Temp Girth gains?

habban;673853 said:

Yes i get that. Wonder what makes it fail then? I still am gaining though so it just seems weird.

I have mixed up a lot but this is basically what i do: warm up - bundled stretches - tunica tugs - dld stretches - squeezes - jelqing 10minutes ( v-jelq, ujs, regular, ssj )
And my own variation of supra slammers.
Done!

Right after my girth session yesterday my erect meg was still 11,5cm. 1hour later when i edged after reading this thread i had 11,7 meg instead.

When i do my jelqs i'm about 70-90% erect. Squeezes at 40-50% Ulis/supra slammers 100% ssj 90/100%

I have varied a lot but this is what i'm going to stay consistent with and see what happens.

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You have some length exercises there,why?Try to keep length and girth separated,puting them on the same routine won't be that effective.

Any girth exercise should be done at 100 % hard or close to that,try and stay in the 95-100 % area.This is what i recommend you to do :

Warm up
Bundles - 5 - 10 min
Jelqing + SSJ = Just play with them.You can do something like 10 min jelq + 10 min SSJ , 3 times,or something like that.30 min of girth workout should be great
Warm down
Cock ring applied at the base of the penis for as much as possible ( if you have no cock ring try and replace it with a shoelace or something like that )

Remember,stay as hard as possible.Watch ���� while doing the girth work to make sure you're 100 % hard.

Longth;673801 said:

For length the concept is retaining elongation. They're basically the same concept from SRT, but the methods are obviously different. For retaining elongation the most common method is wrapping. See the ace wrap or uncle Jim's strap for examples. Basically, the more you keep it stretched out the better your odds are at retaining the temporary length gains and converting them to permanent gains. It's also not easy and being relentless is really the best bet.

For the ring, I recommend putting it on while erect and make sure it's not so tight that an erection is painful. It should still be tight while erect so it is snug when you get flaccid. I would highly recommend an adjustable ring for all day uses. Just because it's going to vary a lot and it stands to reason that your size will change and you'll wish you had an adjustable ring to compensate for the gains.

I use something like this.

http://www.amazon.com/California-Exotic-Novelties-Lasso-Cock/dp/B0041HF4G

And if it gets to be irritating on the skin you can just get a strip of cotton to use as a barrier. I personally use a cotton polyester blend hand towel which I use as a loose wrap as well. Keeps me a little elongated and it makes it warm so I have that jelly state everyone loves to talk about pretty much all the time. That's just a suggestion. Just be aware you might want to prepare to use something for your comfort.

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Best answer!

Thank you all. How many days could you do girth exercises? I found them funny to do, was going for 1 on 1 off. But i feel i want do more somehow.

When you get comfy with them you can train everyday. I imagine you aren't so nooby just from looking at your regime

I'm close to 10 months in. And my EQ is great all the time, i guess i could handle some more.

Transition it like shifting gears on a car. Raise the rpm to a point where you have both great expansion, and great eq understand yes? If your eq starts to hurt from overtraining your expansion will suffer subsequently

I wonder.. About that theory that you shouldn't focus girth first because it will make length gains more difficult. Is that theory true?

Its a theory like everything else we discuss. The focus is how something works not why, so if your training works then no need to investigate further. Why make life more difficult instead do your routine everyday, and when something seems awry just report yourself:blush:

habban;673946 said:

I wonder.. About that theory that you shouldn't focus girth first because it will make length gains more difficult. Is that theory true?

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I get into the same questionings sometimes,but yeah overthinking can be counterproductive n sometimes can be useless too...

Better start your routine DLD has spent years working hard n researching n i think he s offering the best you can get..

To finish off, if i would like to get the best of both worlds, length and girth gains at same time spectrum. As i have knowledged i'm pretty decent gainer in both areas. How should i set up my routine? Not exercises, just how i should focus and what i should think about, tips. Basically how i should play my cards. Questions like should i do an entire length only routine in the morning and an entire girth only routine in the evening etc? And give me tips how to do this without the SRT method and devices for now. Haven't fixed those things yet.

Thanks

do both the same day girth n lenght if you have the time,is a great thing..

girth sessions are great cause you can stimulate your self n have a shooting at the end of your session..

once your penis is more malleable you can start whit your lenght routine...

habban;673957 said:

To finish off, if i would like to get the best of both worlds, length and girth gains at same time spectrum. As i have knowledged i'm pretty decent gainer in both areas. How should i set up my routine? Not exercises, just how i should focus and what i should think about, tips. Basically how i should play my cards. Questions like should i do an entire length only routine in the morning and an entire girth only routine in the evening etc? And give me tips how to do this without the SRT method and devices for now. Haven't fixed those things yet.

Thanks

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Slammers, size blasters, anything with a long duration uli. Stuff like that forces things out and up. Bundled stretching should be used before every routine. No days off. Instead just scatter less intense days every 3 days or so. Multiple sessions per day. Die hard consistency and a rigid schedule. Ring for girth retention. Wrapping for elongation retention. Kegels. Tons of kegels. Heat during down time. Creams for skin irritation. Pre fatigue. Eat right. Sleep well. Fitness training. Quit smoking.

The more of these little things you commit to, the better off you are. It's not easy, but if it were, everyone would be dld sized. Don't be overwhelmed either. A lot of it is just logical next steps for what you're already doing. So, while a list might seem daunting, the reality is really just a few simple extra steps.

Other option, just do what you've been doing to gain length but with a ton of kegels. Then go ham on girth work. Your eq would be crazy by then and the whole girth training experience would be so much easier. And doing lots of kegels goes great with length work if you do them enough to exhaust your pc muscle the whole day. Personally, if I didn't think I could get 8nbp by losing weight, this would be what I would do.

It's all your option. Take what you need and leave the rest as they say.

habban;673897 said:

Thank you all. How many days could you do girth exercises? I found them funny to do, was going for 1 on 1 off. But i feel i want do more somehow.

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What do you mean how many days?PE should be done everyday,only take a day off when you're injured,other reasons are just excuses.For the best and the fastest gains,train daily.

ChilDsh;673980 said:

What do you mean how many days?PE should be done everyday,only take a day off when you're injured,other reasons are just excuses.For the best and the fastest gains,train daily.

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Ye i have just heard that rest days are good for healing. And during healing the gains appear. If i tug on my dick 24/7 my penis will not get enough time to heal what has to be healed to visualize gains. You take rest days on the gym for same reason i guess?

habban;673988 said:

Ye i have just heard that rest days are good for healing. And during healing the gains appear

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But what do you believe?

habban;673957 said:

To finish off, if i would like to get the best of both worlds, length and girth gains at same time spectrum. As i have knowledged i'm pretty decent gainer in both areas. How should i set up my routine? Not exercises, just how i should focus and what i should think about, tips. Basically how i should play my cards. Questions like should i do an entire length only routine in the morning and an entire girth only routine in the evening etc? And give me tips how to do this without the SRT method and devices for now. Haven't fixed those things yet.

Thanks

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Yes,this is right,keep length and girth separated.You need different mind sets for each of them so putting them all together won't get as effective.

just how i should focus and what i should think about, tips.

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When you do length there is not much to thing about,you just stretch.Make sure you are as flaccid as possible and just stretch.

When you do girth on the other side you need to be in a sexual mood,you need to be as erect as possible.What i do before a girth workout ( 1 h - 30 min ) is , i start to enter that sexy mood.I start watching some NSFW picture for 1 min or something like that,just to prepare my brain and my dick to stay erect for the duration of the training.

And give me tips how to do this without the SRT method and devices for now. Haven't fixed those things yet.

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I will try to give you the best manual routine possible for you,but remember,if you have no devices and you do not follow the SRT principles you will gain slowly,so you need to be patient.You should at least follow some principles in the SRT like not wearing underwear.Undewear will squash your penis and you don't want that.You want to keep it as extended as possible.So,i think this is a principle you could follow.Or if you cannot give up on underwear,wear loose ones.

Length routine / Morning ( or evening,it's important to keep them separated,doesn't matter if you do length in the morning and girth in the evening or viceversa ) :

Warm up-5min

Bundles-5-10min

Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Warm down:5min

Additional exercises : If you feel like the routine above is not strong enough or you want to add more exercises,try this :

Foot long stretch : Very powerful stretch,imo the strongest manual stretch ever , and it's a very underrate exercise,you use your leg's strength and you generate a lot of power. : 3 sets , 30 sec. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/10117-dld-foot-long-stretch-graphic-version.html

__________ stretch : Careful with it,it's a powerful stretch to release the inner penis :3 sets , 30 sec http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/55350-the-__________-stretch-as-named-by-blue-whale.html

DLD Duel Double Stretch : powerful stretch created by DLD recently :3 sets,30 sec http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/86704-dld-duel-double-stretch-should-have-thought-of-this-years-ago.html

Girth routine / Evening :

Warm up:5 min

Bundles :5-10 min

Jelqing : 500 jelqs

SSJ : 10 min of SSJ

Warm down :5 min

You can play with the SSJ and jelqing,you can add more time to them if you feel like they're not enough or you can take time if you feel like it's too intense for you.Your choise

Additional exercises

Testicle health massage : esticle Health Stretch will help your penis to hang lower in flaccid state. It will also increase blood flow to your testicles and aid in sperm count. This routine should take no longer than 5 minutes but the benefits are many.

With favorite lotion grab your scrotum just above your testicles. Now in a rubbing motion massage each testy for 30 seconds rubbing between your fingers in a gentle but firm movement. Now massage all the fluid around your testicles for 60 seconds. At this point your scrotum should be very relaxed. Finally lightly stretch your scrotum downward while the other hand pulls your penis upward. Do 60 of these. This is a very quick routine but the benefits are great. This will also aid you in any kind of early warning signs of testicular problems.

Kegels : ( kegels shouldn't be " additional " you should do the kegel exercise daily no matter what.PC Muscle Fitness/Kegels
This is an important part of your workout.
This routine can be done anywhere. The benefits of doing these are a huge part of your growth process. A mature, developed PC muscle will be paramount to future gains and penile health.

What is a kegel?
A kegel is the name of a pelvic floor exercise, named after Dr. Kegel who discovered the exercise. These muscles are attached to the pelvic bone and act like a hammock, holding in your pelvic organs. To feel this muscle movement simply stop and start the flow of urine. This isolation of the PC muscle is a kegel.

Why would I want to do kegel exercises?

• Stronger Erections
• Longer Erections due to blood hold capacity
• Larger head size
• Further ejaculatory Distance
• Sexual enjoyment is enhanced for both partners
• It can prevent prolapsed of pelvic organs
• It can help prevent leaking urine when you sneeze or cough

There you go,if you want you can follow this routine,simple and very effective,i don't think you could find a manual routine better than this,it's something like the newbie routine but a bit modified for the best results.Read the SRT even though you cannot follow it,it's important to know that information.Try and stay elongated as much as possible,give up on the tight underwear and just be patient.

Really good stuffs! Should bookmark this. Thanks.

But whats up with the problem that you can't enter this website on your computer anymore? Has been like that for a long time now. Have to check everything on my phone :/

habban;673988 said:

Ye i have just heard that rest days are good for healing. And during healing the gains appear. If i tug on my dick 24/7 my penis will not get enough time to heal what has to be healed to visualize gains. You take rest days on the gym for same reason i guess?

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usually at night when you sleep your body repairs and you get nocturnal erections etc... If you actually need time off you will know.

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just watch your EQ

habban;673897 said:

Thank you all. How many days could you do girth exercises? I found them funny to do, was going for 1 on 1 off. But i feel i want do more somehow.

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Do them as much as your penis can handle. You say you're 10 months in, I'm sure you're ready for 6 days on 1 day off or everyday, just progress there, increase a day every week.