Several months... Still no gains

I've been at this shit like never before. 30+ min of girth a day (mostly clamping at that) and over and hour of stretching as hard as my arms will pull. It's had to have been over 4 months minimum, and nothing has changed. Every few weeks I up the intensity and still nothing. Starting to get pretty discouraged. Not that my dick is small or in embarrassed, but with all the work I've put in I should've seen some significant growth. I stick to all the strongest pulls we've discovered over the years on this forum and still nothing. Are some guys just meant to not grow?

There’s got to be a reason you’re not putting on gains and what we need to do is figure out what that is. Some men go a very long time training without gaining but they never come for help and eventually they fizzle out. I’m glad you came for help I think with some adjustments we can make things happen for you. Let me know what your routine is right now exactly as you do it time and reps, etc. let us have a look through everything and see where things can improve or change so you can start making gains .

I do more than an hour of super hard stretching. V stretches, A stretches, __________ stretches, pretty much all the best shit this forum has come up with in the last few years. My girth work is all clamping, clamped jelqs, clamped bends, all the extreme stuff that got redzulu where he is. Some times I'm too tired to do length and girth in one day, but some times I clamps before stretches. I tried to start slow thinking I could be over training, but as I watched no gains come I got more and intense with my workouts. I'm not sure what more to do it except invest in more tools, but clamping is one of the best things there is and it's not doing what I need. Plus, I'm about to try to file for bankruptcy so buying more stuff is out of the question right now lol.

dmoney101 said:

I do more than an hour of super hard stretching. V stretches, A stretches, __________ stretches, pretty much all the best shit this forum has come up with in the last few years. My girth work is all clamping, clamped jelqs, clamped bends, all the extreme stuff that got redzulu where he is. Some times I'm too tired to do length and girth in one day, but some times I clamps before stretches. I tried to start slow thinking I could be over training, but as I watched no gains come I got more and intense with my workouts. I'm not sure what more to do it except invest in more tools, but clamping is one of the best things there is and it's not doing what I need. Plus, I'm about to try to file for bankruptcy so buying more stuff is out of the question right now lol.

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First thing that comes to mind -How do you measure? I would be surprised if not at least your BPFSL has increased, if it has it might be an EQ problem why you dont see your gains manifest in BPEL because of overworking.

Hey one important thing I read one time was before any pe you should always be able to get 100% erect if you can’t youre probably fatigued and you should give yourself some rest days. With that being said you do not own any pe equipment? Length master as you may already know ups your stretching intensity pretty much to all you’ll ever need. I personally love the bathmate products as they have always worked and given me gains. Just don’t get discouraged you’re in the right place the brotherhood and we’ll all help as much as we can. Also They say if your bpfsl gets longer that’s a good indication of gains to come to keep an eye on that too dmoney anyways this just my point of view from someone still learning pe himself hoped that helped.!

Great advice above!

You could be overworking and maybe that’s the issue and the only way you’ll know is by giving yourself rest days. But I rarely hear that someone was over training and then they lack gains, it usually doesn’t make a lot of sense. If your training and your training hard you should be making steady PE gains. For some brothers they don’t make gains using their hands when they switched to a equipment based routine they start making gains. The best routine that I’ve ever created uses a combination of both. SRT is the magic for brothers that don’t make gains using their hands. but when they switch to a equipment based routine they start making gains. The best routine that I have ever created uses a combination of both equipment and manual work, SRT is an amazing work out and it bring gains to all who use it consistently. It may look overwhelming at first but it really isn’t, when you just look at the exercises and the equipment use you can see there’s not as much work as it seems. What SRT does is it uses equipment and exercises smarter and and sequences that makes sense. Have a look through the routine and let me know what you think or if you have any questions. Take your time and really take it in because there’s a lot of details it should be understood. SRT gives you the secrets to gaining and healing in the fastest possible way.

There is a school of thought in the general fitness community currently that endorses never doing more than 80% max "reps/weight" in any given session. Seeing the load of work you are putting in, I don't question your drive or dedication: that is clearly there.

I think you may actually be in a loop where you don't have enough recovery time, and possibly not the exercises that work well for YOU. Hanging works for me. Bathmate and SSJ's work for me. The Length Master is amazing because it makes my sessions just that much more efficient! I do relatively SHORT sessions, and I gain. And I take a bunch of off days.

I would mix it up, and try to relax and ENJOY the sessions. When it's "work" it adds a tension to the situation that innately makes it stressful.

When I walk into a session with the mindset of "I am going to have fun, feel good, and make gains in the process" it is a whole different story.

Just like any sport, the mental aspect is on par with the physical...

My 2 cents

MCBLZ said:

There is a school of thought in the general fitness community currently that endorses never doing more than 80% max "reps/weight" in any given session. Seeing the load of work you are putting in, I don't question your drive or dedication: that is clearly there.

I think you may actually be in a loop where you don't have enough recovery time, and possibly not the exercises that work well for YOU. Hanging works for me. Bathmate and SSJ's work for me. The Length Master is amazing because it makes my sessions just that much more efficient! I do relatively SHORT sessions, and I gain. And I take a bunch of off days.

I would mix it up, and try to relax and ENJOY the sessions. When it's "work" it adds a tension to the situation that innately makes it stressful.

When I walk into a session with the mindset of "I am going to have fun, feel good, and make gains in the process" it is a whole different story.

Just like any sport, the mental aspect is on par with the physical...

My 2 cents

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Same with penis enlargement, different schools of thought exist. I have never seen guys consistently keep gaining going intense with high volume routines .... you need REST, because REST = GROWTH.

Guys who did 7 on for months or years and gained, must have not been so balls to the wall in every session ... they must have eased off at some point.

@dmoney I think its time you switched to an entirely different routine, with just 2-3 exercises in for now.

You cant afford equipment, that is fine .. use your hands, but if you can afford it, please save up for the MOS member paysite, as you get all the videos and great stuff exclusive to MOS members.

If you want help with a routine by all means ask. I have a thread in the newbie section on routines, might help ... you may have used it? DLD newbie routine.

Write a new thread in the newbie section with how much time you got to spare, what you want to target i.e length, girth and all that other shit so I can work something out.

MCBLZ said:

Just like any sport, the mental aspect is on par with the physical...

My 2 cents

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There are three aspects of gaining
1. Mental
2. Phisical
3. Healing

All three of these are equal in their importance to gaining size and the remaining consistent.

dmoney101 said:

I've been at this shit like never before. 30+ min of girth a day (mostly clamping at that) and over and hour of stretching as hard as my arms will pull. It's had to have been over 4 months minimum, and nothing has changed. Every few weeks I up the intensity and still nothing. Starting to get pretty discouraged. Not that my dick is small or in embarrassed, but with all the work I've put in I should've seen some significant growth. I stick to all the strongest pulls we've discovered over the years on this forum and still nothing. Are some guys just meant to not grow?

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You should try an extender. And look for extenders:

*That are cheap (maybe via MOS)
*companies who will give you your MONEY BACK (when there are no gains)
*extenders with a good support in the PE world.

Extender wil bring you slowly to a traction force when you follow their instructions while adding the rods.

So no more exercises that you decide. One day deciding to do more because you feel like it and one day do less and so one. No more of that.

Just follow the instructions and let the stretching do his thing.

I have strong feeling that this is the way for you.

Manually stretches (couple minutes strech and letting the tunica loosen again) vs. Device Stretching (that let's the stretch for 1,5 hours before letting the tunica loos)

Option one will let someone gain. Option to will let another person gain


Maybe you find out that option two is the kind of person you are.

Maybe that's why you haven't included hanging in your routine (I've never done that) but its an 'attacking the tunica 1,5hours before letting loos" exercise. So that's why I think you that kind a guy. The 1,5 lacks in your PE

I haven't a clue about your girth gains why they don't come. But don't be surprised that girth gains are also made with a extender Maybe half of the users did

I wish you luck

doublelongdaddy said:

There are three aspects of gaining
1. Mental
2. Phisical
3. Healing

All three of these are equal in their importance to gaining size and the remaining consistent.

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Visualization is key especially with expressive stretching. I picture that inner penis slowly moving forward like a freight train creeping forward when I do the erect stretches while ok-grip pushing against the pubic bone
(forgot the name for this, but you came up with it ?).

Whooo Whooo!

Money, where are you my Brother? Some real good advice hear.

Well I hope you are ok. I really was looking forward to helping you with a new routine. I hope you stop back in.

Probably on holiday

REDZULU2003 said:

Probably on holiday

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I hope so because he just came back after such a long tiring being away and I really wanted to work with him for helping make games. I hope he comes back.

YOU'RE A GOOD MAN, DLD.

fraternize said:

YOU'RE A GOOD MAN, DLD.

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❤️ God Bless You

So I've been away, lots of life shit going on, but I've been stretching. Still no growth. The biggest difference are when I take rest days and my eq is back to 100% in the morning. Last month I started taking it a bit easier to see if I was over training. No growth yet. One good thing though is that cutting out beer and switching to liquor has flattened my stomach and I lost 10 lbs of straight fat, so it at least looks bigger. Haha

How much time do you have during the day free that you can dedicate to PE? And do you own any equipment? What is your privacy situation? Let me know these things so let me see what I can do for you as far as writing out a routine and getting the equipment to you that you may need.

With my new job, I have 0 privacy and 0 time that I can think of. I just started last Monday, so that might be the end of my pe career for quite some time. The most I might have is an hour. Unless I get lucky and in 2 weeks I'll get to change my schedule which will give me a few hours of alone time.
The only device I've got is a clamp.