night to PE, that is a lot of time! I figure doing your routine could really benefit me not only in time, but most importantly gains, and in with my sensitive skin (too many sets seem to keep it sore).
Thanks for taking the time to look at this if you get a chance,
PM
stretcharmstrng
11-06-09, 08:40 AM
I know this thread is old, has anyone else had success with this type of hanging routine? If so, what did your progression look like (starting weight, when you increased weight, angles, etc.). Any info. would be helpful, thanks guys.
DforD
hey dickfordays, i am not Dash, but i am currently hanging as my main PE form, right now 25lbs.@ 1.5 hours daily. this is my 2nd 'phase' of hanging, which i have come back to as my gains have grinded to a halt with everything else i was doin, plus fuckin up my wrists with all the pulling/straining.
i have had success my first round of hanging this last january, it was for a month straight every day 1.5 hours and the last week i got up to 23lbs. BTC, at which point i was getting alot of skin stretch, which was too uncomfortable to continue.
at this point i went back to manual excercise for the next five months with new found zeal and strength, as well as less fear of injury after putting my penis through what i just did with hanging. i gained almost weekly bpfsl, gradually slowing in gaining until it stopped and now here i am hanging again, at a higher weight comfortably.
i should add, i originally used a Bib starter, but am currently using a Bib ORIGINAL, and i think the size difference of the hangers definitely contributes to the comfort level at higher weights, the Original handling heavier weoght more comfortably.
SO! yes, i can personally attest that hanging definitely works if done correctly, safely and INTELLIGENTLY. cheers!;)
Dashdeming
11-07-09, 06:04 PM
Thanks for the props magee and also for stretch's reply to you. I have to say that I did not start with any method of any other person and pretty much went on my own in developing my hardcore hanging technique. The reason I did not follow a method such as BIB's was that I did not have the time or privacy as a professional musician. I chose to increase the weight at a very gradual pace and within the short privacy period that I have in my days. This worked for me but I would not recommend anyone jump into my method. I actually would recommend the much more conservative and safe BIB methods if you have the time. If you don't have the time then you should develop something that safely works for you such as I did.
These days I tend to have more time back at the ranch for basically half of each year and can now get in 3 or 4 sessions of 20 minutes in length. I use the fulcrum method. The other half of the year I tend toward hardcore hanging. My dick is slowly getting bigger little by little. Good luck and be safe!
Hello Dashdeming,
Your heavy hanging results sound impressive, congratulations. I wanted to ask you, before you started doing the heavy 1 set per day workouts, did you take the traditional approach that Bib recommends at first? Slowly working up in weights and sets until you are doing about 6 sets per day? Just curious if you had and then maybe got frustrated and decided to go your own way to cut down on time?
I'm kind of in a dilemma, it seems no matter what I do, I always have this reoccuring problem with my skin near the base of my penis acting up, but it usually seems okay the first 1 or 2 sets, but after that it gets progressivly worse throughout the night. I use a lot of vaseline throughout the night and next day, which helps a ton in healing, but once I go to hang again the next night I end up aggraviting it again. It's not horrible right now, but it never really goes away.
Anyway, I'm working 5 sets right now, and only at 8.5 pounds BTC, working on skin stretch. Been hanging since 9/15/09. I started thinking, well maybe if I just hang 1 or 2sets a night this should help any skin issues. And then I'll just basically bump 1 pound per week slowly building to some heavy hanging. I would throw in jelqing too, post-hang like you have done since it has worked well for you.
I'm just a little afraid of abandoning Bib's approach too early since it's worked so well for a lot of folks, but I think if I didn't do so many sets my skin wouldn't be continually in rough shape. And I don't really want to devote about 3 hours a night to PE, that is a lot of time! I figure doing your routine could really benefit me not only in time, but most importantly gains, and in with my sensitive skin (too many sets seem to keep it sore).
Thanks for taking the time to look at this if you get a chance,
PM
pnoewbe
11-07-09, 11:59 PM
"Heavy weight and less time sort of defeats the purpose of hanging no?"
Not unless hanging is your purpose. Most of us have another goal i.e. bigger dicks.
pnoewbe
11-08-09, 12:05 AM
I started hanging 8 pounds and went up a half pound every sixth hanging day.
Eventually I got to 38 pounds. The last few pounds I had conditioning to jump a pound at a time.
Currently I am doing only manual stretching. That seemed to unlock some benefits of hanging. I plateaued on hanging, went to manual, saw 1/16" gains about every week. Now I may be plateauing on manual or maybe just running out of leveraged positions.
I tried standing on my dick but it twinged something up in my ab wall like I could give myself a hernea. Oops. Maybe it was that barbell squat force too, likely more than 38 pounds! Hanging will get us ready for just about anything though.
stretcharmstrng
11-08-09, 12:29 PM
Currently I am doing only manual stretching. That seemed to unlock some benefits of hanging. I plateaued on hanging, went to manual, saw 1/16" gains about every week. Now I may be plateauing on manual or maybe just running out of leveraged positions.
pnoewbe, your siituation sounds incredibly similar to mine. i got into hanging then switched to manual work after a month or two, and gained almost weekly. currently, i stopped gaining with manual work and switched back to hanging with a little more weight and knowledge.
you and i might be on to something with these hanging/ manual PE 'cycles'? i totally agree about the hanging 'loosening' up the ligs for manual work, and manual work unlocking the benefits of hanging. what do you think? cheers!
PenisMagee
11-10-09, 07:06 PM
Thanks for the feedback Dash, greatly appreciated.
;)
JonnyBlaze
11-15-09, 12:40 AM
You can order some from: http://www.mynewsize.com/gallery1.htm
Dash,
The paypal merchant account for the online store is suspended. Do you know any other way to purchase the MVII? No one answers the number listed on the site. Do you have any recommendations for someone looking for a product to increase results in conjunction with using the Bib hanger? Not trying to hijack the thread, but it seems mostly dead.
thanks
JonnyBlaze
11-15-09, 12:44 AM
Sorry Dash,
I was thinking that you posted that link. It was obviously stillwantmore2. Anyone know how to purchase the MVII or have recommendations? Stillwantmore2?
kingsnake
11-18-09, 09:03 PM
Hey guys I know this is off topic but what ever happen to Extreme. I remember he used to post on Dash's thread and he said he was hanging 100lbs in his workouts and only hung 2 sets a day for 10 minutes at a time. I remember it was discovered that his 100 lbs hanging pic was photoshopped and that was the last we heard from him. Was he banned or did he just leave once he saw that we discovered his photoshopped pic. The reason why I ask this is because he had a very huge and thick flaccid in his hanging pics and I was wondering if he ever stated what his erect size was.
Threak-X
11-18-09, 10:56 PM
Hey guys I know this is off topic but what ever happen to Extreme. I remember he used to post on Dash's thread and he said he was hanging 100lbs in his workouts and only hung 2 sets a day for 10 minutes at a time. I remember it was discovered that his 100 lbs hanging pic was photoshopped and that was the last we heard from him. Was he banned or did he just leave once he saw that we discovered his photoshopped pic. The reason why I ask this is because he had a very huge and thick flaccid in his hanging pics and I was wondering if he ever stated what his erect size was.He's been gone for a year now. Never knew about his photos being photo-shopped.
MoreGains123
11-20-09, 04:10 AM
Was it photoshopped? I'm remembering something about trick photography by hiding the fact the weight wasn't off the ground.
dickfordays
11-20-09, 08:06 PM
Stretcharmstrong,
Thanks for the input, I've taken a break from hanging for a couple weeks, I got some pretty bad bruising that seemed to sneek up on me. It was on the underside on my shaft and I didn't notice it immediately, but I think it came from one or two sets. I must have had the hanger attached wrong for those sets. It's all cleared up now and I plan to start again in the next couple days.
I also noticed my BPFSL increasing before my injury, so I'm sold that it will work for me eventually. I have had lots of trouble trying to figure out how to prevent the shaft from rotating because my unit is much wider than it is tall (if that makes sense). The two chambers seem to rotate and pop one on top of the other no matter what I do. Anyone have any suggestions?
stretcharmstrng
11-20-09, 09:40 PM
Stretcharmstrong,
Thanks for the input, I've taken a break from hanging for a couple weeks, I got some pretty bad bruising that seemed to sneek up on me. It was on the underside on my shaft and I didn't notice it immediately, but I think it came from one or two sets. I must have had the hanger attached wrong for those sets. It's all cleared up now and I plan to start again in the next couple days.
I also noticed my BPFSL increasing before my injury, so I'm sold that it will work for me eventually. I have had lots of trouble trying to figure out how to prevent the shaft from rotating because my unit is much wider than it is tall (if that makes sense). The two chambers seem to rotate and pop one on top of the other no matter what I do. Anyone have any suggestions?
how are your bottom hex nuts adjusted? how much wrap do you use? how close are the top teeth when you are hanging?
dickfordays
11-21-09, 05:51 PM
Stretcharmstrong,
I have the bottom hex nuts spaced about 3/4" apart, slightly towed out (front space slightly wider than the back). I played with the spacing a lot to find a width that allows the top teeth to mesh without me slipping out. I use two layers of wrap, sweatshirt material and theraband (green). The teeth are almost totally meshed when I have my max weight on.
I think the issue is that my corpus cavernosum chambers are much wider than they are deep. Therefore, my unit is wider than it is deep. This forces the chambers to slip one on top of the other when I tighten the hanger. I think if the BIB offered a more dramatic V-shape (or inverted V to be exact) when tightened, it would not be a problem.
I have experimented with tons of combinations of adjustments (positioning, towing, placement on the shaft, wrap combos, etc.) but have not been able to prevent the twisting because of the shape of my CC's.
I made a Length Master type device that grabs on the top and bottom (as opposed to the BIB which grabs on the sides) and there is no twisting what so ever. I'm sure the problem lies in the shape of my CC's, but I would love to find a way to successfully use my BIB. Thanks again for the help.
Dford
stretcharmstrng
11-21-09, 06:57 PM
okay. yeah i was gonna say a length master might be right up your alley if side clamping is giving you issues. you are using a starter or bib original? because the original is a bit bigger and deeper. how long have you been hanging? have you done manual stretching? what are your girth stats if you don't mind me asking? also, how much twisting is going on, and is it the whole hanger and penis twists or the penis twists inside the hanger before weight is even applied?
dickfordays
11-22-09, 06:32 AM
I am using the starter, I considered the original, but I don't want to spend the money and end up with the same issue. I have done a lot of manuals over the last year or so, but started hanging about 4 months ago. Prior to that, I was using manuals and the Static Stretcher for a while.
My girth is around 5.2" along the length of it. The amount of twisting vaires, but it usually starts when I tighten the hanger and gets worse as I apply weight. I can feel the CC's move as I tighten the hanger. The few times that I've been able to get the hanger even semi-tight without twisting, it always twists when I apply the weight (even very light weight).
Threak-X
11-22-09, 09:32 AM
Was it photoshopped? I'm remembering something about trick photography by hiding the fact the weight wasn't off the ground.I never understood the reason behind creating tricked (photo-shopped) photos to deceive others on your own penis-size. In essence, you're only fooling yourself. I use photoshop all the time, I could make mine 12-inches long... simply by folding it in half (LOL)
The rest of you guys, if you keep hanging yourself you'll eventually get hung.
z06vet2003
11-22-09, 03:12 PM
I been lurking on this site for quite a while. Finally signed up. Been hanging and pumping for over 5 years. In that Time I'ave gone from a BPEL of 6.25 to a BPEL of 7.50".. but my girth is a killer just as big as Lexington Steele at a pussy busting 7.25" at mid shaft. But my ultimate goal BPEL of 11"
Been reading on this heavy weight. My weight has been only 5 to 10 lbs. but after reading these nice BIG gains. I up the weights to 15 lbs and hang for up to an hour, I been working on 20 & 25 lbs but always less than 5 minutes. Been at it for over 2 months now, and I my BPFSL came up a 1/4" to 8.25".
The wife loves my size, and wants me as big and long as I can get. BUT no more girth. So I use THE GRIP XXX large chamber (not shown on web site)
My routine is this. I start out slow with 7 to 9 LBS. then in about 5 minutes I switch to the 15 hang for about 10 minutes and then without a rest put at least 7LBs back on.
I have not made any noticable gains in the past 2 months. But Should I grin and bare it and do the 20 minute set, or has anyone done less time but more sets and been just as productive.
stretcharmstrng
11-22-09, 10:09 PM
I am using the starter, I considered the original, but I don't want to spend the money and end up with the same issue. I have done a lot of manuals over the last year or so, but started hanging about 4 months ago. Prior to that, I was using manuals and the Static Stretcher for a while.
My girth is around 5.2" along the length of it. The amount of twisting vaires, but it usually starts when I tighten the hanger and gets worse as I apply weight. I can feel the CC's move as I tighten the hanger. The few times that I've been able to get the hanger even semi-tight without twisting, it always twists when I apply the weight (even very light weight).
ok. you might want to consider trying an original, the bigger dimensions might be just What you need. i know you said you don't want to spend the cash, maybe you can sell the starter on here? i know the original can handle upwards of 8" girth, so id say definitively worth a shot. =/ also, is the twisting painful? if it isn't, it might not be such an issue, and lastly, i've heard bib say on his forum 90° or less of twisting while the weight is hanging is ok as long as it is not painful.
dickfordays
11-23-09, 02:23 PM
Hey Stretch,
The twisting is not really painful, but it does put more stress on one side at the base than the other. Therefore, I try to alternate the direction in which it rotates. I might try the regular BIB, thanks for all the help.
I forgot to mention, the reason I had to take a break from hanging (other than the bruise) was because I developed a thrombosed lymphatic vessel from it. It was on the top of my shaft, which is another reason why I wanted to get the hanger to grasp on the sides properly, I don't want to develop another one of those.
Dford
kingsnake
11-23-09, 06:41 PM
Hey zO6VET2003. Your gains from 6.25 to 7.50 is impressive. And your midgirth being at 7.25 is insane. Shane Diesal's midgirth is also 7.25 inches. What was your starting mid girth before PE. So all of your gains have been from pumping and hanging. What was your routine back then that led to your gains. Especially in girth. Also what is your current routine you follow. Sorry for all the questions but I am impressed with your midshaft girth gains. Thanks in advanced.
z06vet2003
11-24-09, 06:20 AM
My routine was more like a quest, to find what will securely hold my shaft, not stretch just the skin, not get cold or numb and put the max weight for up to 3 hour session. Had 100's of blisters, but I finally found it. 1st I use the XXX large grip, with their black rubber hourglass sheath. THEN I place on myself just a NON LUBRICATED LATEX RUBBER. I buy them from THEY FIT and its their widest one they make. Once I have the condom on I cut a small hole in the end, small enough to piss out of. I make sure that both the grip chamber and the condom are completly free of lubrication. completly dry is best. Insert myself into the chamber and this this GRIPS like no other. I then fold the balance of the condom back over the grip for a 2 layer rubber seal. Since I'ave learn this I have been completly blister free and can hang (so far) 25+lbs for at least 20 minutes... Now that I can finally hang heavy wieghts for longer periods of time without blisters, getting numb or cold... maybe NOW I can get back to making that 11" length I want( or should I say the Wife wants.
kingsnake
11-24-09, 08:12 AM
Good stuff z06vet2003. Man I can't believe your wife wants 11 inches. She is defentley a size queen. If you too ever get devorced she will be ruined for life because the chances of her coming across another 11 incher is pretty slim.
Where did you get all of your materials to create your hanger?
z06vet2003
11-28-09, 11:24 PM
Sometime ago, I bought from "The Grip" a chamber that was not and has never been advertised by them. They normally list a selection of 4 different sizes. Small, med. Large and X Large. But they made a few that were XX Large. I have two of them. The inside Diameter of mine is 2.25", which fits men in their flaccid girth of 7.00" . My flaccid girth is 6.75". They have special sheaths (as they call them) that holds well over 40lbs. It is a vacuum chamber, that I have finally figured out how to hold on tight and not use a lot of VACUUM TO DO SO. I have measured the vacuum inside the chamber at or about 6 Hg. when hanging 20 lbs. Believe it or not I use a condom that is non-lubricated and it is my only addition. NO WRAPS, NO TAPE. I must buy condoms from "THEY FIT" and I buy the largest one they have. Even with those I can not just unroll the condom, I got to unroll it a little myself then stretch it over my shaft. Its really nice to have that kind of problem. The wife insist I gain more length.. lots of length, she says I look out of proportion. Although I am 7 1/2" in length. she shes with a dick as thick as mine it should be at least 11 inches long BPEL or 10 NBPEL. I told her that John Holmes was almost 10 inches long and almost had a 7 inch girth... Once she finally seen a porn of him she said now thats the size I need to be. So having support from the little woman is more than half the battle.
OK I answer your questions. I need to know is hanging hardcore heavy weights get the wife what she wants... ME TOO.. how much weight and for HOW much time a day... As long as I can produce 3 inches of more lenght in
2 or 3 years.... I'm up to 20lbs for 1/2 hour a session about twice a day.
kingsnake
11-29-09, 07:06 AM
Holy shit z06vet2003. That is just ridiculous that your flaccid girth is 6.75 inches. You flaccid girth is way bigger then my erect girth. Maybe I need to look back into pumping since you said that was what got you those amazing perminent girth gains. As far as hardcore hanging goes just take it slow. I think the main reason Dash did hardcore hanging was because he didn't have a lot of time to hang for several hours a day so he went the heavier weight less time route. If you have the time to sacrifice then you should go the medium weight more time route just to be safe about it. Hey z06VET2003. If you don't mind could you open up a picture thread in the pic section and post some measure pics of your length and girth. That would definently be very motivational to see.
z06vet2003
12-02-09, 06:49 AM
I see that Dash has been at it quite a while now. Since Oct 2002, now its SEVEN years later.. In about 2 years he reported a gain of over 2 1/2" WOW..
but 5 years has past since that time, according to Dash he continues to hang the heavy weights but less frequent... So just how big are you NOW as opposed to 7 years ago?
If I could gain 2 1/2" in 2 years that would put me at almost 11 inches long..
I,m doing the 1 hour worth of hanging, twice a day everyday, morning then after work. My weights vary from 7 lbs to 25LB. The bulk of my continuous hanging is around 1/2 hour with 15 lbs. I then hang the 25 lbs for 5 to 10 minutes. I noticed that my BPSL is now almost 8.75" right after hanging. then I check again before the next session I'm back to 8.50". I think I mentioned before that prior to the changes I made, I use to get blisters all the time, and would have to stop and heal. But Now for the very first time..no more blisters and no more stopping and healing.
Dash had mentioned that the 2 1/2" he gained was from 7 to 25lbs for 20 minute sets. Dash mentioned that at 15 months he went to 25lbs and another year went buy at the 25 lbs he had gained the 2 1/2" in total length gain..
My thoughts are this; if the vast majority of your gains were at 25lbs, why should I try even heavy weights and risk damage? believe me 25lbs is very stressful. about 10 minutes is about all I can take, but at 15lb I can do and hour.
for both DASH and Kingsnake
how big are you now? How much length have you gained from the time you started.
Dashdeming
12-02-09, 08:57 AM
I consider 25 pounds to be hardcore so you are doing it as far as I am concerned. Everyone should remember that they have their own needs and limits and each individual will find a unique level that is hardcore.
I have not been active at hanging for the full term as a vet. I actually took off a significant time during a period of my life where I traveled in a tour bus with other members of the band and I had no privacy at all. I have since arranged for travel where I have the bus to myself and can actually do some PE while underway.
I also started only maintenance hanging for a period and went for more girth via my dash raps. I am currently at just at 9" BPEL and just over 6" EG. I am now (because I hang a lot in a moving vehicle) using a fulcrum to hang and have reduced the weight to 16 pounds which is a lot with a fulcrum but easier to manage on the road. I am shooting for 10 X 6.5 as a goal but I expect it to take several more years to get there because gaining is not a linear thing. You actually gain much faster early in your PE career and then it slows as you go and takes a whole lot more dedication. Be careful guys!
- Dash
I see that Dash has been at it quite a while now. Since Oct 2002, now its SEVEN years later.. In about 2 years he reported a gain of over 2 1/2" WOW..
but 5 years has past since that time, according to Dash he continues to hang the heavy weights but less frequent... So just how big are you NOW as opposed to 7 years ago?
If I could gain 2 1/2" in 2 years that would put me at almost 11 inches long..
I,m doing the 1 hour worth of hanging, twice a day everyday, morning then after work. My weights vary from 7 lbs to 25LB. The bulk of my continuous hanging is around 1/2 hour with 15 lbs. I then hang the 25 lbs for 5 to 10 minutes. I noticed that my BPSL is now almost 8.75" right after hanging. then I check again before the next session I'm back to 8.50". I think I mentioned before that prior to the changes I made, I use to get blisters all the time, and would have to stop and heal. But Now for the very first time..no more blisters and no more stopping and healing.
Dash had mentioned that the 2 1/2" he gained was from 7 to 25lbs for 20 minute sets. Dash mentioned that at 15 months he went to 25lbs and another year went buy at the 25 lbs he had gained the 2 1/2" in total length gain..
My thoughts are this; if the vast majority of your gains were at 25lbs, why should I try even heavy weights and risk damage? believe me 25lbs is very stressful. about 10 minutes is about all I can take, but at 15lb I can do and hour.
for both DASH and Kingsnake
how big are you now? How much length have you gained from the time you started.
z06vet2003
12-03-09, 07:04 AM
Thank you for your quick responce Dash. Over the years I have spoke to several people that have reported the SAME thing. HEAVY WEIGHTS WORK !!!
I had lengthening surgery through a very well known doctor out of Beverly Hills. Since he was also a close college friend. I did some PR for him. Those that had the surgery and did the heavy weights gained several inches. in one case a Florida Man gained over 6 inches using Heavy weights (20lbs+) after surgery Its been a couple of years since I spoke to him, but he was up to 60lbs and was over 12 inches long. This gain is BACKED and documented by the doctor himself. For myself I stuck to the 5 to 10lbs Now that i decided to grin and bare it. For the past couple of months I too am going to 15 to 25lbs. Although stressful it appears to be working. I believe the key is heavy weights for at least a 1/2 hour EVERYDAY.. Although it does take dedication to do the daily routine, finding that 1/2 hour everyday has been very easy. The hard part is stressing the shit out of your dick everyday and hope I don't ripe it off in the process.. But I too was sort of stuck at a BPSL of 8 inches and I have been off and on since 1994. But now after just 2 months of dedication I'm now at 8.50"
kingsnake
12-03-09, 07:48 AM
Hey z06vet2003, what hanging angles do you use in your PE training. Also do you follow the LOT theory? What is your opinion on the LOT theory.
agent7x6
12-04-09, 01:36 PM
Thank you for your quick responce Dash. Over the years I have spoke to several people that have reported the SAME thing. HEAVY WEIGHTS WORK !!!
I had lengthening surgery through a very well known doctor out of Beverly Hills. Since he was also a close college friend. I did some PR for him. Those that had the surgery and did the heavy weights gained several inches. in one case a Florida Man gained over 6 inches using Heavy weights (20lbs+) after surgery Its been a couple of years since I spoke to him, but he was up to 60lbs and was over 12 inches long. This gain is BACKED and documented by the doctor himself.
I'm sure that I'm not the only member to be shocked by a 6 inch gain and a resulting length of more than 12 inches. Please post as much of the doctor's documentation of gains via hanging as possible. Even a link would be helpful.
Dash your hanging ideas along with a few others were really what helped me form my own theories and ultimately way to gain by hanging.
I have grown over 1.5 bpfsl hanging to date. I believe most people are held up by two things in hanging
1) beliefs about time under tension. my basic question is... on a frozen lake what is more likely to crack the ice. a 100 pound rock placed in the center for 5 minutes or a 50 pound rock placed for 20 minutes. the goal for me is always weight. why? I believe in the simple math that 40 pounds will pull out more penis than 10 pounds (in a time sensitive world that is - some poeple have unlimited amounts of time to train)
2) comfort / pain in wrong places...and most people do not know this is a limitation. yes ...take a vacuum hanger... most people cannot hang over 20 pounds on one why? pain and stress in the wrong places. I am hanging 5 minute sets with up to 40 pounds with the bib hardcore. night and day over the bib hanger...(max of 25 pounds) but had i never bought this hanger i would have never know.
So...experiment..wrap higher adn some of the nutsack if you need too...find a way to get the stress in the right spot. get an IR lamp and warmup before you hang...and keep heat when you do hang. now..pull that shit out my friends!!!
z06vet2003
12-04-09, 05:52 PM
Lots of questions to answer. I am NOT the doctor that can provide documentation. I can only say that I have personally spoke to both doctor and the Man from Florida to say he HAS gained 6" in erect length from haveing the surgery and hanging very heavy weights. His procedure is almost identical to Dash's. except.. that this man kept going!!!! he slowly used heavy weights over years. He added more weights as he reached each level that he no longer gained length he added more weight. The last time I spoke to him he was up to 12" and using 60lbs. I have heard of others gaining in excess of 4 inches in erect length AFTER SURGERY. Speaking for myself, I can say this I gained roughly 1.25" using light weights and longer periods of time after my surgery. But Dash's method seem to have merit..
kingsnake
12-04-09, 06:45 PM
Excuse my ignorants but are you guys talking about lengthen surgery where they cut the supensory ligiment?
German Stallion
12-04-09, 11:25 PM
I am back hanging after being away from it for several years. I was up to 25 pounds and defintely made some increse in leangth. I have been stuck in this length issue for a long time so thinking that hanging might budge me off the line.
Most of you know that I had severe Peyronies disease and have had to take it easy to get my penis healed and strong again. I think I am there. I have gained back the length I lost and am now working to get some extra length.
I have a Bib hardcore, used the Bib original as well in the past. The Hardcore is easy for me to use. I learned that the key is the wrapping. Once you get that down, it takes the pain away if you have everything set right.
I also have been using a fulcrum. I have been using a "vaccum cleaner extension" and the "power assist" for fulcrum.
I have been hanging over the pipe and that gives a tremendous stretch and using the power assist also makes some awesome stretch. I put the hanger through the hole of the power assist and let the weight hang over the assist. Putting the assist on my legs and raising it up makes an awesome stretch. I think that it is inceasing the weight pull.
I have been doing three 20 minutes sets twice a day but still at low weight. Will start working back up to heavier weight.
Where are you men feeling that the stretch is coming from...the base the over all shaft...any part or portion of the penis that you think is giving more?
Any advice would be appreciated. My penis is in shape to take anything I give it as I have been working it hard for years. I still have some scar tissue from the peyronies to worry about it but it doesn't bother me any. Girth is about 6 inches except where the scar from the peyronies is, it is narrow there looking down from the top but from the side is deep.
I can flaccid stretch bone pressed 8 inches now. Hanging and working the power assist is giving some flexability to the shaft and seems to be giving me some "give" to that whole penile tissue. GS
z06vet2003
12-05-09, 05:19 AM
Lengthening surgery.. In just the past couple or few years. Doctors have changed the way they cut the ligament during lengthening surgery. What they now do is cut the ligament and reconnect a much smaller portion and much lower. Most of us our attached very high and give us that erection that stands straight up against our belly. The new procedure now will lower your angle of your dangle and allows greater length gains through the use of weights and progress faster than fighting the full tension of the ligament. Most who have the surgery gain between a 1/2" to 2" by using low weights for about 6 months. But a few that went heavy weights and for years have gained 3+ inches. For myself I gained about an 1.5" in about a year of light weight. I heard of the heavy weights but I always got blisters and just gave up and stuck to the 10lbs and under. Now that I have fixed the blister problem I normally hang 15 to 25LBs for an 1 hour a day (instead of the 4 to 8 hours with light weights) and after 2 months I have increased my BPSL by a 1/2".
stillwantmore2
12-06-09, 09:44 PM
Dash your hanging ideas along with a few others were really what helped me form my own theories and ultimately way to gain by hanging.
I have grown over 1.5 bpfsl hanging to date. I believe most people are held up by two things in hanging
1) beliefs about time under tension. my basic question is... on a frozen lake what is more likely to crack the ice. a 100 pound rock placed in the center for 5 minutes or a 50 pound rock placed for 20 minutes. the goal for me is always weight. why? I believe in the simple math that 40 pounds will pull out more penis than 10 pounds (in a time sensitive world that is - some poeple have unlimited amounts of time to train)
2) comfort / pain in wrong places...and most people do not know this is a limitation. yes ...take a vacuum hanger... most people cannot hang over 20 pounds on one why? pain and stress in the wrong places. I am hanging 5 minute sets with up to 40 pounds with the bib hardcore. night and day over the bib hanger...(max of 25 pounds) but had i never bought this hanger i would have never know.
So...experiment..wrap higher adn some of the nutsack if you need too...find a way to get the stress in the right spot. get an IR lamp and warmup before you hang...and keep heat when you do hang. now..pull that shit out my friends!!!
It's thinking like this that keep guys moving forward. When I was hanging, I had a lot of time on my hands. Therefor, it never really made sense to me at the time to focus on always adding more weight. I did, but only to a certain level. I ''topped out'' at around 27.5lbs, and it was rare that I used that much. I focused more on how long cumulatively I hung per day. Looking back on things though, I'm willing to bet a testicle per se, that if I had focused less on total time, and more on weight progression...I would have made better gains in less time. I'm a married man now, and in school. Things are definitely different. I 'may' one day re-approach PE. Possibly hanging, but it's not the first thought on my mind these days.
Keep at it though gents. keep trying new things, and seeing what works, and report back!
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