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IWillBeBig
08-27-09, 02:06 PM
Hey everyone. Id really appreciate ur help..Its a HUGE POST but please read it.. Youl probably be shocked and amzed... This is very hard to explain Its a very rare problem, never heard of it before anywere and I dont know how Ive manged to do this..

Ok so I started off with jelqing a few times a week before Id masturbate at 17..I was amazed and so happy seeing my penis get thicker and longer. I did notice some odd looking veins and thought they would go away..They didnt! It bothered me abit but I could live with it..I think the vein damage was also from stretching without warm ups or lubes before I was circumcised(got circed at 18)...
Then I read about flexing ur pc mucle or kegels as there called..I thought Id give them a try(after being on a high from jelqing), I definetly misunderstood what u were supposed to do but I gave it a go when I had a pee....So just as the pee was about to come out, Id tense up and hold it in..At first I noticed my cock sorta get fuller looking so i though it was working..I tryed it the odd time after that...Then I noticed even when I wasnt trying to do it, it done it automatically..I thought, thats even better..After a few weeks I noticed when really flaccid, my penis seemed abit smaller and tight at the bottom(were its joined to my body)...It looked very circular at the bottom.. The erections looked the same, although I did notice it was slightly thicker at the very bottom...I got very worried when I began to notice my erections were shorter(not thinner)..I panicked..I got quite depressed and thought I was living a nightmare..I blamed it on the jelqing(I now know it wasnt the jelqing).. I thought I may have peyronies disease.I know Ive had little bumps(scar tissue), on my shaft which are only visible when you feel around and usually when I get a semi...I think I got those small scar tissure lumps becuase I wore tight underpants to bed but it did not stop me from getting erections although I did develop a slight curve... I had bought vitamin E pills just to see would they help(they didnt seem to).

After a while I realised it wasnt the jelqing that caused it...
BASICALLY.....Everytime I had a poo or a pee I would feel my penis tighten up and quickly retract into my body..It only really happens when I have a poo...As I tense up and force out the poop and just as I let go I can feel my stomach and my penis quckly retract..This is what has caused the shortening..It has retracted into my body....It happens sometimes when I cough or when I lie or sit in a certain position...
Because of holding in my pee as its about to come about, then releasing it(ps muscle/kegels), evertime I pee now this automatically happens --The pee dribbles out then stops, then goes normally....Sometimes I can fee fully without stopping at the start..As I have said Im not intentionaly doing this..My body when peeing and pooing has got into this habit.

I asked a Urologist about this..I didnt go into too much detail as I was embarassed but he said its not possible..I dont blame him for thinking that..It does sound quite unbelievable but IT IS happening to me!!!!!!

I have tryed jelqing the last few months to sort of counter act the shrinking..The jelqing has helped but the tight feeling at the base of my penis(where its attached to my balls and body)....The space between my balls and penis nw it REALLY THICK...Thats were some of my missing penis is! It isnt sore or anything, its just abit uncomfortable and I find it harder to get an erection...When I do get a hard erection, I feel only half of my penis is showing..It feels very tight at the bottom and when I try and force it out with my hands when I have a semi I can get out some missing penis and its actually quite long but when I let go it jumps back into my body...
Its a really horrible feeling...Its soemthing thats so hard to do but Ive managed it..I feel so unlucky...

HOW DO I STOP THIS??? My body seems to do automatically when I have a poo, it sucks into my body..Ive tryed breathing in but It doesnt seem to work..By the way, im not imagining this, I can actually see it suck into my body while having a $HIT...I find it shrinks in my sleep aswell...I have to lie a certain way...

I think it definetly has something to do with my breathing and maybe my INTERCOSTAL MUSCLES...the coughing, breathing, peeing, pooing.:s
HAS ANYBODY ever heard of this before????????????????

I DO BELIEVE, that I can make my penis bigger again and get it to the size it was OR BIGGER with jelqing and getting out of this ODD AND STRANGE habit....
I used to feel very depressed about it..I thought it was a nightmare and one of the worst things that could happen to a man, for his confidence etc........
But as I have said...Ive seen some results from jelqing and I do believe and hope over time jelqing will make my penis bigger and regain the lenght and more hopefully.....

But the main one is how I can stop my penis retracting into my body?>:(
By the way, I dont want any sympathy, it only makes me feel worse and it panicks me...so please lads no "oh jesus man, u poor guy sorry to hear this"
Thanks guys
How can I get out of this habit??????Could sugery, hypnosis ANYTHING help??????????
one last thing:
I AM 90% SURE IT IS NOT Penis EnlargementYRONIES DISEASE!!!!! THERES NO MORE SCAR TISSUE THAN THERE ALREADY WAS..When I was 14/15 I wore tight underpants to bed and I developed abit of a curve and a small scar tissue lump...But this is all from what I explained above...It is not getting thinner..just shorter!

Thanks felas, would really appreciate any help!

betterpenis123
08-27-09, 02:25 PM
what i would say is give everything a rest from the jelqing to the pc flexes for a week or two and see what happens, when i have a shit i notice that my head gets a bit larger and when i got i hold the pee in i notice my flaccid hang is longer

betterpenis123
08-27-09, 02:31 PM
when i used to drink on a night out and in the morning my dick would shrink a lot i thought it was the blood circulation to my gentitals was shit after drinking so i drank a lot of water like 2 ltres a day then go on 500mg of gingko biloba to help, aswell after that night out everytime i would have a shit my dick would kind of shrink to me i think you blood circulation and pc muscle is what causing it so would just lay off the pc flexes for a while and see what happens

IWillBeBig
07-06-11, 05:42 PM
Hi havent posted in a while..... Well..... I still have this problem.. I can tell you now, I am not insane, and I am not imagining it.
Thank god for stretching & jelqing otherwise my cock would be inside my body now it would be like half an inch long.
I really dont want to read my post above again but I understand my problem a lot more since then..
Basically when I started kegelling when I peed, I noticed after a while my penis was shorter flaccid and the erections were thicker at the base, but shorter. At first I thought it was scar tissue from jelqing but its definetly not as when I started jelqing and stretching it got a better and I felt like I was pulling my penis out of my body and enlarging it, while it was still being retracted. I realised that when I took a dump or had a piss, my body was automatically kegelling(THE WRONG WAY) and I was unintentionally sucking my penis into my body. I know sounds crazy but I can visibly see my cock retract slightly when I have a shit, and sometimes when I pee.
Its retracted so much now, the base of my cock is really thick, which is nice but I have lost some lenght over time. My cock is actually longer but its HIDDEN, I can feel my cock under my balls, it must be about 7.5 inches long but only 5.5 is showing.

When I shit, it feels like I inhale inwards, and pull it into my body..Its really hard to explain how it feels as I dont purposely do it. What I know now is, it was caused by the kegels ie holding pee in before it comes out, I must have done it wrong and Ive managed to f up my muscles or something. I think it has something to do with my intercostal muscles - my breathing.
I know that if people tried to do this they would struggle. I must be 1 in 50 million to find a way to shrink there cock lol.
I deal with it and it doesnt upset as much anymore because I can maintain the size I have, but it takes daily strecthing and jelqing. If it wasnt retracting into my body, I could focuse on getting a longer cock and it would probably be huge now. My cock is hidden basically inside my body. Think of the jelqing/stretching and then the retracting when I shit, as a kind of TUG OF WAR.
I havent seen a Urogolist, I went 2 years ago and he told me this was impossible and just dismissed it completely. I dont think it would help.
What Im posting for is.... Does anybody who is experts on kegels, tell me what I could do to stop it?? I must of done it wrong, and now my body does it naturally when I shit, seems to be only when I shit as thats when I use those muscles?? I have tried holding my penis at the base when I $hit, but it feels uncomfortable and it still seems to retract when I let my hand off. I know this can be cured, its not like its a disease, I just need to counteract what Im doing and to get out of the habit and into a new one. I just need to do the opposite of what I have done and train my system into my old habit when I have a $hit. Thank god for the jelqing, I really think Id be suicidal if my cock was getting smaller and smaller and dissapearing into my body.
I will post pictures soon but I need a new phone as its poor qulaity so could be a while.

Just once more, believe me, this is happening to me.

IWillBeBig
07-06-11, 05:54 PM
PS forgot to mention is it possible I have done the womans version of the kegels?? As in tighten down there?? Because thats what if feels like aswell, base of my cock is tight and it doesnt hang loosely when flaccid

doublelongdaddy
07-06-11, 07:02 PM
You may want to try Uncle Jim's Strapping Method (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44), this works incredible for exposing inner penis. Also, if you have a Bathmate, you can try DLD Hardcore Stretches (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?58069-Total-SizeGenetics-Bathmate-Workout-(maximizing-gains-and-using-equipment-wisely)) which will also bring more inner penis out.

Turnover
07-06-11, 10:54 PM
GODDMAN IWILLBeBig. Gotta say I sympathize with you this is such a nightmare, except you don't get to wake up in the morning and its over... And I know how you feel when you don't want to read something that you have written because it is too overwhelming to remind yourself of going through again. I have never heard of this condition before. You have to remember with doctors they are not super human, just people like you and me in a fancier coat(usually less decorative) I saw an Endocrinologist, you reminded me, can you believe I saw one for the size of my penis? I hate to say this because its something most people(or guys) would never admit, but my flaccid size would get really shortened up too back then. So I saw the Endocrinologist and when I showed her she just had to kick her own ass to stop from laughing. I said is there anything I can do she said like what? Surgery? I said pills, she said no. I left paid the bill humiliated as hell and even though I paid the bill they sent me a bill for the visit anyway. I know now I was supposed to see a Urologist but I guess my mom sent me to see the Endocrinologist because of hormone treatments I had taken back then. So this was years ago, which soon afterwards I begin searching penis enlargement and wearing cockrings, taking penis pills, and edging. I tried stretching and jelging but my privacy was so limited it was unreasonable at the time, this is pre-MOS, and only lasted a couple months.

Ok so fast forward Idk say 2-3 years. I found MOS and my first couple weeks ordered a Bathmate. Didn't know what to expect but I remember waking up every morning at 6am because I was so excited to do the Newbie routine. Then that became hanging, clamping, the Newbie routine, and pumping. Then physical exercise, L-arginine, and anything else I could learn of you name it I was trying it. I curled up in pretzel shapes on my floor, smoked bong loads ripped as hell, and stretched my penis all day. I started having the most fun in my life. My whole day consisted of exercise physical & Penis Enlargement. At night I would K.O. and in the morning do it again and my mom could not figure it out wtf I was doing in my room all day naked with the door locked!

One day I noticed my penis didn't fit in my X-40 anymore. Then I realized it really hurt to pump because the pressure form the walls of the pump seemed to be shrinking! I gained a whole bunch of girth at the base from super-sets of hanging, pumping, stretching, and running. I lost a whole bunch of weight, I never drank a sip of liquor since Feb 2009. Finally when I got the X-40 I was pumping my balls and my cock was honestly at an unbelievable size. I just stopped pumping some sessions because I was exceeding my goal and I had no partner so I had no reason to make my dick so huge and put back in my pants. I kept this up for months and then ran into some personal trouble at home. My routine drastically reduced for a long time but I never gave up a little more than a maintenance routine on a regular basis. I don't really feel like I lost any gains although it has been a while I had those days where Penis Enlargement was my life in the bedroom. I have had days my dick was looking huge again because I never stop and I kept most/all of my gains.

So I told you all this to tell you that you can make it, it is possible. Its really all up to you BUT to me it sounds like you may have a medical condition related to more than just your penis size. My roommate said he had colon cancer and they removed 30% of his colon and he believes it made his penis shrink. I told him he can do stretches and he told me they do not work. I told him hell ya they do and he told me he use to do that all the time and it didn't happen. He just doesnt know how I tried to tell him but he just doesnt believe me, I'm not ready to go into details with someone I sahre the apartment with especially he is totally a stranger I have known just a few months. If you didn't know the penis is connected to other places in your body including your intestine! The veins go from the tip of the glans to the base of the penis and from their they connect to your bladder and even to your anus. I would consider seeing a doctor because it could be something more serious than just the size of your penis. I think you are going to be ok but you need to get this taken care of before it could be potentially irreversible health-wise. If you have any pain from it ever you should immediately seek medical attention. No questions asked, get out there and get it taken care of whatever it is. We're here to help you but we can only help you so much, the rest is up to you. Do what you gotta do and we'll be here to guide you along the way.

My suggestion is that you get a Bathmate. This would help with the retracting flaccid size and erections. Start with that and let us know how it goes. Get familiar with a doctor you are comfortable talking about this with and even your parents; its in your best interest and overall well being! You do not have to go through this alone. Read, learn, and take action. Nobody else can save your penis except for you.

Michcool125
07-07-11, 12:30 AM
Love your story there, Turnover. Very inspiring.

IWillBeBig
07-07-11, 10:37 AM
Thanks for that Turnover, great post.
Few things, Id appreciate if I didnt get any sympathy, makes my problem seem worse...
I have never felt any pain since this started happening to me, thank god, but my orgasms are less intense sometimes if its very tight and shrinked up, other times after a good stretch and jelq session I get a great orgasm. I dont think its a disease as Ive already said its only started since I kegelled, and only retracts when I shit. Im very healthy, not overweight either because Ive heard this can cause the penis to shrink up or fall back into your body too, Ive never never have pain or problems urinating or anything like that.
I didnt know the penis was connected to the anus etc... This makes sense alright.. I really think if I can train myself into kegelling properly, or even doing the opposite to a kegel to counteract whats happening?.. I can stop this.
I should mention I was circumsised in 2008, god Im so unfortunate. I had a tight foreskin, I couldnt stretch the skin as the skin was a bit damaged and I had some broken veins/capilliers, the skin attached to the penis head was sore and it made the tip sting sometimes. It happened when I was 15, I wore tight boxers to bed one night, got a boner in my sleep, went for a piss in the morning, seen it was hanging/bent to one side, it had caused a curve and the foreskin to sort of rip, the curve bothered me for a while, but I realised it was very common even good sexually, I noticed I had a few scar tissue lumps though, one was on the bottom right base, and thats the one that causes the curve to the left. I googled and found its called peyronies disease. I didnt panic as I knew Penis Enlargement could still make more tissue and enlarge my penis though not getting rid of the scar tissue, I tried vitamin E tabs for a while, didnt notice any improvement. Anyway I got it done, happy enough with the result but looking online my scar seems a bit big, less noticeable on erection. Anyway I started kegelling a few months after and thats when it start happening. My erections were great after the circumsision, the circumcision has nothing to do with whats happening now, just to clear that up.

I will try the DLD Hardcore stretches, but I cant get the Bathmate as of now, dont have the cash, besides I live with my parents and I cant have that thing lying around lol.

The stretch I do is, flaccid, I push my skin over the head of my penis, grip the head and pull/stretch, in all directions... Is this called a Ligament strecth yes??
Thanks again for the advice guys!

doublelongdaddy
07-07-11, 05:16 PM
The stretch I do is, flaccid, I push my skin over the head of my penis, grip the head and pull/stretch, in all directions... Is this called a Ligament strecth yes??
Thanks again for the advice guys!


You do not want to bring the skin over the head, you want to retract and grip just below the head so you are stretching the penis and not the skin. This may be why it has been difficult to gain.

IWillBeBig
07-07-11, 05:34 PM
You do not want to bring the skin over the head, you want to retract and grip just below the head so you are stretching the penis and not the skin. This may be why it has been difficult to gain.
Im circumcised. I only push the skin over the head to get a good grip. When I push the skin over the head I then grip like you say just under the head/glans. Il attach a pic in a minute.

CRIPKING8.5X6.5
07-07-11, 05:54 PM
okay i think i had the same problem when i started P.E a couple years bacc (it may be different i dunno)

when i started my dicc used to shrink, it would turtle pretty bad to the point where it would be like 1.5'' flaccid length (lol) and my flaccid dicc was never soft it was hard(not erect hard).

there where a number of reasons why this was happening to me.

1. my dicc needed time to get used to Penis Enlargement

2. i was over training.

3. wasn't getting good circulation in my dicc

4. wasn't warming up before exercises

after paying attention to these things my dicc no longer does this but i still think ive got a blood circulation problem because my body will feel warm but my dicc is/feels cold.
as long as i keep it warm my flaccid hangs pretty good.
maybe you wanna try these things first before panicing about it.

doublelongdaddy
07-08-11, 04:22 PM
Im circumcised. I only push the skin over the head to get a good grip. When I push the skin over the head I then grip like you say just under the head/glans. Il attach a pic in a minute.

You NEED to retract! If you stretch as in the picture you will only be stretching skin, when the skin is retract you are stretching internal penis and ligaments.

IWillBeBig
07-08-11, 04:49 PM
You NEED to retract! If you stretch as in the picture you will only be stretching skin, when the skin is retract you are stretching internal penis and ligaments.
But Im circumsised, the skin doesnt naturally go over the glans. So ur saying leave the skin as it is and grip just underneath the head?? I feel like a get a good stretch as it is but Il try it that way too.

doublelongdaddy
07-08-11, 04:55 PM
But Im circumsised, the skin doesnt naturally go over the glans. So ur saying leave the skin as it is and grip just underneath the head?? I feel like a get a good stretch as it is but Il try it that way too.

Yes, retract and grip at base of head and stretch from there. The way you have been stretching will only bring skin stretch gains, retracting and gripping will bring internal gains.

IWillBeBig
02-20-12, 11:10 AM
An update.

It still retracts when I shit! However things are a good bit better and my cock is a bit longer thru wearing an all day stretcher(plan to get the size genetics) and jelqing a bit more. The all day stretcher has really really helped. GENIUS INVENTION! Im using the ESL40 which straps just below your knee, costs about 15 euros including shipping on ebay. Great device for that price and I plan to get the size genetics and one of row lows stretchers too which Im excited about. Ive already got an average size cock.. such a shame I have about 2 inches hidden both flaccid and erect. 4 years of jelqing and my cock has stayed roughly the same size, because of the retracting and growing at the same time.<:( Thing is if I never tried pe or kegels my cock would of been the same size anyway, but it would of never retracted.

Anyway, main reason for posting is for a question I have.. I got blood test results back.. My thyroid is low.. everything else is fine. Could this have anything to do with the retracting in of my penis when I tense up or take a shit?? I really doubt it but I just wana hear some opinions and if u think it might have something to do with it.

I think my problem is really difficult to imagine and its hard to explain the feeling. If you read my earlier posts(horrible structured posts sorry) you will get an idea. Another way of explaining what its kinda like is, the feeling you get in your crotch and abdominals when your doing sit ups/crunches. You automatically suck your stomach in. Thats what happens just as I pop the shit out. Sounds crazy but this is what happens.

I really dont think its some underlying medical problem like the thyroid. I think its in my brain and unintentionally managed to train my system to do this when I shit. I also notice when I jelq hard sometimes it can suck in for like half a second.

I notice when I went a 2 days without a shit a few months ago. I got more erections in that time and my penis just felt and looked better. The only thing about the esl40 is I cant really wear it when I take a dump as its enclosed at the top and ofcourse its all systems go when you shit, and I cant stop myself from peeing abit too when I shit. Can you wear the size genetics or any of the ron lows stretchers while peeing? Hopefully I can stop the retraction if I have a device on while I shit.. It will try pull my cock in, but the device will hold it tight - a bit like a tug a war:)

I may post a pic of the base of my cock to see if you can see the hidden penis and if you think it looks unusual.

Id appreciate some opinions on the thyroid question.
Thanks!

malehanger
02-20-12, 03:29 PM
Personally, I'd go see a urologist and describe your situation. That's what I would do anyway. Sometimes, I ejaculate a little when I shit, but I've had DOCTORS confirm that it is normal.

G_P
07-07-12, 11:31 PM
My penis started retracting a couple of months ago, today (July 6, 2012) it started retracting into my body worse than ever! I was freakin out! I have been diagnosed w/ Prostatitis & I feel like its related. My retraction happens ESPenis EnlargementCIALLY when standing or sitting, I am NOT overweight but I do have a little amt of thick skin pouch in pubic area but that's not what's "SUCKING" my penis inward! My penis gets relaxed when I lay down but today it still tightens up even when laying down. I know I'm not alone in this but I keep saying to myself, "WHY ME?!" And I know "we" are all NOT crazy or imagining it like the doctors probably think. Sad thing is Urologists don't have answers for this phenomenon. Does anyone know of any penis straps here in the USA?

G_P
07-08-12, 02:26 AM
One more thing, I was prescribed Flomax for prostatitis & found that it relaxes my prostate and my penis is relaxed too & fully hangs flaccid while lying down but when I stand it still kind of pulls in a little. Flomax definitely eases the tightness though.

IWillBeBig
01-06-13, 06:27 PM
Thanks for the info G_P.....

I just read this on DLD's SRT......
"If you do it when you are erect and naked, if you have a strong PC muscle, you can bounce your penis by flexing this muscle. WHen you are peeing and you stop yourself midway through the contraction of a squeeze of the PC muscles you can stop the flow of urine, this, too, is a kegel. A reverse kegel is the complete opposite.

The reverse kegel would be the pushing, or total "unfelt" of the PC muscles. Amazingly, when you learn how to do the Reverse Kegel (RK) you have learned part of what changed penis enlargement and allowed it to stand toe to toe with the medical world version, surgery. When the Reverse Kegel is being performed the suspensory ligaments are bypassed and the user can effectively stretch the penis with no interference. It is also a very common reflex for some men to kegel out of fear when stretching, a kind of defend mechanism, when these guys learn the Reverse Kegel they start making much faster gains."


I haven't read on yet. But just had to post this here before I forgot. This seems like it could work for me. As Ive said its just a natural thing for my body to do now, kegel when I shit or piss, its probably more than just a kegel as I hold my breath and I even see my tummy suck in when it happens.

Do others naturally hold there breath when they kegel and see there tummy suck in???

Another quick update. I use a tlc-xpe tugger now.. It is both for restoring the foreskin and stretching the shaft. I'm using it just over a month and I see improvements. Most notable is when I ejaculate I squirt further, and another 3 or 4 smaller squirts which I never had before.:) This must be because Ive always kegelled without knowing, but the tugger has stretched the muscles making them stronger, I dunno? I dont think its a cure its just a prevention... MAYBE MAYBE it could stretch it so much overtime, that my body will naturally stop sucking it in and If I work on this reverse kegel I could stop it completely.
Don't know if Ive said it before but, my erections have always been rock hard, so I dont think its peyronies(though I do have a fibrous plaque that causes the curve).
I will be getting the SG soon, I really need to try it to work on the curve I have, that scar tissue might have something to do with the retraction too.

IWillBeBig
01-06-13, 06:35 PM
Thanks for the info G_P.....

I just read this on DLD's SRT......
"If you do it when you are erect and naked, if you have a strong PC muscle, you can bounce your penis by flexing this muscle. WHen you are peeing and you stop yourself midway through the contraction of a squeeze of the PC muscles you can stop the flow of urine, this, too, is a kegel. A reverse kegel is the complete opposite.

The reverse kegel would be the pushing, or total "unfelt" of the PC muscles. Amazingly, when you learn how to do the Reverse Kegel (RK) you have learned part of what changed penis enlargement and allowed it to stand toe to toe with the medical world version, surgery. When the Reverse Kegel is being performed the suspensory ligaments are bypassed and the user can effectively stretch the penis with no interference. It is also a very common reflex for some men to kegel out of fear when stretching, a kind of defend mechanism, when these guys learn the Reverse Kegel they start making much faster gains."


I haven't read on yet. But just had to post this here before I forgot. This seems like it could work for me. As Ive said its just a natural thing for my body to do now, kegel when I shit or piss, its probably more than just a kegel as I hold my breath and I even see my tummy suck in when it happens.

Do others naturally hold there breath when they kegel and see there tummy suck in???

Another quick update. I use a tlc-xpe tugger now.. It is both for restoring the foreskin and stretching the shaft. I'm using it just over a month and I see improvements. Most notable is when I ejaculate I squirt further, and then another 3 or 4 smaller squirts which Ive never had before.:) This must be because Ive always kegelled without knowing, but the tugger has stretched the muscles making them stronger, I dunno? I dont think its a cure its just a prevention... MAYBE MAYBE it could stretch it so much overtime, that my body will naturally stop sucking it in and If I work on this reverse kegel I could stop it completely.
Don't know if Ive said it before but, my erections have always been rock hard, so I dont think its peyronies(though I do have a fibrous plaque that causes the curve).
I will be getting the SG soon, I really need to try it to work on the curve I have, that scar tissue might have something to do with the retraction too.

Doc Holiday
01-06-13, 07:30 PM
can i ask a question it might be off the wall you mentioned you were young 18
now theres been numerous mentionings from all over different sites and MOS that at 18 people might put on weight of the body
my question is how is your fat pad at the base of your penis has it gotten thicker im just wondering cause there hasnt been an actual thread anywhere that i found addressing the fat pad behind
penis just alot of people talking bout it
this could be where you penis has been heading

on your thread starter you didnt mention warm ups or warm downs wrapping but i see DLD addressed wrapping
as for me i keep my penis the rest of the day under master lock and key i hang it with a 1inch master lock all day sometimes during the night to keep elongated and stretched
i do this after my excersises are finished in the morning cause for me the wrap didnt work well for me circulation with the lock on has been real good to me
results have been promising at end of my first month
i kegal with lock on strengthening penis more
the lock has helped me pull my penis out of the fat pad just watch out for pinch if going to try it

LasherG
01-07-13, 12:39 AM
Iwillbebig. I would advise maybe studying the anatomy of the penis a bit as your original post is riddling with misunderstandings on how exactly the penis works and what is happening to you. The pc muscle that does the "Kegel" surrounds both the inner penis and the rectum hence what you are feeling when you piss get or drop the kids off. This muscle contracts thereby pulling on the penis slightly with varying degrees of retraction depending on the individual. You are not shrinking. signs of enlarged prostate is increased difficulty in peeing or getting the per started followed by very weak possible forked stream). Get a doc to check it for you as it can become nasty if the prostate keeps on growing. Does any of this shrink your penis....i really dont think it could. Might cause some temporary retraction.

My advise to you would be to do a lot of ligament stretching with your other exercises, which has been advised by others here, and to educate yourself on how your body works as most of your worries are merely due to lack of information.

IWillBeBig
01-07-13, 11:57 PM
can i ask a question it might be off the wall you mentioned you were young 18
now theres been numerous mentionings from all over different sites and MOS that at 18 people might put on weight of the body
my question is how is your fat pad at the base of your penis has it gotten thicker im just wondering cause there hasnt been an actual thread anywhere that i found addressing the fat pad behind
penis just alot of people talking bout it
this could be where you penis has been heading

on your thread starter you didnt mention warm ups or warm downs wrapping but i see DLD addressed wrapping
as for me i keep my penis the rest of the day under master lock and key i hang it with a 1inch master lock all day sometimes during the night to keep elongated and stretched
i do this after my excersises are finished in the morning cause for me the wrap didnt work well for me circulation with the lock on has been real good to me
results have been promising at end of my first month
i kegal with lock on strengthening penis more
the lock has helped me pull my penis out of the fat pad just watch out for pinch if going to try it
Hey ShaggyRat
Yes I was 18 when this issue started but I am now just gone 23. I am not sure exactly what the fat pad(and alot of terms on this forum) is but if its at the very base of the penis when it enters the body then yes, it is quite thick at the bottom and I can feel that there is alot of my penis there. When I kegel flaccid I can feel blood entering the very base and it feels like Im thickening it. If you think my problem could be caused by weight gain, then no definetly not I am very slim about 5'9 68kg. I actually think it helps my stomach stay flat as my abs tighten and my stomach visibly retracts when I go to the toilet.
You say about wearing a master lock... What do you attach it too?? You also say u sleep with it on... I have read this is very dangerous as it can stop the natural angle of your erection and cause your erections to fold. Thats pretty much how my penis got curved and damaged the foreskin in the first place, tight boxers to sleep + nocturnal rections = DISASTER.
But yes I do believe my penis is hiding in the fat pad or inside my body and I have been stretching the ligaments daily through wearing a tlc-xpe, it is really comfortable.

doublelongdaddy
01-08-13, 12:15 AM
Thanks for the info G_P.....

I just read this on DLD's SRT......
"If you do it when you are erect and naked, if you have a strong PC muscle, you can bounce your penis by flexing this muscle. WHen you are peeing and you stop yourself midway through the contraction of a squeeze of the PC muscles you can stop the flow of urine, this, too, is a kegel. A reverse kegel is the complete opposite.

The reverse kegel would be the pushing, or total "unfelt" of the PC muscles. Amazingly, when you learn how to do the Reverse Kegel (RK) you have learned part of what changed penis enlargement and allowed it to stand toe to toe with the medical world version, surgery. When the Reverse Kegel is being performed the suspensory ligaments are bypassed and the user can effectively stretch the penis with no interference. It is also a very common reflex for some men to kegel out of fear when stretching, a kind of defend mechanism, when these guys learn the Reverse Kegel they start making much faster gains."


I haven't read on yet. But just had to post this here before I forgot. This seems like it could work for me. As Ive said its just a natural thing for my body to do now, kegel when I shit or piss, its probably more than just a kegel as I hold my breath and I even see my tummy suck in when it happens.

Do others naturally hold there breath when they kegel and see there tummy suck in???

Another quick update. I use a tlc-xpe tugger now.. It is both for restoring the foreskin and stretching the shaft. I'm using it just over a month and I see improvements. Most notable is when I ejaculate I squirt further, and another 3 or 4 smaller squirts which I never had before.:) This must be because Ive always kegelled without knowing, but the tugger has stretched the muscles making them stronger, I dunno? I dont think its a cure its just a prevention... MAYBE MAYBE it could stretch it so much overtime, that my body will naturally stop sucking it in and If I work on this reverse kegel I could stop it completely.
Don't know if Ive said it before but, my erections have always been rock hard, so I dont think its peyronies(though I do have a fibrous plaque that causes the curve).
I will be getting the SG soon, I really need to try it to work on the curve I have, that scar tissue might have something to do with the retraction too.



I am happy you have explored into SRT, it is a fascinating environment with many excellent practices that ensure the steady and fluent stream of gains. Now, when you consider your flaccid pens and the life you have lived I am sure you have unknowingly have practices that contribute to turtling or shrinkage. The penis is comfortable most when it is retracted and it takes a marked effort to encourage the training of the penis to remain elongated while flaccid. For me it was Uncle Jim's Wrap that taught my penis to remain elongated and lengthly. I also coupled this with an electric heating pad when privately possible, this definitely encourages elongation. There are times though that I have become complacent with these "training sessions", as passive as they may seam, and I end up losing flaccid size. I need a steady, consistent (but light) flaccid regiment, during non-pe times, to keep an optimum flaccid size.

Do not become discouraged if shrinkage happens despite your efforts, there are things like cold weather, stressful days, too much masturbation or even too much pe, and shrinkage will happen as normal protocol. It is no reflection on you or your gains, there are days it is cold, stressful or even a day with too much penis enlargement and I will have shrinkage...plain and simple it happens.

Practicing the teachings of SRT and taking advantage of down time, or times you can not train, and using that time to express passive training in the form of light ADS work, VLC/TLC and now VLX can be used, the SizeGenetics at low to medium tension, cock rings, inexpensive alternatives like the Captains Wench and Uncle Jim's Wrap, and the soon to be released MOS Maxi-Wrap, all allow for the healing of the penis is an extended or expanded state. The most important part of gaining is not necessarily the making of the gains as it is the securing of such. The marriage of gaining and healing is the future of Penis Enlargement and SRT will bring it to the public on March 1st!

IWillBeBig
01-08-13, 12:24 AM
Iwillbebig. I would advise maybe studying the anatomy of the penis a bit as your original post is riddling with misunderstandings on how exactly the penis works and what is happening to you. The pc muscle that does the "Kegel" surrounds both the inner penis and the rectum hence what you are feeling when you piss get or drop the kids off. This muscle contracts thereby pulling on the penis slightly with varying degrees of retraction depending on the individual. You are not shrinking. signs of enlarged prostate is increased difficulty in peeing or getting the per started followed by very weak possible forked stream). Get a doc to check it for you as it can become nasty if the prostate keeps on growing. Does any of this shrink your penis....i really dont think it could. Might cause some temporary retraction.

My advise to you would be to do a lot of ligament stretching with your other exercises, which has been advised by others here, and to educate yourself on how your body works as most of your worries are merely due to lack of information.
Hey lasherG

Yes your right I need to read up on it more, but honestly, it depresses me, and even though I want to sort my problem out so bad, I also hate thinking about it and I dread speaking about it to a doctor or urologist as Ive had bad experiences with him in the past and I'm afraid hel think I'm crazy. My GP already thinks Im a hypocondriac.

You say about the prostate. I actually take finasteride and 1 capsule of saw palmetto daily as I have the beginnings of Male Pattern Baldness. As you probably know these medications shrink the prostate so I highly doubt my prostate is enlarged. And before anyone says these medications have something to do with my problem, I have only been taking them 1 year and I experienced this problem 4 years before, I dont think its effected my penis one bit, despite reading about all the sides I have been fine, actually in this time things have improved slightly.
You say I'm not shrinking, I am trust me. I don't think my penis is dissapearing into thin air, but I am definetly hiding some of it in my body(or fat pad). When I press my fingers against my pelvis(fat pad?) I can feel the actual shaft, everything is so TIGHT. Im not sure if Ive said it before but my penis is tight and hard not floppy. I think this is from the constant kegelling, I mean women kegel to get a tighter vagina, this is what is happening to me, everything is tightening up down there. I must be performing the kegel incorrectly or fucked up the blood flow, I also think my early days of jelqing I may have caused scar tissue that causes this tightness or hardness too, but not quite bad to say its peyronies.

Also, when you jelq, is it possible to jelq WITHOUT kegelling??? I feel the blood rush through my cock but quickly go back a little. Maybe its because when I began jelqing I did not do the technique 100% to the book, I would push blood through then let go or slightly squeeze the base and kegel, I varied it up and still do. I find it difficult to follow the exact technique now as my base is so thick its really awkward and just not comfortable. I have to start my stroke just after the base.... I am rambling a bit, its late and Im not sure if Im making sense.

Thanks for your advice though, I might get my prostate checked soon.

IWillBeBig
01-08-13, 12:31 AM
Thanks for your post DLD. Quick question, do people increase girth aswell as lenght with the SG?? I though the SG only stretched your ligs, but I have heard it can improve girth aswell? I asked a similar question re the Bathmate and sg yesterday, but I cant find what thread I asked in....

Doc Holiday
01-08-13, 01:05 AM
Hey ShaggyRat
Yes I was 18 when this issue started but I am now just gone 23. I am not sure exactly what the fat pad(and alot of terms on this forum) is but if its at the very base of the penis when it enters the body then yes, it is quite thick at the bottom and I can feel that there is alot of my penis there. When I kegel flaccid I can feel blood entering the very base and it feels like Im thickening it. If you think my problem could be caused by weight gain, then no definetly not I am very slim about 5'9 68kg. I actually think it helps my stomach stay flat as my abs tighten and my stomach visibly retracts when I go to the toilet.
You say about wearing a master lock... What do you attach it too?? You also say u sleep with it on... I have read this is very dangerous as it can stop the natural angle of your erection and cause your erections to fold. Thats pretty much how my penis got curved and damaged the foreskin in the first place, tight boxers to sleep + nocturnal rections = DISASTER.
But yes I do believe my penis is hiding in the fat pad or inside my body and I have been stretching the ligaments daily through wearing a tlc-xpe, it is really comfortable.

in our college years as we get older our fatty foods and body travel down wards even though we can be skinny there is a few spots on a body that have fat in them one being our fat pad measure pelvic bone out usually bout half inch to inch in a lot of guys on there fat pads how you say it rounds right at the penis base
i wasnt refering to weight gain as natural our body and gravity are going to take effect to hold more fat tissue at a low point as we get older our anatomy slowly sags wether or not weight gain is there the fat pad will increase over time
when were baby we dont have much of a fat pad until our balls start decending and threw puberty when our balls hang more it pulls the fat out more the older we get more were going to see

the master lock you asked heres the reason i wear it and its a choice up to you if you want to try it or not
the wraps cut off circulation i tried light wraps and still circulation issue
now there were a couple things to look at with the master lock
1. theres a weight called an anchor weight out there its a couple ounces with industrial magnets to hold right behind glans this keeps you elongated it costs an arm and leg
2. master lock comes pre sized and weighted with many different styles to choose from one being a 2 pound with 1inch hasp worn same as anchor weight with 3/4 the cost less
it slides behind the glans and locks in with a proper hasp size the master lock will stay on just watch for the pinch if you try it
the Size Genetics (SG) extender and couple other devices are dangerous to wear when sleeping because there stiff with no motion swing a master lock stays at end allows swing at base of penis as a constant pull whether
or not sleeping its a constant pull ive worn this to bed and i wore a smaller one to bed the smaller hasp 14/16 fit well but i didnt compensation for errections so i moved up a hasp size to 1inch and perfect to wear to bed
it really is a good way to pull your penis and heal it after SG use i do excersizes and SG before the master lock and then i put on master lock to keep penis in elongated form to heal this way no circulation cut off no curve just letting the body do what it naturally does / Now say for example your penis head and only your penis head was the size of a softball and your shaft was thin how long do you think it take to pull closer to ground with that much head weight its using gravity to help it along 2pound lock equaling 900g of tension on an SG
if i didnt think it wasnt safe i wouldnt do it and im doing it cause it works and i feel its safe your penis has to adjust to the extra weight thats all no slinky no more no turtle it healed further out then when i first started
even if i get errection it wont bother it
im telling you this it hasnt changed my natural angle it has actualy straightened it out like the SG does when we wear them
with my errections they have been better now im ED errectile disfunctional i started here at MOS to find ways to get my blood flow back naturally and the routines SG jelqing and excersizes has helped my blood flow
my wife is happy we get our time back and it showed it works with in the first weeks
i go commando i gave up underwear for lack of freedom and circulation issues with lot of boxers and briefs
in a months time i went from turtle to an inch and 1.5 inch bigger with the help of this master lock advice and tools of the trade SG jelqing
it might sound like it doesnt work the master lock but for me i see the results and keeping documented journal with pics signature line first link the results for me have been great
your penis gets curved from periones <------- spell check scarring of the tissue the which can all be managed by an SG you must have worked your penis pretty hard or had some trauma to it thats what i read from site how periones curve happens

check out my first link in my signature line this is my journal
ED trys to rob you of your manhood but if theres a will then theres a way my first gain is blood flow everything after that is a plus
blood flow is key
if thats the TLC tugger thats for foreskin restoration from what i read on the TLC and Ron Paul rep speaking in forum site if you want lengthening of the shaft you want to use the VLC tugger one has vent hole at top one doesnt
last night i finished reading the TLC tugger thread i learned something

IWillBeBig
01-08-13, 09:53 PM
Shaggy Rat, thanks for the post man, could u please put some full stops in though as its kinda hard to read.

I didn't over work my penis, I wore tight boxers to bed and woke up with my cockk facing to the left and then on my erections had a curve, I never knew about pe when this happened so as you can imagine I panicked a bit.
Also the tlc I have, is for BOTH restoration of foreskin and lenghtening, Ron Low told me its so new he hasnt actually updated he site yet but he assured me this helps with both restoring and lenghtening and so far it seems to be working, its called the TLC-XPenis Enlargement. I plan to attach the tlc to the size genetics and that looks amazing and more comfortable than the sg alone.
Can you please link me(or somebody) your master lock you attach under the glans?? Id love to wear something while I sleep safely. I dont really understand what you said and I need a picture or a link, thanks!

Doc Holiday
01-08-13, 10:10 PM
Shaggy Rat, thanks for the post man, could u please put some full stops in though as its kinda hard to read.

I didn't over work my penis, I wore tight boxers to bed and woke up with my cockk facing to the left and then on my erections had a curve, I never knew about pe when this happened so as you can imagine I panicked a bit.
Also the tlc I have, is for BOTH restoration of foreskin and lenghtening, Ron Low told me its so new he hasnt actually updated he site yet but he assured me this helps with both restoring and lenghtening and so far it seems to be working, its called the TLC-XPenis Enlargement. I plan to attach the tlc to the size genetics and that looks amazing and more comfortable than the sg alone.
Can you please link me(or somebody) your master lock you attach under the glans?? Id love to wear something while I sleep safely. I dont really understand what you said and I need a picture or a link, thanks!

gotta start going commando lol
my journal in signature line has my master lock discriptions in it
with master lock attach behind the glans in my journal the pics and post will be #27 5 pics
only thing to worry bout with the locks are the pinch have to pull skin away from locking hasp once locked it gives a good little pull for heal and stretch
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?69392-Jelqin-Newbie-here-My-first-time-experience
post #27 in my journal thread
i wear a 1 inch hasp 2 pound master lock

IWillBeBig
01-28-13, 09:29 PM
Thanks for the info G_P.....

I just read this on DLD's SRT......
"If you do it when you are erect and naked, if you have a strong PC muscle, you can bounce your penis by flexing this muscle. WHen you are peeing and you stop yourself midway through the contraction of a squeeze of the PC muscles you can stop the flow of urine, this, too, is a kegel. A reverse kegel is the complete opposite.

The reverse kegel would be the pushing, or total "unfelt" of the PC muscles. Amazingly, when you learn how to do the Reverse Kegel (RK) you have learned part of what changed penis enlargement and allowed it to stand toe to toe with the medical world version, surgery. When the Reverse Kegel is being performed the suspensory ligaments are bypassed and the user can effectively stretch the penis with no interference. It is also a very common reflex for some men to kegel out of fear when stretching, a kind of defend mechanism, when these guys learn the Reverse Kegel they start making much faster gains."


I haven't read on yet. But just had to post this here before I forgot. This seems like it could work for me. As Ive said its just a natural thing for my body to do now, kegel when I shit or piss, its probably more than just a kegel as I hold my breath and I even see my tummy suck in when it happens.

Do others naturally hold there breath when they kegel and see there tummy suck in???

Another quick update. I use a tlc-xpe tugger now.. It is both for restoring the foreskin and stretching the shaft. I'm using it just over a month and I see improvements. Most notable is when I ejaculate I squirt further, and another 3 or 4 smaller squirts which I never had before.:) This must be because Ive always kegelled without knowing, but the tugger has stretched the muscles making them stronger, I dunno? I dont think its a cure its just a prevention... MAYBE MAYBE it could stretch it so much overtime, that my body will naturally stop sucking it in and If I work on this reverse kegel I could stop it completely.
Don't know if Ive said it before but, my erections have always been rock hard, so I dont think its peyronies(though I do have a fibrous plaque that causes the curve).
I will be getting the SG soon, I really need to try it to work on the curve I have, that scar tissue might have something to do with the retraction too.
Ok so believe it or not, I haven't read on yet! Too busy!
Can anyone or even DLD link me to the rest of what he/you said? I looked in SRT but theres so much there I couldn't find where I seen it.

Thanks

doublelongdaddy
01-29-13, 07:47 PM
Ok so believe it or not, I haven't read on yet! Too busy!
Can anyone or even DLD link me to the rest of what he/you said? I looked in SRT but theres so much there I couldn't find where I seen it.

Thanks

Everything is in the SRT Thread (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-SRT-The-Fastest-Way-to-a-Massive-Penis-and-a-Perfect-Body)

IWillBeBig
02-12-13, 09:42 PM
Everything is in the SRT Thread (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-SRT-The-Fastest-Way-to-a-Massive-Penis-and-a-Perfect-Body)

So Ive read it all again. You say that the reverse kegel is the opposite of a kegel, I got that, and you say its the letting go of the pc muscle rather than tensing it/contracting it. Can you explain this a little further please?? I feel I kegel everytime I take a $hit and Im sure its retracting my cock into my body.
My upward and strong erections even prove how Ive got a strong pc muscle.

Do you or anybody feel you kegel even when you dont want to as its became such a habit?

doublelongdaddy
02-22-13, 03:36 PM
At one point I kept involuntarily kegeling and would realize and couldn't stop. It was like a compulsion I could not stop. I have really bad OCD though so I don't know if that was the real culprit.

That will do nothing but strengthen the muscles and allow them to have more endurance.

doublelongdaddy
02-27-13, 11:23 PM
I agree but was doing it a bit too much.

RhytHydromax to all things my Brother!

IWillBeBig
03-28-13, 10:29 PM
So I happened to stumble upon this picture. This is similar to mine except 10x worse.
I think that could even be a boner, but mine is like that(not as bad) after Im really cold or just had a big dump.. See how the very base looks thick and full like theres a lot of inner penis there? Or is that the 'fatpad'??
The words say 'dont do pills', assuming it means ecstasy, what condition is this?? Peyronies or even just a retracting cock like I have??

27036

doublelongdaddy
04-01-13, 03:14 PM
So I happened to stumble upon this picture. This is similar to mine except 10x worse.
I think that could even be a boner, but mine is like that(not as bad) after Im really cold or just had a big dump.. See how the very base looks thick and full like theres a lot of inner penis there? Or is that the 'fatpad'??
The words say 'dont do pills', assuming it means ecstasy, what condition is this?? Peyronies or even just a retracting cock like I have??

27036

I think it is just a cruel picture that is meant to cause harm to men. Any man who may have these issues can find solace here, on Matters of Size, and whatever size you have makes little difference, we are in the business of gaining!

IWillBeBig
04-01-13, 11:46 PM
Thats true dld but Im asking what exactly is this condition? I havent uploaded a pic of my cock because my phone quality is bad and also my laptop webcam is broke but I just happened to come across this and the base especially looks like mine.

Im wearing the SG with the tlc-xpe attached and seeing improvement in lenght, harder erections and best of all girth. Girth I think is from jelqing and holding squeeze and maybe edging. But still, each time I shit it wants to go into my body and the base gets thicker, each time I shit I feel I lose lenght. Sounds crude but when I fart with sg on I feel the device jerk inwards towards pelvis. So im using muscles in my ass thats causing my penis to retract, I dont know how to stop it. My lenght is staying pretty much the same because of this. When I get a day of hours in the sg, manual stretch and then jelq I get a fairly big increase in size, because my inner penis has just came out I havent actually grown new cock in that time. But if I rest for a few days and have diarhea or something my size shrinks into my scrotum/pelvis again.

doublelongdaddy
04-02-13, 02:34 PM
Well Expressive Stretching (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?59663-Increase-Your-Length-with-DLD-Expressive-Stretching) will definitely expose more inner penis and this is always thicker at the base. This can be done using a few different methods. First, Bathmate or Penomet Hardcore Stretches are the fastest method, these exercises literally pump out new inner penis from the base. Another method, the original method, would be Ring Stretching in the LengthMaster or PowerAssist....you could also create your own ring. This method basically pushes out and exposes inner penis and allows for the user to effectively stretch it. Another method that will always increase base girth would be heavy downward stretching. The heavier the downward stretch the more it increases the base girth.

IWillBeBig
05-01-13, 08:04 AM
Can anyone (dld??) recommend me a good cock ring please?????

Cheers

IWillBeBig
05-08-13, 07:32 PM
Can anyone (dld??) recommend me a good cock ring please?????

Cheers
Nobody?? Jesus.....

Little follow up, cock is straightening, wearing the tlc/vlc with the SG with all bars on except little small 1s, plan to add them later. Also have the screws/threads extended a good bit, but I don't know what that equates to in tension, can anyone explain the tension please??

Only thing that worries me with vlc/tlc with the sg is the tlc leaves an imprint of the cone on my glans when I have it on for hours. Could the cone digging into glans/head cause reduced sensitivity? I dont feel any pain it just feels abit numb/slightly swelled. Would be a shame if it was doing damage because I dont tink I can use the size genetics without it(tlc-x), too uncomfortable.

Edit: also could some mod edit the title of the thread, it annoys me reading it.:blush:

doublelongdaddy
05-08-13, 11:42 PM
Can anyone (dld??) recommend me a good cock ring please?????

Cheers

Sorry for my absence, I have been very busy with all the Matters of Size Updates. The best rings to use, IMO, are the cheap black rubber rings they sell for 10 to a pack for a couple bucks. These are cheap and effective! They are perfect for holding the pump and easily replaced when they wear out.

IWillBeBig
05-10-13, 11:25 AM
Can I have a link for them please?

Thanks dld

keepingitbig
05-10-13, 12:36 PM
Haha, you're overracting. I said the same thing when I was off from my period of not doing Penis Enlargement. My size is still here, but I lost a little girth. Just settle down, you're not losing anything.

doublelongdaddy
05-10-13, 12:49 PM
Can I have a link for them please?

Thanks dld

These are just fine. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tri-Rings-Rubber-Erection-Cock-Rings-Penis-Sex-Toy-Men-2-1-5-1-25-BLUE-/111066578435?pt=Sex_Toys_US&hash=item19dc157e03)

IWillBeBig
05-15-13, 11:29 PM
These are just fine. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tri-Rings-Rubber-Erection-Cock-Rings-Penis-Sex-Toy-Men-2-1-5-1-25-BLUE-/111066578435?pt=Sex_Toys_US&hash=item19dc157e03)

Unfortunately they only ship to usa. Anything for europe? Does it have to be rubber?

doublelongdaddy
05-16-13, 01:18 PM
Unfortunately they only ship to usa. Anything for europe? Does it have to be rubber?

No, they can be silicone, rubber, latex, whatever...as a matter of fact it would be cheaper just to hit a hardware store and grab some "O Rings" they are the same as the cock rings.

IWillBeBig
05-16-13, 07:19 PM
Stretching
Expressive Stretching through the Loop of the PowerAssist or LengthMaster will be best but the Bathmate Hardcore Stretches may also be used instead. I like stretching through the Loop as it gives me great access to internal penis that I can easily stretch…very intense method. Six minutes of this will be fine, almost see it as your warmup! I push as much penis through and grab with both hands and stretch from the extreme base, exposed by the Loop. If I am I am rehearsed with my Bathmate I can accomplish the same thing doing Bathmate Hardcore Stretches (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?57456-Hardcore-BathMate-Stretches-Using-the-Suction). If you do not own either and still want to participate in these trials, be creative! Do low shaft stretching! Stretch from extreme base. Expressive Stretching is vital to making gains quickest and accessing penis that would otherwise be left dormant. There is quite a bit of penis in every one of us! Prior to doing Penis Enlargement, or in my early days of Penis Enlargement I measured close to 9" of inner penis! Tracing that much penis locked deep in the body, I became obsessed with Expressing it (hence Expressive Stretching).

In order to stretch this tissue we need to get our hands around it! It needs to be exposed and stretched with authority! So whatever method you use, be sure to be putting a solid 6 minutes into Expressive Stretching (ES) is important to this process. Now that we have exposed and stretched some of this inner tissue we want to take advantage of any temporary gains we may have seen in Expression. So as soon as ES is done go right into the next part of your stretching routine.


This is the shit I need. Then wearing a ring for when I shit. Already have the size genetics and logging good hours in it, but I still feel I have a lot of hidden penis. With the sg and vlc/tlc I feel too much of the stretch is on the skin.

doublelongdaddy
05-17-13, 01:55 PM
Wow, reading this post I feel extremely honored, it was as if I was typing it! Awesome capture and application of knowledge, it is such a gift when a Brother partakes of the knowledge and makes the Brotherhood shine that much brighter.