Question Girth question (- Will semi-erected bundles be enough?)

Hello! @limpeh
I moved this question here, because I do not want my video thread (🔗 SIM's videos and instructions) to be filled with to much randomness.
But I appreciate your question, it's an important question to be answered. I will do my best to explain. Let's also have a discussion about this.

limpeh said:

for the sole purpose of gaining girth (i gain length too easily), would bundling while semi erect but without stretching be enough?

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How easy do you gain length? 😆 (just kidding).
Short answer on your question: It would not be enough.

If you want girth gains and not length gains, you should only be focusing on girth work.
Doing bundles with a semi-erected penis would not be effective or fun, you risk hurting yourself.
If you do not have a pump (get one), SSJ's (Slow Squash Jelq's) is the exercise you want to do. A pump will really speed up your gains.

Preferably you want to do this program down below with a wide pump, see (*).
You do not want your penis to smash hard (expand hard) into the cylinder walls, because that will force your penis to start expanding more in length then in girth (your penis have only one way to expand into), so then you would in fact be working on length with a pump. You can view the expansion of your penis like a balloon. When in a pump, you force more expansion so your penis will expand both in girth and length.

From my experiences with Bathmate pumps, I only started to expand more in length when I had maxed out the width/girth of the cylinder. And maxing out the width is a good feeling, but you do not want that if you're working on girth only. You need to expand past your current Erected Girth ( the measurement outside the pump, with some days rest), in order for you to increase your Erected Girth and cement it to be bigger in the future. With repetitions it will happen.

It's a good idea to get a cylinder that is a little too big in diameter, then what you think you would need when your main goal is to increase your girth.
If you are over 5 Inch in EG (Erected Girth) I would suggest that you get a 2.5 Inch wide cylinder (diameter).

I can help you size out a cylinder if you need help with that.

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DLD said:

Girth Program: 5x5x3
5 Minute Slow Squash Jelq (video below)
5 Minutes in the Bathmate or MityVac at full intensity

5 Minute Slow Squash Jelq (video below)
5 Minutes in the Bathmate or MityVac at full intensity

5 Minute Slow Squash Jelq (video below)
5 Minutes in the Bathmate or MityVac at full intensity

Attach SilliRing to retain girth

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Hope this helps brother.

squirt_inducer_man said:

Hello! @limpeh
I moved this question here, because I do not want my video thread (🔗 SIM's videos and instructions) to be filled with to much randomness.
But I appreciate your question, it's an important question to be answered. I will do my best to explain. Let's also have a discussion about this.


How easy do you gain length? 😆 (just kidding).
Short answer on your question: It would not be enough.

If you want girth gains and not length gains, you should only be focusing on girth work.
Doing bundles with a semi-erected penis would not be effective or fun, you risk hurting yourself.
If you do not have a pump (get one), SSJ's (Slow Squash Jelq's) is the exercise you want to do. A pump will really speed up your gains.

Preferably you want to do this program down below with a wide pump, see (*).
You do not want your penis to smash hard (expand hard) into the cylinder walls, because that will force your penis to start expanding more in length then in girth (your penis have only one way to expand into), so then you would in fact be working on length with a pump. You can view the expansion of your penis like a balloon. When in a pump, you force more expansion so your penis will expand both in girth and length.

From my experiences with Bathmate pumps, I only started to expand more in length when I had maxed out the width/girth of the cylinder. And maxing out the width is a good feeling, but you do not want that if you're working on girth only. You need to expand past your current Erected Girth ( the measurement outside the pump, with some days rest), in order for you to increase your Erected Girth and cement it to be bigger in the future. With repetitions it will happen.

It's a good idea to get a cylinder that is a little too big in diameter, then what you think you would need when your main goal is to increase your girth.
If you are over 5 Inch in EG (Erected Girth) I would suggest that you get a 2.5 Inch wide cylinder (diameter).

I can help you size out a cylinder if you need help with that.

(*)


Hope this helps brother.

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thanks for the explanation man. the reason i say it's easy for me to gain length is cuz i intend to stop at 18cm. when i started, my bpel was maybe around 11-12cm, today it's 14cm+. i've been doing slow squash jelq (tried all angles before) & pumping, but they weren't effective as the lower part of my shaft is very stubborn. at this rate, i'll continue to be thickening the upper shaft only while having a thin lower shaft. the only expansion i feel is the pull of upper shaft below the glands, which lead to length gain, & i feel this a lot in bathmate. my erected girth is 2 inch in diameter while my mitivac pump is 2.25 inch in diameter. if i use the 2 inch cylinder, i'll expand onto the wall of the cylinders.

limpeh said:

thanks for the explanation man. the reason i say it's easy for me to gain length is cuz i intend to stop at 18cm. when i started, my bpel was maybe around 11-12cm, today it's 14cm+. i've been doing slow squash jelq (tried all angles before) & pumping, but they weren't effective as the lower part of my shaft is very stubborn. at this rate, i'll continue to be thickening the upper shaft only while having a thin lower shaft. the only expansion i feel is the pull of upper shaft below the glands, which lead to length gain, & i feel this a lot in bathmate. my erected girth is 2 inch in diameter while my mitivac pump is 2.25 inch in diameter. if i use the 2 inch cylinder, i'll expand onto the wall of the cylinders.

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No problem I understand.
Good work brother. I think it's strong of you to stop at 18 cm. Really strong to not get obsessed with it, like I have.

I believe I remember now. You tried to force expansion with a clamp?

Have you tried Bathmate without comfort insert and pumping to really high pressure. I'm sorry if you have told me about it before, but I have so much in my head now.

I removed the comfort insert in the beginning and I got insane expansion at the lower part of my penis after a while. It will not be comfortable. Have you tried hydro-pumping with MityVac. I have always felt like with water pumping you can force a lot more expansion, even If you get more fluid retention.

You had a wide Bathmate right? HydroXtreme Wide Boy 7 or HydroXtreme 9?

If so just force it get near the limit pressure wise slowly, and when your timer have counted down to 5 minute you have the most absolute pressure buildup. Do you expand into the rubber creases in the Bathmate without the comfort insert?

If you want to use the MityVac you probably need a wider. cylinder.

I tried to cover everything. I'm super tired so maybe I missed aome angle here. But let's figure this out.
Did you do bundled stretches to get your lemgth increase?

squirt_inducer_man said:

No problem I understand.
Good work brother. I think it's strong of you to stop at 18 cm. Really strong to not get obsessed with it, like I have.

I believe I remember now. You tried to force expansion with a clamp?

Have you tried Bathmate without comfort insert and pumping to really high pressure. I'm sorry if you have told me about it before, but I have so much in my head now.

I removed the comfort insert in the beginning and I got insane expansion at the lower part of my penis after a while. It will not be comfortable. Have you tried hydro-pumping with MityVac. I have always felt like with water pumping you can force a lot more expansion, even If you get more fluid retention.

You had a wide Bathmate right? HydroXtreme Wide Boy 7 or HydroXtreme 9?

If so just force it get near the limit pressure wise slowly, and when your timer have counted down to 5 minute you have the most absolute pressure buildup. Do you expand into the rubber creases in the Bathmate without the comfort insert?

If you want to use the MityVac you probably need a wider. cylinder.

I tried to cover everything. I'm super tired so maybe I missed aome angle here. But let's figure this out.
Did you do bundled stretches to get your lemgth increase?

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no worries man. i can't proceed with bathmate (xtreme 7, already removed comfort pad) as for some weird reason bathmate really amplify the burn in the slight peyronie area. i can't go full pressure on mitivac cuz of this too. my concerns is also if i go full pressure, will it continue to only amplify the upper shaft, cuz i don't feel any burn in the lower shaft but only my upper shaft (especially the slight peyronie area). i'm trying to stretch my ball sack to even the length of foreskin between both side hoping to solve the slight peyronie, but nothing happened so far. for context, my left shaft is slightly longer cuz the foreskin meet the skin of the scrotum at the lower end compared to the right. if i go wider cylinder for mitivac, i'm gonna suck in my balls at this rate instead of being able to pump higher pressure. hence i'm thinking of bundle stretch but without the stretch. the other alternative i can think of is perhaps buy a tapered (pyramid) cylinder?

limpeh said:

tapered (pyramid) cylinder?

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What is that?

But what is the expansion of your penis inside the tube. Is the expansion uneven? Do you not get any expansion at the base?

I understand about the Bathmate. I think I will not continue with using them, becouse the gator 🐊 is a really mean beast.

Yes the scrotum can be suced in. I did try a session with my cheep air pump today, it's 2.5 or maybe 2.6 Inch diameter. I tied a bandage around my scrotum, and then put my bottom on the remaining bandge, in that way I could keep a pulling force on my scrotum and preventing the scrotum from being sucked in. But it was beingsucked in a little bit.

limpeh said:

peyronie area

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So you have, some plaque on the shaft?
Have you considered non invasive treatment for it. Maybe that's the problem?

squirt_inducer_man said:

What is that?

But what is the expansion of your penis inside the tube. Is the expansion uneven? Do you not get any expansion at the base?

I understand about the Bathmate. I think I will not continue with using them, becouse the gator 🐊 is a really mean beast.

Yes the scrotum can be suced in. I did try a session with my cheep air pump today, it's 2.5 or maybe 2.6 Inch diameter. I tied a bandage around my scrotum, and then put my bottom on the remaining bandge, in that way I could keep a pulling force on my scrotum and preventing the scrotum from being sucked in. But it was beingsucked in a little bit.


So you have, some plaque on the shaft?
Have you considered non invasive treatment for it. Maybe that's the problem?

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there's no point in treatment as the culprint is cuz if you look at the base of my penis, the left foreskin that joins the scrotum sits lower than the right. so the left shaft is longer cuz of this. till i can lengthen the skin on the right, no amount of treatment will work as long as i still wanna pump.

the expansion is all even under pressure. but i feel burn in the upper shaft, not the lower. after exiting the pump, it's always the left side that get worked more. so my lower shaft is underworked already, the right lower side is even more so compared to the left. or else, i don't mind the gator. i dislike the fact that as i increase pressure, only the upper shaft, especially the left, feel the burn only. that's where i got my length gains from, from bathmate initially (hydro), when in fact it was supposed to help me gain even girth. now i only have less than 4cm before i hit 18cm.

a tapered cylinder is where the top part of the cylinder is smaller, giving the cylinder a pyramid look.

I think you attach the wrong photo?

squirt_inducer_man said:

I think you attach the wrong photo?

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that's frustrating lol as i've previously deleted that. let me reupload here:

When I pump with an air pump (the cylinder looks similar to yours) the upper part at the glans burn as you say, but there is no burning at the base. But there is much expansion. I don't believe it should burn in your entire penis.

Is this what is happening for you as well? Or do you get no expansion at the base?

limpeh said:

if you look at the base of my penis

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Have no means to do this.

limpeh said:

now i only have less than 4cm before i hit 18cm

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You may need to go past and/or implement a maintenance program in order to cement

squirt_inducer_man said:

When I pump with an air pump (the cylinder looks similar to yours) the upper part at the glans burn as you say, but there is no burning at the base. But there is much expansion. I don't believe it should burn in your entire penis.

Is this what is happening for you as well? Or do you get no expansion at the base?


Have no means to do this.


You may need to go past and/or implement a maintenance program in order to cement

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like i said, i have no prob gaining length & i have less than 4cm to achieve my desired length. concerns is can i build up enough girth before i hit that length. cuz i don't wanna shoot past 18cm & not gain much girth.

i see. i saw people on reddit said it burns their base when they pump. i only got expansion during pumping, no burn at base, but after pumping, it's only the upper shaft that's getting thicker & longer.

Do bundled stretches before girthwork and really loosen up the tissue with heat as well. Sit and stand in front a heating fan. Don't matter if you're living in a warm country, you want to really soften up your tissue with heat and bundled manipulation. This needs to be your warmup if you have problems with expansion. You need to make everything soft before girthwork.

squirt_inducer_man said:

Do bundled stretches before girthwork and really loosen up the tissue with heat as well. Sit and stand in front a heating fan. Don't matter if you're living in a warm country, you want to really soften up your tissue with heat and bundled manipulation. This needs to be your warmup if you have problems with expansion. You need to make everything soft before girthwork.

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squirt_inducer_man said:

Do bundled stretches before girthwork and really loosen up the tissue with heat as well. Sit and stand in front a heating fan. Don't matter if you're living in a warm country, you want to really soften up your tissue with heat and bundled manipulation. This needs to be your warmup if you have problems with expansion. You need to make everything soft before girthwork.

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ok. for the heating fan, what would you recommend? any specific type or heat levels?

limpeh said:

ok. for the heating fan, what would you recommend? any specific type or heat levels?

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I can't recommend one specific one due to the rules of this forum. But a small one made for cars with high air flow. MOS-RED would be very helpful as well for you. With these kind of wavelength you will get really good benefits as well.

This is one of the reasons for MOS-RED.
QUOTE from MOS Store.

MOSRED is an independent dual 660nm/850nm system that heals both skin coloration, wrinkles, veins, etc. and builds collagen to repair tissue, joint and muscle pain . You can perform treatments individually or combined with our dual unit.

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squirt_inducer_man said:

I can't recommend one specific one due to the rules of this forum. But a small one made for cars with high air flow. MOS-RED would be very helpful as well for you. With these kind of wavelength you will get really good benefits as well.

This is one of the reasons for MOS-RED.
QUOTE from MOS Store.

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duly noted

I am sorry but @squirt_inducer_man if I understood well, 5 mins of bundled stretches with an immediate warm-up with MOSRED will help before a girth-routine?

kriskros said:

I am sorry but @squirt_inducer_man if I understood well, 5 mins of bundled stretches with an immediate warm-up with MOSRED will help before a girth-routine?

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In my opinion this is smart. Loosening everything before girth will bring much better growth

kriskros said:

I am sorry but @squirt_inducer_man if I understood well, 5 mins of bundled stretches with an immediate warm-up with MOSRED will help before a girth-routine?

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Do this in front of a car interior heater with high airflow, and a tiny whining fan.
You need high heat and airflow in order to penetrate into your penis and inner penis.
MOS RED I only use as a device to heal and grow faster after session (15 minutes).

Also read the video instruction link.

squirt_inducer_man said:

Do this in front of a car interior heater with high airflow, and a tiny whining fan.
You need high heat and airflow in order to penetrate into your penis and inner penis.
MOS RED I only use as a device to heal and grow faster after session (15 minutes).

https://mattersofsize.com/media/get-into-btc-behind-the-cheeks-position-with-the-lengthmaster-3.1654/

Also read the video instruction link.

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can I achieve this you are saying with MOSRED? 10 or 15 mins?

DLD said:

In my opinion this is smart. Loosening everything before girth will bring much better growth

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Okay, if you say that, I will try - If it is better than just doing the girth routine alone.