Wow, this debate will never end will it ? My personal xp if that helps after 2 years of PE and 1 year and a half of BM :
- Gained a little in 7 months of Jelqing/stretching only (about +0,5" length/girth)
- Started using the BM only with the recommended standard usage for 6 months (20 min max, once a day, days off, entering flaccid). Did not see more gains from it(see below my opinion on that)
- Mixed BM and other techniques (clamping / SSJ, Jelqs) after that and started getting a little bit more gain.
My conclusions so far :
1) With the BM you can easily get some permanent +0,5" temp gains if you use it everyday some 15-20 min (your dick gets expanded just because you keep on pumping, which is already nice) + GREAT before sex, period. For me it's already worth its price.
2) I personally think that in order to get actual perm gains with it you need to : a) Enter erect or at least semi erect, NOT flaccid. b) Do harder sessions than the safe recommended ones (i.e : Longer than 20 min a day, in sets of 5-10 min, Harder than just pumping every 5 min). Do it very regularly with some days off, and do it more than once a day if you can. hint : Check Dan_Clizer's results and his threads.
3) I would not stop doing other techniques along (clamping, SSJ, Jelqs), as synergy will help make better gains as RED says (it did for me)
4) There are NO miracles. PE permanent gains are HARD and SLOW to get (they take months/years), but by mixing/adding many things you give yourself the best chance.
Warning : If you're like me, one "result" you're bound to get however, is a dark discolored dick. Mine was half dark with the herc (weird), but I'm thankful it's better with the Goliath now (only a slight clear circle at the base now)
RED, did you post your recent BM exclusive progress somewhere already ? I'm very interested in that.