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This was posted by "SS4JELQ" at Thundersplace.com/forum in the hangers forum.




Bibhanger toe in/toe out/gap settings pics Post #1

Hangers,

A good buddy of mine asked for a bit of clarification about toe in and toe out settings, and given my way with words I thought photos would be a better option.

SS4

HANGER SETTINGS

Gap

The first two photo's show gap.

The top gap shown on the photos should not be too much wider than the bottom gap. In these photos, the 'penis' is actually a piece of wood, so remember that if it was a real penis it would squash up more.


Top gap wider - The lines show how the hanger will grip onto the shaft. To get this, move both adjustment hex nuts closer to the hinge.

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Bottom gap wider - Look at where the stress is now. To get this, put the adjustment hex nuts further away from the hinge.

General - By looking at these photo's you can also see what 'place the shaft low in the head well' means. Close to the hinge, as long as it does not pinch skin. Also, the 2 wingnuts on the outside of the hanger should always be fully tightened.

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Toe

Toe out - The bottom is wider than the top. Most people hang this way I think. I notice less slippage this way but I like to toe in sometimes because my shaft gets narrower towards the head. Usually I like toe out though. The shape of your shaft might make it obvious whether to toe in or out. If it is pretty straight, you might want to either toe out, or neither (so that both hex's are level). Try toe in though, because some people like it.

Bottom gap between the hex's is wider than top.

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Toe out stress

When the hanger is on, this is how the stress will be placed. Although, in the picture the toe out is rather extreme, you get the point. (rear view)

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Toe in - Here the bottom hex is closer to the hinge. If your shaft gets narrower towards the head as mine does, try this way. I find that it can be comfortable, but somedays I got some slippage, so I switched to toe out.

Top gap between hex's is wider than the bottom gap between hex's.

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Toe in stress

Here is what it is like, this is a front view. You can see why this method is more prone to slippage, because if any slight slippage occurs (which can be unavoidable at very high weight), the hanger will eventually slip further. With toe out, if some slippage occurs, the tissues will bunch up because the top is tighter than the bottom. This can be very comfortable, it feels like the hanger is 'anchored' on. (again, this picture shows quite extreme toe in)


In general, it is OK to keep the same settings on your hanger for as long as it is comfortable. I do not change the settings between sessions unless there is a problem. Sometimes I might keep the same settings for a few weeks, sometimes it seems like I need to change something everyday. If you change wrapping material, or use a different type, you might need to change the settings to compensate. Also, after a while of using the same wrap it will begin to get thinner because of the constant pressure. In this case, you can either carry on using the same wrap, where you will probably need to make the hex gaps smaller (but move both by the same amount), or get new wrap, where you may or may not need to change the settings. I recommend using the same wrap unless you get soreness in the shaft from the pressure of the hanger.

It all sounds very confusing, but after a while of practice you will know what to do automatically.

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rolo,

>in your opinion do the settings impact upon gains?<

They impact upon comfort. If you can't hang comfortably you wont gain, since you wont be able to do as much work due to the discomfort. So I suppose they do impact upon gains in an indirect way.

SS4