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    Unhappy Andractim is my last hope...

    Hey Everyone,

    After doing some research online and checking the usual forums, I decided to give Adractim (DHT cream) a shot. This will probably be my last shot at Penis Enlargement - I've been very consistent for 2 years + without much improvement. Actually, the only significant signs of change are new stretch marks and some damaged foreskin from intense Penis Enlargement sessions.

    I've tried it all: jelqing, stretching, traction devices, static pumping, dynamic pumping, clamping, clamped jelqing, edging, and a bunch of combinations of the aforementioned. All in all, I think I may have gained a total of 1/8" in both length and girth... Needless to say, I think I am a hard gainer. Anytime I try a new program, it seems to produce PI's for 1-4 weeks, but then it stops. I have never made progress from one routine to the next; it's always a restart button for me.

    With all of the research that I have done on the various forums, Penis Enlargement is certainly possible. And from a biochemical perspective, perhaps my tribulations are attributed to a hormonal problem? There is only one way to find out...

    So, today I purchased 2 tubes of Andractim from All Saints Clinic. Hopefully my order will arrive soon and I can begin the experiment.

    Considering that there are a lot of gaps in user feedback regarding topical DHT experiments, I will post in this thread daily. I plan on cycling andractim (2-4 weeks on, 1-2 weeks off - depending on reactions). In addition to the treatment, I plan to do a 1 on/1 off workout that includes:

    (Warm-up)
    5 minute warm-up
    3 minute jelq
    2 minute clamp

    (Workout - repeat 4 times)
    10 minute pump at 3" with heat (non-erect)
    3 minute jelq
    2 minute clamp

    Finish with 5 minute edging


    The workout above is the most recent con-"cock"-tion that I have created. I just finished a 3 week period and am currently recovering until the andractim arrives. Once it does, I'll post starting stats.

    If anyone has tips for this experiment, please feel free to chime in. I could use all the help I can get.


    -Douglas Hamlin

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    What is the purpose of Andractim? Looking it up but it states it is for male menopause.
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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    Andractim contains DHT which is testosterone precursor. It is like a steroid, providing extra testosterone. When a boy is maturing, the DHT receptors in the penis are active. As one matures the receptors grow inactive. There is a line of thought that stretching/hanging with andractim rubbed into the penis, will provide extra growth. It needs to be cycled to keep the testicles from shrinking and not producing testosterone. I may begin a cycle soon. If so, I'll let you know if I have any success. Andractim without some form of Penis Enlargement is not effective for adults.

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    Quote Originally Posted by hsarge View Post
    Andractim contains DHT which is testosterone precursor. It is like a steroid, providing extra testosterone. When a boy is maturing, the DHT receptors in the penis are active. As one matures the receptors grow inactive. There is a line of thought that stretching/hanging with andractim rubbed into the penis, will provide extra growth. It needs to be cycled to keep the testicles from shrinking and not producing testosterone. I may begin a cycle soon. If so, I'll let you know if I have any success. Andractim without some form of Penis Enlargement is not effective for adults.
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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    I'm interested in hearing more people's experience with this, has anyone else had any success with it? There seems to be more guys who have tried it on other boards, I'm only a member here, but if you google it you'll see it in other places too.

    Dford

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    is there a us retailer for this?

    http://www.pegym.com/forums/success-...m-success.html

    check that out guys wow if he isin't bullshitting im gonna get on this and incorporate it in my routine. He only did jelqs in his routine and he gained over an inch in a month! wtf!? imagine if i use Bathmate and fast size + my manual routines i wonder man wtf lol

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    If you go to allsaintsclinic.org you can fill out an order form and they will ship it to you. I have already put in my order (think it comes out to be almost $200) which should be arriving within 5 days.

    DLD: The cost per cycle will depend on how much you are using per day and how many days/week you are applying it. For first time orders, you must order 2 tubes (16 ounces each = 32 ounces total). There are 28 grams in 1 ounce, so 32 ounces will provide 896 grams. Penis Enlargement users typically apply 2.5-5.0 grams per day. Accordingly, 896 grams should last 179-358 days. From what I have read, cycles are usually 2-4 weeks on, 1-2 weeks off. Everyone is different, tragically. I will closely pay attention to my reactions on a day to day basis and cease activity once PIs slow down - which I would imagine is a sign of down-regulation (penis cells are decreasing DHT/Androgen receptors).

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    Try my NewbieX2 routine for length and DLDs girth blasters for girth.

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    Quote Originally Posted by newbie09 View Post
    Try my NewbieX2 routine for length and DLDs girth blasters for girth.
    Can you post a link to those exercises? I wont perform them within the experiment, but if all else fails, I'll give them a try.

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    I've used this stuff and still have some left. I liked it. I did the beginners routine and used a silicone ads system while at work. I gained .75 inches on bpfl and .25 inches bpel. I was not the most consistent with my routine either and my ads broke at work. Use the product for 4-6 weeks then take 2-4 weeks off. Its potent stuff. Rub it in after a jelq session. It seems to take better. Also, use it twice a day. This stuff will absorb quickly. I put it on before bed too and was impressed with my gains. Hope this helps

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas Hamlin View Post
    Can you post a link to those exercises? I wont perform them within the experiment, but if all else fails, I'll give them a try.
    All of my stuff is in my signature, the dld and mandingo stuff is somehwere in the main Penis Enlargement forum.

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    Thanks for the feedback Wanting8!

    Just received my 2 tubes of Andractim today! Took about 5-6 business days to arrive and cost me about $183 (including tax and shipping). I already took headshots of my hair line (just to be safe) and will measure tonight prior to starting.

    A friend of mine is visiting from out of town for a week, which may interfere with my routine. As I have mentioned, I will post daily to keep everyone updated.

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    Looking forward to seeing the results good or bad, because this has me intrigued.

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    Always interested in new additions to Penis Enlargement. Keep us posted and good luck.

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    Ok... Here are my starting stats:

    Flaccid mid-shaft girth: 4 3/16-1/4"
    BPFL: 4 7/8"

    Erect Base Girth: 4 3/4-3/16"
    Erect Mid shaft Girth: 4 9/16-5/8"
    BPenis EnlargementL: 6 5/8-3/4"

    Additional notes: I cure slightly to the left (about 10-15 degrees) and the right side of my shaft is slightly thicker than the left. On a day to day basis, on a scale of 1-10 (1 = non-existent, 10 = skin popping boner) my morning wood is about 6-7. I have a healthy sexual appetite with my girlfriend, but I am currently sporadically horny. I am 27 years old, 5'11, 170 lbs, 6.5-7.0% Body Fat, have a full head of hair and no acne. We'll see how all of this changes...

    Also, I have decided to slightly change my workout, which is listed below (changes are in bold):

    (Warm-up)
    5 minute warm-up
    3 minute jelq
    2 minute clamp

    (Workout - repeat 2 times)
    10 minute pump at 3" with heat (non-erect)
    3 minute jelq
    2 minute clamp

    Finish with 20-30 minute edging.

    Tonight is my first application. Being that it is 10:40 pm ish PST, I will not Penis Enlargement tonight, but rather let 2.5 grams soak in and then use a heat blanket for 20-30 minutes....

    Ok, just applied recommended 2.5 grams of Andractim to my penis using latex gloves. Upon application, there is a warm sensation, then slightly tingly... once it air dries I'll put on the heat wrap.

    See you guys in the morning!

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    As it turned out, I couldn't wait to get started last night. After I finished my hot wrap, I banged out an edging session for about 25 minutes. Quick questions for those that know... is it completely horrible to organism after edging?

    Couldn't sleep last night, which is most likely due to a new diet that I am on (been experiencing some insomnia for about a 9 days now). No sleep = no morning wood. I woke up twice to eat something and eat time I noticed that my penis was much warmer than it usually is, and my flaccid is hanging about 1/8" bigger in both length and girth. This warmth and 1/8" pump persists as I write this.

    Prepping for my workout now and will post results once complete.

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    Sleep is very important for all mental and physical tasks so be sure to get this insomnia under control. There are many solutions you can talk with a pharmacy or doctor about. I take Ambien which works great but stuff like Melatonin works great too and it is an over the counter medication.
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    3. Get The SizeGenetics Penis Extender Complete Package
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    Take advantage of ALL DAY PENIS STRETCHING

    4. Get a Bathmate HydroMax X20, X30, X40 or X50 Penis Pump! with FREE SHIPPING IN THE US!
    Realize Instant Usable Penis Size! Perfect for Penis Girth and Length Expansion!
    Hydro Penis Pumps have become a Massive Tool in Penis Size Gaining and Healing!

    5. Get the Phallosan The All Day and All Night Stretcher Now $100 in extras!

    6. Follow the SRT Routine: Maximizing Gains and Healing Fastest!
    Watch your Penis gain inches in girth and length in the FASTEST time Possible!
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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    I hear ya DLD, and if it persists, I'll get on some melatonin or Valerian Hops.

    After all this talk about DHT production/inhibition, I've got myself freaked out about Penis Enlargement lubes. A lot of natural oils may in fact inhibit DHT (via AR-5 reductase enzyme) such as: olive oil, avocado oil, emu oil, almond oil, etc.

    I was thinking that coconut oil would be good but may inhibit DHT. Anyone have luck with it?

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    Re: Andractim is my last hope...

    from what I read about andractim is it will only cause hair loss if used in huge amounts per day, singe 2.5g or 5g per day for a couple weeks is fine

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