Exclusive 5x5x3 MityVac/SSJ girth workout ? MONSTER GIRTH!

oldandlively said:

Nice! Now, make sure to compare note from this with prior erection ability. Do the same comparison every week and look at the trend of your ability to command erection at will. Some week may have decreases due to fatigues, but most weeks, you'll see an EQ and erection count on demands. This is where you want to progress.

No need to remove the cock ring while doing red light therapy. It helps even more during the post-pumping session erection.

It's better to have some expansion than no expansion. Remember that PE is progressive work and not stagnant work. You need to keep at it no matter how little the effort is.

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Let me update you on this.
40 mins after using MOSRED (dont forget I used MOSRED 10 mins after the cockring from Girth Routine - with cockring on) my penis became as It should be in the morning. Retraced all back and the expansion that's there is the real real super real expansion like 0.12' expansion. This image I am taking is the image I should have after 12 hours.
When i was removing the cockring every 30 mins, my penis was "big" and expanded - yes with fluid retention but expanded.
I am so confused. I think I have lost my way on this.

kriskros said:

Let me update you on this.
40 mins after using MOSRED (dont forget I used MOSRED 10 mins after the cockring from Girth Routine - with cockring on) my penis became as It should be in the morning. Retraced all back and the expansion that's there is the real real super real expansion like 0.12' expansion. This image I am taking is the image I should have after 12 hours.
When i was removing the cockring every 30 mins, my penis was "big" and expanded - yes with fluid retention but expanded.
I am so confused. I think I have lost my way on this.

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Even if the penis is retracted in the morning, but there's an expansion, that's fine. Your body will retract and conserves as much as it can during the night while performing repairs. The common expansion is the tip of the glans to around 2.5 below the glans, which is about 1in below the base of the glans (corona). Very normal. Most retraction is in the shaft. This is why I tell people to measure the corona of the glans to truly know where you are in the growth. You can measure the shaft all you want, but the growth in the shaft comprise of too many tissues to truly know where you are in the entire PE journey. The glans has minimal tissues to grow unlike the penile shaft. It it expands and grow, you know the rest are growing.

If you remove the cock ring and there is fluid buildup, just do reverse SSJ or squeeze the fluid out using the OK grip for the base of the glans and palms choking for the entire shaft. Fluid leaves the penis very quickly. You can see the immediate gain after the fluid is removed. This is why SSJ and reverse SSJ is important.

oldandlively said:

Even if the penis is retracted in the morning, but there's an expansion, that's fine. Your body will retract and conserves as much as it can during the night while performing repairs. The common expansion is the tip of the glans to around 2.5 below the glans, which is about 1in below the base of the glans (corona). Very normal. Most retraction is in the shaft. This is why I tell people to measure the corona of the glans to truly know where you are in the growth. You can measure the shaft all you want, but the growth in the shaft comprise of too many tissues to truly know where you are in the entire PE journey. The glans has minimal tissues to grow unlike the penile shaft. It it expands and grow, you know the rest are growing.

If you remove the cock ring and there is fluid buildup, just do reverse SSJ or squeeze the fluid out using the OK grip for the base of the glans and palms choking for the entire shaft. Fluid leaves the penis very quickly. You can see the immediate gain after the fluid is removed. This is why SSJ and reverse SSJ is important.

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I do not know what a reverse SSJ is but I want to ask if I can use this reverse SSJ right after my girth routine.

Also by the way @oldandlively do you believe this specific vaccuum they are promoting for ED with constriction rings can be used for an erection on demand? I do not think I can have erections like you on demand .... your "mental" powers are psychic like...I have never heard a guy to command his penis to erection just because he wants to..

kriskros said:

I do not know what a reverse SSJ is but I want to ask if I can use this reverse SSJ right after my girth routine.

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SSJ is an OK grip at the base of the glans and at the base of penile shaft. You squeeze and bend the penis together to create a larger volume expansion in the middle. You can also do an OK grip only at the base to max out both the glands and the penile shaft. Reverse OK grip for jelqing is an OK grips at the base of the glans, squeeze tight for one of the OK grips, and slide slowly down to the base. This is to force all blood and fluid out of the penile body.

kriskros said:

Also by the way @oldandlively do you believe this specific vaccuum they are promoting for ED with constriction rings can be used for an erection on demand? I do not think I can have erections like you on demand .... your "mental" powers are psychic like...I have never heard a guy to command his penis to erection just because he wants to..

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As for the constriction rings, you can use anything from a rubber/silicone/cloth tourniquet strap to a cock ring. However, a ring can be dangerous if you don't have way to remove it. MOS cock ring with the two handles on both side is a great device. It's both constrictive (smaller size) and restrictive (larger size). You want immediate blood in the penis using the cock ring, slide your penis in the pump and pump up to 5inHg, and attempt the erection. Blood will be trapped in the penis with ease.

As for the erection on demand, yes, I can do it. I do it all the time. The moment my wife wants the flag pole as she touches my crotch, all I do is visualize my penis inside her dripping pussy and it goes up. This is through months and years of training my mind through PE. The older you get, the harder it is. But, staying away from adult entertainment helps, and having an active imagination boosts the visualization process even more. Never take the easy way out.

oldandlively said:

SSJ is an OK grip at the base of the glans and at the base of penile shaft. You squeeze and bend the penis together to create a larger volume expansion in the middle. You can also do an OK grip only at the base to max out both the glands and the penile shaft. Reverse OK grip for jelqing is an OK grips at the base of the glans, squeeze tight for one of the OK grips, and slide slowly down to the base. This is to force all blood and fluid out of the penile body.

As for the constriction rings, you can use anything from a rubber/silicone/cloth tourniquet strap to a cock ring. However, a ring can be dangerous if you don't have way to remove it. MOS cock ring with the two handles on both side is a great device. It's both constrictive (smaller size) and restrictive (larger size). You want immediate blood in the penis using the cock ring, slide your penis in the pump and pump up to 5inHg, and attempt the erection. Blood will be trapped in the penis with ease.

As for the erection on demand, yes, I can do it. I do it all the time. The moment my wife wants the flag pole as she touches my crotch, all I do is visualize my penis inside her dripping pussy and it goes up. This is through months and years of training my mind through PE. The older you get, the harder it is. But, staying away from adult entertainment helps, and having an active imagination boosts the visualization process even more. Never take the easy way out.

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2day I tried to do the same...no ���� just visualized my penis but....it was such a battle.
I do not know if I must force myself to learn to have erections or take this cockring you say and use it with mityvac to get erections for my routines. Really. Advise?

kriskros said:

2day I tried to do the same...no ���� just visualized my penis but....it was such a battle.
I do not know if I must force myself to learn to have erections or take this cockring you say and use it with mityvac to get erections for my routines. Really. Advise?

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Use a cock ring that is around 60% of the pre-pumping girth size. You may need 70% to 80% if it gets uncomfortable. Add a bit of vaseline or lubrication for emergency removal purposes if you have a round cock ring without removal handles. Keep the ring flushed to the bottom of the base as much as you can. Slowly pump up to 3inHg and attempt an erection through light kegel (1 second to 3 seconds bursts). Add more pressure if needed until you get a nice volume of erectile blood in the penis. Reduce and remove pressure from the pump. This is commonly used in clinical training for pump users.

Ok 2 and a half hours passed, did my 5x5x1 as an "addon" to my previous 5x5x2 to observe how things are going.
To be honest, my penis was feeling somehow "in pain" somehow "tired" but I managed to do it easier than before.
I will have cockring for 2 hours more and I will observe next morning.

"in pain" as in fatigues or tiredness is good. Pains as in irritation and sharp pain somewhere is bad. Rest and back down at this point.

oldandlively said:

"in pain" as in fatigues or tiredness is good. Pains as in irritation and sharp pain somewhere is bad. Rest and back down at this point.

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Its as fatigue and now the million dollar question!!!
Today I did 5x5x2, used cockring for 2 and a half hours then 5x5x1 and cockring for 2 hours.
Is it better than 5x5x3 and cockring 1 hour?
I know its a ridiculus question but did that had a meaning or not?

kriskros said:

Its as fatigue and now the million dollar question!!!
Today I did 5x5x2, used cockring for 2 and a half hours then 5x5x1 and cockring for 2 hours.
Is it better than 5x5x3 and cockring 1 hour?
I know its a ridiculus question but did that had a meaning or not?

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A million dollar answer:
5x5x2 with 2 hours.

5x5x1 with 2 hours is too few sets of external and internal pressure expansion.

5x5x3 with 1 hour is better than the 5x5x1 with 2 hours.

However, 5x5x2 with 2 hours will yield similar result, but that extra set of 5x5x1 does make the expansion goes one step further.

If time is a constrain, 5x5x2 with 2 hours. If time is not a constrain, 5x5x3 with 2 hours. If you have time to spare, 5x5x2 morning and night, with as many hours of post pump cock ring as possible.

oldandlively said:

A million dollar answer:
5x5x2 with 2 hours.

5x5x1 with 2 hours is too few sets of external and internal pressure expansion.

5x5x3 with 1 hour is better than the 5x5x1 with 2 hours.

However, 5x5x2 with 2 hours will yield similar result, but that extra set of 5x5x1 does make the expansion goes one step further.

If time is a constrain, 5x5x2 with 2 hours. If time is not a constrain, 5x5x3 with 2 hours. If you have time to spare, 5x5x2 morning and night, with as many hours of post pump cock ring as possible.

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OK I understand.
The reason I am doing 5x5x2 and not 5x5x3 is just the erection problem. Now that I will try mityvac with a ring for erections let's hope this change and I can so 5x5x3 with many hours cockring

Also @DLD do you mind telling me if MOSRED is better applied after a girth session because of Collagen production? Or should the collagen "be there" earlier?
thanks.

kriskros said:

Also @DLD do you mind telling me if MOSRED is better applied after a girth session because of Collagen production? Or should the collagen "be there" earlier?
thanks.

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Before and after. Start as a warmup and after for healing

I would like to ask a question, and please let me know if you know @DLD or @oldandlively
Why Mityvac is better pump than other pumps?
Why Bathmate is a better pump than other pumps?
How's Mityvac better from a medical-grade pump?

Also, from our conversations I have understood that having expanded penis for a long period of time is better than nothing. If i see my penis big, It helps me have better erections (cause it is psychologigal). How can someone have expanded penis all the time? He can "pump" 2-3 times a day and 1 out of 3 do the 5x5x3 program?

Each pumps have their positives and negatives. Better than other? No. It should be said as "more preferred than the other". Otherwise, the market wouldn't be flooded with the pump.

Bathmate has portability, usability, and compatibility. It is designed for both air and water with advanced and simplified pump system. The negative side is the lack of pressure gauge and for good reasons as the gauge cannot be added on due to the relief valve design. Modding at your own risk of warranty.

The MityVac is designed same purpse as the Bath Mate, however the support is the entire brotherhood. The negative side is the lack of reservoir for the water trap. The most upbeat side is the cylinder for the higher pressure design using a thick wall for safety, accommodates all size penises, as well as the portability and compaction of the design most don't considered. On cylinder size does not fit all. Most designing manufacturers do not guarantee the parts, as well as the instructions on how to use it. Compared to most pump set, it use a better quality pump, and trigger set.

Mind you that I'm only a volunteer here. I'm one of the brothers that uses parts and pay in full prices, with a little discount that's being offer to all the brothers. I'm here merely as the voice of reason, with knowledge to share, and to guide the brothers to the better days. I don't promote, but simply indicate the products of choice with the full support of the brotherhood that is using them. I simply point out what is available, and best to be supported by the brothers. I've gone through too many pumps, but the pumps are mainly user error due to the lack of instruction and supports.

C'mon, I am not that lowly person to think like that! I have already bought all MOS products. I am here to educate my self! We said I have ED not to be that lowly!!! C'mon!!
Can you tell me how can I have increased penis size for prolonged time even though its not permanent? I have found that if i see my penis enlarged from SSJ+PUMP it makes me happy. So... any solution on this? I am not hulk like DLD to do 3 x 5x5x3

Let's do this. Let's create your own routine and progress thread and let us know what you've done so we can track your progression. It's hard to go through all the posts you've done scattered all over. I'm an analytical mind person. I need all the info in one basket or at least access to them as needed in a location where I can see trends. We'll come up with solutions.

oldandlively said:

Let's do this. Let's create your own routine and progress thread and let us know what you've done so we can track your progression. It's hard to go through all the posts you've done scattered all over. I'm an analytical mind person. I need all the info in one basket or at least access to them as needed in a location where I can see trends. We'll come up with solutions.

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I have length master and bathmate and MOSRED. I have silisleeves and phallosan forte + extension which I hate it more than myself.
I just took my blood tests. The reason I have severe ED is the very high Prolactin levels which are high because of anti depressed and because of severe anxiety. Also my morning cortisol levels are elevated because of oxidative stress and chronic stress. No wonder I have ED problems LOL.

I want to know if ......if just pumping...... each day 10 mins SEPERATELY from 5x5x3 which i do each other day can help. Tell me what you want to know from me.

Stop..stop. this is great info. Do us a favor and recompile all this info into the routine and progress personal thread. This info will be scattered too far apart. Put the personal tracking thread here: