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Jason1
06-23-04, 11:57 PM
I realize that I have flappy skin at the base that makes me look smaller than I really am. I think Red has this. What can I do?

Godsize
06-24-04, 12:28 AM
I wonder if a plastic surgeon could "nip & tuck" a bad turkey neck??

I've got a bit of a turkey neck goin on too. Most of it I think I had before I started any Penis Enlargement. Hopefully my cock will "grow into it".

The best thing to do would be to just keep growing your cock until the extra skin is unnoticeable.

kong1971
06-24-04, 12:51 AM
Turkey neck is created when Penis Enlargementers continuously stretch their skin forward, or by bad circumcisions that remove so much of the skin of the penis that the scrotum is pulled upwards by tension. You can have the excess surgically removed, or you can do some foreskin restoration to add skin and relieve the tension that is pulling your scrotum up.

Godsize
06-24-04, 01:21 AM
"...bad circumcisions that remove so much of the skin of the penis that the scrotum is pulled upwards by tension."

Is there such a thing as a circumcision being done that tightly? If so, and the balls were riding high on the hog, so to speak, I don't think there'd be any turkey neck present at all since the skin would be so tight. Wouldn't it?

"...you can do some foreskin restoration to add skin and relieve the tension that is pulling your scrotum up."

In foreskin restoration, aren't you pulling your shaft skin foward over the glans and taping it there? When an infant is circumcized, isn't the foreskin pulled foward and snipped or something? So then wouldn't doing "FR" result in making the balls "ride high" on the shaft as in a "tight circumcision", thus creating a turkney neck like you said it would? If you're already circumcized, there's much less skin to work with, so by stretching it to regenerate a foreskin wouldn't you just be replicating the "high balls" effect of a tight circumcision? Even if it did, I can't see how a turkey neck would be created since all that skin would be tight.

To not get a turkey neck, I don't see how stretching more skin could be an answer. I think the best way to keep it from worsening would be to "tie back" your scrotum with a soft string or one of those ponytail thingies to keep that skin outta the exercises and keep it from being pulled into a jelq stroke.

What do you think, kong?

kong1971
06-24-04, 01:39 AM
Godsize, next time you have a woody, grab your penis and pull the skin forward, toward your glans as far as possible. Pull it far enough and your scrotum will come forward with it. This is what its like for someone who was tightly circumcised when they get an erection. Now, grab it and pull the skin back away from the glans as far as possible. Your scrotum, you will find, has moved back into position, where it is supposed to be. This simulates a couple inches of added skin from foreskin restoration techniques.

To restore your foreskin with taping, you do pull the skin forward over the glans and tape it there. The tension of your penis pushing forward against the restricting tape causes tissue expansion to occur. Your skin will lengthen in an attempt to alleviate the tension. When you stop taping, you find that you have new skin, which will give you a little more slack and allow your scrotum to move back to where it is supposed to be.

Your ideas for preventing turkey neck are spot on however. Tissue expansion does not prevent turkey neck. It is only one possible cure for it if you already have it.

wants9
06-24-04, 09:56 AM
I've been wearing a home-made ball stretcher for about the past three days (during the day only), and I'm already seeing a slight improvment. It keeps the turkey neck stationary so it can't pull up when you stretch. It also emphasizes the turkey neck when pulling your balls down during testicle health.

Jason1
06-24-04, 10:22 AM
It isn't turkey neck. It is hard to explain.

wants9
06-24-04, 10:24 AM
It isn't turkey neck. It is hard to explain.
Is it kind of a flesh "collar" that goes all the way around your base?

Jason1
06-24-04, 06:04 PM
It is weird. It is mostly down by my balls but isn't turkey neck. It is kind of like my sack starts far up my shaft.

bigtyivier
06-24-04, 11:03 PM
wants9, wat home amde ball stretcher did u make?? got pics?? tell em about it i really want a bigger sack hang dude

wants9
06-24-04, 11:20 PM
wants9, wat home amde ball stretcher did u make?? got pics?? tell em about it i really want a bigger sack hang dude
Yves is the one that actually came up with the idea. Just measure how much you can stretch your scrotum, from the base of your dick to the top of your balls, then cut up an old leather wallet to that width. I just glued some velcro to the appropriate spots to act as the fastener. I figured they'd be easier to install than a snap, and there's absolutly no concern about metal detectors... at least until I install some copper and zinc strips so it acts like another ROP. That's another of Yves ideas, btw.

Anyways, that's what I did and plan on doing.

kong1971
06-25-04, 02:14 AM
Jason, that sounds like turkey neck to me. If I stretch my flaccid out as far as possible, my scrotum attaches to the shaft about 3 1/2" up. It's really gross, and makes my penis look smaller than it actually is. Turkey neck is not like your entire balls are hanging from the attachment point, but there is a kind of flappy webbing that goes from the shaft to the sack. My balls hang where they're supposed to, it's just that the sack attaches too far up my dick.

Godsize
06-25-04, 02:20 AM
"Turkey neck is not like your entire balls are hanging from the attachment point, but there is a kind of flappy webbing that goes from the shaft to the sack. My balls hang where they're supposed to, it's just that the sack attaches too far up my dick."

I couldn't have described it better myself. That definition is perfect, kong!

Godsize
06-25-04, 02:51 AM
By the way, do you think that the turkey neck is something that'll be stretched to a certain point, then eventually stop spreading? Like, will your dick eventually "outgrow" the turkey neck?

Do you think that if you increased your base girth considerably, that you could almost "fill out" some of the excess skin around the base/scrotum? Or perhaps just increasing your overall girth to make your cock appear larger than your turkey neck?

The turkey neck I got now would look fine if I made my cock longer (which I am - through hanging), but then how would I stop the T.N. from growing along with it? Even gaining girth would be good as long as you can just enlarge the penis and not that excess skin as well.

That's the trick I guess... trying to find a way to gain around your TN.

My only hope is that my cock will get past a certain point of bigness that having a turkey neck won't even matter anymore. My other hope is that my TN has gotten as long as it's gonna get, and my dick can take over in the growth department now.

The only thing I can think of to try to hinder TN growth would be to tie back the scrotum with a soft elastic band to keep the TN out of the exercises. But after I thought about this further, I realized that "tying back" wouldn't work. The reason why I think it wouldn't work is there would still be loose skin along the bottom of the shaft that's attached to the turkey neck that isn't being held back by the elastic band. What would happen is if you did a jelq routine while tied back, you'd start to stretch whatever TN that's left on the shaft-side of the elastic band, forming a second turkey neck. Imagine what that would look like?!? Then it would really start looking like a turkey's neck then!!

Well, let's hope all that won't happen. We'll have to start calling it "Iguana Neck" then. Damn.

kong1971
06-25-04, 03:04 AM
Iguana neck. That would be nasty!

Actually, I have seen clinical pictures of turkey neck extended all the way to the glans. It was fixed surgically, but the incision went from glans to scrotum, and it looked like a Frankendick afterwards.

I think the only real cure for it is tissue expansion. Either hang weight like Supra, to pull it downwards, or do FR. You have to do something to increase the length of your shaft skin and push that flap backwards toward where it is supposed to be.

From my own personal observations, I think I could eliminate mine within 6 months if all I did was FR, but I Penis Enlargement too and every time I create some extra shaft tissue I stretch my dick out and take up the slack. Not complaining, mind you. I will deal with the turkey neck after I grow my dick as big as I want it to be.

Godsize
06-25-04, 03:15 AM
Are you sure that turkey neck is ballskin pulled foward, and not actual shaft skin that has been stretched? I think it's a combination of both.

My turkey neck ain't too bad. Sometimes it's really obvious, like when I'm taking a piss and there's a mirror in front of me, I can see it. But if my cock is hard, or if my balls are semi-tight/semi-loose, the skin is totally minimized.

kong1971
06-25-04, 08:06 AM
Rule of thumb: if it's wrinkled and hairy, its ballsack. If its smooth and hairless, its shaftskin.