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I don't have 100% certain documentation but if you want I can send you some links and photos in private messages.
DHT Penis Growth Theory
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I just found this thread.
I have extensively researched (and still researching) chemical PE.
To answer your questions, 2 words: Gene expression.
This falls in the field of epigenetic. Once your growth plates are closed, its pretty much game over, BUT under the right nutritional environment plus certain proteins and peptides, you CAN potentiate gene expression and utilize dormant stem cells in the body that are everywhere.
However, just rubbing your dick with DHT WILL NOT give you a big dick. It has been tried many times by many users throughout the years. Those who have gained such as men with micropenis and TS, its due to again gene expression.
I have extensively researched (and still researching) chemical PE.
To answer your questions, 2 words: Gene expression.
This falls in the field of epigenetic. Once your growth plates are closed, its pretty much game over, BUT under the right nutritional environment plus certain proteins and peptides, you CAN potentiate gene expression and utilize dormant stem cells in the body that are everywhere.
However, just rubbing your dick with DHT WILL NOT give you a big dick. It has been tried many times by many users throughout the years. Those who have gained such as men with micropenis and TS, its due to again gene expression.
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And what about SARMs (Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators)? There is MK-677 and it works just as good as 3-4 IU quality pharmagrade real HGH, it stimulates the pituitary to release lots of HGH so it isn’t supressive. Technically MK-677 isn’t a real SARM but it is categorized in the sarms group of chemicals for convenience.
I believe there are also certain chemicals which can induce hyperplasia, but my question is: will it be beneficial for hanging?
Does it make the tunica recover faster and grow stronger? So useless for gains as you have to go heavier and heavier to induce and ride the fatigue?
Or does it make the tunica longer with faster recovery and of you keep stretching / hanging it will not become stronger ? Because it creates actual new cells.
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Good question.
Mk-677 increase your own Gh and IGF-1 without suppression.
Following logic, GH and IGF-1 increases cellular hyperplasia and therefore should faster recovery and increase gains from jelqing and hanging/stretching.
But maybe I'm wrong..
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As a matter of fact, I have found something even more interestind and I really think i’m on to something:
The Complete Guide to Penis Enlargement
SNP Method 2.0: The Complete Guide to Penis Enlargement is the first and only scientifically based book that explains how to obtain penis enlargement naturally and chemically. Containing information from more than three hundred studies, the book was developed by author Michael J. Maverick after...
books.google.nl
It’s about getting your body into the hormonal state that one has in puberty. In general the medical community says that it isn’t possible to grow your dick but this guy has found alot of evidence that I always knew to be true deep inside my intuition.
You see i’m on a life quest to optimize my hormones, I have read ALOT about natural DHT/ Testosterone / IGF-1 and HGH optimization true diet and avoiding endocrine disruptors in our modern technology driven society.
This dude had a website and i’m considering buying the information he has to investigate it and there are alot of similarities in my own found approach to an optimal hormonal condition for a male body.
I strongly believe one can gain more easily and rapidly if you create the optimal anabolic environment inside your body and optimize your diet and supplements!
He also explains why DHT gel like andractim sometimes works, and sometimes not, because it’s only one part of the equation
Just like PE exercises is one part of the equation.
If you want to gain effortlessly without too much inflammation and scarring / fibrosis due to too much mechanical stress on the penis you should give that google books link a thorough read.
Here is the website of the author which explains it all:
The Complete Guide to Penis Enlargement
The first scientifically based guide that teaches you how to obtain a permanent increase in penis size, naturally or chemically.
www.thecompleteguidetopenisenlargement.com
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I think Andractim or any other DHT cream is not good because it suppresses HPTA.As a matter of fact, I have found something even more interestind and I really think i’m on to something:
The Complete Guide to Penis Enlargement
SNP Method 2.0: The Complete Guide to Penis Enlargement is the first and only scientifically based book that explains how to obtain penis enlargement naturally and chemically. Containing information from more than three hundred studies, the book was developed by author Michael J. Maverick after...books.google.nl
It’s about getting your body into the hormonal state that one has in puberty. In general the medical community says that it isn’t possible to grow your dick but this guy has found alot of evidence that I always knew to be true deep inside my intuition.
You see i’m on a life quest to optimize my hormones, I have read ALOT about natural DHT/ Testosterone / IGF-1 and HGH optimization true diet and avoiding endocrine disruptors in our modern technology driven society.
This dude had a website and i’m considering buying the information he has to investigate it and there are alot of similarities in my own found approach to an optimal hormonal condition for a male body.
I strongly believe one can gain more easily and rapidly if you create the optimal anabolic environment inside your body and optimize your diet and supplements!
He also explains why DHT gel like andractim sometimes works, and sometimes not, because it’s only one part of the equation
Just like PE exercises is one part of the equation.
If you want to gain effortlessly without too much inflammation and scarring / fibrosis due to too much mechanical stress on the penis you should give that google books link a thorough read.
Here is the website of the author which explains it all:
The Complete Guide to Penis Enlargement
The first scientifically based guide that teaches you how to obtain a permanent increase in penis size, naturally or chemically.
I tried Titan 12%, a DHT gel for 6 weeks but it gave me testicular atrophy and no permanent penis gain.
I was 17 years old...
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And that’s because you used it wrongly, and it was only used in studies for penile growth in childres and adults. So far the evidence. More importantly is the fact that those hormones are actually the key to length and girth. So what’s left is getting your body into that high level hormonal state.
I have male pattern baldness, and I took dustasteride/finasteride for 4 years every day.’high dosages. I fucked up my 5-alpha reductase enzyme which converts testosterone into DHT.
I may got permanent damage to it, but I’m not giving up. This is my life quest and important to me. I will find ways to reach those levels naturally.
@DutchAthletic92 MK-677 IS NOT A SARM, it is a GH secretagogue. Some sites call it SARM because of legal issues and loopholes to sell as research chemicals.
SARM is a "decent" product. In the bodybuilding community is known as the GH for poor people. Because the results are close to real pharmaceutical HGH but you cant even compare.
Just like the book you posted explains, this is just part of the equation. The body is composed by dozens of hormones and enzymes all in their right levels and ratios. Thats the complexity of the matter, and that is what I have been researching all this time.
Im interested about the details in the chemical section of this book, because the topic is way more complex than it looks. Just in the development and growth of the penis are probably over 10 hormones and proteins involved. Proteins like BMP-7, BMP-2, SHH, plus the hormones that the body produce in high quantity during puberty, which are many of them.
And even with that being said, we dont know if the DNA will allow puberty levels growth when reaching that environment. Its worth to try though. But its expensive, and hard to acquire all the necessary products.
Now if you put together all this environment, plus P-shots, shockwave and stem cell therapy for a year, THEN YOURE ONTO SOMETHING.
SARM is a "decent" product. In the bodybuilding community is known as the GH for poor people. Because the results are close to real pharmaceutical HGH but you cant even compare.
Just like the book you posted explains, this is just part of the equation. The body is composed by dozens of hormones and enzymes all in their right levels and ratios. Thats the complexity of the matter, and that is what I have been researching all this time.
Im interested about the details in the chemical section of this book, because the topic is way more complex than it looks. Just in the development and growth of the penis are probably over 10 hormones and proteins involved. Proteins like BMP-7, BMP-2, SHH, plus the hormones that the body produce in high quantity during puberty, which are many of them.
And even with that being said, we dont know if the DNA will allow puberty levels growth when reaching that environment. Its worth to try though. But its expensive, and hard to acquire all the necessary products.
Now if you put together all this environment, plus P-shots, shockwave and stem cell therapy for a year, THEN YOURE ONTO SOMETHING.
My hope is on CRISPR but there is a lot more research that needs to be done. Genes are EXTREMELY complex. The body and its hormonal system is extremely complex.
If you read a little about it and get a grasp of its complexity, there is NO DOUBT that we were created. The human body is the most complex and advance machine that we will ever know. It is biological and the level of technology to produce a machine like this takes a technology hundreds of lights years ahead in the future.
Scientists LOVE to bullshit people telling us that we are monkeys, we came from monkeys, we are nothing more than primates and we will never be more than a monkey. When in reality when I look at one of those creatures I dont see ANY relationship between them and me. We kinda look alike, but the gene in charge of that similarity is an insignificant part of the DNA sequence. The human genome is way more complex.
Also primates have a penis bone. No human with a penis bone has ever been found, and it will never been found because humans have no relationship to earth primates. Can you imagine the hundreds of thousands of years that a species would take to eliminate something such a penis bone??? And for what reason would a species lose it if its way more efficient. It is a guaranteed erection for a bipedal. Animals like horses dont have a penis bone, BUT their erection hangs downwards. Blood pressure in their case works perfect with gravity. We need to push the blood forwards which is way more difficult.
The theory of HUMAN evolution is FAKE NEWS. FAKE LIKE CNN FAKE. FAKE ASS PMSNBC, CBS, NBC, FAKE as all those communist parasites.
If you read a little about it and get a grasp of its complexity, there is NO DOUBT that we were created. The human body is the most complex and advance machine that we will ever know. It is biological and the level of technology to produce a machine like this takes a technology hundreds of lights years ahead in the future.
Scientists LOVE to bullshit people telling us that we are monkeys, we came from monkeys, we are nothing more than primates and we will never be more than a monkey. When in reality when I look at one of those creatures I dont see ANY relationship between them and me. We kinda look alike, but the gene in charge of that similarity is an insignificant part of the DNA sequence. The human genome is way more complex.
Also primates have a penis bone. No human with a penis bone has ever been found, and it will never been found because humans have no relationship to earth primates. Can you imagine the hundreds of thousands of years that a species would take to eliminate something such a penis bone??? And for what reason would a species lose it if its way more efficient. It is a guaranteed erection for a bipedal. Animals like horses dont have a penis bone, BUT their erection hangs downwards. Blood pressure in their case works perfect with gravity. We need to push the blood forwards which is way more difficult.
The theory of HUMAN evolution is FAKE NEWS. FAKE LIKE CNN FAKE. FAKE ASS PMSNBC, CBS, NBC, FAKE as all those communist parasites.
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It is literally my life mission here on earth to create this hormonal anabolic environment in my body. ?
I am considering buying the book because it’s only €18 and it has valuable information. I am willing to try out everything and become my own testing guinea pig.
I was already doing alll that stuff, clean organic diet, avoiding xenoestrogrens, filtering tap water, taking supplements, and I have a real chance to get my HGH & IGF-1 levels to insane high levels naturally without injecting real exogeous HGH or IGF-1.
Have a look at this link: How To Replicate A HIGH Dose Of Pharma Grade GH With Peptides
This dude has found a way to replicate a real high dosage of HGH + IGF-1 around the clock 24/7 at the fraction of the costs of real pharmagrade gear !
With MK-677 and peptides!
The hormonal stuff like testosterone and DHT and everything is something I am increasing anyway, and i’m waiting on my Enclomiphene Citrate to start a mini pct at 6.25mg/day to stimulate testosterone LH & FSH to extreme high levels.
With my diet training and lifestyle choices it should stat that high, i am also controlling estrogen with a mild suicidal aromata inhibitor when if gets too high, and i’m getting blood work of after every few weeks to see where i’m at.
I will document everything in my own log progress thread: DutchAthletic’s ascension path to 10” BPEL
I am not using any manmade chemicals, no soap, shampoo, no body lotion, I watch out with certain foods because there are unfortunately some potent DHT inhibitors in some healthy foods but it is what it is!
I was already on the organic DHT diet and I know everything to optimize it, I got my own utensils to cook, i’m living with roommates, but I am working on finding a place for my self.
I’m still a poor student but i’m working side jobs and every summer vacation i’m gonna work to pay for all this stuff. I am convinced this will work and I will share every single detail with you guys on here.
When I have the book I will share all the necessary info for you guys to try it out. There’s one advantage, this dude knows nothing about SARMs and mk-677 or peptides and my own extensive knowledge is perfect to combine with his knowledge like the optimal ratio’s and range for those hormone levels, to get there is knowledge I already have.
And i’ll have a look at that penis enlargement nutrition book from that website which I estimate that I already know 80% of it but stil, maybe he has some valuable info which is usable.
I am completely obsessed with this stuff. I find a way that works and you guys can follow me. ??
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@DutchAthletic92 Ive been pretty obsessed with it for years too....however as I was telling you before, I dont know if the book talks about this, but there are certain proteins responsible for external male genitalia growth such as SHH and BMP-2 and BMP-3. I did some research to acquire those and is almost impossible. Perhaps if you're a student, you can find a good guy studying chemistry that could get interested in developing these products in a transdermal carrier.
You can always buy all kind of chemicals at places like Sigma Aldrich, but you need to know exactly what you're buying and how to chemically process it for delivery. Is not just a matter of buying a powder and swallow it with orange juice. It has to be transformed into an injectable solution or a transdermal solution, and it has to be human recombinant. Dont inject rat shit because you will become mickey mouse
Question, what made you decide to use Enclomiphene citrate over other SERMS like climid, nolvadex, toremifene, raloxifene?
Also as far as using an AI, I wouldn't use it from the beginning, simply because you dont know if its needed. AI's are very bad on lipid profiles, and if you're gonna do a blood test, I would wait for that and determine if its needed or not. Unless you start developing clear high estrogen symptoms like gyno or sensitive nipples, low libido, etc.
You can always buy all kind of chemicals at places like Sigma Aldrich, but you need to know exactly what you're buying and how to chemically process it for delivery. Is not just a matter of buying a powder and swallow it with orange juice. It has to be transformed into an injectable solution or a transdermal solution, and it has to be human recombinant. Dont inject rat shit because you will become mickey mouse
Question, what made you decide to use Enclomiphene citrate over other SERMS like climid, nolvadex, toremifene, raloxifene?
Also as far as using an AI, I wouldn't use it from the beginning, simply because you dont know if its needed. AI's are very bad on lipid profiles, and if you're gonna do a blood test, I would wait for that and determine if its needed or not. Unless you start developing clear high estrogen symptoms like gyno or sensitive nipples, low libido, etc.
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Taking Test or DHT for a short period of time while doing PE is ok, and you will have a little boost or you will have not. If you do too much, you may end up with an enlarged prostate as a negative side-effect.
But, if we forget all hairloss issues, taking DHT-blockers is only bad since DHT has so many important functions in a male body, just like a low level of estrogen is essential for every man. Moreover, that idea to "kick start penis' androgen receptors" is simply a baseless theory since there is zero evidence that blocking DHT can somehow rejuvenate our reproductive system (but surely it can ruin it). Thus, without a doctor's advise, stay away from DHT-blockers.
But, if we forget all hairloss issues, taking DHT-blockers is only bad since DHT has so many important functions in a male body, just like a low level of estrogen is essential for every man. Moreover, that idea to "kick start penis' androgen receptors" is simply a baseless theory since there is zero evidence that blocking DHT can somehow rejuvenate our reproductive system (but surely it can ruin it). Thus, without a doctor's advise, stay away from DHT-blockers.
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Very good sound advice!
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