Rooster4889;467796 said:
my dream goal is 8x6nbp I think the 6 inch girth is a big ask from my starting point though.

Well the ending point will be a glorious day but I guaranty you that it will be a new beginning because we always want more:) The journey is the fun, who wants to get to the end! You will make your goal and your insecurities will fade through your own ability to grow to LOVE yourself in All Ways!
 
Depression is an evil bitch man, that crap will get you nowhere man, start jelquin is good try the newbie routine get the MOS dvd ask DLD, open your mind man, erase the suicidal toughts off your head,Be disciplined and you will see gains!
 
Dont you worry i have spent 10 years depressed haha i remember when i measuredyears ago fucking depression killed me
 
shortdick;610951 said:
Dont you worry i have spent 10 years depressed haha i remember when i measuredyears ago fucking depression killed me

Unfortunately depression is usually a life sentence. The biggest advice I can give is to remain hopeful and really take advantage of the times that bring joy and try to ride them out as long as possible. Depression is the ultimate self lie, the best way to defeat it is to challenge the negative thoughts with the truth. The more we are able to see the real truth the less we spend in the whirlwind of depression.
 
doublelongdaddy;611109 said:
Unfortunately depression is usually a life sentence. The biggest advice I can give is to remain hopeful and really take advantage of the times that bring joy and try to ride them out as long as possible. Depression is the ultimate self lie, the best way to defeat it is to challenge the negative thoughts with the truth. The more we are able to see the real truth the less we spend in the whirlwind of depression.

brilliant advice!
 
Now that she is gone everything is coming back to me and I'm crazy depress. My ex girlfriend only thought I was good size. She said she wanted to be with me. However, due to my complete insecurity about the size of my penis, I was a mess and baggered. The best thing you can do is to take a positive step to helping what you percieve to be a problem. My starting BPenis EnlargementL was around 5.75 - my girth around 5 - and by the time I decided to start Penis Enlargement, I had already fucked 100+ girls, never once had an issue with sex etc. Trust me - most of the time there is nothing wrong about the size when it comes to sex, its more for you.
 
For what is worth...I started at the exact size as you back in 2005...
Now i have increased my penile volume by 250% which means i have 2.5 cocks now...just increase it by 2% per month volumewise and you will see...

It is not crazy difficult to get 5" in 6 months period with the newbie gains and 0.5" length. This would put you in the above average category..
Now volume wise you are about 40% in the most strict percentage even here. With 6.5"nbp and 5" you would be top 20%.
After this point you would be nicely sized as a 6 foot tall person is considered nicely tall.

However, there is nothing wrong with you current size. Imagine that 4/10 people are shorter and as thin or thinner than you.
Of course most girls will have bigger but thats no excuse to stay a virgin.. I could understand it if you were 4nbp by 3.0" around... but now...no way!!!

Just go with the newbie routine and make PE your lifestyle and in 2-3 years you will be well above average in girth and most definitely in length!!!
 
Pe is an amazing gift but discipline,belief,a positive state of mind are important,if we want to see gains...i started almost 7 years ago i had this 5.some inches n i was dissapointed n frustrated,didnt know what to do or how could i find a solution to my concerns,now years later im 7.25 Bpel n im not happy whit my size yet.but im not that short as i used to be.....
 
no matter how small you see yourself as, or how unfair you feel your starting size is,
there is always someone with less
and someone who grew more to get to the size, or past the size, you want to be.
 
most importantly ....your growing ....in size which will help grow in life....

lol

YOUR SIZE WILL HELP YOU GROW IN LIFE....i think this should be my signature line:s
 
owmaballs;644054 said:
no matter how small you see yourself as, or how unfair you feel your starting size is,
there is always someone with less
and someone who grew more to get to the size, or past the size, you want to be.

thats is something real we are all going to find people bigger and smaller than us........
 
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When we have Matters of Size where we start is not where we be...with hard work everyone has a shot at their goals.
 
Rooster4889;465589 said:
Im 6x4.6 nbp, the insecurity has been in my mind for as long as I can remember, I'm 22 and still a virgin, mainly because of this insecurity, I can accept the length but I'd still want at least 7", but its the girth that gets me down, it looks so thin and pathetic in the mirror, when I look around here at people starting stats it seems everyone starts at 5"+ in girth, I wish I could start from there because just a 0.5 inch gain would start to put me in the big category, but with my size I'd have to gain an inch which looking around here seems difficult.

Ive never stuck at a routine, by nature I'm a very sceptical person and in the back of my mind I'm always telling myself that this cant work, I'd just like to ask has any of you started so small in girth and are now big? I need motivation, I feel like if I have sex that I will be insignificant and today I even started to get suicidal thoughts because I really need to change my situation, Ive tried to cut out ����, I think that is the first step, the second is to start a routine and stick with it, the third, I think I need to work on my overall confidence.

I am sorry my man. But you will get tough love from me because i truly believe that is what you need now.

Look at my signature if you have the need to know where i started. And since i have outdated my signature you can use the link in my signature to my thread to see where im at at the moment.

Im sorry mate. Somewhere along the way someone told you a terrible lie.

"Life is easy"

It is not. Life will throw shit at you.

You can do 1 of 2 things.

1. Whine about it.
2. Deal with it.

I have a story i heard the other day i would like to share.

A farmer had a donkey. And one day the donkey fell down the old dryed out well.

The other farmers gathered around. Looked down on the donkey. And concluded that the donkey was old anyway and saving it would be a waste.

So instead they simply decided to burry the donkey in the old well. Get rid of 2 problems at the same time.

The donkey was screaming and scared. And as the dirt started to hit its head it panicked screamed even more. Realizing its fate had been zealed.

After half an hour of throwing dirt down the well. The farmers realized the donkeys screams where getting closer. One of them looked down to realize that every time they threw dirt down the well. The donkey would shake it off stomp on it. And be a few inches higher.

Eventually the well was covered and the donkey got its freedom.

Morale of the story?

People will throw dirt at you. It is your choice what you want to do with it!

I started with a smaller lenght than you

And i was the guy here advocating that size didn't matter when it came to satisfying girls. Why?

I was working as a bouncer had plebty of chicks i could give all of them orgasms. So i concluded: it works for me. So no problem!

Now im bigger. And yes size does make sex better there is no denying that.

But it doesnt make sex go from being "naah"

To being "best sex eva!"

Its icing on the cake. Really.

You want to satisfy girls. Learn some tricks on how to fuck chicks and get some practice!!

And trust me on this mate (i bet you everyone in here will agree)

A guy who knows how to fuck. But has a small penis. Is WAY better with the girls than a guy eith a huge cock who knows shit.

My last grow spurt i suddenly had girls interrupting sex because i was hurting them

My old size didnt do that. So i had to learn something new. I had to improve.

You want to be a newbie with a 7 inch cock? That's like giving a monkey a baseball bat! Recipe for disaster!


Mate.
I can guarantee you this!
You will always crave
more money
More girls.
Better house
Better car
Better physique
Better health.
Being smarter.
Bigger cock

This is human nature it is what has driving us to the point where we started to pop people out in space. A constant need for improvement.

Congratulations! You're normal!

So what? You need to be unhappy no matter what?

No! You need to take pleasure in the travel my friend.

You never hear people coming home from a nice vacation telling how they came home. They tell about all the things they experienced down there

You ask a bodybuilder after a competition he will describe how much work he put into his results and how proud he was seeing this journey climaxing here!

Mate! You are looking for the magic pill! And sorry it doesn't exist and if it does it always come with a bad bad side effect.

I was diagnosed with adhd.
And seen as aggressive i had teachers laughing at me when i told them about my plans in life.
I had a stuttering problem
I had a period where i couldn't maintain an erection during sex. And when i did i had a premature ejaculation.
I was jaloux.
And to tell you the truth i was a selfabsorbed dick. I wasn't a good friend
I was homeless for a period!
I am "uneducated" (i don't got any certificates but i have probably read more books than 99% of the population have by now)

And one day i was swimming around in my self induced agony. Feeling ohh so sorry for myself. And i realized. Suicide is the way to go! So i planned it.

Even with this evil thought of "now they will feel sorry for what they did to me" (how fucked up is that?)

But a thought stopped me.

And an internal conversation started:
(A little drama is added for the viewers! If you need some extra spice imagine the unnamed voice is samuel jackson. I was going with morgan freeman at first. But sam just know how to throw a better motherfucker! )

"Congratulations you have reached the bottom. Finally you got here!"

Me: "what? Who is this and what do you mean? This is a win?"

"Im you. And you are me. Well. Im actually more you than you are. You see you stopped following yourself, me, you allowed other peoples opinions decide for you. And therefor you are something else. You are in chains. You have lost me (you) and now you are trying to kill me. To get out of them. That is a little dramatic don't you think?"

Me: " i don't understand much of this?"

"During your life you have allowed people to tell you what was wrong with you. You had too much energy so you got a diagnosis.
You stood you ground against bullies. But you couldn't argue because you studdered. So you got a new label "agressive" you have blocked new info because you always assumed to fail.
And now. After years of self sabotage you decide to finally finish the job and kill yourself. Is that what you want?"

Me: "but im a failure and life has never been good to me. There is no need to keep on fighting im gonna lose anyway!"

"Hahahahaha now that's the joke of the century! You have the potential to become great. Just like everyone else. No one is special. But someone believe they are. And so a thought becomes an action that becomes a habbit that becomes a result. And one day success is archived. But the question is are you ready to archive success?"

Me: "But im at the bottom! I have archived nothing! You said this yourself! You celebrate me hitting rock bottom like some sick twisted sadistic joke! And you claim to be me. Why don't you help me instead?"

"Because you never asked for my help! I am limitless i can archive anything. But only if you let me. And you didn't! you are not asking for help! You are asking for emphaty. You need people to feel sorry for you. So that you can feel "accepted" like a dog begging for the scraps. You don't want success you get terrified by the thought of it. So instead you hide behind this facade of excuses and limits you have shackled yourself in! You are weak!"

Me: " but i got nothing im at bottom and now you torment me! You tell me i can't handle success! And that im weak! And this should help me?"

"Hahaha you don't realize it do you? You are standing at the greatest moment of your life and yet your society has made you blind to what you see! You look at the bottom like it is a curse like it is a punishment of the ohh so cruel world that has thrown you down here to dispair! But what i see. What you need to understand. Is that nothing was build from the top! You have 2 options.
1. Start building your fundament! Become me! Become great! There is literally nothing to lose. you where throwing everything away anyway. So do it! Every step up the ladder is a success. Heck if you die in the process you have still archived more! You have no strings NOTHING can stop you now. You cannot fall anymore. There is only 1 way from here and that is up! You think rock bottom is bad? Let me tell you. Most people never get to this place most people keep living in denial of their true self. Their true worth. Who they are what they can archive. They never get to the point where the pain is so much that they end up down here. No they will dull the pain with pills and material goods pretending life is good. But secretly they are all fucked! They hate life. They are just too scared to end it! You pity you? I pity them! Ignorant people surviving instead of living. Never being able to breath deeply and taste the world that is theirs!"

Me: "you said there was 2 options?"

"Motherfucker i just gave you a pep talk that would make al pacino look like he needs acting lessons! Go live your life or im gonna kick your ass!"

Dialog ended here.

I still remember the day this all happened. It felt real even though it was just an internal dialog.

Today i don't studder anymore (i got it fixed with hypnosis)

I just had a 2 week fully payed training trip to the us (let me tell you first class flying across the atlantic is highly recommendable)
My ex girlfriend is a doctor. The one before that a model.
i just stopped fucking an old friend because i realized that lately i enjoy training much more and i am getting places with my body that is fucking great and i love and enjoy this journey. I don't believe in the concept "friendzone"

Currently i don't work. But im getting payed more money for being standby than anyone i know is being payed for actually working.
I can get just about any girl talked into my bed.

When i walk into a room i feel people are getting intimidated by me.

Today i had a conversation with my mom. She talked about the rough paths i had been through in my younger years. And how proud she was of what i had become. Ending the conversation with " i wish your old school teacher could just see where you are now!" i told her i didn't care. I wouldn't get anything out of telling a negative human that they are negative. She wouldn't understand it anyway.

But most importantly. I have helped. God knows how many people to get their shit together. And do something with thier life.
This is one of the greatest feelings in the world. And as you start your own journey you will also realize that giving people the right help is the biggest gift you can give yourself. And it will make you evolve faster than anything else can.

Ok ye im boosting my self here mate. Telling you how awesome my life is.

But i have a reason!

I was you! The first 1 and a half year of pe i wasted on trying to find evidence that pe worked. (Instead of just fucking do it)

Im sorry life knocked you down. But you need to get the fuck up and do something about it!

Or else! Im gonna find you and kick your ass!
 
On a more practical note do this!

Take measurements.

Erect lenght. Bone pressured erect lenght
Flaccid lenght.
Flaccid girth. erect girth.

Go into the routine forum. And post these stats.
Now find DLD's beginner workout. And do that for 3 months
And post in your thread everytime you workout. How it feels what is happening thoughts etc.

If you can do this for 3 months. Without getting any results at all.

Then congratulations! You will be the first man i have seen on this forum who could do that (and i have been here for a while now)

And mate. At this point you will have payed.... Absolutely fucking nothing to anyone on this forum. And no one will expect you to buy anything or pay for anything.

Now going more advanced after this. Sure we got tools that will help the process. But mate that is it this is where the money is (you said you where skeptical. So please. Use this logically) Why the hell would i post 800+ posts on a forum that has never given me a dime. With something that doesn't work anyway? Now if your skeptically. This should make you think twice.

Give it a shot. It is 3 months..... You got anything to lose??? :)

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Ohh and you need the bone pressured flsccid lenght aswell that is really important!
 
Thank you for your words Bro...your words are awakening my soul specially these days...I feel blessed being part of this Brotherhood:)
 
Why the hell would i post 800+ posts on a forum that has never given me a dime. With something that doesn't work anyway? Now if your skeptically. This should make you think twice. hahaha why would be a part of this too..Good question
 
shortdick;644231 said:
Why the hell would i post 800+ posts on a forum that has never given me a dime. With something that doesn't work anyway? Now if your skeptically. This should make you think twice. hahaha why would be a part of this too..Good question

You and thousands of others....if this shit did not work MOS would not be hear!
 
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