Converting an X40 to hand valve or vacuvin

Any of you ever convert one of these to a hand valve or vacuvin, first thing is how do I get the old valve unit out? The cap and twist out valve are easy, but the piece down in the tube with the spring is a tough one.

I just left the spring-piece alone...took The VV cork and placed it where the valve used to be and then used an 'O' ring/gasket/washer for a compression-fit. Once you develop a bit of pressure, the VV cork stays in-place.
GL

You'll laugh, but I glued a piece of plastic pipe in there, and attached a brake bleeder hose hand pump to it. Works great for a minute or two, then water makes it's way from overflow cannister to hand pump, loses pressure, and back to the drawing board... Looks like I'm now stuck with having to remove the actual spring valve, and try to get the vv in that. Have a cool wine stopper attachment that I'm sure will work, but getting the old valve out... Damn! Can imagine walking in a hardware store saying "think we can get this out of my 'bath tub' attachment?" Lol!

ouch!! what you can try and do is very carefully chuck a drill-bit into your cordless 18v Dewalt or Porter Cable, and slowly 'chew-away' at the spring-loaded plastic valve until it collapses and can be pushed/wedged-out of its seat.
Lemme know how that goes, cuz I've often contemplated doing that very mod

Ok, we're doing good. All it took was me pushing a kitchen knife down around the seal of the valve (inside the Bathmate), which seemed to make it easier to push the entire valve out of the top. I used a long screwdriver, and it came out pretty easy. The o ring is what holds it in place, mainly. Am now going to the hardware store. This might turn out well! Lol

Btw big Schwanz, am wondering where I'm gonna hide this contraption when it's done! Lol!

Forgot to mention, the main valve housing is also held in place by the spring. Enough steady pressure from the inside, and the entire thing will pop out of the top. Is pretty easy. Now getting pressurized, and staying that way.... Hope it works!

Devildog0311;725431 said:

You'll laugh, but I glued a piece of plastic pipe in there, and attached a brake bleeder hose hand pump to it. Works great for a minute or two, then water makes it's way from overflow cannister to hand pump, loses pressure, and back to the drawing board... Looks like I'm now stuck with having to remove the actual spring valve, and try to get the vv in that. Have a cool wine stopper attachment that I'm sure will work, but getting the old valve out... Damn! Can imagine walking in a hardware store saying "think we can get this out of my 'bath tub' attachment?" Lol!

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Devildog0311;725440 said:

Btw big Schwanz, am wondering where I'm gonna hide this contraption when it's done! Lol!

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storage is always a challenge...I have a PE box that can house both BM's, my LM and all the parts/pieces that make it sing (VV pump, extra corks, theraband, ace bandage, condoms used for compression, hair-tie/CR's, etc.). When I need to be in 'stealth-mode', the whole enchilada gets neatly tucked-away...far away from any Nosy-Nancy's

Get an oversized tool box and store there and lock it up. No one will think there is anything there but tools, and they would not be wrong

I use the casing that came with my Extreme X30, it has good amount of space for more than just the BM.

But the toolbox idea is pretty good! I would also possibly put some silica bags (do not eat -bags, hehe) inside the tool case, to wick away possible excess moisture.

Mainly at home I have my tools and fun toys in few different locations, usually within a hands reach, at least the ones I use more often. So far not too many nosy people, I think, but yeah, I do agree that arranging your PE tools can be a challenge at times.

Good work so far Devildog!
Would be interesting to see a picture of the final product.

This thing is puzzling me. I'll get it to pressurize with the vacuvin, but the vacuvin isn't pressed into the Bathmate housing (won't hold pressure that way), it's at the end of a piece of clear rubber tubing. (glued in place, so no leaks, but is now permanent) I can either ditch the effort, and order a complete valve kit (but how? Bathmate doesn't even return emails. Their message says "someone will be contacting you soon." That's was weeks ago, and three tries, so ordering the internal valve should be interesting..)
My ultimate goal is to convert it to either the ball valve that the new ones have, or go hard core, and use this hand pump brake bleeder kit from Harbor Freight tools. It has a pressure gage, and as a former semi pro bodybuilder, I know it's all about adding just a tiny bit more resistance every time.. I have no doubt that this hand brake bleeder kit would be bad ass with that pressure gage to monitor, and use to SLOWLY increase intensity. (trust me. The pushing back motion into the public bone to pressurize is DANGEROUS! Had an injury about eight months ago, and yes, three urology appointments, plus the emergency room trip that was a total embarrassment. Thought about posting more about it, but going from almost 8.5" down to 5.9" overnight was a bit of scare, and I couldn't even focus, nor get past the embarrassment to type it all out. Am back up to where was before, but it has been a long ride back. Also, Bathmate doesn't want to address this issue by even attempting to contact me back, and I have photos, and all the medical records they'll ever want in order to show them that their product is dangerous if pushed back against the public bone in order to create pressure. For those of you who need customer service from Bathmate, or who need good luck. Great product, works as advertised, however, the pushing motion was a bad idea, and it's obvious from my injury, and the fact that others have done the same, and now they come out with the actual fix which is the ball valve, and at the same time, they refuse to contact those of us who would like to prove to them that their old product is dangerous. Again, good luck to those of you who try to contact them with anything other than a purchase.)

Hi Dog,
Thanks for sharing about your injury. I have been cautious in this regard since I got my new pump 2 weeks ago.
What was the nature of the injury? Were the urologists able to determine what had happened physiologically?
If you are willing to share your experience, it might help others who are concerned about this!
Thanks

The pressure and the pushing back motion caused veins to be pulled forward into the penis. Originally thought I had torn the ligament on the right side, but wasn't it. Surgery not necessary, but for months, sex was difficult due to the pain, plus had to take loads of Cialis and Viagra. Size did start coming back rapidly, but there were times where sex would "inflame" the injury, and I'd run around with a six inch dick for a few days. Hot wraps constantly, massage it, apply tons of vitamin e oil, took enough natural anti inflammatory stuff to start a store, and even to this day, the right side looks like a veiny dick when the left side looks completely normal. I don't recommend the Bathmate whatsoever unless it's equipped with the hand valve which will take away the need to push back for pressurization. I am also pissed off at them for their complete disregard of this issue. There are others out here who have done the same thing, and I would think the company would want to at least acknowledge the chance that injury can occur due to the pushing back into the pubic bone, but that would also be an admission on their part, so there's that. I'm not the type to sue, and have never been in a lawsuit. I will say, however, their complete disregard of this does show a lack of integrity, and I'm not into that at all.
So would I own a Bathmate? Sure. With the hand valve, or with some other way to pressurize it, yes. But I will caution. If using it, and "it just doesn't feel right," set it down, and come back another day. Best example, when I jelq, I'm searching for a certain feeling. A certain stretch-type of feeling.. If that doesn't start to show up, I don't continue to jelq. I immediately stop, stretch, do a hot wrap for fifteen minutes, and that's that. Will come back another day. With the Bathmate, the best way I can describe "the correct" feeling, or correct form was when I could feel a nice stretch all the way up to the glans, and not my brain saying "how much longer, it doesn't feel right.." When in there, and pressurized, erect, etc., the feeling would almost be on the verge of decent amount of pressure, but just a very mild hint of pleasurable, "this feels kinda good" thoughts. Is about the best way I can describe it..
As for the negative side, to continually grow a muscle, it needs continual, increased loads placed upon it. The body gets used to the current load quicker than I can even describe! And when the body gets used to the load, what happens? Nothing. No growth occurs. So.. If Bathmate would actually contact me back about my original issue, maybe a former semi professional bodybuilder could help them work a pressure gauge into the line coming out of tube, near the hand valve. Why? Would be genius. Would be talking about creating progress that could literally be tracked, and ever so slightly increased, month after month. We're talking about going from complete guesswork (that's what we're doing with the Bathmate, and amounts of pressure every time.) No one knows precisely how much pressure they're using, and how much MORE needs to be added next month, and so on.. If we actually knew, we could dial the progress up very slowly, preventing injury, and increasing hypertrophy to levels that would blow minds! But the problem is, sometimes too little pressure is applied, and other times, way too much. Not good! Trust me, not good... Can you imagine me training your Wife to bench press 95lbs, then the very next workout, I've got her set up to bench 185? That's precisely what's happening with the Bathbate, and it's dangerous.
1. Put a hand valve on there to pressurize it, and eliminate the need to push into the groin, and we're onto something. (Wait! They did that. Fixed that problem! Glad to see)
2. Add a pressure gauge in line that reads in small increments, so that pressure amounts can be extremely precise each time, and can be increased in very (VERY!) small amounts. Hell, make three different gauges. Red, blue, and green. Make it to where a beginner may use the blue one for a year and half, then max it out, and move up to the green one, then the red one, etc.,
3. Actually provide customer service. Is sad that they refuse to answer back loyal customers who entrusted to buy the product, and simply want someone to talk to when an issue arises. Interesting...
So yes, I would buy the product if these three conditions existed (as of recent, looks like #1 has been achieved, and am glad to see that.)

Oh, forgot to mention. Got out of shower earlier, watched a video recent girl sent me, massaged Vitamin e oil, etc., got full erect, and measured. 7.8" That's a full half inch less than before. And here's the psychological gripe! The girl I'm hanging out, with had a recent fwb with a fucking massive 11" dick! Is as fat as my wrist, and as long as my entire forearm. I didn't believe her, and she showed me a pic. Jesus! My original thought was "does DLD live in Texas? Lol! Nonetheless, just that extra half inch getting me back up close to eight and half is like Mars and Venus difference. I'm a Tantric Practitioner, so have numerous, countless ways to stroke it, and she squirts everywhere, but I still know one thing.. Would be better to come at her with eight and half inches vs a half inch less! She's the rarest freak who actually likes it pushed in all the way, and hard pounding, and here I am still not where I was before the injury! Damn, damn, damn! If I hadn't been studying and practicing Tantra for the last twenty plus years, my confidence would be so bad, would have never even met her to begin with. She says, "guys are scared of me." I'm not, but if didn't have a lot of sex training, I would be. Especially with less dick than before! I guess the moral of the story is, go at PE like a science, and take the intensity up S-L-O-W-L-Y! The Bathmates fatal flaw is there's no way to add just a tiny bit of pressure each time. There's no way to "gage" it, forgive the pun. But with a very precise dial type of gage, or even a digital one, the new hand valve (which they've done as of recent), and I can almost guarantee very serious results. Until they can come up with one with a true pressure gage, and actually return a simple email, I'll stick with manual Jelquing. Oh, maybe one of us should come up with an American made product with all of these attributes right of t of the box? Hmmmm! I do now live in the weirdest city in America, and bet I can find some people interested. Bathmate's ignoring all correspondence regarding this incident (they won't even return an email that says, "would someone from Bathmate please email me back." Nothing. Zero. I truly can't recommend this company for just this reason alone, not to mention the safety issues they're ignoring), has got me thinking that with my background, and living where the flesh light is made and manufactured (along with countless other adult things), bet I could get Bathmates attention with a product that blows theirs away as soon as it hits the streets...

holy crap, DD I had no idea you suffered so severely from the BM. My 1st 45 days were w/out the VV and I would press that gaiter into my pelvis w/all my might...I even pulled a rib-cage muscle doing it. Then I devised a short (@ 18") piece of PVC that would go over the valve and I could press against the shower wall using my body weight for the additional pressure I was attempting to get...I certainly never developed any kind of vein issue...weird!

K, back to your VV mod.

Now that you have the complete valve assembly removed, are you able to stuff the VV cork in the opening of the BM? Looking at mine, it seems like it would fit in there perfectly. Once the cork is situated, all you need to do is mount it and use the VV pump on the top of the cork and create as much pressure as you want (or can handle)...EZPZ

Hi DD,
Thanks for further explaining what happened. I'm not exactly sure still what the problem was, if it was from the force of the gaiter edge pressing into you, or that something internal was herniating into the penis?

BSA: If I try to convert my hercules with the vacuvin mod, do I retain the ability to instantly lose vacuum pressure? Ie is there still a safety release?
What exactly is removed from the top of the hercules to get the stopper in? And how do I remove it without damage so as to return to factory settings if so desired?

Thanks!

Big Schwanz Acht;725627 said:

holy crap, DD I had no idea you suffered so severely from the BM. My 1st 45 days were w/out the VV and I would press that gaiter into my pelvis w/all my might...I even pulled a rib-cage muscle doing it. Then I devised a short (@ 18") piece of PVC that would go over the valve and I could press against the shower wall using my body weight for the additional pressure I was attempting to get...I certainly never developed any kind of vein issue...weird!

K, back to your VV mod.

Now that you have the complete valve assembly removed, are you able to stuff the VV cork in the opening of the BM? Looking at mine, it seems like it would fit in there perfectly. Once the cork is situated, all you need to do is mount it and use the VV pump on the top of the cork and create as much pressure as you want (or can handle)...EZPZ

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Trust me, my exact thoughts were: "I guess I could always go live on a farm somewhere; grow a full beard, no more daily showers, and Jack what's left to old Playboys..." Lol now, but not eight months ago! Oh no! Girlfriend at the time was a very hot massage therapist, and also into Tantra. PLUS, turned out she was bisexual, and liked to bring around other little hot 25-45 yr old gals. I COMPLETELY promise it was no fun going from where i was to where I found myself the day after the injury! Damn! She noticed it, I was making excuses why we should wait til next time on the THREE other girls coming over! Yes, four girls and me.. Yes, life sucked! Took about three weeks to get back up to around 7.5 (inch and half that fast was kind of shocking, but it felt like there was something like a spring holding back the length, and I guess I "knew" the current condition was only temporary.) But to this day, looks like 7.8" maybe 7.9" (might, if lucky, hit the 8" mark during orgasm, but that's a stretch, forgive the pun.) So basically, I have to "re gain" another half inch, and damn, that's not a short amount of time to do! Have been showing current girl pics of when it was 8.4, and she's brutally honest. She said "looks like a different cock." I'm pretty sure she's trying to be nice, but would much rather have the bigger, as she is one of the rare who has to have size or won't even meet. Sometimes I look down and ask myself "where the fuck does she put three more inches?" (white dude too) She says she can take every inch, and has videos. No, I don't want to see those. Lol! The pics did enough. Lol

As for the vacuvin, all I can say is damn! Yes, it does fit right through the hole in the BM. Now here's the problem. The seal isn't tight enough to hold a vacuum. Not even close. It needs a spring around the vacuvin shaft, and an o ring under it just like the BM original valve housing. If there were a way that seal it, I'd be all set. Problem is, I would need to use hard core epoxy on it, and once that's done, the BM is forever modified. If for some reason the vacuvin failed, the entire BM would need to be thrown away. Am trying to work a rubber wine stopper with hole in it (bought from wine and beer brew store), but the damned rubber stopper is the exact same size (1/2"), as the BM original valve opening. I could use one of these, then attach a rubber hose to the vacuvin, and go at it, but I can't find a rubber piece of anything that will go down in the BM, and stay sealed without having to resort to epoxy. Is a quandary. Lol Im not giving up though. Im simply waiting for the lunatics around here to find their way home for the evening so I can drag new gf with me to Walmart. Hate that miserable place, but I bet there's something in that nightmare that will seal around the BM, and allow me to get a piece of tubing down in (which I will glue that part. Just no glue on the actual BM)

Bolden;725635 said:

Hi DD,
Thanks for further explaining what happened. I'm not exactly sure still what the problem was, if it was from the force of the gaiter edge pressing into you, or that something internal was herniating into the penis?

BSA: If I try to convert my hercules with the vacuvin mod, do I retain the ability to instantly lose vacuum pressure? Ie is there still a safety release?
What exactly is removed from the top of the hercules to get the stopper in? And how do I remove it without damage so as to return to factory settings if so desired?

Thanks!

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Yes, was from the edge of the BM pressing back. Basically pressing back with a hard edge, then pulling forward with vacuum is quite the bad idea. When erect, about 3/4 of the right side of me looks like a blue, veiny mess. Left side looks like perfect. Hate that. Will show new girl left side, then turn and she almost makes a face as the veins are quite there down the right side. One things for sure. If I can't modify it to accept a vacuvin, or other way to pressurize that doesn't require forcing it back into pubic bone, I wouldn't order the parts, and sell it. Wouldn't want anyone else to have this happen, which is rare, but absolutely happens thanks to the design - edge pushed into pubic bone, then suction pulling back other way. Veins and all which were being "held up" by the hard pushing back motion, now forced down into the penis via vacuum pressure. Kind of a perfect storm. Veins lifted and held up very unnaturally through force, then while lifted up, vacuum force is applied the other direction, and whatever is being "held up" by this edge, and pushing back motion is now right there for the vacuum to "catch." Hope I was able to describe this with some clarity. The urologist just shakes his head, and cringes when he looked up the BM (not the new one with ball valve), to see what I was trying to describe.

Bolden;725635 said:

Hi DD,
Thanks for further explaining what happened. I'm not exactly sure still what the problem was, if it was from the force of the gaiter edge pressing into you, or that something internal was herniating into the penis?

BSA: If I try to convert my hercules with the vacuvin mod, do I retain the ability to instantly lose vacuum pressure? Ie is there still a safety release?
What exactly is removed from the top of the hercules to get the stopper in? And how do I remove it without damage so as to return to factory settings if so desired?

Thanks!

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Almost forgot. Urologist told me no sex whatsoever. Went for a couple of weeks without, but am just now able to have normal sex again. Before that, would be out of commission for several days if I had sex, or in actuality, stroked it the wrong way, causing it to draw up, and damn... Mostly better now, but am still not back to normal size. Am not happy with Bathmate for ignoring all correspondence regarding this as well.