The truth about facebook

[lazyhanger]

I stumbled over a video a few days ago and it really shocked me. I personally don't have a facebook account, because I'm simply against the philosophy of the leaders of this website. To give you an example, there was a Greek doctor who founded a group in facebook. This group was actually made to collect donations for the victims in Palestine and to inform people about the actions there. Well, after only a week this group had 120.000 followers (dunno how this is called in facebook, maybe "Likes" or smth like that). Note that the author of the group didn't even mention anything antisemitic, he only criticized the actions of the Israelis because he knew what happened there. Anyway, the group got locked and the user profile of this doctor got locked. Not deleted, only locked, so that all the data that he posted on facebook stays there forever. To clarify what that means, if this doctor someday wants to participate in politics, it is 100% sure that someone searches him on facebook. Because of the fact that his "dirty" data is still there, this somebody will distribute his information and so there won't be any chances for the doctor to achieve his target. Thanks to facebook.
I'm not antisemitic, I'm just wondering what the fuck is going on there and this website has over 500.000.000 USERS !!! I mean come on guys, WAKE UP! It may sound a bit melodramatic, but facebook is actually a tool to control people, and the result of it is also a lot of money.
I'm actually so pissed about this topic because I have my fellows trying to convince me all the time that I should make a facebook account and 50% of their private life is lived in facebook. Of course all of this is supported by the media "facebook is so practical", "facebook makes intelligent" and all kind of bullshit I hear and read about the mentioned website. Just wanted to throw this somewhere because I can't keep it anymore...
Thank you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpLNlSKugHw

The video that I found of this particular example is only in Greek. I'll try to find a version with engl subtitles to post it here.

[doublelongdaddy]

I am so tired of people using Anti-Semitism as a privilege to rape, kill, rob and pillage the world.

[stillwantmore2]

Don't forget just recently Facebook was under big time heat for allowing NAMBLA to host groups on their site. North American Man-Boy Love Alliance. Pedophiles, men who think it's perfectly fine and normal to desire and have sex with "consenting" children. FB CLAIMS they knew nothin of the sort was going on and that they fully support law enforcement, bla bla bla. BULL, they only took action when it made the mass media.

[REDZULU2003]

I think Facebook and other similar sites such as My space but more so with Facebook have become so huge over the years they now have an 'occult' status, in that they seem to control peoples data. The privacy policy changes regularly and you need to know legal jargon to understand some of it. As well as this when you want your account terminating, like I do, Facebook actually don't remove it 100% from the database, in-case you want to comeback! All it takes is for you to log in again and da da your back!

Facebook has become too powerful and it needs to stop. FAR TOO MUCH information is cached within, stored for whoever to see. This can be a double edged sword for good and bad. Example being terrorists who use it, which they most often don't but if they do the convo's can be tracked with ease and the same said with filth who mess with kids. Downside is that you could post something on an ex's wall like ''You bitch I hate you'' and it ends up escalating to a point that someone either gets a smack in the mouth, arrested or losses their job.

[Shion]

Facebook is for advertising, pure and simple. They have low standards for who can post on their site because that way not only can they throw ads at you on the page, but advertisers primarily can gather information about you and contact their cronies to throw ads at just about anything you provide on the site. You think you're providing this info so people can contact you easily but really what does that do? It was originally meant to be a universal advanced phonebook but now it's...something else.

It's true that your information can be easily collected by that site, but hey; you remember that really old internet rule back when e-mail was a new thing? "Never give out any information on the internet you don't want the whole world to see". So don't. And yeah nowadays everyone makes a slip, but the best thing to do is to stick to your principles and not let some employer indirectly tell you that they decided to go with someone else because you gave a strong opinion in your status updates.

On another note, If people stopped being so judgmental all the time we wouldn't think of frozen accounts as "dirty data". If people had backbones and confronted others about the data they "gathered" like stalkers, we could make more informed decisions about the details of one's life if we really wanted to know who someone was. Then again it's easy to infer who a person is IF DEY TYPE LIEK DIS AND DONT MAKE DEMSLEVES LUK LIEK DEY GRADUMATED FROM A HIGHSHCOOL R SUMTIN. But come on, it's like...I'm just applying to stock some shelves at Target and get paid a decent wage for a decent day's work. Do my life philosophies REALLY matter that much to you?

[8InchMIKE]

Call me paranoid if you want but DO NOT have a facebook account nor any other social network for that matter...and i don't have ANYTHING to hide either.

I believe people are just asking for trouble by just dropping every little thing they do, buy, think or whatever all over the internet.

All that data can ( and is ) used buy less scrupulous people to actually bad intent. Thieves can find out if you are at home, on vacation, in a club or disco, a bar or even at the cinema cause people just pour that kind of info in there for anyone to read. They WILL know your habits, your places of interest, your preferences at every level and WILL use this data against you if they want.

Also, i consider it to be some kind of database for employers and governments alike to control you or even to just "rate" you in some shady way for their gain.

It can destroy relationships, marriages and even be misinterpreted by anyone leading to bad things altogether.

I choose to be the odd one out, not because i have skeletons in my closet, but because i choose to remain private in my life and life choices.

Love the outdoors too much to be wasting time behind a screen typing away WHILE NOT enjoying real life as opposed to cyber-life.

Some will state that it is a sure way to get sex...i say get out of the house and you shall find it EVERYWHERE, that's how a real man would do it, get yourself out there, expose yourself ( in a limited way ) but enjoy the REAL life all around us OUTSIDE the house...

Just my 2 cents here,

Peace,

Mike

[savageblue]

"Never give out any information on the internet you don't want the whole world to see".

Enough said.

[REDZULU2003]

Or use false information

[lazyhanger]

But this is not the sense of facebook. The website actually urges you to enter your true information, as they kinda advertise with "finding lost friends" and how should someone find a lost friend if there were only false information? The more I read about this website the more I understand that this is just a spy website. And this happens in the 21st century. Not in the 40s nor the 50s and not in the old Eastern Germany where every second citizen was a spy. This is happening today! 500.000.00 victims are being spied and nothing is happening against it. And then people are questioning how the cruel facets of our history could happen...

[REDZULU2003]

What I mean is you use disinformation like spys do. This is what I have done on facebook for years. False DOB, false locations, fake email etc etc. I only use it to communicate with those I know and now I use better alternatives so my account will be terminated soon and I'll also be requesting they permanently erase it from the database under the European data protection laws that I'm protected by, which give me the right to request information about me from organisations to be erased or for me to see it all.

[keepingitbig]

I'm thinking about deactivating my account there. I don't see the use of it anymore except a few folks I know and my cousin who talks to me. People use it to brag, or show-off anything nowadays. Don't give a fuck to be honest.

[REDZULU2003]

Try Pidder (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?60818-Tired-of-Facebook-try-PIDDER-social-networking-based-on-privacy!!!) ... Facebook has turned into a hungry monster that will sell your soul if it has to.

[REDZULU2003]

This site http://www.reclaimprivacy.org/ aims to help those who use Facebook by informing them of privacy settings they can use and how much information is being sent out on Facebook about them.

[MoreGains123]

Keeping in touch with people you can't be bothered to call or visit is actually a complete waste of your time. Facebook is yet another internet way to waste your life doing nothing. Like texting, it actually takes more time than traditional methods when you add it all up.

All of these bigger websites have ZERO regard for your information. You are revenue in the form of advertising demographics, period. For example, Adobe offers Free Trials of its software products. But they do so by using an EXE "downloader" which was written by Akamai - the most notorious of the internet privacy invaders. Deep in the Adobe "trial agreement" it states the Akamai program will remain on your machine to track and report website visits and other actions. So Adobe makes money off the trial by pushing an Akamai program into your machine. Then Akamai makes money tracking and categorizing you for advertisers. What's really disgusting about most of these companies is that these are often Liberal-minded people who will be the first to bitch about government intrustion, but don't mind fucking you in the ass if it fattens their wallet.

Try buying an HP or Compaq PC: totally loaded with dozens of programs that report on you. AMD has even gotten into the game with their "chip set drivers" - why a chip set driver needs web access is beyond me...

[REDZULU2003]

I dont use any social networking any-more. Use software like PeerGuardian or IP blockers that use lists of IPs that update often of such companies like Akamai who I have heard about and than when they try to submit a connection in or out of your machine it gets blocked. Its like I have already mentioned in another thread on using the standard ISP DNS on your machine, which is a big mistake as they are nearly always slower, buggy and can spy on you much easier than configuring it yourself to a DNS server you wish to use.

[MoreGains123]

What about using the hosts file? I've gotten really good luck just doing that.

[REDZULU2003]

I used to use the hosts file but it became allot of messing about and once it gets to a certain size can decrease the speed of the connection as it needs to check from that. Using another DNS server leapfrogs it all anyway. If you use a good one and I mention many in a thread in this section on them, you will be protected from the shit trojan sites, fraud sites etc already without needing to play with the hosts file.

Glad you brought it up though because I got about 4 links somewhere with lists people update on the web all the time that I'll post here along with free software from Blue tack Internet Solutions which organises your hosts file like a dream.

My advice though is only use it for small things and do change your default ISP DNS, even with the hosts modifications the ISP has all the search queries running through their DNS banks. measures it looks like lets say your surfing a secured site

[REDZULU2003]

Heres (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?58192-Have-a-secure-DNS-(Domain-Name-Server)-and-its-EASIER-than-you-thought!)that thread I mentioned

[REDZULU2003]

Facebook is not free, its harvesting its users data via advertisements and sorting this data for its money making schemes. Its free in the loose sense, you don't actually use money but your trading your privacy when you use it. Be very careful. You only have to look at the latest Wiki leaks on all the spying done across the world recently within I.T to get a sense of what Facebook would be capable of, that and Google are big players as-well.

[dickerschwanz]

Facebook is not free, its harvesting its users data via advertisements and sorting this data for its money making schemes. Its free in the loose sense, you don't actually use money but your trading your privacy when you use it. Be very careful. You only have to look at the latest Wiki leaks on all the spying done across the world recently within I.T to get a sense of what Facebook would be capable of, that and Google are big players as-well.

Its a thin line to get paranoid but when you think about it is scary.
They collect every information you give through social media, google searches, mobile tracking, mobile conversations and everything else.
When they combine it into one file they know like everything about you including your penis size :D.

With todays technologie where a government/military like the U.S can kill any person on earth via remote controled drones it has dangerous implications.
What if some crazy facists gain control over it and programm the drones to kill everyone that is labeled through the collected information as a enemy(cause he is for peace, communism, likes dogs or whatever)

[doublelongdaddy]

Facebook is like a social video game...I play it once in a while but I realize it is all fake

[MoreGains123]

Facebook is losing popularity. People are starting to realize they are actually less connected to other people. For example, long-distance friends who used to talk frequently used Facebook instead. But they are less close now. At best, Facebook can only supplement interaction - it can't be the interaction. Of course once you realize this, you realize email can handle the job and you don't need Facebook at all.

[doublelongdaddy]

Facebook is losing popularity. People are starting to realize they are actually less connected to other people. For example, long-distance friends who used to talk frequently used Facebook instead. But they are less close now. At best, Facebook can only supplement interaction - it can't be the interaction. Of course once you realize this, you realize email can handle the job and you don't need Facebook at all.

In my opinion Facebook represents a place where connections are made for people who no longer can relate to the real world:) A connection is a connection regardless if it is Facebook, face to face or plugging into a wall...a connection is a way for 2 or more sources to be in one place at the same time and exchange information. They never needed Facebook or Face to Face, the connection can be made in millions of other ways. I personally use Facebook to check up on my Children, look for bits of irrelevant news to waste some time and post pictures of my artwork so it is in one place. The information is in me, it is only when I make a connection that I can exchange it, the connection matters little what matters is that it is made. Without a place to plug a computer or plug in a battery our connections seem to be limited but in reality they can still connect, they just need to be more creative and think more like a human than a electrical signal. There is a time and place for socializing online but when it becomes an addiction it gets sick. I spend my time online doing one thing, working to help everyone I can become more aware and more empowered. I don't need to see you MoreGains to love you and know you, I only need to connect with you. I would love a world that connects people to people in the real sense but the internet is making this less and less important and eventually, when something is not used it becomes obsolete. I practice connecting with people all day so I can remember this skill. If people continue to make their connections exclusively through an electrical connection they will lose the skills of socializing in the real world and eventually they will become part of the connection they rely on so desperately and they will disappear into the lie that their connection is fooling them with. Online=Information and the exchange of that information
Real Life= Everything

[REDZULU2003]

We fight back! remember as a group we cannot be beaten but one by one yes we become extinct. Many ways exist that make it very difficult indeed to be tracked by technology of any kind. Dont assume the US government or anyone else have all the keys and know all the answers. Be smart online and use LOTS of DISINFORMATION :)

[MoreGains123]

Dont assume the US government or anyone else have all the keys and know all the answers. Be smart online and use LOTS of DISINFORMATION :)
Agree 100%.

[Iwannabig1]

Its all a part of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometrics its already underway and be careful what you say over the phone after 2013.

[REDZULU2003]

Use Facecloak (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?66419-FaceCloak-Protect-user-privacy-on-Facebook) while on Facebook