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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    most aromatase inhibiters must first be metabolised by the liver before they work. That means they only work systemically, not locally. 6-oxo may be an exception to that.

    as for the vin diesel look, he is not bald. He has a slightly rased hair line, and is shaved. His hair roots make his face look good. If he lost the hair roots, especially on top, he'd look a lot worse. So don't be so quick to give up the fight.

    As for DHT and hair, DHT can hurt all hair on your head. Even the sides (horse shoe) gets thinner with age, but just does not go away completely at normal DHT levels.

    DHT only benefits body hair and beard hair. The eyebrows are uneffected, the horseshoe is resistant, and the top, vertex, and front are very susceptible to DHT. Believe it or don't, but it is well understood scientific fact. Yes, DHT does not kill the hair directly. There are other steps along the way which I won't bother listing here. But DHT is what starts the cascade. If you castrate yourself today, you would never lose another hair. Period.



    Back to the aromatase. It ups DHT two ways. By reducing estrogen levels, your body fights to restore estrogen levels by making more testosterone, since estrogen is made from testosterone. The other way it makes more DHT is testosterone in the tissues is not made into estrogen, so more can be made into DHT.
    But if your penis does not have much 5-alpha reductase type II in it, it won't be able to make DHT from the testosterone. Your blood DHT levels will climb because DHT will be leaking from other tissues, but this will not get to your penis as much as you want it to. Yes, the aromatase inhibitor will help you some, but not as much as topical DHT on your penis would. And your side effects would be fantastic compared to topical DHT. I'm sure you'd go bald fast with that stuff. Estrogen helps protect your hair from DHT.
    Last edited by HairHormoneExpe; 01-18-09 at 12:10 PM. Reason: adding more.
    Testosterone topicals/injections can shrink your penis because it can be converted to estrogen in your penis. You want DHT.
    6-oxo on your penis might help.
    Proviron/Masteron last too long to have a local effect.
    Natural DHT is quickly broken down in the blood.
    Propecia stops the 5ar2 in your penis from making DHT.
    After puberty, you make less DHT down there, and more on your head.

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    I think finding a way to increase DHT receptor sensitivity is the ticket. That said, I'd rather do it without having to cause a 6 month DHT drought using Propecia. Pezzi said in his book that vitamin D can up-regulate AR (or DHTR) receptors. Get some sun!

    Oh, another important thing Pezzi mentions is the importance of Folates, folic acid and vitamin B12 in the diet. These compounds aid in cell division. I would reckon calcium would be important as well, considering it plays an important role in DNA replication as a substrate which the DNA binds to.
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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    Quote Originally Posted by HairHormoneExpe View Post
    Muscles don't care about DHT. You can't get DHT into your muscle because an enzyme in them breaks it down so fast. Most tissues must make DHT to get an androgenic signal, but not muscle, which just needs testosterone.

    DHT is good for the penis, bad for hair and acne. Unknown needs/effects on other body tissues.

    But if you take oral spiro or flutamine or saw palmetto, those can hurt your muscles because they shut down the androgen receptors, which is what testosterone binds to.

    My gamble with topical DHT is that its effect will mostly be local. Propecia, on the other hand, should really hurt my penis growth. But I can't stop using propecia. I'm already NW4.
    Well, if you are already a NW4, I would just shave it. Not trying to sound like an ass, just personal opinion.

    I've been taking dutasteride for awhile now...and I haven't noticed it hindering my Penis Enlargement gains at all. I've noticed gains while on and off of it. Neither were noticeably quicker/slower than the other.

    Plus, this DHT not effecting muscle? Says who? I have both suppressed systematic DHT and left it alone, and my muscles are much more hard while freeing it up. You can tell bodybuilders that are trying to save their hair and those who are not, and there is a considerable difference in muscle hardness. Guys that are still fighting the hair battle will appear softer.

    Why do you think bodybuilders use heavy DHT based compounds nearing a competition? Not just because they want to grow their beard faster. I do agree that it does promote more hair growth away from the head..most notably facial hair, but to say it has no effect on muscle is silly.

    Although the 3aHSD breaks down most DHT in skeletal muscle, you can still benefit from exogenous DHT. I'm not sure if you were talking about exogenous or endogenous. Now if only we could block 3aHSD as we can 5AR 1&2...

    DHT's effect on the CNS can end up benefiting muscle directly anyway. Muscular strength can take a hit when systematic DHT is nearly eliminated..(even though free testosterone is increased)

    I just wish there was a way to eliminate DHT ONLY in the scalp, without a systematic reduction.

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

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    Good read. Exercising the PC muscles are very good regardless. But got to know your hormones. Adults may benefit from DHT, but not topical testosterone. They already did studies showing topical testosterone does not help adult penises. Actually hurts them because of the estrogen conversion.
    Testosterone topicals/injections can shrink your penis because it can be converted to estrogen in your penis. You want DHT.
    6-oxo on your penis might help.
    Proviron/Masteron last too long to have a local effect.
    Natural DHT is quickly broken down in the blood.
    Propecia stops the 5ar2 in your penis from making DHT.
    After puberty, you make less DHT down there, and more on your head.

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    Hey, I tried my best to read and understand that, but I can't grasp any of it. So Im looking for a striaght forward easy to understand answer.

    Is doing Penis Enlargement going to make me more likely to lost hair on my head?

    Im already losing hair up there and really don't want to lose more.
    My Penis Enlargement program is the beginners routine, and no injections of any kind just stretching, jelqing, tesitcle health, kegels and reverse kegels (once I learn).

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    I don't see any way manual exercises can increase DHT levels. HairHormone weigh in on this?
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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    It gets quite complicated but within certain tissues of the body there are androgen receptors. When an angrogen hormone (dihydrotestosterone) attaches to the receptor it signals instructions to be carried out from within the genes of target cells. DHT is the essential key hormone for sexual health and penis growth and maintainance. Sexual stimulation causes the activation of 5 alpha reductase to convert testosterone into DHT within the penis tissues. More sexual stimulation causes more DHT conversion, because your sex organs need DHT to function at prime. Ever hear of the saying "use it or lose it"? It applies quite well to the penis and associated sexual anatomy. Without sexual stimulation (ever wonder why it's called sexual chemistry) your body drops its conversion of test to DHT, which results in diminished sexual function and developement.

    Gentle manual exercise performed while highly sexual aroused will cause a rapid conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone within the genitals, both external and internal.
    Last edited by sasquatch; 02-08-09 at 12:11 PM. Reason: hind sight

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    Im sorry guys but im lost in the jungle of all this professional names of these hormones .. however i do know about one hormone i need testosterone
    Started with 13,5 cm
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    15.01.2009 measured 17,8 cm
    Doing footlong stretches ONLY

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    Earlier studies of green tea indicated that it decreased testosteron and DHT in rats. However soy was used as a vehicle to administer the green tea into the rats. when they did another study w/o the soy, green tea increased DHT,Testoserone and has a built in aramatose inhibitor.

    Im going to post the links i found as soon as i get them from Pegym.
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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK-ZpFwuWmk
    DHT creme used for genital growth.
    The guy is changing from Girl to guy,so bare with h*s strange apperance.

    But since he have used the cream for 5 weeks, he has grown 1 cm or almost 0.5 inches. Without Penis Enlargement ^^

    http://genderoutlaw.wordpress.com/20...cream-pumping/

    "Gentle manual exercise performed while highly sexual aroused will cause a rapid conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone within the genitals, both external and internal." -Sasquatch

    Could this be why CLAMPING is really effective?
    Last edited by c.phantasy; 06-25-09 at 11:38 AM.

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    Doing core workouts- squats, upper legs, hips and lower abdominal workouts will naturally increase testosterone levels in turn increasing DHT levels. Plus your body creates an optimal dose for itself. It can be difficult to guage if your getting too much or too little for your desired effects with creams and supplements.

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    There was so much info in all those posts, thanks for sharing.

    Can anyone give me the cliff notes? LoL. Is there something that we should all be taking to supplement our Penis Enlargement efforts?

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    Any advice for me,

    Im balding, but Im also Penis Enlargement'ing. Would doing those workouts (core, squats, upper leg, lower abs, etc.) contribute to my balding???

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    when i bought the penis bible he said supplement on tyrosine to increase dopamine which in turn increases testosterone and DHT in the testosterone chain and supplement on choline for better liver function to produce more enzymes or function more effeciently HGH was an imporntant factor he said aswell as PGE-1

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    Hey betterpenis 123,

    Do you have a copy of the penis bible?

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    Good information
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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    GABA is a fat acid

    HGH triggers only the production of IGF-1... The LR3 version has the nice advantage that you may sustain a certain level easily by using it each 12 hours

    Anyway as far as I know HGH and IGF-1 should be injected s.c. and you don't want to do this in an area with thin skin... So use the belly fat or bum cheek fat

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    Very helpful and informative posts. Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: The hormones you need to know

    Having high testosterone and hgh long with good amounts of nitric oxide can exponentially increase penis growth and healing. I recommend everyone to visit anabolicmen website , it has the best infomation for optimizing hormones Along with a good diet obviously i would also incorporate breathing exercises( very important, not only penis enlargement but health) to increases body oxygenation which also speeds up healing and cell division. The breathing exercises allow the user to adapt to more carbon dioxide levels inside the body and improves body oxygenation via the Bohr effect You could learn BUTEYKO or what i use and is better , the Frolov Breathing Device.

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