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  1. #161

    Re: Killing pre-ejac

    Quote Originally Posted by Want1 View Post
    My problem is I don't think I fully understand the whole kegel exercise. When erect a kegel should cause my penis to rise up and somewhat become harder right? What should a reverse feel like?
    take a dump. get empty lol
    and push really hard into your penis from your abdomen and anus. you need to train that.

    I trained it for some time now and I can hold a reverse kegel for 1 minute or more. the head gets huge.
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  2. #162

    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    How long does it take 2 start getting the effects from the kegel exercise? It seems like it's hard to tell if I'm doing it correctly...I think it's just difficult 4 some of us 2 tell if we are doing it right...they y I want to know about how long will it take for me 2 realize what the effects are some then around that time if I'm not getting the effects I will no that maybe I'm not doing them correctly or what not...

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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Well it depends on how intensely you can contract your pelvic floor muscles and how often you contract them. I personally, have gotten much more in tune with, and much stronger in a little under a month. I can feel noticeable and significant travel of the pelvic floor and intensity moving ever closer to my scrotum and away from my anus. (Although I will admit that I have become almost obsessive in doing them almost all of the time day and night. Call it an addiction :D)

    As you get stronger, you will feel less and less contraction near the anus and closer to the front of your body. You will feel more and more blood movement within your penis and the "squeeze" near the bulbs of the CC and CS. (See images of pelvic region anatomy to see where I am talking about)

    I have also noticed, for me personally anyway, that there is a definite feeling of two-stage contraction. (Now in hindsight I realize that when I first started contracting my pelvic floor muscles, I didn't even feel the second stage of contraction.) The first peaks in intensity when the most stress moves from anus forward to the scrotum, and there seems to be a kind of stop sign or speed bump there :D Then if the intensity of the contraction is increased beyond that you will feel almost as if the contraction moves outward along your penis to the glans. (this contraction does not really happen! It is a feeling caused by being able to contract hard enough to push blood forcefully all the way to the end of the glans)

    But no one can tell you how long this will take or exactly what it will feel like for you. I was more clueless about kegels than probably anyone, but I just did them anyway, relentlessly. And the strength just keeps getting better.

    I would say just do them, do them as much as you can. From my perspective, if it helps, this is what I felt from the beginning:

    At first, I almost felt nothing but a "clenching" of the anus.

    After about a week of doing them obsessively, I could feel that it became most intense midway between my anus and scrotum.

    As I got even stronger, I started noticing that the feeling kept moving forward, and kept moving forward the stronger that I got. And I started noticing a clear feeling of the pelvic floor lifting up.

    Where I am at now, about a month in:

    The feeling is of significant lifting or raising of the pelvic floor so that when I "relax" or even do a slight "reverse kegel" immediately after doing a kegel, it feels like my pelvic floor drops an inch or so. (It doesn't move that much, but it definitely feels like it falls dramatically)

    The first stage of controlled contraction feels like it is most intense right at or in the scrotum itself (or maybe the point where it is attached at), but I actually feel a rise in my testes as well. Then it sort of hits a wall or tough spot.

    Then I can contract further and I feel the mass of intensity move out of the scrotum and "slide" along the shaft until it reaches my glans.

    Note: the speed bump, hiccup, or whatever at the scrotum only occurs when gradually increasing the contraction. If I do a quick intense contraction it goes all the way out to the glans, but it is not as intense as gradually increasing the intensity.

    Maybe from the above you will be able to identify moments when your pelvic floor muscles are getting stronger.

  4. #164

    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Dear Ir,

    Thanks man...your always a help to me and others...maybe you should be careful though man. I don't really want to do them day and night because I'm scared to overtrain them. I remember that you said it's hard to overtrain them but still. O and I have a question that I want to ask you guys. I'm going to make a thread. And I would love to have u chime in. Thanks again man...your lots of help

  5. #165

    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by iGottaGetBigger View Post
    Dear Ir,

    Thanks man...your always a help to me and others...maybe you should be careful though man. I don't really want to do them day and night because I'm scared to overtrain them. I remember that you said it's hard to overtrain them but still. O and I have a question that I want to ask you guys. I'm going to make a thread. And I would love to have u chime in. Thanks again man...your lots of help
    I think kegel exercises that involve resistance are really great. espacially when doing them erect.
    I feel that doing kegels all day is a bit of wasted time. I did them and they didnt help that much in relation to resistance kegels
    rubberband kegels. or towel raises are good.

    One part is making the kegel muscle and the whole area stronger but the other is training to control the muscles.
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  6. #166

    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    thanks man. How what where the results from doing these resistance kegels and when did you start to notice the reuses taking place?
    Quote Originally Posted by dickerschwanz View Post
    I think kegel exercises that involve resistance are really great. espacially when doing them erect.
    I feel that doing kegels all day is a bit of wasted time. I did them and they didnt help that much in relation to resistance kegels
    rubberband kegels. or towel raises are good.

    One part is making the kegel muscle and the whole area stronger but the other is training to control the muscles.

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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Every time I do reverse kegels, after a few minutes I almost vomit.

    Is there a way to do it without creating so much abdominal pressure?

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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    You don't have to do reverse kegels hard. Intense kegels are great. But I wouldn't see any benefit of intense reverse kegels. Maybe I am missing something?

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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    I tried it again. I'm pretty sure I did it right this time, and it didn't put that much stress on me. Not only that, but my erection looked crazy after a few minutes.
    My previous problem may be due to high blood pressure. It used to be really low last year but I let myself go. I'm getting back into shape though, which should get me back to low blood pressure, and maybe shave a tiny bit off my fat pad.

    I've seen some success with edging using reverse kegels today. I will definitely get better at it and try to edge for an hour.

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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Glad to hear...yeah, I only use reverse kegels myself to indirectly "fully relax" the pelvic floor as opposed to the contraction force applied with a kegel.

    And using the reverse kegels to stop ejaculation is fantastic for edging. (Again, nothing intense, just a slight reverse kegel before you get to the "no point of return".)
    It is just enough to make the erection a little softer and remove a little blood for a second or two to make the "urge" to ejaculate go away.

    Your comment did make me laugh though. Not what you said, but what it made me think of. There was this science guy who was talking about the theoretical limits of the penis on a human being. Long story short, he estimated it to be about 39" long :D Why did he stop there? Because he said beyond that the person would lose consciousness due to the evacuation of blood to the rest of the body to engorge the monster!!!! LOL

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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by iGottaGetBigger View Post
    thanks man. How what where the results from doing these resistance kegels and when did you start to notice the reuses taking place?
    Stronger erections + more control over the pelvic area. more control over ejaculation /PONR
    results are with like every other muscle. it gets stronger every other day I train it.
    tough you can never stop the training or your muscle cause then the neural pathway to it and the strength itself will weaken.


    Its like with every muscle. doing no resistance training just strengthens the neural pathway and helps with endurance.
    Doing resistance training makes the muscle stronger.
    I can feel a big difference. It feels very strong and isolated when I do kegel now.
    Also the orgasm contractions/ sperm shooting are stronger.

    I do train with resistance this way.
    Day 1: 3 second hold as often as I can until dick looses hardness
    Day 2: 10 second hold as often as I can until dick looses hardness
    Day 3: maximum hold as often as long I can until dick looses hardness

    make a day pause after or between days.

    I do it while I edge and once I loose the hardness I stimulate again while doing very hard reverse kegels.
    I didnt find away till now to train the reverse kegel with resistance.(anyone?)

    My goal is to reach the point where I can hold a reverse kegel while stil beeing able to breath and move somewhat normaly.
    This would enable me to fuck long spurts of hammering with a enlarged dick and no fear of reaching PONR which in essence would transform me into a fucking machine lol
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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Glad to see this thread bumped dickerschwanz! Good to see you are hitting it hard so consistently.
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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Looking for some advice on where to begin with all this, complete newb to these excercises.

    Does anyone have links or time to explain kegels and reverse kegels?

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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Alright i have a question for reverse kegals, to know if im doing it right...so i was masterbating last night and when i was at the point of exploding i think i reversed kegaled and started going slower and the sensation went away and then i started giong fast again and then slowed down to reverse kegal and the sensation went away again....is that right?

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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kg9734 View Post
    Alright i have a question for reverse kegals, to know if im doing it right...so i was masterbating last night and when i was at the point of exploding i think i reversed kegaled and started going slower and the sensation went away and then i started giong fast again and then slowed down to reverse kegal and the sensation went away again....is that right?
    I want to say that it is perfect, but as you realize now, it is the variation back and forth, between the kegel and the reverse kegel that allows this process to cease. It is never the same, sometimes I need to push the reverse kegel longer, some times I have to squeeze the PC faster, but it is always a sequence that accomplishes it.
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    Re: PC Kegel advice ... to last longer discussion thread

    Reading some in this thread just enlightened me to why i premature ejaculate!

    starting as a teen, i would always jerk off laying down, my legs would tense up and i would kegel without realizing it....it just clicked reading this. that inadvertant kegel became a habit and that's how i have sex ever since.

    Now to RK during sex.

    I feel i have the misconception that RK-ing would draw blood out of the dick making hard-on weak. Is this true?

    thanks gang (this site is mindblowingly full of info)

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