View Full Version : Women Don't know their sizes...from a black man's point of view
jclark246
03-06-04, 10:02 PM
I don't swing, but I was surfing a few months ago and found www.swingersboard.com. There was a thread there which inspired me to write this post. We are all consious of our size weather 2 inches or twelve. If we are totally fine with our endowment, we find other things to worry about. For example, we have all asked or wondered about our girls past sexual experiences, and tried to make comparisons (Am I better than him, did he make you cum/ do I make you cum, who was your best lover etc..). When we hear an answer that we don't like we get insecure about ourselves and possibly our manhood.
And what more obvious thing is there to ask about than size? I read these post on MOS alot and many of you guys complain about a girl saying that the last guy she was with was 10 inches, or 12 or whatever. You get pissed, think she's a ho, and your confidence is crushed. Well, let me tell you about these alleged monsters these chicks boast about.
To make a long story short, these experienced, swinging women were only taking their partners word for how large they were and no one was confirming it. It was not until some observant woman got a ruler, took a look at a real 10 inch measurement that these women realized these guys were smaller--alot smaller.
Some women said the guys must have been measuring their cocks from their asshole to get up to the ten inch range. Another woman with a ruler aggreed saying that most of the guys she's been with claimed 9 or 10 inches, but after looking at the ruler, she determined that some were as small as 5 or 6 inches.
One women suggested that all women should measure the width of one of their hands. The average measurement of the width of their hands was 3.5 inches. Next, she told them to hold the ruler at its base. The next reaction was both surprising and unanimous.
All of these chicks were amazed at just how enormous 7 inches really is. All of these women were now saying things like, "Oh my God, 7 inches would rip me in half." and "It's no way these guys were 7 inches let alone 10!"
So for all you guys that are comparing your self to a girl who claims to have been with a 10 incher, just remember this post and that when it comes to size, most women don't know their measurements.
blue1214198203
03-06-04, 11:35 PM
7 inches would rip me in half!?
whats the female vagina comparable too?
My hands are 3 inches across, so I only need 9 inches to do a DLD 3 hander :mrgrin:
Seriously, I was talking to one of my ex-GF's a while back and I guess she caught the guy she is currently living with trying to strike up some sort of affair online (she put a snooper on the computer to catch him), and I guess she claims he has a 9 inch dick but the lady he wanted to cheat with said she needed 10 inches.
OK, now this either means this woman has no clue how big these guys are since 9 inches is not good enough for her (who knows maybe it is not and she has an event horizon for a pussy), and unless she took out a ruler she would have to just guess or take the "word" of these guys she has had in the past which were bigger than 10 inches, or she just happens to be one of the biggest size queens in Vegas (this is where my ex-GF and her live-in boyfriend are at the moment).
Really, I think it is all perspective. A tall woman will probably find a large dick to be average and a petite woman will find an average dick to be huge (kinda like how in porn they usually prefer petite women to make the guys look huge).
But I also think the statistics I read somewhere not long ago, that guys who consider themselves well-endowed get 3X as many sex partners per year as men who consider themselves average or small has a lot to do with woman's perceptions as well.
For example, say you have your typical big-cock alpha-male who bones hundreds of women in his lifetime when the average American has 7 sexual partners throughout their lifetime. Well, then you have the typical beta-male who is just looking for "the one" to get married to or whatever. He doesn't have the self-confidence or the reputation to screw 4 or 5 different women a month (or perhaps more) without having to go through all the dating and seduction guys who don't have anything super-special in their pants have to do. Not to be confused with having money/status which unless you are a celebrity with limited time women won't put out early because they know once you have screwed them you will move onto something else sooner or later, while guys with a big dick usually can get down to business a lot faster. Maybe not as fast as unzipping their pants on a first date, but a lot faster than guys who have a thing for having sex with the lights out rofl
So, in terms of promiscuity, the big-cock alpha male is extremely promiscuous, women on average are somewhat promiscuous, and beta-males for reasons somtimes beyond their control that go deeper than confidence issues, are generally not that promiscuous at all, and many of them go to their deathbed as virgins or else end up paying for sex for the rest of their life if they cannot hook some woman up into getting married.
Anyways, back to the original point. If only 10% of the men are getting 90% of the pussy out there, then the top 10% are going to skew women's perceptions of what "average" is based on personal experience. Now we have porn skewing the true perception of average (and a guy cracked up on Viagra 24/7 with a massive pumpjob being filmed by a special camera lens does not help either) as well, so I think women just like with "Reality TV" are basing their perceptions of men on what they see, not what they experience.
Also, if you were ever forced to watch Sex and The City with a significant other, most women have a "Samantha" type friend who brags about all the guys she has slept with and their cock sizes as well regardless of if she is telling the truth or not. This fantasy talk skews the perception women have of a guy as well, so much in fact you could tell a woman you are 2-4 inches more than you really are and unless she gets out a ruler and measures herself, she is going to believe you. And finally, you have women who just don't give head (lots of them exist for lots of reasons). These women have no clue what they are fucking because they are guessing what it feels like inside them.
In addition, would a woman ever brag to her friends about having sex with a bunch of men affected by micro-penis (she might tell some of them if she is either cruel or vindictive against the guy), just as would a guy brag about something like "damn Bob I shagged a 300 pounder last night, you should see how she backed that ass up"? Probably not (some I guess do).
One thing I did find interesting was that the last woman I was with was a black woman and she had never been with a white guy before. Anyways, from what she told me she had been with only two well hung guys before. One was a 6'8" basketball player who was so big that it caused her massive pain, and the other was just right and the only guy who could make her cum vaginally. Anyways, at the time I had just started PE so I was maybe 5.5 erect up from 5 inches (that is bone pressed BTW) when I started. Amazingly, she said I was third or fourth and the guy previous to me (who was black) had a 4 inch penis (no fat pad, just 4 inches). Also, I guess black men are not much into going downtown. I guess she appreciated my talents I have improved upon over the years to "make up for my shortcomings" rofl , but man I wonder what I could do with the 7-1/4 inch one I have right now. I guess starting out small could be considered a good thing as I was forced to master certain arts guys who are average or well-endowed don't have to worry about too much. Well, with all the crazy perceptions of black men by a lot of women, I guess at least I am not 4 inches, black, and never heard about PE.
seven_wants_ten
03-07-04, 01:22 AM
:clap::clap::clap:
I related this story in another forum last year, but I think it applies here.
We're pretty loose at work when it comes to talking about sex. Our lunchtime conversations usually end up sexually related.
A woman I work with had previously mentioned that her mother-in-law was always 'proud' about the size of her boys, referring, of course, to their penis size. Her husband and his brother are both well over 6 foot tall, big hands, big feet, blah, blah, blah. So I figure, these guys must easily be 8-9".
Anyhow, she was ordering some testing tools and whatnot, and she showed us a keychain tape measure she was planning on getting for us. Of couse, I made the joke that we don't need any rulers, not with me around. I always thought of myself as being very small (I'm 5.5" BP, 5" girth). Well, she let out about 6 inches of the tape measure and started shaking it up and down. Her comment was, "Oh, my god, 6 inches is pretty big". This went on for a few minutes. She was really amazed about how long 6 inches was.
I really think women are clueless when it comes to penis size. They may say they want a big dick, and they think they know what's 'big', but when faced with actual measurements, they realize they don't have a clue.
Bigd5903
03-07-04, 08:36 AM
Ya I like how on those swinger sites the girls say they will accept nothing less than 9-10 inches. I'd like to see their face when they got a real 10 inches. My girl thoguht I was huge when i was 6 nbp. She hasn't seen me since i got to 7 nbp... hehehe
stillwantmore
03-07-04, 08:54 AM
I've been with my g/f for almost 2 years. First time she saw me erect, she swore up and down that I just HAD TO BE at least nine inches long. She went so far as to brag to a few of her friends. She didnt believe that I was really "only" 7" long (yes, non bp)until I measured it in front of her. She couldnt believe how big 7" was.
I think a LOT of small or average guys lie about thier size to women. A lot of them must also go so far as to brag with lines like "yea, not bad for 9 inches huh?" or whatever these losers say. I love these guys though. These liars are only doing those of us who are actually bigger than average a HUGE favor. If a girl thinks that her past boyfriend, or lover was 8 inches or more (based on what he led her to believe), when he was only average or LESS....and then she meets up with you and your penis is bigger than his was....she will have no choice but to think that you must be truly huge.
Lie on losers!! We love you guys!!
Gandolf
03-07-04, 09:08 AM
I've been with my g/f for almost 2 years. First time she saw me erect, she swore up and down that I just HAD TO BE at least nine inches long. She went so far as to brag to a few of her friends. She didnt believe that I was really "only" 7" long (yes, non bp)until I measured it in front of her. She couldnt believe how big 7" was.
I think a LOT of small or average guys lie about thier size to women. A lot of them must also go so far as to brag with lines like "yea, not bad for 9 inches huh?" or whatever these losers say. I love these guys though. These liars are only doing those of us who are actually bigger than average a HUGE favor. If a girl thinks that her past boyfriend, or lover was 8 inches or more (based on what he led her to believe), when he was only average or LESS....and then she meets up with you and your penis is bigger than his was....she will have no choice but to think that you must be truly huge.
Lie on losers!! We love you guys!!True, and it makes us look all the better because they'll associate a huge number with the size of our cocks and these previous losers were the ones to do the bragging for us, so we're modest about out "ten inch cocks"!
This a damn good thread. I'm going to read this if I ever feel down!
At 7.625" BPEL I could probably muster 7" NBPEL with a little weight lost, which makes me an "SWM" 9"!:p
jclark246
03-07-04, 01:46 PM
My hands are 3 inches across, so I only need 9 inches to do a DLD 3 hander :mrgrin:
Seriously, I was talking to one of my ex-GF's a while back and I guess she caught the guy she is currently living with trying to strike up some sort of affair online (she put a snooper on the computer to catch him), and I guess she claims he has a 9 inch dick but the lady he wanted to cheat with said she needed 10 inches.
OK, now this either means this woman has no clue how big these guys are since 9 inches is not good enough for her (who knows maybe it is not and she has an event horizon for a pussy), and unless she took out a ruler she would have to just guess or take the "word" of these guys she has had in the past which were bigger than 10 inches, or she just happens to be one of the biggest size queens in Vegas (this is where my ex-GF and her live-in boyfriend are at the moment).
Really, I think it is all perspective. A tall woman will probably find a large dick to be average and a petite woman will find an average dick to be huge (kinda like how in porn they usually prefer petite women to make the guys look huge).
But I also think the statistics I read somewhere not long ago, that guys who consider themselves well-endowed get 3X as many sex partners per year as men who consider themselves average or small has a lot to do with woman's perceptions as well.
For example, say you have your typical big-cock alpha-male who bones hundreds of women in his lifetime when the average American has 7 sexual partners throughout their lifetime. Well, then you have the typical beta-male who is just looking for "the one" to get married to or whatever. He doesn't have the self-confidence or the reputation to screw 4 or 5 different women a month (or perhaps more) without having to go through all the dating and seduction guys who don't have anything super-special in their pants have to do. Not to be confused with having money/status which unless you are a celebrity with limited time women won't put out early because they know once you have screwed them you will move onto something else sooner or later, while guys with a big dick usually can get down to business a lot faster. Maybe not as fast as unzipping their pants on a first date, but a lot faster than guys who have a thing for having sex with the lights out rofl
So, in terms of promiscuity, the big-cock alpha male is extremely promiscuous, women on average are somewhat promiscuous, and beta-males for reasons somtimes beyond their control that go deeper than confidence issues, are generally not that promiscuous at all, and many of them go to their deathbed as virgins or else end up paying for sex for the rest of their life if they cannot hook some woman up into getting married.
Anyways, back to the original point. If only 10% of the men are getting 90% of the pussy out there, then the top 10% are going to skew women's perceptions of what "average" is based on personal experience. Now we have porn skewing the true perception of average (and a guy cracked up on Viagra 24/7 with a massive pumpjob being filmed by a special camera lens does not help either) as well, so I think women just like with "Reality TV" are basing their perceptions of men on what they see, not what they experience.
Also, if you were ever forced to watch Sex and The City with a significant other, most women have a "Samantha" type friend who brags about all the guys she has slept with and their cock sizes as well regardless of if she is telling the truth or not. This fantasy talk skews the perception women have of a guy as well, so much in fact you could tell a woman you are 2-4 inches more than you really are and unless she gets out a ruler and measures herself, she is going to believe you. And finally, you have women who just don't give head (lots of them exist for lots of reasons). These women have no clue what they are fucking because they are guessing what it feels like inside them.
In addition, would a woman ever brag to her friends about having sex with a bunch of men affected by micro-penis (she might tell some of them if she is either cruel or vindictive against the guy), just as would a guy brag about something like "damn Bob I shagged a 300 pounder last night, you should see how she backed that ass up"? Probably not (some I guess do).
One thing I did find interesting was that the last woman I was with was a black woman and she had never been with a white guy before. Anyways, from what she told me she had been with only two well hung guys before. One was a 6'8" basketball player who was so big that it caused her massive pain, and the other was just right and the only guy who could make her cum vaginally. Anyways, at the time I had just started PE so I was maybe 5.5 erect up from 5 inches (that is bone pressed BTW) when I started. Amazingly, she said I was third or fourth and the guy previous to me (who was black) had a 4 inch penis (no fat pad, just 4 inches). Also, I guess black men are not much into going downtown. I guess she appreciated my talents I have improved upon over the years to "make up for my shortcomings" rofl , but man I wonder what I could do with the 7-1/4 inch one I have right now. I guess starting out small could be considered a good thing as I was forced to master certain arts guys who are average or well-endowed don't have to worry about too much. Well, with all the crazy perceptions of black men by a lot of women, I guess at least I am not 4 inches, black, and never heard about PE.
Well, speaking as a black man, 24 years old, I was attracted to this site b/c I was thinking about getting a little larger. I have never practiced any form of PE and I am currently anywhere between 7.6-8.0 inches long and about 5.3 inches around. Let me also add that I am 6 foot 5 and 325 lbs. Needless to say that my 7 and a half looks relatively smaller on me in the mirror. It wasn't until a girl grabs it and I see it in her hand, mouth, or whatever that I realized I had pretty good size. Plus, i am a grower. When flacid I am about 5 inches (but because I'm so big, it looks like 2 or 3 inches to me). I wanted to have a longer flacid length, more girth etc... Now I realize that I am big enough and besides that, none of my lovers have ever complained about my sex or size.
As for the black stereotypes, these are ages old, and I do think that as a whole it is probably true about the size myth. Need some proof--look at the average size of a black woman's hips, thighs and her ass. On average, black women are overwhelmingly the thickest women out there, so if this is true, it makes sense that we, as black men are naturally larger in order to be able to mate. (some positions would be impossible for a 4 inch guy with a super thick black woman). But there are always exeptions. More than anything, I think women are attracted to black men because of our confidence (in most cases). If you come in the bedroom and tell her your going to knock the bottom out, she's gonna get very excited, but if you are insecure--any woman can sense this-- before long she'll be looking for someone else.
Also, I think there is another issue that gets lost in the size myth--more often than not black men have good sexual rhythm. This stems from a non--sexual rhythm that is a part of our culture. Sexual rhythm is what can help get a woman off vaginally. We all talk about Mandingo or Lex and we want to be their alleged sizes, bt ask any woman, white black or green who they want to be with and most will say the same thing--Mr. Marcus.
Mr. Marcus is obviously smaller in size but has great confidence in himself and great sexual rhythm. Sure, he isn't small either--he's got good size, but it just goes to show that it doesn't take an abnormal cock to get some chick off, good size and rhythm go a long way.
jclark246
03-07-04, 01:48 PM
True, and it makes us look all the better because they'll associate a huge number with the size of our cocks and these previous losers were the ones to do the bragging for us, so we're modest about out "ten inch cocks"!
Good point!
jclark246
03-07-04, 01:51 PM
I related this story in another forum last year, but I think it applies here.
We're pretty loose at work when it comes to talking about sex. Our lunchtime conversations usually end up sexually related.
A woman I work with had previously mentioned that her mother-in-law was always 'proud' about the size of her boys, referring, of course, to their penis size. Her husband and his brother are both well over 6 foot tall, big hands, big feet, blah, blah, blah. So I figure, these guys must easily be 8-9".
Anyhow, she was ordering some testing tools and whatnot, and she showed us a keychain tape measure she was planning on getting for us. Of couse, I made the joke that we don't need any rulers, not with me around. I always thought of myself as being very small (I'm 5.5" BP, 5" girth). Well, she let out about 6 inches of the tape measure and started shaking it up and down. Her comment was, "Oh, my god, 6 inches is pretty big". This went on for a few minutes. She was really amazed about how long 6 inches was.
I really think women are clueless when it comes to penis size. They may say they want a big dick, and they think they know what's 'big', but when faced with actual measurements, they realize they don't have a clue.
Exactly man
doublelongdaddy
03-07-04, 02:01 PM
EXCELENT POST!
I was watching a video the other day from monsters of cock (the guy with the big stick) anyway, there was a video titled 14 inches measured. I was like, I guess my assumptions on this guy were wrong (I pegged him to be about 8.5"). I was watching the video and low and behold this girl actually measured him, the measurement was 8" and the girth was 6. I just found it obsured that the video was entitled 14".
Dr. Paul
03-07-04, 02:43 PM
I have seen thousands of male genitalia in every conceivable race and I have never witnessed anything more than 5 inches in a flaccid state. I think many woman are easily fooled into believing false size claims. In a sexual situation I think this type of exaggeration can be easily believed because the woman is extremely venerable.
Paul
randolf
03-07-04, 03:55 PM
I don't swing, but I was surfing a few months ago and found www.swingersboard.com. There was a thread there which inspired me to write this post. We are all consious of our size weather 2 inches or twelve. If we are totally fine with our endowment, we find other things to worry about. For example, we have all asked or wondered about our girls past sexual experiences, and tried to make comparisons (Am I better than him, did he make you cum/ do I make you cum, who was your best lover etc..). When we hear an answer that we don't like we get insecure about ourselves and possibly our manhood.
And what more obvious thing is there to ask about than size? I read these post on MOS alot and many of you guys complain about a girl saying that the last guy she was with was 10 inches, or 12 or whatever. You get pissed, think she's a ho, and your confidence is crushed. Well, let me tell you about these alleged monsters these chicks boast about.
To make a long story short, these experienced, swinging women were only taking their partners word for how large they were and no one was confirming it. It was not until some observant woman got a ruler, took a look at a real 10 inch measurement that these women realized these guys were smaller--alot smaller.
Some women said the guys must have been measuring their cocks from their asshole to get up to the ten inch range. Another woman with a ruler aggreed saying that most of the guys she's been with claimed 9 or 10 inches, but after looking at the ruler, she determined that some were as small as 5 or 6 inches.
One women suggested that all women should measure the width of one of their hands. The average measurement of the width of their hands was 3.5 inches. Next, she told them to hold the ruler at its base. The next reaction was both surprising and unanimous.
All of these chicks were amazed at just how enormous 7 inches really is. All of these women were now saying things like, "Oh my God, 7 inches would rip me in half." and "It's no way these guys were 7 inches let alone 10!"
So for all you guys that are comparing your self to a girl who claims to have been with a 10 incher, just remember this post and that when it comes to size, most women don't know their measurements.
Great post. I've really stopped believing all the bullshit, until I see things with my own eyes. Girls bullshit practically all the time, and guys bullshit even more. Like at the gym guys constantly are saying how much they can lift, but they can't do that amount today because they are 'sick.'
This is why for my hung clothing line, I might do eventualy, you have to be fucking verified by some fluff girl. Because I know people will wear the hung clothing even if they are small. Which is sadly weak.
I think if I was a woman I would try and shoot guys down all the time, like they do, because the bullshitting would get so annoying. I'd be calling people on it, like 10 inches, whip that bad boy out!! You can bench 300, me and my friend will stop by and see it! You're 6'9 stand up against the door frame bare foot. I'd probably carry a ruler around lol.
REDZULU2003
03-07-04, 04:19 PM
Girls girls girls, who need um? I am turning homo at the end of the month.
Send an application form with stats and a LARGE photo to DLDs HOME address.
The winner will get ass-raped by me and DLD, plus a few freinds from here, like still and supra, they might fancy a DIG.
EXCELENT POST!
I was watching a video the other day from monsters of cock (the guy with the big stick) anyway, there was a video titled 14 inches measured. I was like, I guess my assumptions on this guy were wrong (I pegged him to be about 8.5"). I was watching the video and low and behold this girl actually measured him, the measurement was 8" and the girth was 6. I just found it obsured that the video was entitled 14".
Technically speaking, they did measure 8 + 6 being 14 for you nonmath people :P . That bastard in the video is sooooooooo skinny, i honestly thought he easily had a 7 inch girth.
btw DLD, did they measure him bp or npb? if its bp he has my size which would blow my mind.
Bigd5903
03-07-04, 04:29 PM
Girls girls girls, who need um? I am turning homo at the end of the month.
Send an application form with stats and a LARGE photo to DLDs HOME address.
The winner will get ass-raped by me and DLD, plus a few freinds from here, like still and supra, they might fancy a DIG.
That would be ouch :balling:
REDZULU2003
03-07-04, 08:01 PM
Wheres the video of that skinny cunt getting measured? I cant belive hes 8X6 ...ONLY that, he looked AT LEAST around 6.5 inches girth .... maybe he had a BAD pump day? lol
blue1214198203
03-07-04, 08:30 PM
its funny how girls talk about penis size, its seems like its just like when guys are 14 yrs old and talk about all the stuff they would do to a girl, but in reality theyd shoot before they got their pants off.
i mean if women really wanted 9 and 10 inches and truly seeked it out thered be a lot more bowlegged women walking around. i mean seriously, at and above 8 inches can cause some serious pain from what i hear.
doublelongdaddy
03-07-04, 10:01 PM
i mean if women really wanted 9 and 10 inches and truly seeked it out thered be a lot more bowlegged women walking around.
Oh, thats JENS problem and I thought she had a bum knee:D
Man this is a lot to read!!! I think I will do some lazy's while I do this!!
channel7
03-08-04, 02:04 PM
Why is it that the male pornstars have sex with very small women? I am thinking that when you see them having sex it makes there "Johnsons" bigger. However, some of those dudes have extremely big girths, though.
i mean seriously, at and above 8 inches can cause some serious pain from what i hear.
Hell, 7+ is enough to cause pain for some women (those of shorter stature). I've "bottomed out" in more than one woman in my day and I'm not big (just shy of 8" BPEL). It's nice to know that women really don't have a clue though. Maybe I'm known as 9" in some circles... :P that would be sweet...
Sundown
03-09-04, 07:32 AM
I was watching a video the other day from monsters of cock (the guy with the big stick) anyway, there was a video titled 14 inches measured. I was like, I guess my assumptions on this guy were wrong (I pegged him to be about 8.5"). I was watching the video and low and behold this girl actually measured him, the measurement was 8" and the girth was 6. I just found it obsured that the video was entitled 14".
I thought he was about 9x6 1/2 , although saying that , I can accept 6 because his cock is very flat , its not really cylindrical , its a lot wider then it is thick if you get me.
turkzilla
03-09-04, 02:12 PM
great post...I can't believe that the skinny monster of cock guy is only eight inches...I thought he looked pretty damn big...guess the camera can lie...When i hit my goal of 8 x 6 it'll be that big.
thrillah
03-09-04, 02:32 PM
Great points made by all.
I truly feel that women don't care so much about a long/big cock for sexual purposes as much as they care about using it as a tool to hurt a man or make him feel inadequate. Now I know some will disagree with that, and yeah women are different, there are some that do want just a big dick, but I still feel they use it even more as a tool to make us feel like crap when we piss them off or go our separate ways.
It all boils back down to men on average being way more dominant than women and this is one of those things that can put us in our place and leave us vulnerable when we may piss them off.
bigbutnottoo
03-09-04, 05:32 PM
They can use it to have power over men plus as bragging rites when it comes to their girlfriends.
bigbutnottoo
03-09-04, 05:37 PM
Women arent the only ones who dont know their sizes. Men sure as hell dont either. Well, they might and they might be lying. Still there is always that realm where some people lie but dont even realize it or convince themselves it isnt true. I cant tell you how many times Ive seen some guy say he's 10x7 or whatever, really convinced of it; and then I see a pic and its like the same size as mine ( ~8.25x5.25BP +/-0.125). Guys here are probably the exception because we know about measuring and how to spot the hypsters. But think about it, if a guy thinks hes 10" and he's not, the woman will have any even easier time believing hes 10" ( or 11 or 12).
Even with a fucking ruler and tape measure, they sometimes cant measure . My Ex measured me at 9". I dont know how and I sure as hell didn't say anyhting about it.
One women suggested that all women should measure the width of one of their hands. The average measurement of the width of their hands was 3.5 inches.
This is a smart move. If nothing else this will help a little towards estimating size in porn actors. If a woman's hand is 3.5" in width we can (conservatively) say that a man's hand should be roughly 4" in width (or just take a short survey here so that we'll get a rough average). So whenever we see someone "holding his own" it should be fairly simple to estimate how many "hands worth" of meat they're grabbing... or if some chick's doing the grabbing, same thing. Even if the porn studs are short as hell (which makes any average size look bigger), their hands can't really be much narrower than 3.5". Hmmm....
bigbutnottoo
03-11-04, 10:04 AM
I get your points about hand width but I disagree and think you all have overestimated. If you said each of my hands was 4", then you would guess I have 10" because I can put both of my hands on my shaft and have the whole head and some shaft left over. I am less than 8" NBP.
Each of my hands is closer to 3" and I am not a small guy. I am 6'1 and each of my hands is about 8" long. I am talking about the point in the hand across the four fingers. And keep in mind that when you grip your hand it actually smaller because it is bent, you dont keep your hand flat with an open palm.
When I see a chick grabbing a dick, I give her hand 3", 2 hands equals about 6". So if a girl 2 hands a dick with just the head leftover I say ~8"NBP max. A 10"+ dick would definitely get 3 hands on the shaft.
ok I guess the important thing is here how much can the average chick take inside her? much bigger than that only entitles you to braggin rights with the fellas.
doublelongdaddy
03-11-04, 01:16 PM
So if a girl 2 hands a dick with just the head leftover I say ~8"NBP max. A 10"+ dick would definitely get 3 hands on the shaft.
Unless the guy has a 3" head:D
And keep in mind that when you grip your hand it actually smaller because it is bent, you dont keep your hand flat with an open palm.
True. So are we going to give any guy grabbing his meat, what, 3.5" tops?
bigbutnottoo
03-12-04, 10:21 AM
True. So are we going to give any guy grabbing his meat, what, 3.5" tops?
Yeah, thats probably about right. I would say a range of 3-3.5 (talking about when gripped and measruing accross the fingers, not knuckles/fist); but its good to figure out a max size for the beenfit of the doubt.
doublelongdaddy
04-25-04, 10:26 PM
Yeah, thats probably about right. I would say a range of 3-3.5 (talking about when gripped and measruing accross the fingers, not knuckles/fist); but its good to figure out a max size for the beenfit of the doubt.
When I did the size study on the porn actors I actually allowed up to 4 inches for hand breadth so there was absolutely no chance of underestimation and still people thought some of the date was still too small!
bigbutnottoo
04-26-04, 02:06 PM
When I did the size study on the porn actors I actually allowed up to 4 inches for hand breadth so there was absolutely no chance of underestimation and still people thought some of the date was still too small!
I know. I remember!
erm1981
04-26-04, 10:19 PM
Dam guys....did you know i had an ex girlfriend that claimed she actually measured one of her ex's being 13 inches soft. As soon as she said it i called BS to her. I hate to be lied to like that.
doublelongdaddy
07-26-04, 01:09 AM
Dam guys....did you know i had an ex girlfriend that claimed she actually measured one of her ex's being 13 inches soft. As soon as she said it i called BS to her. I hate to be lied to like that.
How did she measure this cat?
kong1971
07-26-04, 01:58 AM
13? She must have stretched out his balls and measured from there to the top! Women are so full of shit when it comes to size! Don't even worry about it if you wife or girl talks about some dude being bigger than you. I have come to the conclusion that they have absolutely no idea.
EXCELENT POST!
I was watching a video the other day from monsters of cock (the guy with the big stick) anyway, there was a video titled 14 inches measured. I was like, I guess my assumptions on this guy were wrong (I pegged him to be about 8.5"). I was watching the video and low and behold this girl actually measured him, the measurement was 8" and the girth was 6. I just found it obsured that the video was entitled 14".
Man, what an insteresting watch would that be.
Did you find that video on some p2p?
I can't believe he's 8 inches. I'm 7.5 and just starting out with PE and I think it's fun rofl
My goal is about 8.5 in lenght. I think that watching that vid would be some great motivation for a lot of us, getting some perspective on "how big is big".
Would you by chance have any ed2k/emule link for it ? Or file name on kazaa, whatever, I'd really like to convince myself that "that thing" is only 8 inches and that I'll be as long as "that" sooner than expected rofl
Thanks DLD for the dedication and the good vibes...Respect :)
EXCELENT POST!
I was watching a video the other day from monsters of cock (the guy with the big stick) anyway, there was a video titled 14 inches measured. I was like, I guess my assumptions on this guy were wrong (I pegged him to be about 8.5"). I was watching the video and low and behold this girl actually measured him, the measurement was 8" and the girth was 6. I just found it obsured that the video was entitled 14".
That ugly mofo from monsters of cock is 8x6? I want his cock as my final goal (minus the weird mole like thing on his cock). I'm assuming the 8 is NBP. That guy is one of the nastiest looking dudes in porn that I have seen.
doublelongdaddy
07-26-04, 12:55 PM
That guy is one of the nastiest looking dudes in porn that I have seen.
True, but the man got the dick and the chicks and best yet, he gets coin for doing all of this.
doublelongdaddy
09-12-04, 02:23 AM
That ugly mofo from monsters of cock is 8x6? I want his cock as my final goal (minus the weird mole like thing on his cock). I'm assuming the 8 is NBP. That guy is one of the nastiest looking dudes in porn that I have seen.
You were right on with this estimate too. Did you see the pictures of him being measured in PORNO PARADISE?
poonologist
09-12-04, 03:16 AM
Did you see the pictures of him being measured in PORNO PARADISE?
Got a link to that,or the name of the thread?
rofl
prince Albert
09-12-04, 03:25 AM
Im 7 inches NBPEL and my wife no's i do PE,i told her one day that i had finally made it to 8.5 inches and she believed me,she was out drinking with some of her mates one night and she sent me a txt message asking if i would send her mate a picture message to her phone to prove i was 8.5,i sent one and about 6 of them had a look at it and all of them believed i was 8.5 inches.
So any bloke who is 8-8.5 could quite easily pass themselves of as 10 inches.
doublelongdaddy
09-12-04, 11:56 AM
Got a link to that,or the name of the thread?
rofl
Chick Measure the Guy From Monsters of Cock (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12075&highlight=skinny)
poonologist
09-12-04, 12:58 PM
Chick Measure the Guy From Monsters of Cock (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12075&highlight=skinny)
Whoa,you can really see how different angles effect how you perceive size.
It doesnt look all that long when she measures,though nice girth.Then when you see the pics further down he looks alot longer.
Also,that last pic of his face will haunt me as long as i live. :barf:
wrangler7
09-18-04, 01:01 PM
Kinda late to this post but have thought about it many times. I think alot of women or maybe most women gauge their idea of erect size by looking at the whole package, i.e from the bottom of the scrotum sack to the top of the glans. They're not just measuring the pecker in their minds but the entire package when erect starting at the nuts. That's my take on it.
doublelongdaddy
09-18-04, 01:20 PM
I think woman see size in a similar way to men. I think there is always a bit of anxiety when we see someone naked. I also think that the world is programmed to see a penis as small, normal or huge and the measurements that go with these name usually fall into pre-determined numbers. For instance a woman sleeps with a man, in her opinion the guy was huge, she never sleeps with the guy again. As time progresses I think the title huge eventually gets slapped with a number; she may say "He was like 14 inches" even though the guy may have been 7".
WNT2MORE
09-22-04, 01:56 PM
this is funny as shit.
in a past post i wrote that my girls ex husband (and a couple of boyfriends) were hung like john holmes.so last night we get into a "penis size discussion",and i get a little curious and pick up this ladies shaving gel can,and say "you mean it was this big"? she takes the can rolls it in her hand eyin it up,and says "no,they werent quite as long as this,and none were as thick either".now keep in mind that all this time ive been thinkin her ex husband(who was the "biggest" guy she'd ever been with) was hung like john holmes(or bigger)...anyway the can is 6 3/4 girth,and 8 3/4 long (lol,i cant believe i'm measuring the "girth" of a can)...the bottom line of this story is here i am thinkin i could pe for 50 years and not get as big as her ex.and i find out he wasnt even 9"....shit man,that put me back in the running.those are attainable sizes.my goal is 8 x 6.5 so my vote is women dont know shit about guessin size,buuuuuut i thought the can was at least 10 " myself :)
I thought you guys might be interested in this: actual female pornstars talking about male performers' dick sizes. Just read thru the thread patiently, and you will have some interesting revelations. FYI, this forum is where porn industry insiders gather to informally discuss porn (talent, production, fan feedback, etc.).
http://www.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=45299/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/45299.htm
doublelongdaddy
10-15-04, 03:01 PM
I thought you guys might be interested in this: actual female pornstars talking about male performers' dick sizes. Just read thru the thread patiently, and you will have some interesting revelations. FYI, this forum is where porn industry insiders gather to informally discuss porn (talent, production, fan feedback, etc.).
http://www.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=45299/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/45299.htm
Wow, that is crazy! I never knew a board like this existed. I gotta spend some time reading those threads.
Wow, that is crazy! I never knew a board like this existed. I gotta spend some time reading those threads.
So what's your take on the claims of some of these pornstars?
brianrex
11-04-04, 10:31 AM
Well, speaking as a black man, 24 years old, I was attracted to this site b/c I was thinking about getting a little larger. I have never practiced any form of PE and I am currently anywhere between 7.6-8.0 inches long and about 5.3 inches around. Let me also add that I am 6 foot 5 and 325 lbs. Needless to say that my 7 and a half looks relatively smaller on me in the mirror. It wasn't until a girl grabs it and I see it in her hand, mouth, or whatever that I realized I had pretty good size. Plus, i am a grower. When flacid I am about 5 inches (but because I'm so big, it looks like 2 or 3 inches to me). I wanted to have a longer flacid length, more girth etc... Now I realize that I am big enough and besides that, none of my lovers have ever complained about my sex or size.
As for the black stereotypes, these are ages old, and I do think that as a whole it is probably true about the size myth. Need some proof--look at the average size of a black woman's hips, thighs and her ass. On average, black women are overwhelmingly the thickest women out there, so if this is true, it makes sense that we, as black men are naturally larger in order to be able to mate. (some positions would be impossible for a 4 inch guy with a super thick black woman). But there are always exeptions. More than anything, I think women are attracted to black men because of our confidence (in most cases). If you come in the bedroom and tell her your going to knock the bottom out, she's gonna get very excited, but if you are insecure--any woman can sense this-- before long she'll be looking for someone else.
Also, I think there is another issue that gets lost in the size myth--more often than not black men have good sexual rhythm. This stems from a non--sexual rhythm that is a part of our culture. Sexual rhythm is what can help get a woman off vaginally. We all talk about Mandingo or Lex and we want to be their alleged sizes, bt ask any woman, white black or green who they want to be with and most will say the same thing--Mr. Marcus.
Mr. Marcus is obviously smaller in size but has great confidence in himself and great sexual rhythm. Sure, he isn't small either--he's got good size, but it just goes to show that it doesn't take an abnormal cock to get some chick off, good size and rhythm go a long way.
I'm 6-3, 230, not as big as you are, but I definitely feel you on the body size point. It's all relative. If you have a larger frame, your piece tends to look smaller, all things equal. Because women don't live with dicks between their legs everyday like we do, they don't obsess over how many hand widths long a dick is, how far it stretches to someone's navel, etc., etc., etc. So they are just not very good at estimating length. In my experience, they are even less good at estimating thickness in terms of numbers. It's all about how it feels to them, and they may just attach a number to it because the number represents "big," "small" or "average" in their minds. Probably has very little to do with what the ruler says.
Molly Jones
11-04-04, 09:54 PM
I read the thread on this all the way back, and as a woman who does know sizes I'd like to jump in here. My hand from the base of my palm to the end of my middle finger measures 6 1/2 inches. When I snug the base of my palm into the base of a man's penis (which I always do) and measure up from there I can get a pretty close inch size estimate. Because I have been sexually active and have had many partners I do have a good idea of men's penis sizes, first hand, and 6" erect I would say is probably about average, seven being delightful. The biggest variations are in girth (erect) and maybe head size and shape. But take into consideration here the fact that women's vagina LENGTHS are different, too. Just like some women have a short or long torso, some have short or long vaginal canals and may THINK this or that guy is ten inches because he hits bottom and hurts.... but maybe they haven't actually ever measured. And, if a woman's uterus is tipped to the side instead of straight on, there is some extra play room in there. I have a tipped uterus and like to play with 8 1/2 inch men, but after I'm warmed up and relaxed I can (and have) taken a 10 inch man all the way, but that was because he was slow and gentle and we worked up to all the way in. Some jerk who is violent and careless would kill most any woman with nine inches. So the point jclark246 made about rhythm and confidence is excellent, because technique is imperative. Length is nice and sounds good chatting around the watercooler at work but hey, girth is way more fun and that's why I appreciate REDZULU's pic so much, his girth is awesome. Supra looks balanced with length and girth. Just don't say that ALL women don't know size, some of us do. And we appreciate what you guys are going through to improve yourselves....it's impressive how much you are working towards and hitting your goals. And keep up the photo posts, makes my day!
I'm 6-3, 230, not as big as you are, but I definitely feel you on the body size point. It's all relative. If you have a larger frame, your piece tends to look smaller, all things equal. Because women don't live with dicks between their legs everyday like we do, they don't obsess over how many hand widths long a dick is, how far it stretches to someone's navel, etc., etc., etc. So they are just not very good at estimating length. In my experience, they are even less good at estimating thickness in terms of numbers. It's all about how it feels to them, and they may just attach a number to it because the number represents "big," "small" or "average" in their minds. Probably has very little to do with what the ruler says.
brianrex
11-04-04, 11:00 PM
I read the thread on this all the way back, and as a woman who does know sizes I'd like to jump in here. My hand from the base of my palm to the end of my middle finger measures 6 1/2 inches. When I snug the base of my palm into the base of a man's penis (which I always do) and measure up from there I can get a pretty close inch size estimate. Because I have been sexually active and have had many partners I do have a good idea of men's penis sizes, first hand, and 6" erect I would say is probably about average, seven being delightful. The biggest variations are in girth (erect) and maybe head size and shape. But take into consideration here the fact that women's vagina LENGTHS are different, too. Just like some women have a short or long torso, some have short or long vaginal canals and may THINK this or that guy is ten inches because he hits bottom and hurts.... but maybe they haven't actually ever measured. And, if a woman's uterus is tipped to the side instead of straight on, there is some extra play room in there. I have a tipped uterus and like to play with 8 1/2 inch men, but after I'm warmed up and relaxed I can (and have) taken a 10 inch man all the way, but that was because he was slow and gentle and we worked up to all the way in. Some jerk who is violent and careless would kill most any woman with nine inches. So the point jclark246 made about rhythm and confidence is excellent, because technique is imperative. Length is nice and sounds good chatting around the watercooler at work but hey, girth is way more fun and that's why I appreciate REDZULU's pic so much, his girth is awesome. Supra looks balanced with length and girth. Just don't say that ALL women don't know size, some of us do. And we appreciate what you guys are going through to improve yourselves....it's impressive how much you are working towards and hitting your goals. And keep up the photo posts, makes my day!
Molly, what can I say...I definitely stand corrected. You know how to size up a dick for sure! rofl
copper_handshak
11-05-04, 12:16 AM
Sexul rythm huh. Next time Ill break out my metronome :-)
Molly Jones
11-05-04, 11:44 AM
Sexul rythm huh. Next time Ill break out my metronome :-)
Good music in the background with a slow beat works better....
Spektrum
11-05-04, 04:47 PM
Wheres the video of that skinny cunt getting measured? I cant belive hes 8X6 ...ONLY that, he looked AT LEAST around 6.5 inches girth .... maybe he had a BAD pump day? lol
Skinny people are bastards. They don't have to work as hard to look big. A guy with an 8x6er that is 5'7" and 130 pounds on camera would look like a 6' 150 pound guy with a 10x7. Good example? Mandingo. The guy is huge, no doubt, but his build makes him look 2x bigger.
Being skinny kicks ass, haha
I agree that women are clueless.
bigbutnottoo
11-07-04, 02:11 PM
Skinny people are bastards. They don't have to work as hard to look big. A guy with an 8x6er that is 5'7" and 130 pounds on camera would look like a 6' 150 pound guy with a 10x7. Good example? Mandingo. The guy is huge, no doubt, but his build makes him look 2x bigger.
Being skinny kicks ass, haha
6' 150 pounds is still a skinny bastard. It may even be skinnier than 5'7 130.
quijjiboo
12-07-04, 06:13 PM
I was talking with this girl the other day about does size matter. She was giving me the same tired stories saying no it doesn't matter,
"I slept with this guy last summer, he was massive, like 10", I couldn't fit it in my mouth, and he sucked in bed"
then her boyfriend "he's got the smallest dick I've ever seen, it's about 6" (wtf?)"
is so great in bed. First off since when was 6" small? (she must be talking about NBP here). If you probably scaled down these sizes an inch or so then it would make sense to me. Also, she cheated on her 6" boyfriend with the 10" monster, big surprise there, so much for size doesn't matter lol.
ElGeorgio
12-07-04, 07:28 PM
Girls girls girls, who need um? I am turning homo at the end of the month.
Send an application form with stats and a LARGE photo to DLDs HOME address.
The winner will get ass-raped by me and DLD, plus a few freinds from here, like still and supra, they might fancy a DIG.
So you are telling us Red, is that if we are in the shower with you, just don't bend down to pick up the soap, or one might find that somthing has been slipped into the rear cavity.
ElGeorgio
12-07-04, 07:37 PM
My friend from the Havana, has got such a large dick that he has to ware baggy paints all the time, When he wares a swim suit his bulge is at least 3" that is if he is in a flacid state. He cannont ware a swim suite if he has a an erection. Most women go berserk when they see his cock. 90% of the women he dates refuses to have sex with guy.
What's up people,
I was just reading the post and I must say that we are looking at size too much. The winner of the game is the one who can get his lady so aroused in the mind that everytime he touches her she shivers. I only have 7in but when I get down with a lady my focus is having her go through those convulsions and the only way I get there is by keeping the coochi wet and spending the time. The only way you keep the coochi wet is by entering the head. How? Look into her eyes while you are on top. Kiss the back of her neck in doggystyle. When trading positions bite her on her ass cheeks. Do what ever but keep her focus on the feeling. Now keep in mind that everytime I go I can't get her to shake, rattle and roll but she knows that right here and right now this dick is hers.
All in all fuck the size but more so fuck the shit out of your girl. Also, learn to dance because when you use your hips you don't need your lips. rofl
Peace
Nos
quijjiboo
12-08-04, 03:06 PM
What's up people,
I was just reading the post and I must say that we are looking at size too much. The winner of the game is the one who can get his lady so aroused in the mind that everytime he touches her she shivers. I only have 7in but when I get down with a lady my focus is having her go through those convulsions and the only way I get there is by keeping the coochi wet and spending the time. The only way you keep the coochi wet is by entering the head. How? Look into her eyes while you are on top. Kiss the back of her neck in doggystyle. When trading positions bite her on her ass cheeks. Do what ever but keep her focus on the feeling. Now keep in mind that everytime I go I can't get her to shake, rattle and roll but she knows that right here and right now this dick is hers.
All in all fuck the size but more so fuck the shit out of your girl. Also, learn to dance because when you use your hips you don't need your lips. rofl
Peace
Nos
This is a good post, but it's been debated many times before. Nobody is saying that size is all-important. You've got have skillZ like what you've mentioned. But most people who do PE rightfully argue that having both the big dong AND skillZ is best.
REDZULU2003
03-05-10, 04:28 PM
bump
doublelongdaddy
03-05-10, 06:01 PM
This is a good post, but it's been debated many times before. Nobody is saying that size is all-important. You've got have skillZ like what you've mentioned. But most people who do PE rightfully argue that having both the big dong AND skillZ is best.
Thats why we have MOS:)
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